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[000:00:00;00] embroidery and how is it to bring all the mayors with a fingernail because after the revolution the dignity of communities actually survived and felt the taste of opportunities to manage their own lives. i believe that the fact that many territories and citizens who demonstrated protests during the occupation by muscovites this is also due to the fact that they saw in ukraine the opportunity to live freely and independently determine their own directions of development, and this court endangered precisely the free development of communities , decentralization in ukraine, this court endangered the issue of the rule of law in for ukraine, this means our road to the european union, and therefore the mayors and heads of territorial communities naturally felt a sense of danger
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and what will ukraine be like tomorrow. 30 well, now we congratulate you, an employee of the armed forces of ukraine, ex-head of the special investigations department of the general prosecutor's office, mr. serhiy. glory to ukraine glory to the heroes good evening thank you defense of our country found an opportunity to join our broadcast and talk about an equally important topic. actually, you were a candidate for the position of director of the national anti-corruption bureau of ukraine, quite a bit . then you criticized the competition commission and it was fair for the mistakes in the questions . now the competition for the director is going on. nabu he is in the final stage, but there are certain reservations, in particular from the public sector, that
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this process is being somewhat forced, we had enough time to choose ... the demands from our partners have not gone anywhere, that's why it's happening now. well, yes, in turbo mode, if you can say, do you definitely share this opinion from the point of view of speeding up and defining some deadlines, there is a week or two weeks, so this is a certain pressure on the commission, which should not be, taking into account the fact that really lost about eight months, at least if we take half a year where they were calmly considered to hold this uh this competition and for today , again, it is not critical, again, a month uh, which can be spent on achieving an objective
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of the result, but this is not, in my opinion, the main reason, because after actually participating in this competition and encountering errors and violations, i appealed to the commission to eliminate it because i saw that the competition was taking on such an appearance that it was not is not objective and unbiased, but unfortunately the commission did not want to respond to my complaints at all and one of the main comments of the error is the following one of the main comments is that the law on nabugo says that the e-e commission must choose a nabu director who by e-e business moral qualities at the professional level must correspond to this position, that is, among the candidates and they must be admitted to the interview based on the results
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of the five stages, at the same time, the commission , for reasons that are unclear and not having the authority to do so, determined that according to the first two stages, which are not related to professional qualifications - and moral qualities of the candidates, they determined that only 20 people pass the next round, that is, the logic is that if they really want to identify the candidates as fully as possible, a person who meets these qualities , then a larger number of candidates it allows the best choice to make, but according to the first rounds, which have nothing to do with professional qualities, they determined 20 and if it was objective here too, but i saw a situation when there were a large number of mistakes, i drew attention to them and then i already after
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passing the exam, i saw that the 9 to which i turned it was not the end. it turned out that you, so that you understand, choose the director of the nabu, who is appointed by the cabinet of ministers in matters of e-e, on the e-e testing, there is a question that says that what happens next, the president appoints the director of the nabu. not funny this is a question among the candidates regarding the state penitentiary service, there are six questions, and it has already been four years , and the state penitentiary service has not existed for four years . received points and passed on without declaring to the commission that they had discovered these violations - check everyone's answers then it will be objective the commission for these appeals of mine made a decision to refuse the recalculation of points in a hunchback, so i didn't ask myself
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to count the points i say that you are not doing it objectively because the situation is based on knowledge of the law and points are obtained by giving answers that are incorrect from the point of view of the law and i have a situation that definitely among the candidates who passed on there are those who pressed the button and got a point but gave the wrong answer and in general if we are talking about providing time to study these issues, that is, it has been two weeks, not a single candidate has declared to the commission that the commission has wrong answers, wrong answers do not correspond to the law, no, according to whom to appeal in a similar situation is one point, the second point is that you mentioned the so-called moral qualities that may not be very high-quality, well, this is one of the criteria. yes, i do not possess , so to speak, such a powerfully developed ethical apparatus to evaluate someone in
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terms of moral qualities. yes, but professionalism must be and it should be accordingly , so to speak, intelligence services and other analytics that should be presented, well, we understand , there are open sources, i am closed sources, that is , a person can demonstrate tremendous moral qualities, can be professional, and maybe later it turns out that she works for this or that oligarch or there is a representative of some police prosecutor clan of judges of an even older former, this also happens , according to or similar information from some archives there, some ord old-old and so on and so on, this is the whole business is it submitted to the commission or not? well, of course. it is submitted . of course, they give
