[000:00:00;00] on facebook for searches if suddenly there were such places yaroslav zheleznyak people's deputy of ukraine the voice of the deputy chairman of the committee on finance, tax and customs policy we talked about today's searches in the sbu today announced that the current searches are aimed at fighting the internal enemy the leader of the servant of the people faction spoke more eloquently davyd arkhamia, commenting on the search and release he said that they say that the country will change during the war if someone is not ready for changes, then the state itself will come and help them change, and volodymyr zelenskyi in his address yesterday, announcing another batch of resignations, he said that those officials who do not meet the requirements of society should not sit in their chairs, the ukrainian government explains all these searches and dismissals mostly by the fight against corruption, but how sincere is volodymyr zelenskyi, in particular, because in particular, he is still in his office the just-mentioned oleg

tatarov works, he is the deputy head of the president's office, and a large corruption trail has been trailing behind him for a long time. iryna sysak will continue. oleg tatarov is currently the deputy head of the office of the president, and earlier of the officials of the ministry of internal affairs, whose reputation is regularly questioned, and who sowed yanukovych and the revolution of dignity, then in 2014 covered the events on the independence square from the side of the police and actually justified the security forces by spreading accusations against the activists on the streets . are going to stop the confrontations in the midst of events. he even received an award from yanukovych , the program of the scheme was published by the deputy head of the main investigative department. the ministry of internal affairs, which was headed by zakharchenko, was directly headed by mykola chenchin, and it was at that time that the tatar chenchin were, so to speak, the groups

of yanukovych's interests against the activists of euromaidan. further , tata rov is indeed one of the most tainted and closest to the former government of today's government, and in general, there are even ukrainians who there are times of prosperity of the party of regions yes. that is, these are precisely the structures that were engaged in, were affiliated with the state, engaged in hematosis , the name of oleg tatarov rang out loudly again in 2020, when president volodymyr zelenskyy appointed him as his deputy in his office, despite the reminder of the law on lustration , public activists created a petition against such a decision and protested already in december of the same year . the ukrbud investigation believes that the current deputy of the president's office may be involved. suspicion was declared under the article about bribery of the state

. more than 70 million hryvnias were stolen from the soldiers of the national guard. the person who actually controls the entire law enforcement system from the president's office is suspected of a corruption crime, and what do you think, and saving this person from the anti-corruption bureau and the corruption prosecutor's office, the president's office brought in three members of the sbu, the national police, and the national police to judge? then the prosecutor general's office saved tatarov's case from being acquired by the security service, saved taro from criminal responsibility as part of the investigation that was necessary when a wave of resignations swept through the government offices including anti-corruption, oleg tatarov remains at the bank and, according to lawyer oleksandr lemenov, manages all law enforcement agencies except the nabu

and sap. about other bodies, for example , the state customs service, the national asset recovery agency, or arma. where absolute control was also established, there was also the security service of ukraine, headed by someone close to tatarova, whose head is vasyl myl, as a result, in the system of criminal bodies, only two bodies are not under the control of the tatar, the national anti-corruption bureau and the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office are assigned influence , including the investigation of journalist mykhailo tkach, according to political scientist mykola davydyuk, the journalist told how in 2021, on the occasion of oleg tatarov's birthday , high-ranking officials of law enforcement agencies and even those who should have investigated the case from

the state deputy prosecutor general gathered benediktova simonenko, the chief police officer of the kyiv region, allegedly until recently the first deputy head of the sbu, bakanova, the kid should also watch the investigation of mykhailo tkach and bigus, who actually spoke and showed the very great influence of this person on his birthday, and those who were there. and then now there are a lot of insights from anti-corruption officials about who his person is , whom he influences, he already manages the law enforcement system, people set up the system, everything is working well, after releasing him, it will all have to be built from scratch, plus if you will release him, how do you? yes, to all the people whom he has appointed that you must follow the instructions, the experts interviewed by us are inclined to the opinion that the person of oleg tatarov is already under the monitoring of the partner countries from the received states and the event suggests that such people can really, let's say, go under by their vigilant monitoring . it is clear that the ukrainian authorities demand that the fight against corruption , the cleaning of the power unit

