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[000:00:00;00] expel russians from the entire territory of ukraine as soon as possible so that this happens already this year, 2023, this is the best for ukraine and russia. johnson understands what he will be talking about. with the republicans and this person who was recently in the bbc documentary putin against the measures, which is literally a few days old back then, he appeared on the screens and said that before the big offensive of russia against ukraine , putin threatened him and said, boris, i don't want to hurt you, but with a missile, it will only take a minute, then he made a similar statement british defense minister ben wallace spoke about the fact that the russians were leading the british there. he talked about how
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on february 11, at a meeting with shoigu in moscow , he received false assurances from him that russia was not going to attack ukraine, so the british are now playing the role of executioners ukraine has such international lawyers, what does this mean, that is, the british, after all, volodymyr , they have a powerful influence on international politics, although it is customary to say that the united states of america is more powerful, although the british, in this situation, play a role a very significant role. am i so wrong? of course, great britain traditionally and historically has always played such a leading role . well, not only in europe, in this world, but i want to recall now that sam johnson was telling the cards at the meeting. i met him when
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he worked in new york. then he was the minister of foreign affairs of great britain even before he became the prime minister of those countries , so there was his public lecture, then in such a narrower circle we talked because one of the participants in this conversation he then said such a thing me a little i was impressed at first, and then i saw several years later how it was all implemented, he then came up with an idea about that and then the brexit process just started and everyone, of course , criticized the europeans, well, the same johnson and the british government in general. what are you doing to get out of lipinsky ? it is wrong for the union, it is bad, and johnson was sculpting. yes, you know. no, he told me more , i think, because it was already after the 14th year , that is, the war was already going on. only it was not yet such a large-scale goal as he said now such a thing that you know, you will see that after great britain
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will no longer be so connected to this brussels bureaucracy, and he added that i really don't like it, we will have more freedom of hands we will have more opportunities well, we will not act more independently in any arena, including your conflict with the russian federation. you will see how much easier it will be for us to help you. this is exactly what happened after that. well, even before he made me a minister and then with the most clearly manifested itself precisely during his premiership and he continues this line even now. by the way, he is no longer an official , but he continues to work for the benefit of ukraine and the meetings he will hold. do you hold meetings in washington, they testify about this that it is considering very er, well, i don't want to er, use
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the word fraternal, but the relations between the united kingdom and the united states of america have always been so very very special, i would say very close despite the fact that they are not that simple the past was i actually from whom did the united states become independent at one time but nevertheless, you know, the english in the americans listen to them. well, they listen to them as if they were people close to them, and that's why boris johnson is doing this by convincing those republicans who, for example, are there they doubt that it is necessary to increase the country's aid and many other things about which we may not even know, but i am sure that this is a real introduction to us. how will johnson do, he is doing his job by five pluses and we should be very grateful to him those
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sometimes, volodymyr, russia does not allow the mission to the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine , this was reported by the system coordinator, denise brown . well, all is not lost yet. on july 29, the russian federation fired artillery at this prison, where , among other things, azov fighters were held, captured azov fighters who surrendered, let's go let's hear what dennis brown is saying, you know we wanted to send a mission to the deer park, but we could not get permission and security guarantees from russia to go there, but this does not mean that all is lost, remember the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, our mega specialists are located there, and they
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leave there for three weeks, so it is also possible, mr. volodymyr, you and i have repeatedly talked about the role of the un and how the organization of the united nations is currently acting or inaction in this russian-ukrainian war we are about the league of nations was mentioned in this story as the league of nations and was changed to the united nations. it was not for nothing that i mentioned the planned meeting of joseph biden with volodymyr zelenskyi in poland because, among other things, he has to announce theses about the creation of the international e-e conferences are dedicated to what is happening in ukraine , well, obviously, regarding the restoration of the ukrainian state , according to you, isn’t it time to talk about the renewal of the un or at least raise the question of the creation of perhaps another international