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... citizens of ukraine about the fact that everything you know about the candidates regarding some of their shortcomings of dishonesty, please send to the appropriate email of the competition competition commission, but in my opinion, the commission itself shows a certain certain unethicality when, well , wartime conducts such a competition in one of the most expensive hotels in ukraine, that is, without informing on what grounds are they engaged there , i.e. state funds are spent on this, isn't there a state body where you can conduct appropriate testing, or if it is, er, some kind of charitable assistance the question of who is doing this charitable assistance and on what grounds for such an important competition where the purity of the process is extremely important and that is why
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there are, let's say, such doubts in the commission's activity, in my opinion there are more and more and the worst thing is that again i filed more than one complaint, i still hoped that with the presence of international members of the commission that they would at least consider it in detail, because it turns out that the questions that were submitted for the same knowledge of the law have been used for at least five years in testing by the prosecutor's office in nabu with the same mistakes and in a the commission stated that they prepared these questions specifically for this competition and here are only the answers, the first answer came to me after a month to my appeal, they admitted that yes, it is not, it is not a new question , thereby confirming that for some of the participants who knew about these issues, additional favorable conditions
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were created to pass with high quality and score 1 2 3 5 10 more points, that is , it gives the impression that there are some candidates who are given maximum support. and this is the worst thing that can be concluded from this of the competition at the current stage well, let's hope that this is just some kind of technical story, but there is one more extremely important moment, mr. sergiy. look , well, three finalists are chosen, and so after that there are three people who made it to the finals, so to speak, this competition is on its head. and accordingly, who is next, how will it be determined which of the three is the most relevant, and then the cabinet of ministers already makes a decision and the legislator does not already prescribe any competitions or any explanations , that is, in fact, the cabinet of ministers without providing additional explanations by simply voting to make a decision regarding one or another
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candidate, rejecting two or two others, the law that previously provided such an opportunity to the president and today, this issue is decided by the cabinet of ministers well, of course, the law provides that maximum transparency, the frequency of this competition is will lead to the final of three practically and ideal people in terms of their qualities and therefore in principle it will not matter much if one two only one is appointed but again moment with the fact that it is not even necessary to explain why we will choose one of the three, he also allows us to expect the possibility of some abuses, what about mr. serhiu, yesterday, uh, such a large raid by law enforcement agencies with searches took place on people who are suspected, including
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corruption actions eh how do you assess such intensity for one day today we can see some movements continue in the same way, but as for yesterday , well, just colossally active, all this happened very briefly, in your opinion, is there not some kind of extra forcing here there is in itself the fight against corruption and response to violations, it causes approval and it should be er and regularly because we see that this is a problem, it does not disappear, it exists, but a big minus is that there is such a concept as accountability and if violation of the investigation, regardless of the collected indisputable evidence , the next court can acquit the person only because the evidence was collected by the wrong body in the majority of these cases where the searches were conducted based on the fact that the dbr or the sbu reported the investigation there
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nabu and this is precisely where the question arises. why are these materials not handed over to nabu and why do you question the evidence that you may have received during these searches? let's leave it open for now. thank you for your inclusion. the former head of the special department of the general prosecutor's office of the forces of ukraine will discuss the issue of the competition for the director of the nabu later on our broadcast judicial control with tetyana shustrova, see this week in the program judicial control with tetyana shustrova newly elected members of the ukrainian people's party who took part in the circles of the judicial mafia and covered up criminal schemes, those who like to travel to the occupied crimea get into the highest bodies of judicial power, such acquaintances can be factors of influence, congratulations you are watching judicial control, i am tetyana shustrova , the supreme council of justice, after almost a year of non-
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functioning, finally gathered a quorum and restored its powers, this is a key judicial body, its members must have a crystal reputation and an impeccable biography in order for the judicial reform to continue to take place a at the same time, ukraine was moving. the european union of judges, which recently appointed eight members to these positions according to its quota , failed this test with a bang. today , we will continue to tell you how out of all the proposed candidates of the congress, it was possible to choose those whose integrity was not questioned. but first, to of news, the judge of the vasylkiv city district court of the kyiv region, maksym kovbal, will appear before the court, according to the investigation, he did not declare an apartment
