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[000:00:00;00] yes, she said that it is necessary to sit down at the negotiating table with kyiv and moscow, if washington wanted to, says valentina matvienko , it would put the kyiv regime in prison, which is interesting , so far they say that the kyiv regime is as much as possible at the negotiating table, because russia is ready to the negotiations, but without any conditions to put forward any conditional ones, they want to say yes well, it won't happen like that, it won't happen like that anymore, it won't happen like that anymore if valka rose up and didn't rehearse about it thank you for being with us this evening starts now for your attention bbc not from ukraine together good evening we are with
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olga palamaryuk from ukraine works in the studio and today in the program the newly elected president of the czech republic, petro paval, told the bbc that ukraine should be allowed to join nato as soon as the war ends. what is known about the cases concerning them? the spring landings have been announced , and the police are conducting searches of the organizers of the capital's parties, footage of which caused a stir in social networks on video you can see how boys offend and humiliate girls in ukraine, the security service came to the oligarch ihor kolomoiskyi about this, bbc news ukraine was informed by law enforcement sources
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, later this information was made public by the head of the servant of the people party faction in the parliament , david and arkhamia, the bbc also received a photo of kolomoiskyi at the place of the investigation later, the sbu published a press release about the searches with photos that most likely show the search of kolomoiskyi, but according to the investigators, the faces are blurred in the photo the investigation into kolomiysky concerns fraud in the companies ukrtatnafta and ukrnafta, it is about the embezzlement of oil products worth 40 billion hryvnias and tax evasion, also the ukrainian mass media reported on the searches of the mp from the national people's republic of ukraine and businessman developer vadym stolar and the former head of the ministry of internal affairs arsenal avakov this information later rohamia also confirmed that, according to his information, searches took place in the tax office, the entire management staff of the customs office was dismissed and a high-ranking official was handed over to the the ministry of defense, the country will change during the war, if someone is not ready
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for changes, the state itself will come and help them change, rahamia wrote in a telegram , withdrawing my colleague zhanna bezpyachok from the air , zhanno. congratulations, we hope to receive more details from you in one day, the security service conducted more searches than in previous months, so it is ukrnafta's turn that this case has been investigated for more than one year, and what has changed now, what is known, and does it have anything to do with the war? greetings olya, it is really a case of ukrnafta and ukrtet nafti, this is such a saga of the anti-corruption fight in ukraine, this case has been going on for some time, the first one is about the suspicions of eight people in this case. we heard back in september of last year that the first searches took place. but why is it important to realize that this case
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is worth considering as of now in the context of the war, because ukraine as a state nationalized these enterprises, and even earlier in april and june of 2022, there were missile and aerial attacks on the kremenchug oil refinery owned by ukrtatnafta, respectively , actually for mr. igor kolomoisky for gennadiya bogolyubova this story ended even earlier, that is, the story of this one controlling these enterprises to receive income and profits and to carry out alleged frauds that the ukrainian investigation accuses them of today, and it is about a total of 10 different episodes of transactions related to ukrnafta and ukrtatnafta, which previously belonged to 40 % to ihor kolomoisky and his partners 60%
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of the state why did i start with the fact that this is such a peculiar saga of the anti-corruption policy of ukraine and because many expert politicians of ihor kolomoisky's opponents were absolutely are convinced that this is a classic case when an oligarch used the resources of a state-owned company for his own enrichment, it is enough to say that the aviators with the igor kolomoisky structure concluded contracts with ukrnafta on the sale of oil at low prices and thereby enriched themselves, but this is only one from the episodes of this big case so and the following janno searches into tax searches at vadym stoler 's why exactly these spheres and these people ended up in the field of view of the law enforcement officers and right now and so eh
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right now, because it is worth reminding that the anti-corruption fight and the implementation in practice of the anti-oligarchic law are two things and the construction industry in ukraine, which has the reputation of being one of the most corrupt countries and just before the ukraine eu summit what should happen in two days, we see such an intensification of the activities of law enforcement agencies and a demonstration of ukraine's readiness to fight corruption . thank you zhanna. bbc correspondent zhana bezpyachuk was with us on the call from kyiv . thank you. well, let's touch on the political aspects a little. political scientist volodymyr fesenko is now joining the broadcast. i welcome you to the broadcast. my colleague just spoke about the searches by the law enforcement officers. they call them only the beginning
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, what is meant by the beginning of what? well , in fact, i did not say that this is the beginning of the activation of anti-corruption bodies , and all of them are new. of anti-corruption bodies that were created even after the revolution of dignity took place at the end of last year, and the new leadership of the anti-corruption prosecutor's office will acquire a new leadership and the national agency for the prevention of corruption in demonstrated increased activity in their spheres. and now there are just very high-profile events. well, the high-profile figures, i will say, in terms of the fight against corruption, it is not the search of kolomoiskyi or the joiner