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organization that would have greater powers or at least it would be more effective than the united nations . it seems to me that this time came 25-30 years ago and until now we are observing the helplessness of the organization at least in the political plane. if we talk about the un in ukraine to date, well, if the humanitarian sphere, this function is not even more or less fulfilled, we know about the participation and role of the un or individual un officials and the exchange of prisoners of war, the same old story well-known, we know about humanitarian the aid to the country that is provided is really a fact, we know about the same grain agreement. well, he is a mediator there. i think that it
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was all done without him, but thank god that there is such an organization that wants to at least help us in this, but i did not become to exaggerate divisions, well, in general, what is happening, at least in the political sphere, because it is not even a matter of ukraine only, eh. look at the other conflicts that take place all over the world, and we very rarely, unfortunately, see any concrete positive results, eh. even from participation of the peacekeeping forces of the un, well, at the very best, and it is possible to freeze or unfreeze it in a certain way, or somehow stop the conflict, but one way or another, everything depends on the parties who are leading this conflict, well, in our situation, i don't want to call ukraine a party ukraine - this is very creative, but in general i will go in such a theoretical way, that is, when the un comes in the form of media-creating forces, it is usually
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the end of the conflict and a certain transition period during which it is necessary to control something there, to prepare some elections and such other and if we talk about the update, well, again, i have said it many times, the opinion may not be popular, even among many of my colleagues, but i repeat once again that i absolutely do not believe that it is possible to really update it in its place, it is only possible to create some other organization, as happened with the left nation. by the way, one way or another, we will come to the moment when this war ends, it will end with the defeat of the russian federation and these countries that will win. poland understood ukraine, the baltic countries, many other countries, and they need a ukrainian of this coalition, they should become the initiator of the creation , if not of a new organization, then of a new system
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of collective security, at least in europe, but i don’t want to be branded on the whole world eh. it is probably more difficult, but at least in europe something needs to be done. look at the same organization for security cooperation in europe or the axis that does nothing at all . so, when was the last time you heard anything about the role or any actions of the osce in ukraine in general nothing is happening, they are closed, i don’t understand why. in general, they still exist there in vienna in the hopper palace, what else can they do now, even now, even those who are not declared to be there? well, if we talk about new york , uh, well, you can criticize the general system of jerus as much as you like is it a secret of the un and it is fair and they should be criticized, they only implement those decisions that are taken at
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the level of the actual organization, that is, all 193 countries are members if there are no such decisions. russia with its aggression in ukraine, which everyone calls on to stop these things, but the decisions of the gaming assembly are not binding, and of course this declaration does not pay any attention to them. by the way, it does not pay any attention to the decisions of the security council, so that we do not talk there and we thought that it is not even necessary to overestimate the role of the security council because there are many decisions, even security in the resolution , because, let's say, the arab-israeli conflict or cyprus, and none of them have ever been fully implemented, that's why all these conflicts conflicts all these problems continue to exist for 7/10 years, so something needs to be done and i believe that after the end of this war of attacks or otherwise well, if
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it cannot be called the third world war, then at least it is a global war, this is already clear to everyone even without direct participation in it of other countries or, well, except for russia and ukraine, but one way or another, after the end of this war, we will have to think about what to do with this russian federation, with these nuclear weapons that continue to be in the hands of this country and many, many other things and reparations responsibility for the military or military crimes and many other issues. and it seems to me that within the framework of the existing system of collective security, it is more or less possible to achieve something like this, well, an option that would suit us completely is very difficult, if not completely impossible, so it is necessary to develop some other new solutions, new formats, etc.