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in the capital and two parking spaces submitted in the annual the information in the declaration differs from the real wealth by more than 5 million hryvnias, it should be noted that maksym kovbal is not the first to be prosecuted for entering unreliable data in the declaration , earlier the detectives of the national anti-corruption bureau established that he became the owner of a 142 m² apartment in the metropolitan residential complex through his mother-in-law izumrudny , at the same time, the investigation established that the official income of the minister of themis would not allow him to purchase expensive real estate. last year, the court imposed a bond of about 3 million six hundred thousand hryvnias as part of the cost of the apartment for almost 5 million, the security service of ukraine began checking information about the travels of the judge of the sixth administrative court of appeal, yaroslav vasylenko, to the annexed crimea . the journalists of the scheme program established that the judge vasylenko
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visited the russian-occupied peninsula several times every year since 2014, making a total of 25 such trips. trips having spent at least 206 days in crimea, the judge's family also has undeclared real estate in crimea and moscow registered to the judge's citizen wife of the russian federation, judge vasylenko himself has not publicly commented on these facts at the moment, there is a shortage of about 2.5 thousand judges in ukraine , and the selection of the servants of themis is impossible due to the lack of authority of the higher qualification commission of judges, which evaluates candidates for the position
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dmytro gudyma, a judge of the grand chamber of the supreme court, spoke on the air of our tv channel about several pressing issues of the judicial system because of the blocking processes of personnel selection and of the first and second instance to unblock the holding of competitions for the appointment of new judges, of whom ukraine needs approximately 2.5 thousand people , the processes of qualification evaluation of judges have been blocked for more than three years, because not all judges in ukraine have passed these qualification evaluations at the time of the end of the powers of the previous composition of the higher qualification commissions, only half of the judges passed the relevant evaluation . after a year of non- functioning, the supreme council of justice was re-authorized and began to perform its duties currently it has 15 members out of 21, however, it already has a quorum and therefore can make decisions, and the integrity of the composition of one of the most important
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bodies of judicial governance raises doubts, and that is why it is a new member of the high council of justice oleksandr sasevich, a judge of the lviv district administrative court , according to journalists in 2018, he participated in a meeting where candidates for the supreme council of justice from the congress of judges were agreed in advance. this obviously does not comply with the principles of selection for positions and undermines trust in independence, she said our journalists, an expert of the center and corruption of oleksandr sysevich, halyna chyzhik, also have questions about his role in these mafia judicial defenses. journalists ran with information . they recorded with their cameras how sosyevich , together with other judges, participated in one of these secret meetings in the premises of the higher administrative office . of the court
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where this issue was discussed, sisevich was the last to leave the meeting together with the judge of the infamous district administration to kyiv, bohdan sanin, and even got into the same car with him. all this was also noticed and incredible manipulation in the declaration of property, in particular, he most likely deliberately understated the price of his suzuki sx4 2012 car, indicating the value of only uah 149,900, while at that time such a car, even used, was more expensive. in 14th year, his wife bought another volkswagen passat 2013 car for she was either given a gift or she won the lottery and that's $35,000 for a minute. how lucky was the wife of the judge with such a profit already in 2020, the woman
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, together with the son of a newly elected member of the ukrainian communist party , bought an apartment in lviv for 92 m², and two parking space, how much did this purchase cost the family, the judge does not remember, for some reason, oleksandr satsevich does not indicate how much it cost . it seems very strange, well, relatively speaking, his wife and son are buying real estate now, not 20 years ago, 30 years ago, and he, uh, indicates that their value is unknown although she was definitely known to him, when the competition for the high council of justice was still ongoing, we visited oleksandr sasevich at work at the lviv district administrative court. he promised to answer all our questions and scheduled an interview tomorrow, if it is convenient for you, we will watch here tomorrow at 11:00, however. the next day oleksandr sasevich canceled the meeting and no longer
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answered the calls of our journalists. and this is the new member of the high council of justice, olga popikova . in 2020, she gave someone more than 5 and a half million hryvnias , which is 2.5 times more than all her savings . she manages to share her salary with her colleagues. assistant secretaries of such a secret, judge popikova is also distinguished by her forgetfulness for several years, she forgot to indicate in the declaration that she uses her father's apartment in kyiv, and in 2019
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she became the owner of 83 m² in the capital. she did not declare the value of the real estate according to the information of the de jure foundation as of july 2022 the cost of a similar apartment in the same building is from $179,000. evaluate these words without any detailed belt and maybe even documentary ones. i hope that we will still somehow come into contact with as a newly elected representative of the new newly formed vrp, and we receive such explanations that any doubts could be dispelled before moving to work in the northern commercial court of appeal. olga popikova worked as a judge in the supreme commercial court for 7 years , just at the time of the implementation of a large criminal scheme there to interfere with the automated system of distribution of cases during the period from 2011