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at the joiner. former and current high-ranking officials in the fields of energy, forestry, and so on, this is important because this is a case that concerns them , and it is definitely a high-profile search in the kyiv tax office. more problems with corruption, so we really see the intensification and demonstration of the intensification of the fight against corruption. this is definitely related to the armed eu . that he communicates with his partners, he tells us that we are fighting enemies, and there are so many questions about corruption, so i think that there was a great political impulse on the part of the president of ukraine himself in order for
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law enforcement agencies to become more active. so that society, our partners, see that the fight against corruption has not stopped, but that it has become more active . well , is there political will to bring all these cases to court, as you think? corruption in ukraine is so great that you cannot solve a case with one-point searches or criminal cases . by the way, i will give a specific example here. there is also a problem in the judicial system. certain to the judicial system. and although normal work is being restored, in particular the higher council of justice of the corruption court, but we have cases, the first high-profile cases that were opened on the nabu on the streets of martynenko, they have been going on for 6 years, if not more, in the courts for 3-4 years only in the court on kolomoisky, for example the history of ukrnafta. and this is a state company
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. there is no nationalization. it is about returning control over a state company where the state is the main thing. kolomoisky controlled during yushchenko's time under various presidents of ukraine therefore, systematic work is needed here, and it is very good that we are now seeing the intensification of this work, but i think that we will have to do it for a long time. points and when the rich businessmen of ukraine had enormous economic and political power in ukraine for decades. yes, after the russian invasion, they lost billions. what happened to the oligarchs in ukraine because of the war? well, they became impoverished. but not only the war. there was a lot of criticism of the anti-oligarchic law
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, but it had its consequences , akhmetov got rid of his media assets, all the oligarchs reduced their political influence, somewhere objectively, somewhere subjectively, but i think this law, with all its ambiguities of populism, it is found a role, played a role in any case, he became an impetus for the oligarchs in mary to curb their appetites and, er, to withdraw a little from political emotional influences, but what is the main problem, and for today and in the future , we have had symbiosis for 20 years this is not just the influence of the oligarchs, this is actually a combination of the symbiosis of big politics and the upper echelons of the wine class, and it is not so easy to break it off, but systemic actions will be needed here, and in principle, well, they are starting, but we still have a very large amount of work to do, and that's exactly it.
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european integration i think the activation of the anti-corruption fight, as well as domestic political circumstances, will help. thank you, political scientist volodymyr fesenko was in touch with us . thank you. what security forces conducted today were sent to fight against the internal enemy, they promised to continue it, they commented on the searches also in the prosecutor general's office, corruption during the war is looting and no positions will allow you to avoid responsibility. this is what prosecutor general andriy kostin wrote on his facebook. weapons for ukraine, in particular, we are talking about the famous unique iron dome air defense system prime minister netanyahu in stated that his government does not reject the possibility of military aid to ukraine, earlier israel insisted that it intends to limit
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itself to humanitarian aid, which the country has been providing since the first days of the war, according to non-tenyagu in jerusalem, they are ready to consider even the supply of the newest ppu system iron dome , he did not make any specific promises, but also stated that he is ready to act as a mediator in the conflict if the warring parties agree to it ukraine is preparing for an escalation from russia in the coming weeks , secretary of the national security and defense council oleksiy said this danilov in an interview with sky news, according to him, russia is doing everything possible to carry out training and exercises, so the ukrainian authorities do not rule out any scenario of the development of events in the next two or three weeks. the secretary of the national security and defense council did not rule out that vladimir putin will try to launch another attack from the north to the south and east as it happened on february 24 last year. perhaps even timing it to the anniversary of the invasion , danilo also assumes that approximately
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half of the mobilized russian soldiers will take part in the new large-scale offensive of the russian federation. it is approximately 320,000 and some of them have already been transferred to ukraine, and military expert petruchernyk is in touch with us, we will talk about everything in more detail, peter, i congratulate you, earlier bloomberg, citing sources close to the kremlin, wrote that a new russian offensive could begin in february march. how do you assess such forecasts? does the russian army have enough resources for this? and today, as far as human potential is concerned , unfortunately enough is true. they will not be able to provide these strike groups with full-fledged armored fists and the most important thing is air cover, especially if they boil down to madness from the north, because any aircraft that enters from the night of purchase will definitely be shot down. at the same time, we have good and necessary, they understand that they are not in a strategic trap and they
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need to be cemented at any cost. some line of demarcation, and through the mouths of president lukashenko of belarus and the mouths of hungarian prime minister orbán, they give signals that they are ready to sit down at the negotiating table with the ukrainians, but in my opinion, now any conversation about any truce with the enemy is inappropriate, can the enemy happen before this act of suicide in the north, of course it can, because i said the great roman thinker that the closer the collapse of the empire is, the crazier they are, and once again emphasize the second - they really have enough human potential well, if to of weapons, because western analysts wrote that the ukrainian and russian armies are currently experiencing a so-called shell famine. is that true? and that the russian federation is on the path of shell famine is true, if in the summer , let’s say, they put out large fire
