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i welcome the program of the ukrainian voice of america time time i am its host ostap yarysh the united states is in permanent contacts with ukraine regarding needs on the battlefield and soon expect to announce more military aid yes the us administration responded to the voice of america's request to clarify president biden's comment on f-16 fighter jets for kyiv on the eve of our journalist yulia yarmolenko's question whether the us will provide f16 fighter jets to ukraine the president biden answered no, he did not add any other details . on his part, the minister of defense of ukraine, oleksiy reznikov, stated that he believes that no from the united states is a refusal as of today. he added that he hopes that in the end this position will change as was the case with other types of weapons, but former british prime minister boris johnson believes that the western allies need to provide kyiv with all the necessary weapons as soon as possible so that ukraine can win the war already this year. he said this during his visit

to the usa where he visited the ukrainian house in washington and also held breakfast and a press conference with the ambassador of ukraine, oksana markarova, attended the event . in 2023, boris johnson calls on washington. at the same time, i want to convey to washington that there is no reason to delay aid , we must make sure that our ukrainian friends have received everything they need to expel the russians from the entire territory of ukraine as soon as possible so that this happens this year, 2023, it is the best for western ukraine and russia will end this disaster as soon as possible. the method has shown enough, johnson said that every time

the allies delayed the provision of a certain type of weapon due to fears of a scalatzi from russia there was no need to do this in this way, he answered the question about providing ukraine with f-16 fighters, they recently said that there is no need to even think about tanks. received the equipment she needs as soon as possible, this is a humane thing for all of ukraine and the whole world, but the day before president baidel said that the usa will not provide ukraine with f16 fighter jets, voice of america johnson asked replied that he admires what the biden administration is doing, which has provided $23 billion in military aid alone, and hopes that it will continue to build on

these achievements. i believe that the investment that the united states has made in solving this conflict is actually a smart thing in terms of long-term prospects for the zone restraining russian aggression and repelling russian aggression in ukraine , the overall savings in the long term will be huge, he also said that the security of ukraine should be guaranteed as well as member countries of nato, according to him, he changed his opinion about ukraine's membership in nato, and at that time he thought that basically we need to find a way to provide ukraine with defense equipment and training so that they could never be attacked again, but you know. now i think that's enough ambiguity we tried for decades not to have ukraine in nato and this led to

the worst war in europe in 80 years in washington boris johnson will also meet with the republican leader in congress and speeches in the atlantic council tetiana vorozhko oleksiy aspen, and on the eve of his visit to the usa, boris johnson published a column on the pages of your tonpost edition , where he called for an immediate start on this with the involvement of kyiv in nato for the sake of stability and peace , let's talk more about the prospects of ukraine's accession to nato with our european correspondent bohdan tsyupin, who is currently joining on the air from london bohdan , i congratulate you, tell me in more detail what it consists of boris johnson in his column and what arguments he gives for the immediate and immediate acceptance of ukraine into nato e.e. ostapa we have just

have heard boris johnson eh and i think it is worth dwelling on the question of ukraine in nato and what johnson thinks a little more because we have very few leading western leaders who openly or a lot and widely talk about the prospects of ukraine's membership in the alliance and i think that this is indicative because boris johnson himself in this article actually admits both his own mistakes and actually the double and almost insincere position of nato or the leading nato countries regarding ukraine. he admits that over the years nato has on the one hand declared about the so-called open door about ukraine's right to join this organization, which is guaranteed in particular by the charter of the north atlantic alliance, that

is, it is not about someone's desire to allow or not allow countries to join this organization , on the other hand, he also admits that in fact at the same time, the western countries promised russia behind ukraine's back, and he personally promised president putin that ukraine would not join nato in the near future. there is even such a vivid phrase from boris johnson in his own article where he says that he thought that rather hell will freeze over when ukraine joins this organization, and that is why i think we paid so much attention to this article and to these statements by boris johnson, because in fact a western leader, the former prime minister of great britain, recognizes this actual