, the cleaning of many departmental structures is to talk about potential dismissal, then definitely without under the pressure of our western partners, primarily the americans, no tatarov will be released from an internal call in the president's office, for the same, how useful is it to release a person in different configurations, there is no conditionally invalidity and officials of the president's office kyrylo manenko, the same person under whose leadership the tatarov case migrated, has already been dismissed from nabu to the security service, the question of whether the turn of resignations will reach tatarov himself remains open iryna sysak volodymyr pautov radio svoboda what exactly does oleg tatarov do in how does the president's office react to his possible resignation? we asked him a number of questions, sent a request to the president's office and will be happy to give him the opportunity to speak , or even i will record an interview with him, which if oleg yuriyovych does not mind. well, for now,

about oleg's prospects tatarov in volodymyr zelenskyi's team, we will talk with an expert, marksa vchuk , the head of the council of public control will join mark . good evening, when volodymyr zelenskyi announced the first wave of dismissals. and many predicted that his position could to lose oleg tatarov well, if we are talking about the office of the president, but then kyrylo tymoshenko lost his position, the media in turn write that the usa may introduce sanctions against tatarov, so what are the prospects and are there any grounds to believe that the wave of resignations , if not this one, will affect her next oleg tatarov, is he really irreplaceable by anyone? a very good question, and indeed we see a large number of resignations, and some of them can be explained by internal games, that the clans are fighting for power. but definitely, if someone resigns, those are not included in this explanation, so the question

of the proto-rogo , what will happen to him, is my personal opinion. and zelensky can no longer distinguish himself from this in any way. and i believe that he will not lose his position, but because when there was a case against him a-a in the nabu . was before our conversation with you with the help of the dictation of the pechersk court, the sbu simply chewed up the case and handed it over to the sbu, and the sbu immediately buried the case . it is very important to have

a proud family name. if you talk about it loudly enough, otherwise the participation of such a person will be decided. well, i have to say here that after all, the court did not put an end to this subjective and objective reasons in the case of oleg tatar, the case simply did not reach the court. that's how i understand him there are certainly suspicions that corruption took place, but you didn't put an end to it, you said about sanctions that it is possible to expect sanctions from washington against oleg tatarov, and then it is possible that some personnel decisions will be made in ukraine in kyiv , that's the question, how likely is it that these i will introduce sanctions from that point of view. does it really have or are there reasons that can actually be the basis for the introduction of sanctions? there is also a specific list of these reasons and the tatars either meet these criteria or do not meet them if objectively

look well, he is responsible for introducing sanctions against him, and look at sanctions against such people as portnov, such people as dubinsky, and the argumentation of those united in the states was about the fact that these are people, either uh, from the influence of russia, or these are people who influence their a- and corruption yes say that the influence corrupts the system in ukraine, and in this case, look, i am not a legal expert who will say that it is possible or impossible, in the end, the administration of the middle states accepts such a solution, and i can’t tell you enough, i can tell you that i consider oleg tatorov to be a determined agent of russian influence , because everything he did was always either against the west or in the interests of the russian federation. an agent who is engaged in only because he does not support the reforms that are being carried out in ukraine

, and they are also corrupting the system in ukraine. arranged bribes to officials in order to have those contracts that were arranged, one more question if everything is so well, how come you now voiced such depressing things, in fact, there are few. who has doubts about the fact that volodymyr zelenskyi is doing everything possible in the international arena to get help for ukraine and even his perennial critics, anti-corruption experts, recognize the efforts of the president here, if what you say is true, then how does such a person do in the company of volodymyr zelenskyi ? maybe he is something so valuable, but i am valuable. of ukraine, oleg tatarov is a very good question

