[000:00:00;00] oh oh thank you to our colleagues from the babylon 13 studio for the cycle of art in the country of war which we hunted we demonstrate every day around 11:15 on the clock now it's 11:30 ihor chischerinda and khrystyna yatskiv are with you on the bakhmuta express but also the naliman direction from luhansk region with the crime of the enemy very the south of avdiyivka is being activated, of course, vugledar, but it is bakhmut that is the focus of attention now, volunteer work is aimed at this city as much as possible, since there remain about 6,000 civilians , including 200 children. in addition, in kramatorsk yesterday evening he flew in. hi, so to speak, from our northern neighbors, and two people, three people already, according to information

, ova died as a result of hitting a residential building, we will talk about the situation on the spot with our next guest. but before that, i will note now you will see a video that is actively spreading on social networks, the author of this video, orio avian, is a volunteer and a photo and photographer from israel, who is currently working in

ukraine, let's look at more details about what is happening in the video with a spoiler, it is an evacuation from one of the populated points in the bakhmut district, we will ask mykhailo dobrishman, the co-founder of the ua base. hello, congratulations. i congratulate you. hello, good day, mr. mykhailo. this video reminded me personally of the well-known video of the evacuation through the so-called romaniv bridge from irpen, do you remember when a column of civilians was also covered with mortar fire near the church and then on it's a pity, the whole family , a man, a woman, and two children were killed during this shelling, and there was an injury on live air, this actually happened during the shooting , and a representative of the tereborana, who accompanied them there, was also injured of civilians at this time, talking to journalists

, were there any people injured during this shelling ? all the people are alive and well. all the people are alive and well. they have been taken to a peaceful place. everything is fine. yes. and it’s simple. god help me. it seems to me that the damage caused by a mine at such a distance is small and there are no injuries . i will show no impression. then in irpen, well, four people died. because such a handful flew in. well, yes. god decided another characteristic feature of this video is that the evacuation crew is a basic one that worked it consisted of both our ukrainian people and our foreign friends who come completely civilian civilians do their work volunteer help eh they are all exactly the same as chris perry and

andrew bekshu, who recently died in soledar mykhailo , are they not afraid of a foreigner going to such a hot spot as bakhmut? formed on the basis of the diverse experience of volunteers who worked in syria, iraq, and afghanistan and our experience , but as you can see in this video, luck has a place, that is, yes, if it concerns foreign volunteers of course, there is a certain fear, but when people come here, they understand what exactly they will do here, and why did they come here, so yes, let's go

. no, it is not so large-scale, but as always we can to observe such a situation that the closer the front line moves, the greater the flow becomes, for example, from villages that were more or less safe there a few weeks ago, that is, after the capture of soledar, a large flow of nearby villages increased and it is from there that the requests for evacuation come in some way by the routes of the needs of civilians

, because there is information from the military that the russians are trying to cut these routes, and this, of course, complicates the work and makes it more dangerous. weeks ago, now it is either cut off or it is under the fire control of the russians, some roads are simply shot through, so it is dangerous to move along them. but there are still options for entering bakhmut in the surrounding world of the village. therefore, for now, we are working in the same mode as i worked at home. well, the team of the ua base works not only in the immediate front-line territories, but also in the de-occupied territories, and it often happens that people in these territories need the elementary benefits of civilization. as they say , there is a shortage of medicine. i know that you, along with the team of volunteer doctors of frida i.ua regularly make trips to such people, what do you encounter, what kind of contingent is there in front of the seven and is there enough medical support for the hands of all

that the state should provide e-e. everything is true, it has been for several months e-e. our organization has such a project is a project of a mobile clinic within the framework of this project. we cooperate with frida's organization . they come on their weekends . in the de-occupied territories it will be the same in the donetsk region now there is not enough qualified personnel there is not enough medicine so uh, we usually come with more than 20 or 20 doctors and conduct such mobile clinics, they have already taken place in seversk , lyman, svyatohorsk, bakhmut, several times and now, also within the framework of our project, our partner organization, german kados , has handed over to us such a medical trating