insincerity or duplicity of the positions of many nato countries regarding ukraine's prospects, bohdan's organization, do the current leaders of other nato member countries share such views, what do we hear from them, maybe the history of ukraine's advancement, the history of ukraine's relations with nato is long-standing and very dramatic, and i i think that er, even the past months are so full of er and bloody and dramatic events, so much so that probably some people need to be reminded that in september, the president of ukraine , volodymyr zelensky, submitted an official application for ukraine's membership in nato, and that we actually have nato giving up on this e- nato secretary general jens stoltenberg was forced to admit that he cannot give consent or cannot give a satisfactory answer to this request of ukraine for this application

because he says that there is no consensus among nato members regarding the involvement of ukraine in of that organization, it is obvious that we are talking about the conditions of war and a serious problem, but there are also facts, the leaders of the leading countries of germany, france, great britain and the united states of america are silent, only nine countries , mainly eastern europe and the baltic countries, in october after the announcement statements of ukraine, the presidents of poland, romania, the baltic countries, slovakia, and others signed an official declaration that they officially support and call for negotiations on

ukraine's membership in nato, but it is officially necessary for t- it is necessary that there should be full, full agreement of all countries of all 30 nato countries to join, and there are still countries or governments or politicians who are still opposed to the involvement of ukraine in nato, and this is what a british political scientist who currently works in tallinn, estonia, spoke to me about institute of foreign policy james sher, who in particular points out that it would be good to hear, for example, from the prime minister of great britain, rishi sunek, about his position on ukraine's membership in nato. this is what he emphasizes in poland and other countries the baltics are able to present powerful arguments. but despite how clear and logical these arguments are, they immediately reject us and you know it , calling us historical eastern europeans . in the end, the only ones who can convince are those who understand this issue and are inside western europe and the usa, and again in britain, which

often leads intellectually forward, now he can present clear arguments , but there are not enough intellectuals, the question is whether prime minister rishi sunak will publicly speak in favor of this, because britain is in a more favorable position in this regard and to her the voice was listened to because in washington bohdan, by the way, you would have asked about this consensus regarding ukraine, but now it looks like it is because of sepi that the membership of sweden, which threatens to block turkey, is a threat. submitted applications for membership in nato, and by the way, it is also worth emphasizing that in the summer of last year, all 30 countries of this organization signed and ratified the protocols on the entry of these countries

into the organization, that is, in fact, delegations finland and sweden already participate in the work of nato, are already involved in the nato operation , although they do not have the right to vote. and most importantly, they are not affected by the fifth article on the mutual collective defense of the members of the alliance and an example of what is already 28 countries ratified very quickly, they ratified again starting from last summer, they ratified these protocols, but there remains turkey, which speaks about its claims, and hungary, which obviously also has its own personal private reasons, which mr. orba does not even talk about, and this shows how

consensus in nato is not an easy matter bohdan. thank you for your information. i will remind you that bohdan tsyupe was in contact with us from london. together with millions of ukrainians , foreign diplomats learned to live and work during the war . germany's rainbow in ukraine. in 2014, in an interview with the voice of america, she said that she understands the ukrainians well and fully feels with them the urgently needed weapons continue hanna solid bread do you already have information when the german tanks will be in in ukraine, it seems to me that the city of voronyi said that we will be there by april 1 and i want to emphasize that even now i think that your soldiers are on the road and are learning how to use these tanks. we forget that training on this type of weapons is very

important well, in germany already very, very many of your soldiers have passed no, this is our training, it is more than 2,000 e-e soldiers and last year there were also a lot but this seems very important to me we want to give them every opportunity to survive and use well, use correctly well, with this weapon when chancellor shultz spoke before the deputies and explained that this decision was felt to be exactly that. iryna solomko spoke with the head of the commission and the former

president of the international tribunal of gyaranda about the work of experts and the recommendations they are preparing to make public in their report already in march eric meat, we can now review the first commission to investigate violations in ukraine has been working for 10 months, what was done during this time, and the koshin commission was created in march, but it took several months to settle all organizational issues. in september, we informed the un council about the situation in ukraine on human rights and then in october we presented our interim report to the general assembly and in these two materials we came to the conclusion that war crimes and violations of human rights and international humanitarian law were committed in ukraine. now we we are working on the final report. within the framework of this mandate, which will be submitted to the human rights council in the march match, you mentioned that you are preparing the final report, but the war is still going on, probably your work should continue like this, and if it is early for human rights to decide to extend the mandate of the commission, there will be other reports, but this