, honestly. we all have the same question . what is oleg tatarov doing? february 24 and it's good that the question system was asked in our system, this question was even from the moment of his appointment, the moment of the change of power in the presidential administration, when andriy yarmak became the head of the presidential administration , and look at the appointment of that lego - this is not a unique case if he will look at the other appointees and orders of the presidential administration. for some reason, we will also see a bunch of ideological regionalists and corrupt officers there. concretely hires them for work a-a and eh castle whom they recognize here a-a in this case how useful is he to the president this person really understands very well in the law enforcement system of ukraine a-a he

understands very well how it works and since the president set the task of putting the law enforcement system under control because it is sincere to him, well, it seems to him sincerely that he cannot show the result until it is fully under his control, but now we see that the law enforcement system is not under your control it doesn't help to fight corruption. and if you remember, in the 19th and 20th years, the president stated more than once at meetings with international partners that the reforms made the biggest corruption in ukraine no more, and now we see it literally every day, the deputy minister, who is the minister , the very head of the presidential administration , is fired, and it turns out that ukraine is thoroughly corrupt. on the contrary, it turned out that corruption permeated absolutely everything and that in fact it is necessary

to make reforms, they are engaged in populism, here is the reason for which , at least, until now, and vsje even still is in his position, if vladimir aleksandrovich suddenly understands that instead of populism, it is necessary to do real reforms and in that case your system will be cleansed of corruption, then of course we will see that very quickly oleg tatov will lose his post in two days on friday and the ukraine summit will start in ukraine eu. do you think they will remind volodymyr zelensky about oleg tatarov, so about this, again , the fair will be organized by andriy borisovich . we believe that this is your biggest problem and you need to pay attention to your team. what vladimir aleksandrovich all the time on these conversations responded to the radio justice

. this is my team and i appoint whomever i want. ah, and western partners, you know, they are recognized as promoters of reforms in ukraine, but they don’t have to be a mouthpiece to tell the president who to choose for his team . by and large, we and the government should be interested in the reforms. and if we don't care that one of the most influential people in power is an idealist, the man who helped yanukovych and beat activists on the maidan, then this is ours the problems are the problems of the usa or germany. what this will certainly result in is that the west will not consider that we are sufficient. trust that we will be allowed

to help us with huge amounts of money. to fight with the russian army, this is what it will lead to. in this case, we are not very predictable partners, that is, on the one hand, we are at war with russia, on the other hand, we have a lot of corruption and people who are ideologically pro-russian for the west. it is not clear. well, they believe that if the country is at war with russia, then people like collectors should not be in power. but this is the decision of vladimir zelensky. once again , for the sake of justice , i will tell oleg yuriyovych that we sent the request, so if he wants to talk to us, we will be happy thank you very much, mark savchuk, the head of the public, the head of the public control council, was on radio svoboda, thank you, and once again about the searches, another search was also conducted today at the former high-ranking officials of the ministry of defense about in particular, the former deputy minister of defense of ukraine was informed of the suspicion. the prosecutor general's office said that this is probably about vyacheslav shapovalov. this is the same person who wrote the resignation letter after the story about the expensive eggs for

the ministry of defense came out. according to the investigation, the suspect lobbied for the conclusion of contracts for the supply of products for the military at inflated prices for the purchase of bulletproof vests, clothing and other items for the needs of the armed forces of low quality , the former head of the department also received suspicion public procurement of the supply of material resources of the ministry of defense, the ukrainian pravda publication, with reference to own sources , reports that it is bohdan khmelnytskyi, according to journalists, in khmelnytskyi, suspicion has been declared on the fact that he squandered public funds for the purchase of low-quality body armor, as specified in the press service of the sbu, the official purchased almost 3,000 body armor for more than 100 million hryvnias, however, according to several independent examinations, the products do not meet the requirements of the fourth class of body armor and cannot