, please, this car is actually a unique story, it is small, but mobile and very an efficient hospital with everything you need inside , which can travel to people who need medical help. yes, it is basically such a therapeutic office on wheels that we can use to move around. well, now , as we work on the donetsk region, yes in fact, if he was here, he would be here, this clinic would work. maybe in the future we will expand our area of ​​work . that's why there are so many people who are in a supine position and cannot even during of these doctors' appointments to get to the hospital because it is this tract uh it will help us a lot with the treatment of such patients, and in addition, there are such

villages in rural areas of unoccupied territories that simply have not one left in the entire administrative building, and it is simply impossible to see such and such doctors there. with such forces, we usually import people by cars , but this will make our work much easier now, this tract we will be able to simply come and fit it and in such villages to carry out, uh, carry out assistance , examine patients, well, and one more very interesting case related to your work i know what you relocated a whole family from seversk to vinnytsia region without relying on the state for any help in this aspect of the volunteer carried out this operation yourself and again our international partners helped in this it is even about the purchase

of a plot of land and a house in the vinnytsia region for this family very briefly . building and if we would like to make repairs but we didn't find enough funds for this , so we decided to go a little different way , and we started looking for small houses. well, in principle , how small is one of the houses, 100 m² and 20 acres of land. - that is, they went down this path, you can say that they killed two birds with one stone and relocated a family of 10 people from a dangerous place, and if they gave that village a little bit of a second lease of life, because of course we observe that there is an outflow of people from

such places in central ukraine, that is, now at the expense of e displaced persons e-e when we let's follow how these people integrate into a mentality that is a little different for them, because they have lived most of their lives in the east of our country. now they are staying in another region. well, how will this region accept them, i promise you for sure this is the continuation of this story. thank you. we are very limited in time. mykhailo dobrishman, co-founder of the ua base, was in touch with us. now we have the time of the information war chronicle with olga leni. congratulations. we will see in a moment . there is something to tell about. congratulations. let's start with a textbook example. russian lies on tuesday, january 31, the international non-governmental organization human raid watch published lyudmila's report in which she assumed that because

there was no evidence in this, such iron uh-uh , she assumed uh-uh well, russian propaganda tales are told that the ukrainian army used anti-personnel mines eh pm-1 it’s such a mine of petals under the raisins in the kharkiv region well, it would seem that russian propaganda should seize on this , it will be delighted to tell a lot and indeed they mentioned it on the air, but without of special delight and so, well, in passing, for example, look at human right watch, print, notices the use of mine petals , which are prohibited, about which we talked for months, a friend notices, talks about it, but says where in one point, raisin, that is, from the point of view of this, absolutely this is a game office, ukraine, one prohibited mines were used once in one place, but at the same time, they were used

in donetsk for months, not as if, that is, there is no seriality , one thing is just a murderer, the other is a serial killer, this is much more dangerous. well, in in principle, i definitely know how to be a serial learner, that’s for sure. and you know about the use of anti-personnel mines, there is a lie here, because in my previous programs, a few months ago, i just showed how the russians themselves sprinkled donetsk with these mines in order to show something there and create some kind of ghosts for the loss, the whole point is that ukraine has not only joined the tatar convention on the prohibition against anti-personnel mines, russia has not joined, that is, it is not for them to talk about the use of prohibited mines.

join the convention first and stop using them like this, ukraine not only joined, ukraine destroyed these soviet-style mines that we had in stock during all these years, that is , the greater part of these mines were simply stupidly destroyed in ukraine, they were destroyed even in the 20th year in the middle of the war so where is the war, ukraine destroys its own mines, you can imagine it, and in russia you can imagine such a thing, where at all no way. so , ukraine destroyed their prices. ukraine constantly in the 18th year there were statements of ukraine that people are good, well, they were for international communities there they are all around what good people let's do something russia uses these mines as a way to fight against a country that doesn't respect any at all that doesn't join them that uses prohibited weapons something must be done about it like this and after that russia starts scattering them somewhere there something there to create some kind of organization like human raid watch. they want

to be like that, you know, we're not with the ones and the worst, this is us . so here we are in the middle. let 's find something to tell that everyone is equally bad and no, it doesn't work like that, it's not like that. works because if russia is using it completely, then russia is using it completely, and as a result, russia itself is now not satisfied with this because they wanted such publicity to tell something like that, and here some kind of people scratched something there with great difficulty, where they cannot clearly say what it was russia, because now you can't prove anything there, and now they 're telling it. well, that's it . so , that's an example of that. and then after that, now the main topic is obvious, now that bakhmut, bakhmut, and ukraine. for some reason, bakhmut has to pass . they talk about it all the time and on all tv shows