decision for the human rights council if we talk about numbers, how many cases have you already documented, because this is the main task of your commission, our task is to decide whether there were violations of international human rights law and have war crimes taken place our main methodology is to focus on possible violations of these norms so we have to focus on events and then try to see if these events are systemic or if they are more general features of this conflict and in order to do this we have already five times visited ukraine as of october we visited 27 cities and interviewed 191 witnesses as of the end of january we had 10 missions and significantly increased the number of interviews you have extensive experience working in conflicts what you saw in ukraine how different is it from other countries, it is clear that what is happening in ukraine causes extreme sadness, but when

you ask me to compare human suffering, for example, with rwanda, where i worked for about 10 years, it is very difficult to do. human suffering is difficult to compare and evaluate, but a commission or a judge must do everything it is possible to establish the facts, try to focus on the evidence and come to the right conclusion, regardless of what these human sufferings are, not sufferings , but crimes and criminals who accelerated or their number, which is a record in ukraine, there is a large number of victims in ukraine, but there were also a large number of victims in other conflicts in rwanda, 800,000 people were killed, i would like to emphasize that all these situations are regrettable, but the commission simply focuses, not being influenced by the situation , on the established facts and obtaining yes , if they have koklushkin, perhaps part of your mission is work with victims, ukrainians who

witnessed crimes, we do not understand our responsibility, and i am ready to talk about the conscience and seek justice is great a number of witnesses were ready and willing to help the commission and we appreciate it very much and of course we rely first of all on direct evidence, that is, partly these are statements of witnesses and partly visits to crime scenes, then this is considered in the context of other types of evidence, so the testimony of the witness must be recorded and carefully investigated, but also check in view of other evidence, some situations are somewhat more complicated, for example, it may well be that the witness saw attacks on his settlement that had devastating consequences for people and objects, but an additional element was the question is whether it is in any way related to the fact that there were military facilities nearby and this also needs to be studied before drawing conclusions another such example sexual crimes their victims always find it very difficult

to talk about their experiences and this creates problems not always easy to document such crimes, because often the victim does not survive, and the attention during growth well will be focused on the fact of death and not on other elements of military objects, and he uses everything as he won and gives for his attacks, claiming that ukrainian the military are in schools and hospitals, you have recorded such facts we have seen examples from both sides when there were cases of close proximity of civilian and military targets, this happens in all conflicts there is nothing unusual here, but we always emphasize that the civilian population should not be a target, is this the main thing or not do you give any recommendations to the ukrainian government or the armed forces on how to prevent such situations we have not yet given any recommendations, they will be

in the march report, it is too early to say about what they will be, but in general, this is one of the tasks of this commission, and to work on recommendations to ensure that the persons who committed crimes are punished as much as possible. the task of the commission is to document war crimes. do you record them on the part of the ukrainian military ? from what we have seen so far in the four regions visited during our visits: kyiv, kharkiv , sumy, and chernihiv, but we also found several cases from the ukrainian side and in our report, we mentioned two incidents when ukrainian forces treated russian prisoners of war harshly and injured russian prisoners of war. for anyone other than the un and the institute, information is important . one of the elements of our mandate is that we must preserve and provide evidence under guarantees to the institutions that need it, as well as for the purpose of trial, because the ultimate goal of the commission's work is that

the information collected by it be used to bring those guilty of crimes to justice. international criminal the court is one of the courts that can benefit from our work that can ask us to share the information that we have documented the work of the ukrainian law enforcement system ukrainian law enforcement officers have doubts that it will cope with how many cases have been filed since the beginning of the full-scale invasion what is your view on this i not going to judge the functioning of any legal system, but part of our mandate is to develop guidelines that can assist in prosecutions and that raises two questions , in part