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i very much hope that the conference, in what format, did not take place around february 24. in this situation, the un will be used as a platform, that is, not with its participation, but simply at the site of meetings of nations. performances are expected president of ukraine zelenskyi and the presentation of that peace plan or proposals, which he has already partially voiced. i think that other things will be said publicly , but then we will see what the reaction of the world community will be and whether the world community will be able to 15 to reach these decisions or approve them or solve all these problems that i have already said well, we must remind our viewers that in part zelensky's peace plan was voiced at the meeting
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of the great 19, he participated online in this meeting and then the peace proposals were sounded volodymyr zelenskyi, but mr. volodymyr, i would like to return to the nuclear weapons of the russian federation, because this issue is quite urgent. washington says that russia is threatening to terminate the nuclear agreement with the united states of america. minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation serhiy ryabkov has already said that a scenario is possible when this treaty, in accordance with which both parties controlled each other's nuclear capabilities, may be terminated that is, they are talking about the fact that this treaty, which is called sno-3 , can be signed in 2011, it can be in the 10th year
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, forgive me, and it can be terminated. and this means that no one will have russian nuclear weapons after the 26th year will be able to control this is a typical blackmail of moscow, or can they still dare to do that, well, considering the help provided by the united states of america to ukraine , i am sure that this is blackmail, we have heard similar statements from the same padalkov many times , because you know, nuclear weapons, well, they are probably the only such a club that remained in his pocket in the russian leadership, which can scare the whole world or some part of this world, but we know about it, well, at least we guess about it, no one openly talks about it, but you and i. what happened at one time, when those threats to use nuclear weapons against ukraine or in ukraine were heard quite often, the end of summer there, the beginning of autumn last
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year after that, putin i think was personally warned about the consequences that await him personally eh it will simply be physical destruction not to mention about eh, well, all these there russian military bases in the command center are different, and it was said that nothing will be done. without the use of weapons in response, i think it will be carried out, of course, with economic weapons . it is said and that is why we have recently stopped hearing these threats against ukraine. well, as for the threats against the americans, that we will stop any cooperation there after the 26th year
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, there is, among other things, a whole series of agreements well, who controls the arsenals of both sides, the americans and the russians ? well, today it looks like pure blackmail . heard about the second army in the river of the world about there some hypersonic monsters and missiles that fly all over the world but we actually saw a little different eh i think that western intelligence knows much more than we do and therefore everything will be done to stop such audacious intentions, if they are on the part of the russian federation, are still at the stage when they do not threaten anyone and you know the words. i think that it is necessary to look at what to listen to, not the words, look at the actions and consequences
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. by the way, i am not the only one here , not a weapon. there are many other issues, so i think that we should believe less in everything because the truth is being told . another country that can and does affect the course of the russian-ukrainian war is china , the secretary general of nato and the institute of tenberg and prime minister of japan fomion tishida stressed during the meeting uh with concern the growing military cooperation of russia with china and hmm if president putin wins in ukraine, it will send a signal that authoritarian regimes can achieve their goals with the help of brute force , this is dangerous said from toltenberg well, the secretary general of nato says that what is happening in europe may happen in east asia, that is , russia's invasion of ukraine caused japan to fear that china may make a similar request regarding
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taiwan and while he considers such a step to have a direct impact on its security. how do you, vladimir, characterize the position of china and leave during the current war? is china simply waiting for one of the parties to gain some advantage ? its policy and its attitude to this war. i think that china takes such a traditional , very cautious position, which will evolve responsibly, they said, depending on what the results of this war will be, but we have to assume that china is theirs -is not interested, for example, in the deterioration of its relations with those capital states of america, china is very much economically dependent , er, less on the countries of western europe than on the eu, but
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also very much and much more on the united states. how will the number of students in the united states depend on that, egypt from china and in this way, if we put the relationship between china and the western world on the one hand and the russian federation on the other side , it will become clear to everyone that it is more important for china and that is why it seems to me that it will continue in this way to balance china, a great power that can afford it, china is in no hurry, but there is one more thing, read, it is suffering from the war. well, no less than even those western countries that imposed sanctions on russia and from this receive losses from trade from
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a decrease in the volume of the oil bank. well, it’s not barvy, it’s a price ceiling, it’s the same with the supply of gas, there are some metals to coal, and so on in china, well, this is a slightly outdated figure. at the end of summer but in these approximating that as an indirect consequence of the war, well, as a result of changes in prices there, there were some gaps in some trade chains , china lost more than 100 billion dollars. well , for china, of course, this is not some crazy number, but it is still a very large amount of money , and that is why china i am absolutely not interested in the fact that this war is prolonged indefinitely, and in this way, i think that the position will vaccinate not only depending on the situation at the front, but also on how well