to properly protect ukrainian soldiers, the ex-deputy of the state enterprise promboronexport, volodymyr tereshchenko, was also suspected. the prosecutor general's office of the sbu published a photo from the searches . it is noted that during the searches, cash and weapons were found. at all levels, wherever they are , there will be no return to the past ukraine is following the european path but do not deviate from it the authorities assume responsibility if you do not agree to live by the law, it will be a criminal responsibility of the ministry of defense, at first, journalists say that there is corruption in the ministry of defense when purchasing ammunition , the ministry of defense says that it is fraud, manipulation , at the same time, the people who are responsible for the procurement are resigning, and now these people are being suspected. in fact, what is the deception about which the ministry of defense declared , yuriy butusov , the editor-in-chief of the internet publication censor.net and a military journalist who spends a lot of time, joins our broadcast

conducts and on the front lines as a journalist yuriy good evening i congratulate you on the current suspicions of the officials from the ministry of defense whether they arrived at the address or not i think at the address because there is a suspicion, that is, some type of crime that was seen by the prosecutor, as far as i know , there is really an investigation into almost the entire spectrum of public procurement which was managed by shapovalov and other officials of the ministry of defense, but the minister of defense oleksiy varshikov was directly responsible for all this, which is why, of course, minister liznikov initially tried to justify all these things but now we see that, for some reason, suspicions have been raised against many managers, except for the minister himself, who is primarily responsible for all this. well, you know, er, i want

to ask you just in time. do you think that minister reznikov knew about what was happening in his department, or maybe he just didn't know, well, we can theoretically allow ourselves to assume that reznikov is appointed to a position and they say that you have strengths, you are a lawyer, you have good communication skills, excellent english , travel around the world and agree on weapons for ukraine, and i don't touch the eggs and potatoes of mine, so be it theoretically, you know, it could be anything. the fact is that minister varshikov is absolutely not an independent political figure and a person who, in principle , did not know anything about the ministry of defense until the moment of his appointment, was never interested in defense issues and was not noticed even for volunteer activities. therefore, as usual, this political appointment of a person is absolutely distant, who had absolutely no understanding of what she

would be doing. and all this happened because of that different is the person of the head of the office of the president andriy yarmak directly yarmak lobbied there well, president zelensky liked him, apart from his personal inclinations and sympathies , the minister of the ministry of defense did not have any professional skills or skills. and what does this mean, does it mean that we have a natural situation when people are appointed because they are friends of kuma, familiar business partners to the highest government positions and they are specially appointed so that they do not understand anything at all in the field where they are appointed, this applies to the entire current teams of the ministry of defense these are absolutely, first of all, incompetent people who, in principle, have no idea what they understand what they do and cannot formulate independent views on strategy and

development priorities, especially during such a terrible war, and as a result, this is only one small thing, these criminal cases, these scandals this is only a small and currently public part, a very small part of the mess and the problems that lead to the appointment of such familiar friends of business partners to such important positions and unprofessional ones at that absolutely, in fact, a much bigger problem is what is happening now and happened during the formation of the defense policy despite the fact that we are lagging behind in the war in terms of strategic decisions and for this we pay not money and lose hundreds of millions of billions well, we are losing priceless hundreds of thousands of human lives, this is really the biggest problem. well, the fact that they

do not even know how to organize their own pr for the purpose of which they were appointed there is that they really have procurement violations. these are just small, small consequences, just very small ones that are already obvious now. well, under the pressure of our western partners, first of all, the usa, the authorities are forced to hand in such small performers on such things in order to show that it is generally capable. so i just wanted to add here that we talk so much about reznikov mr. reznikov of the minister of defense we also made a request and we will be happy to give him the floor on the air, just so far there have been no such wishes on his part, you know , you said that if i understood correctly that it is quite likely that mr. reznikov in due to the lack of experience in managing the ministry of defense, he could not have known