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artillery shafts up to 60,000 shells per month in some places up to 80,000, now those indicators reach within the limits of our 20,000 . let me remind you that at the beginning of this war, the russian federation had a stockpile of all calibers of shells ranging from 15 to 20 million, most of it was either used or destroyed they can produce within 125,000 per month, they can no longer according to the summer indicators, this is our total two-tenner norm, but despite this, the factories are working and at least in the amount of 15,000 artillery pieces per day, they can still withstand, we hope in part that as for ukrainian artillery support, the latest news published by the us army about the launch of the great conveyor and its really serious production indicators, as well as the deconservation of american stocks in israel and south korea will significantly improve this process, plus i will remind you that
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the last nato summit in bucharest is nothing but the restart of the great european military container - i apologize to conner, i have no doubt that this work will increase and ukraine will have a sufficient amount of its own ammunition, plus there is good news that and the shell factories actually started working. well, until this happened, kyiv is preparing for a possible escalation on the part of russia, we are always ready. we have no other choice. all the maximum efforts that ukraine can make in the fight for the two are not the enemy, and evidence of this is that on the bakhmut direction which is actually very strategic for the ukrainian enemy, shows miracles of tactical skill and courage, i would like to emphasize that this battle has already lasted much longer than the prolonged battle of stalingrad, and the advance of the enemy
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from 11 to 20-8 km in this section for more than six months, well, incredible modest indicators for the second army of the world in quotation marks, of course. well, i also want to talk about another important topic. what do you think is being discussed for what day in a row is aviation? this is president biden’s no to the question of the supply of f16 fighter jets , is it categorically in your opinion, or can ukraine still has to count on military aviation from the western allies, i am more than sure that it will come sooner or later, and this no, well, it was rather a psychological moment, and there is also such an interesting aspect that the president there, bapaiden was caught off guard somewhere and he did not speak for a long time on this topic. let's rewind a little in history and there was a moment when they said no about the tanks and there was a moment when they also said
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no about the minsk 104 patriot systems, but due to the fact of our movement they the political and strategic will to transfer aviation is clear, but there are countless external factors that will influence this process and we will have to wait for some time. i am 100% sure that the 100 million us dollars allocated by congress last year in june for the preparation of the ukrainian pilots in in absolute order, the target in the american budget system cannot be any other way, well, you talked about tanks, so how quickly will we be able to see leopard abrams challenger equipment at the front , now there is an understanding of this, if you can briefly , in my opinion, it will be about several weeks about the mastery of this equipment and maybe another week or two about its arrival , we hope that march, april, at the most , the end of spring, they will work, in fact , the equipment is unique, the best in its class, and
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in terms of the number, not only of tanks, but of other armor machines without contenders phenomena in general in the history of weaponry from the chess pieces of the second world war are beautiful petro cherny on the phone thank you for the conversation the newly elected president of the czech republic petropavl told the bbc that ukraine should be allowed to join nato as soon as the war ends pavol retired nato general said that ukraine will morally and practically ready to join the alliance after the end of the conflict, in his first interview with the international media after his election , general pavel defended the military support of kyiv and stated that there will be practically no restrictions on what the allies should and should provide to ukraine. subsequently, in one of the newly elected president's speeches, the president stated that for him, sending western fighter jets such as the f-16 is not a taboo, but he is not sure that they can be provided in terms acceptable to kyiv. in an interview with the bbc, pavel admitted that he was proud the fact that his country was one of the first to provide ukraine with significant military aid, who can say what
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is enough? it depends on the development of the situation on the battlefield, probably few could have imagined that western countries would want to provide ukraine with main battle tanks or longer-range artillery or anti-aircraft systems ukraine also requires modern aircraft, what is the difference between sending modern fighters of the fourth generation and simply sending oleg's artillery, a large dfs i believe that, first of all, the difficulty in training and logistical support of this equipment is much easier to prepare a crew for a tank than for a modern aircraft with all ground support, that is, for you, sending planes is not a taboo, and in fact i do not see any taboo because the only taboo we have for a number of reasons is direct participation nato military forces in ukraine, but when it comes to equipment, there should be no restrictions, because if we want to support this cause, we must provide ukraine with everything
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necessary to achieve success, but those who clearly perceive the sending of fighter jets and the sending of modern tanks as an escalation, more than 3 million people voted for this weekend, more than 2 million of you, and many of them , i am sure, would support what andrii babish calls the way of diplomacy, and not sending more and more weapons, how to convince them presenting them with the facts, the end of the war is completely in the hands of russia, it would only take one decision by president putin to withdraw troops from ukraine and the war would be over. so, it is not a matter of lack of will on the part of ukraine, it is not a matter of lack of goodwill on the part of western countries, but simply in russia, should ukraine should join nato as soon as this war is over. i believe that ukraine will be not only morally but also practically ready to join. the ukrainian army will probably be the most inexperienced of the european armies. you would like