, whether national efforts should be improved and whether there is a need to strengthen international mechanisms. and this is what we will talk about in the march report . your experience, what should be the solution for ukraine, because there is still no agreement on what it should be. this is the format of the question that we were asked to answer in our march report, i don't want to talk about what will be in the report, but in principle, based on the discussion you just mentioned, it can be said that there is a need to have a tribunal, but there is a question whether it will have a more general competence or will be focused only on the crime of aggression, as some insist, and the answer the commission is studying these questions. and what is your personal opinion as a person who headed such an institution ? it was obviously the right decision of the international community after the news and yugoslavia to create two tribunals there. however, the situation has changed now, now there is an international

a criminal court that did not exist at that time, so the question is what is the best way in this situation when you also have the national system. so the situation is somewhat different and we have to analyze it. thank you for the conversation. this was an interview with the head of the un commission of inquiry. war crimes in ukraine, and now we can return to the interview with the german ambassador to kyiv janka folguzen, what is germany's position on this matter in your opinion. you are reading what our office said. i cannot really add it just seems to me so personally that leopards are a german product. that is, it was more directly aimed at us 16

and others. partners of ukraine so that we are united not so that we are together decided in no way the best way to help ukraine let me ask you something about the chancellor against the background of the enormous gratitude that is now being heard from ukrainians for this decision, i have as many reservations, even criticism, even from of some german experts about certain procrastination and indecisiveness. how can you comment on such reproaches in his addresses. it was a very lively excursion and it continues . i think that it continues. well, while it continues, there are always people who have other opinions. no, but hmm, very often unclear. to be honest, what strikes me is that not only the majority, but also the quality is not for the experts on behalf of ukraine, and they

argue every time in favor of ukraine german media german experts no, this is really, if you are watching, watching the comment, and i am asking the management of the website, do you know there is such support for ukraine? no, i am really impressed . do you completely reject the arguments for procrastination? i live here, as we said at the beginning of our conversation, and i understand very well why ukrainians want these weapons faster . well, more simply, i feel very well here, well , this sense of urgency and sensitivity, no, and i i'm trying to convey this to berlin, as i can't do it to everyone. my fellow diplomats will do it with their capitals. it's just dry. it's completely

different to say something else. well, it's just a feeling when we are here in the center of the country, in the center of the country , the capital. well, just through our and sometimes personal conversations, we can convey no in our capital, no, how important it is that it be faster and just bigger. thank you for your time. goodbye . not all is well. ukraine has risen by several positions in the rating of the perception of corruption from the international organization transparency international, taking 116th place and 180 countries, ukraine improved its indicator compared to last year by one point, as the head of the ukrainian department of transparency international said in an interview with the voice of america, despite the russian invasion , ukraine showed progress in the fight with corruption, which continues even in

the most difficult period, the event of anti-corruption positive yes rather last year there were not so many, but they were still yes ukraine finally adopted an anti-corruption strategy, which could not be adopted for two years, finally appointed the head of sap, who could not be appointed for 2.5 years, and thirdly, after the head of sap was already appointed , the flow of cases that are transferred by the anti-corruption prosecutor's office to the the higher anti-corruption court and the anti-corruption court in general completed and started a lot of cases, there is another interesting nuance when we explain what it means that it started, well , it continued to work only during the first three months of the full-scale invasion above the anti-corruption court should, with five verdicts a-a, based on the results of which the punishment was imposed in the form of imprisonment, that is , imagine that russian troops are

literally standing there a few kilometers from kyiv, and the higher corruption court continued to do its job. i think that these nuances just affected this plus one, here it is also important to say that the information for the index is taken for the last two years, that is, not only the events of 21 22, but the events of 21 , but we look at it positively because that usually in countries where there is a war, the situation with corruption worsens in ukraine , it is not only worsening, it has not worsened, it has even improved a little, i want it within the limits of the plan here. there are four recommendations for this year, in particular, to return electronic declaration without problems, to hold competitions for heads of anti-corruption bodies so that this does not continue for two and a half years again

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