, that’s about artemovsky , ukrainians speak ukrainian fighters. to organize several defense lines , that is, they are not gathering well, as in mariupol, they were not gathering in the course of military science, it is necessary to surrender the city and save the personnel, but they are gathering to do one more a specialist in military science well, in fact, not everything is so simple there and not everything is so straightforward to pass, moreover, er, er, in these russian broadcasts, they are forced to admit well, somehow, in principle, this is what they took, somehow it doesn’t work out very well, and this is they also have to say this because when you said three days ago that now we are going to capture bakhmut, but he is not here , he is not there, and i have to explain why they are not talking about it much now , because i see how my colleagues who are

discussing it and here they are today i listen to us that there has slowed down in the ugledarsky direction the offensive well what does it mean it's just biting by the meter yes but it's going it's going very hard today we are tomorrow they uh with artemovsky too you will elect me how many times have you already sent the news that here is maryenka maryenko already here is how everything would be marynka almost everything maryenko that's it and how it would be and almost everything and almost everything and pochte everything and how it would everything even here it would be maryka is not there and meryem kamnet so that you understand this practically she has been since february of last year maryanka is not there. well if we talk about vugledar, vugledar is now considered by the russians to be the main direction in general, and now they are trying to promote it , if it is so important, because everyone understands that it is a control railway, it is an opportunity for the russians to use the railway. this is really a strategic point and there is a task in this strategic point there is a task to somehow capture it, but not everything is so simple, look

, the well-known task will be put to completion . as for artemovsk , the expression that the city is located in an operational environment we have talked about it repeatedly, it introduces confusion into our responsibility . well, there are no operatives. to the fact well, in short, this is the general mood, that is, there is nothing there either. no, it is easier to set a task than to do it, and it is better not to report at all. but nevertheless, something must be said, and that is why i constantly say that the ukrainian command is now directly everything will turn out, well, everything doesn’t seem like it, and in the meantime, uh, because that’s how strange conversations began that time somehow

works like that, it ’s unknown what it works for. we also have a temporary factor , so that they hit the energy structure in ukraine, it had an effect, but this effect ends. effect which we initially received and which gave us a certain temporary advantage, it is ending and therefore russia must either act more decisively with a military plan , that is, carry out a general offensive, or use other methods to spend more time and rather work on the united states than on us, we have the effect and advantages, we would lose it probably closer to the summer, if nothing else for this period, it starts from february

, then august, we won't do it. after all the hysteria that let's detonate everything immediately and let's also somehow exclude ukraine and let's there so that the sewers don't work, after it became clear that somehow it's not working out very well, now they're clearly giving a kickback, that is, they're trying to create hysteria in the population with shut up and these speeches began, what do you see? well, we were doing something exactly like that, but now maybe we shouldn't do it or do it somehow differently, and it's not on the same air, they're walking marshmallows on the air, watch show ukraine, the people get turn off the light bulbs, why? well, you will spend a huge amount of weapons on this, but in two weeks there will be a dream of things again

. well, this is a very complicated system. хоче бы от части мы the enemy's ability in time надо этой делать they because we want it so and most likely they will now somehow bomb a little with different targets and with another with a different periodicity so you can draw a cursory conclusion well a in general, conversations have become more frequent that somehow it is necessary to get out of this whole situation that they created for themselves idiot war and if the president says that there is a war and that well, the president will say that there is a war and now we are not conducting a special military operation , there will be a war and even he he will say, let us go, that there is a war with ukraine, and that there is a 30th world war, nothing, russia turned out to be floats from which it would be necessary to box, it is clear that some kind of single-purpose, full-scale

, full-scale victory will not be fought at all i'm sorry to fuck with the entire nato block or to fight in ukraine when 30 countries have military, technical, financial, diplomatic, medical second support and i'm ready to provide it for a very long time, i don't think that it will turn out well for russia get over it, too, i was patriotically in tears, i was in tears, for god's sake, than now or last year, and it only took me two or three years, three years, then the loss of the victim, the realization that it is unlikely to be defeated. well, from this word, it is unlikely will win. they somehow move very quickly now to that. well, what will happen if we lose, and these conversations are very interesting, too