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to see this ukrainian flag at the meeting nato in the future, i believe that they really deserve it, not about another high -profile event today , the police are conducting searches of the organizers of capital parties, the footage of which has circulated all over social networks , on the video you can see how the boys offend and humiliate the girls, they take pictures of them unconscious and naked, this video is widely publicized acquired after it was pointed out and outraged by users of social networks , among whom are well-known ukrainian tv presenters , users assumed that the girls were given a sleeping pill in the video filmed in dark rooms
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, boys can be seen touching naked and, apparently , unconscious girls, but it is difficult to see exactly what is happening there. organizations la strada ukraine maryna, mrs. maryna, that's all . this story with party organizers has a great resonance among society, and we see the quick reaction of the law enforcement officers, but you know what it catches the eye - these are the comments under the publications , this is her own fault, she didn't know where she was going, how do you comment on it ? congratulations. well, in fact, the big problem is that our society has exactly such comments, and you know, we would like to discuss and talk about the war of offenders and about their actions than about why this is happening in ukrainian society. what is happening is that there is a shift of blame and blame onto the victimized person and the victimized person
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who suffered, in addition to really illegal actions from on the part of the offender, she is further traumatized by society, which blames why did you leave? why did you drink alcohol, but no, uh, any trips to any parties, or drinking alcohol are not the same and are not consent to sexual relations or on any other criminal activity and society, here it is worth understanding one thing that the offender is always the guilty person and the injured person is always in the role of the injured person and everything that happens to him lies in fact what happens to him in illegal within the framework actually lies precisely in the plane of guilt of the critic here, it should be noted that right now this situation is being investigated by a law enforcement officer. we do not know what happened there, the law enforcement officers promise to give more information later, but in general , it is obvious that situations where women and girls cannot
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protect themselves happen often without a relative of this situation, in general, how often do victims of sexual or psychological violence seek help, er, in fact, this is the most latent crime. if we talk about sexual violence, then in the majority most of the affected persons do not seek help because they are afraid of the reaction of law enforcement agencies, and i believe that and i am sure that the proper response of law enforcement agencies to this particular situation will become a guarantee of increasing trust in law enforcement agencies , in particular regarding the appeal in cases of sexual violence, therefore, to the appeal we have in connection with the distrust of state bodies and also in connection with the condemnation of society because even in such a blatant
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situation we see that society is still blames the injured girls, without talking about the fact that if it is rape in marriage or sexual violence in marriage, it is still, to the great regret of our society, still at the moment makes the victim sorghum the culprit and blames what happened not on the offender. in this way, it additionally traumatizes the victim and victimizes the injured person, and yet when the victims do ask for help or bring these cases to court, especially considering the narratives we talked about at the beginning of our conversations, yes, if we have criminal proceedings, the vast majority of these criminal proceedings still end with a trial, and this is very important today, moreover , in connection with the ratification of
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the convention there and the implementation of the legislation of ukraine in accordance with the norms of the istanbul convention, a number of articles of the criminal code have been changed, and today we have very clear and meaningful definitions of rape and sexual violence and forced access to sexual intercourse. therefore everything is demarcated, everything is very clearly regulated, therefore, it is very important to apply, it is very necessary, and the main thing is not to be afraid and understand what , er , such an application is. help... if the crime happened here and now, you must definitely contact the national police authorities and before that , of course, not to destroy the evidence, it is very, very
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important... that's why in the first minutes of the hour as only became aware of the crime and there is an opportunity to apply, you need to apply to the national police authorities accordingly , then they will send you to a forensic medical examination, other necessary immunobiological examinations , other necessary examinations and investigate the case, if the victim needs legal assistance, psychological assistance, these are others, such as state institutions, yes and non-governmental institutions, in particular, such victims have the right to free secondary legal assistance, this means that they have the right to a free lawyer and have the right contact the centers of the bureau for free secondary legal services specifically to receive such help, and of course, for psychological support, you can contact social service centers, and you can contact non-governmental public organizations, in particular
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, you can contact our organization for a comprehensive hotline where you can get both legal and psychological support thank you, mrs. maryna , that's all we have to finish for today, another story , look for it on our website bbc.ua, turn it on tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. good luck ah, join the community with a ukrainian view of the world, become a sponsor of

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