about corruption in the procurement of products for his department, but here it is. it turns out so so so so so . i believe that he knew about the conclusion of agreements worth tens of billions of hryvnias, you can not even doubt that without his sanction and personal control, such a decision cannot be made because it is a big contract, contracts worth tens of billions of hryvnias, and of course the minister you can assume anything, but the fact that he controlled these payment orders, signed and controlled the conclusion of agreements. there are no doubts. well, it seems that despite the corruption in the department, reznikov will not lose his position, at least. we hear some news about the dismissal of ministers, but reznikov. it is not relevant here, it is important to say that valery zaluzhny stood up for reznikov. he said that it is not

necessary to transfer the responsibility of subordinates to managers because it harms the business . do you agree with this thesis hmm i believe that such words can be applied to some completely different nature of the situation that was associated, for example, with some specific mistakes or managerial shortcomings in this case in this case i cannot agree with such an assessment, i absolutely believe that this does not apply to this situation does not fit in any way and in no way can justify the minister, especially the minister who, according to his official duties, is obliged to be responsible for this , who was not only aware of it, but also coordinated all this and who is obliged to be responsible for this, even if for some reason he wanted to turn away at the moment when such key decisions on the distribution of budget funds

for tens of billions of hryvnias were being adopted . that is, you think that volodymyr zelenskyi should fire reznikov. i absolutely believe that he should be fired of all people who are publicly not just varshikov himself, but whether it is a common european practice if people make such completely incompetent unprofessional statements as varshikov made even before the start of the war continues to do now if they raise doubts in our society, in the army, in our western allies who finance us in the transparency of their actions, and he himself admits it . by the way, to me, he acts opaquely in today's statement, that's why, of course, there should be political responsibility to stick with him it's not worth it, because the ministry of defense did not understand anything. in my opinion

, they still do not understand what we hear from his interview, that's why, of course, it is necessary to remove non- professionals. we need people who are something understand in general the defense of the country, since the life of our citizens is the main thing. well, what about the fact that they still can't manage their economic affairs and affairs and they don't even know how to build pr correctly, well, this simply means that they, this whole team, are absolutely not in our places and we have a little 2 minutes, but i have another question, but at the end of august, do you remember that journalists reported on the embezzlement of $580,000 of the funds of the ministry of defense during the purchase of military ammunition, and then the ministry of defense called this information as not corresponds to reality, but today it turns out that there is a suspicion of bohdan khmelnytsky, who was responsible for the purchase of ammunition , then it turns out that the ministry of defense also told a lie , that is, it is not only a matter of eggs and potatoes, the minister of defense and the ministry made a large number of false statements. i want to remind you that two days before invasion, minister

of defense varshikov on february 22. in general, he said that there will be no invasion because there are no signs, because russia has not deployed its strike groups near the borders. he just fired this person who has absolutely no command of the situation, does not understand what he is saying. well, these are already small things, and i want to tell you that there are such things, not politics, and there are a lot of them, just now, the war and journalists can't talk about everything, about the activities, the results activities of the ministry of defense itself, because it can harm the interests of national security, but we see that under the pressure of our western partners, there is a little transparency, at least in economic affairs. well, we are starting to open up a little. maybe they are not obliged to say and hint at it, but it looks like

reznikov has good contact with western partners , look at the good kadnak in the west, in the western partners, the officials of the state of ukraine have no problem, if you put a person there with a different surname, he will be the same to invite to all foreign countries of nato and he will also continue to conduct a dialogue with other leaders of his merits personally, there is none yuriy, thank you very much yuriy butusov, editor -in-chief of the online publication tsenzor.net military a journalist and was on radio svoboda, we talked about corruption in the ministry of defense well, the latest news is also about the detention, as of now , the security service of ukraine reported the detention in kyiv of an employee of ukroboronprom who worked for russian military intelligence, allegedly informs the investigation. he covertly collected information about available ukrainian weapons that received by the units of the armed forces of ukraine on the eastern and

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