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, how quickly the moment will come when china will already begin to feel directly the results of this bible, and china, too, well, in addition to general trade and the western world , it is very dependent, for example, on the supply of food, and therefore, taking into account that ukraine is one of the world's largest exporters , it remains so even during the war the same grain and many, many other things, china is absolutely interested in the fact that these non-these things are pledged, so that it receives less from ukraine directly in such goods, er, and in general, it is able to buy less food because its prices are constantly rising. so i think this will also affect the position of china, and for us the main thing is that we can and have the right to be dissatisfied with the lack of direct support from china
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, but the fact that china is constantly well, like the bible before going to bed he repeats that he undeniably stands in the position of unconditionally supporting the integrity and independence of the ukrainian state. this is important because china never gives up. well, he does not mince words if he says or repeats it. regularly, this means that this is the reinforced concrete position of the chinese state, so uh, i think that uh, well, at least this position should suit us at the current stage. the same one. well, how did you call it china’s hidden support for the regime of sanctions
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against russia, that is, some things, that is, china, for example , refused to buy the rest of some russian austria there, this is also participation in sanctions in the regime of the male or laws of some state banks e.e. and companies e.e. to carry out financial operations e.e. hai or with russian banks or supply, for example, the same electronic chips, although one way or another they end up in russia, but these are indirect supplies , this is not direct trade, so china does its own thing quiet, calm, but doing. by the way, israel is also. by the way, about one more country, i wanted to ask you, mr. volodymyr, about turkey at the end of our program, because today erdoğan announced that turkey
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will never agree to accession sweden to nato, ankara will not approve this country's application to join the alliance , he said at the congress of his party, we know that the presidential election will soon be thrown, it is clear that he must show firmness, in particular, regarding what is happening in sweden and those people who fled from turkey because to sweden and the fact that they burned the koran there, in your opinion, how far can erdogan’s position be? it can be so unchanged because every time we watch how turkey opposes sweden’s entry into nato, every time we hold similar or i like countries will make decisions in the future about our joining nato, you know. eastern diplomacy - this is a very delicate matter. i would say so, first of all, it will never go
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, secondly, it is such a position. presidential elections it seems that it will be right this year before this he needs such a consolidation inside the country for his own pocket and that's why he will continue to make such, well, different statements and, as they say , have a bar well, after the elections, everything can change, i think that changes because strictly speaking, we say this is the position of turkey within nato and there is a principle of consensus - it is within nato and if it is perfectly against the people, that is, those who are against it will not go automatically. but after the elections , the negotiation process will not continue until the elections that's why it should ultimately lead to finding some solutions. unfortunately, in this example
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, the case in turkey and the burning of the koran. well , behind which. by the way, in which you can also understand , there is a certain russian sleeve er. this does not surprise anyone at all. however, that is not the case less this case, he threw up arguments, as they say, and in this way, sweden suffered from this such an italian manifestation, but one way or another, it was not all , there would have been some other reasons found , he would stick to the bar. thank you, mr. volodymyr, everything is changing. thank you, sir. volodymyr, we must put an end to our program . it was volodymyr yevchenko, a diplomat, a person with whom we discussed all the diplomatic nuances surrounding the russian-ukrainian war, friends, let's put an end to our conversation
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. we will meet with you tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. i wish everyone well health, goodbye, art in a country of war, a series of documentary films, each of which will tell about one of the ukrainian artists, artists who did not leave abroad and continue their creative path in ukraine . it seems that history has just entered into some such a moment where everything just gathered in her as linearly, that's what happened there that we remember then, it was a kind of drag, but now it's like it's all in one moment and we see that well, everything repeats itself, but how the place and meaning of the artist and his work change in what country is fighting, see in the new tv series from the docnotfilm studio and babylon 13 association art in the country of war from january 16, weekdays from monday to friday at 11:10 on espresso watch this week in the program collaborators
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to the 406th separate artillery brigade named after general khorunzhy oleksiy almazov join the gathering let's bring victory together glory to ukraine it's almost 2 p.m. in ukraine news time on the espresso tv channel in the studio iryna koval welcomes all viewers and talks about the most important events right now in ukraine, the day of the search , the security service visited the officials of the ministry of defense, the former director of the state procurement department, bohdan khmelnytskyi, and the deputy minister of defense v yacheslava shapovalova are both involved in the scandal with the purchase of food for the military, in addition, according to the investigation
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