, because i am still so realistic and i still do not see our victories without talking. well, even imagine in a nightmare that we lose on the field fear, well, some serious crisis in the country after this. but even after this , i don't see any theoretical options . now i'll say now that, er, russia is in such a state that the worst option will develop, and it's that she 's going to chip away at something will be on the edge maxim maxim that you are now engaged in what is a very strange story i showed the moth just how extreme you are starting to discuss the moth as if seriously in parts and thus passing it on like a bottle ah yes they were passing legitimacy yes that is exactly how it sounds and the point is that there they showed how professor oleksandr motyre discusses the fact that russia will actually remain muscovy and everything else will split off. and this is what will split off. these

conversations all became bigger because an event took place that even solovyov was forced to do. discuss от look and listen how the representative of the gai national movement anvar kurmannaya kaef in the european parliament at the forum of the free nations of russia declared the following astrakhan khanate , it was the capital of the nogai horde today, eh, it has been occupied for 500 years, eh, today, eh, 200,000 e.e. , the ethnic population of naveshka lives there, and we want to create a cut-off

republic of astrakhan on the basis of these peoples, the people of this native nation. the main thing, what the hell are you talking about in russian, let's talk in your language, what are you, russian language , come on, i don't know my native language, i don't know it, i don't know my native language , i don't know the history of it. when there are no schools with native language or it is the only one in the whole city and at the same time to tell and what is it that everyone speaks russian, well, this is this and this is this, this is vile politics this is such a vile policy what are you like suddenly what are you speak russian even if you have never spoken russian they taught their own language. it’s really cool that this meeting was held, the forum of the peoples of russia, and they have been taking place since may. the fact that there is a constant conversation . the fact that there was such a declaration by these peoples of russia that they want to form all this spilled out . in the fact that it began to enter mass

culture, he was the first to sing about it in a song where he said hungary will be free, hungary is a territory so that it is clear to you around st. petersburg itself , the leningrad region, in fact. there were finnish tribes that had this ingria, and literally yesterday there was a new cartoon called memasyan, which is just that, it ’s all about that. and what will happen after russia loses? always left everyone has been playing the battle for mariela for a long time, not in the civil way, of course good games, you know that moscow is all strictly fenced and aggressive, especially our ingrea after blagoetsnitsy soured any contacts , neighborhood with ours yes pudie damn there is no border with

moscow and there are no problems with our beer here and you you're all smurfing us, and because i remember everything, where did the sanist junta go, i pay my interest for reparations correctly, they allowed people from moscow to enter there for three days, if you are not smeared in the ukrainian war , you only need to pass a test on the body, an exam of ukrainian recognition and present an archive of your kotov in 22 23 hours well, yes, this is now being discussed in russia and very widely . i want you to understand that this is not something that is so medieval, some kind of russian propaganda line, simply russian propaganda can no longer turn a blind eye to it, it also has to talking about it, she also talks about the fact that there were conversations that could not have been imagined 25 years ago about the dismemberment of russia and now everyone is talking about it calmly and they are thinking about it and what will happen when russia loses

guys and who achieved this in 25 years point your finger, it was someone else. it wasn't the russians, it wasn't putin's government . who was someone else? yes, and the main thing is the main intimidation that exists there to repeat the revolution in russia. destruction means a counterattack, therefore, crimea is a point of principle for russia, therefore, they are still a point for ukraine, that's all this leads to us overstressing russia, that's why they add internal turmoil and come up with their favorite scenario, the only one that allowed them to defeat russia in february 1917, that's all the scenario therefore, they need a long conflict , if not a long one, then he was looking for it sharply. and this indignation within the country, which will not

be provoked by the creation of ukrainian complications. knees up for discussion and what will be left of russia after losing the series. that's what russia gives after all, it can still stay, it can stay, or it knows it, of course, i would say yes, putin has really outplayed everyone , it's an achievement, that's it, see you this week in the program judicial control with tetyana shustrova, newly elected members of the people's party of ukraine who participated in the machinations of the judicial mafia and covered up criminal schemes .

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