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to 2013, investigators established more than 20,000 cases of interference, which made it possible for cases to fall to specific judges, and the state suffered many millions of losses due to these issues i personally did not know, because if i had known, i would have had to inform about it evidence that olga popikova participated in a criminal scheme , and there really is no, however, there are doubts that after working for seven years in the court, it is possible not to notice the implementation of such a large-scale criminal scheme, we called the new members of the vrp to to talk about her property and dishonesty in 2019 you bought an apartment of 83 square meters and did not indicate how much it costs until now you have introduced these practices it is interesting then i will give you
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an answer because this apartment is my father's and he gave it to me, and the apartment was his. in 2003, when the rains came to kyiv, and since my father worked in this apartment, we gave it to him, and he, as a close relative , it is tax-free according to the requirements of the law. in 2020, you gave someone five and a half million hryvnias, although when society bought an apartment in 2000 or when i was a special counsel at the supreme commercial court, what exactly was it given to me there and when did i sell this apartment there were also paper declarations of thousands of dollars and these funds. i gave my father a member of the supreme council of justice. yuliya bokova also became a lover of crimea. at first , she was a part of the russian occupation of the peninsula. her parents and daughters often
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visited the peninsula, and more than that. according to the information of the de jure foundation, bokova probably had connections with the deputy of many convocations, the co-founder of the party of regions and the gray cardinal of donbas , yukhym zvyagilskyi, a judge from 1997 to the 12th worked for years at the mine named after zasyadka, where zvyagilskyi was the manager for the last two years of bokov's work, she headed the legal department there, zvyagilskyi's wife even issued a power of attorney to bokova to represent her interests, and after she became a judge , bokova's father received a power of attorney from zvyagil twice, as i remember, she explained it's because she worked and worked
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as if she still had friendly relations with this family, such acquaintances, they can be factors of influence of the supreme council of justice, has a considerable fortune, the origin of which is difficult to explain with official incomes and that masterfully owns the skill of buying real estate and at a price several times lower than the market price. in 2009, the judge purchased two land plots of 14 acres in the boryspil district of kyiv region for a little more than $15,000, i.e. $1,085 per acre, the market price at that time acres of land in the area was four times higher in 2020. usyk's wife managed to buy a suzuki car for a total of
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uah 300,000, half the market value . more than 50 complaints were received by the high council of justice against judge hryhoriy usyk, and although the proceedings were not opened, it should be noted that this is a significant number even for an ordinary member of the vrp . not to mention the head or how crystal's reputation should not cause any doubts, the judicial reform is supposedly confidently proceeding according to the plan of the supreme council of justice, although it is far from ideal however, again, the authorized competition for the higher qualification commission continues . while this branch of the reform is moving forward, the other is cracking at the seams, the verkhovna rada registered draft law 82-96, which
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proposes to change the election procedure and dismissal of the presidents of the courts and their deputies, it is assumed that they will be elected by the assembly of judges for a term of four years, but will be approved personally by the chairman of the supreme court. and although the draft law has the noble aim of eradicating the long-term tenure of the servants of themis in the position of the chairman of the court, the implementation is doubtful , experts emphasize that these are changes which it is my deep conviction that they should have been introduced after the 14th year , because the president of the courts is exactly the link between , let's say, such illegitimate influence on judges because it was through the presidents of the court that requests were always passed there under the administration of the president back in the days of yanukovych and later, from other powerful offices, in addition to the project, the model of appointing the presidents of the court to positions contradicts the idea of judicial self-government, because it is assumed that the president of the court will no longer be elected the judges of this
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court will be appointed from outside in order to get rid of this soviet, uh, actually russian mentality or its consequences in snobbery. it involves the dilution of just those small, actually legal powers that are in the heads of judges, representative records can be made by the judge and the speaker of the corresponding court who are already in the courts, there is the problem of eternal presiding judges and the chair of the head of the court for more than two terms in a row, however, the judges have learned well to circumvent the strict rules, we have already done so more than once told you such stories, in particular , at the end of last year, the pechersk district court of kyiv was once again headed by ruslan kozlov for the fourth consecutive term, in order
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to stay in his usual chair as long as possible, the judge simply leaves resigns shortly before the end of his term of office, takes office again in a few months, since technically the term has not expired, each new election is only the second . in this way, you can continue your presidency indefinitely, the problem really needs an urgent solution, however, the new draft law will not help in this, unfortunately, for today , i have everything it was judicial control and i am tatyana shustrova if you want to report corrupt judges or illegal decisions , write to me on facebook or to this email
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