[000:00:00;00] others were rabbits, well, they even sold about some guns. we didn’t even dream, we were glad that the zhiguli and then already the guns and the fat and the patriots, the project that said it will also never deliver heavy tanks and bradleys, and most of all, there will be planes and long-range missiles. alas , for some reason, it happens that our allies and partners need it for a certain time, although we do not have it by and large, but just before our eyes , the rearmament of the ukrainian army is taking place according to nato standards, that is, in fact , the equipment is now being used. well, the latest equipment transfer with the fact that we had the newest equipment in the world and that is also good, but now there is information that the head of the office of the president of ukraine andriy yarmak and the commander of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhnyi had a telephone conversation with the adviser to the president of the united states america 's national security

affairs by jake sullivan and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff marco milli and they talked about the situation that is developing in the southern and eastern directions in ukraine, what should be said about mark milli just a few weeks ago valery zaluzhnyk met on the territory of poland, they also discussed i think that, in principle , the americans share the information they have on the situation with the russians and their capabilities, and it is obvious that it is about the fact that the united states of america will fully support and accompany those counter-offensive actions , including those that will be carried out by the armed forces of ukraine, they have all the possibilities for this. well, major, i understand that the armed forces of ukraine still have to rely on themselves

opportunities, including in this situation that is currently developing in ukraine, well, my friends, miley did not get the highest military position in the armed forces of the united states of america many times already, well, many analysts and experts say that these meetings disappeared gathered to ask more, they understand very well we use the data of the americans of british intelligence well, actually, of course they , that is, they understand very well, no worse than us, the situation that is happening on the battlefield directly in the war they know what the pace at which certain certain weapons can be supplied to our u.s. armed forces, that's why all offensive actions that we plan or other actions are related to our er-er armed forces, we are discussing with them, we are even able to agree on this, because we depending on the amount of weapons, well, in what sense we depend, or it is calculated, for example, on such a number of weapons, well, there are tanks, for example , do we not calculate, we calculate option one

, we do this, we do not calculate, we do it differently , that is exactly what i hope is discussed only the leadership of our country with the leadership of the armed forces of our allies and if it will be some kind of joint operations well, i am not saying that there is a mountain of difference between these people, but they can still give advice, taking into account the equipment that they are trying to provide. and they have already asked us several times. no to start uh, for now, the mood is because we expect an offensive from the russian federation, they are now trying to help us get this offensive and are asking us even if we are already ready, they are asking us too much, you understand, asking us to take our time with all the consequences because they want to provide us with more armed forces so that we can save more lives and that this offensive is more decisive, more powerful, and more effective, so it seems to me that such

cooperation between the leadership of nato with nato weapons well, although i don't want to make a joke there, why not die yet well, it seems that de facto we are already in nato, all that remains is to issue it where it is, thank you, thank you, mr. oleksii this was oleksii hetman, a veteran of the russian-ukrainian war a major of the armed forces of ukraine in the reserve, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, and also in our social networks are on the youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook, please like this video and subscribe to our page at on youtube and on facebook. well, on youtube, you can join the cohort of sponsors of the espresso tv channel. directly under this video, you can find a description of the instructions on how to do it there, here is enough. we will simply be grateful for

any help to our youtube channel. well, and of course, read our news on the espresso tv website, we work for you 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and there is quite a lot of information there, both about the news of the world and about the news of ukraine . well, we are moving on. and our next guest is oleksandr khara diplomat, expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies mr. oleksandr good day good health to you thank you for joining our broadcast good day mr. serhiy, it's nice to see you too, let 's start with information about a possible meeting between biden zelensky and duda a few days ago information appeared in the polish press that biden will visit poland and will have a joint meeting with zelenskyi and duda zelenskyi , he will discuss plans for holding an international conference in support of ukraine duda, while on

an official visit to latvia yesterday, confirmed that joe biden is visiting poland in february and will also emphasize that poland will continue to support ukraine. however , we will hear duda not at the expense of our own security. we must remember that we must also remember that we support ukraine, but we also care about the security of poland, at the moment we have about 50 f16 fighter jets . in the polish military, we are here ready to talk with our allies on the topic of supporting ukraine, but i say once again, we help ukraine, but we also care about the security of the commonwealth of nations as part of nato the most important thing is that we must remember that deterrence works when you are able to defend yourself when we have a high military potential here, mr. oleksandr , obviously we can add that the security of poland

cannot, cannot be without poland's security ukraine, well, such a short remark to the said president of poland. over the past few days, that is, the topic of how biden commented on the possibility of ukraine receiving f-16, er , a journalist came up and asked when he was moving and returning from a trip and asked him if ukraine would receive fighter jets in 16, he said very in short, no, and some conclusions have already been drawn from this that the united states of america is not ready to provide f16 fighters, although literally a week ago, jabeiden announced the transfer of the 31st abrams tank to ukraine, which has no to arrive at the end of the 23rd or the beginning of the 24th. how would you characterize what is happening between the united states of america and ukraine right now, starting with the visit and quite successful visit of zelensky to washington at the end of december, well, first of all, i want to mention

the american proverb not you this neva, that is, never say never, and uh, at one time, we were not given uh, javelins, then stingirs, then howitzers of these high-mars, uh, that means uh, and such another one, and i think that what the president of the united states briefly answered that he not planning giving us f16 does not mean that we did not receive them after a certain time. moreover, literally 1.5 weeks ago , there was information in the western press that the national security council of the united states is going to comprehensively study this issue and then communicate with its european allies and actually what the polish president said here should also be divided into two things , first of all definitely and clearly that he is responsible for the poles and the safety of the poles first of all but i think that there is also a second point

. he looked at how productive it was the discussion about tanks, uh, the germans were drawn to the last one, and already when the patience of the americans was broken, and they gave these abrams. it’s very good that they gave this abrams, but well, we don’t need them so much, and they definitely didn’t run away like the actual german tanks that can give us third countries, and i think that the style in which the polish president commented, the master, means that they will discuss it within the actual allies of the panat and, first of all, definitely. this will be the main role of the united states, taking into account that in 16 after all, they are produced from the united states and only they can give permission to third countries for supply well, and certain guarantees that they will be replaced, we can absolutely say that our relations with the united states are at an unprecedented level, this is a real strategic partnership, in the near future we will still get an aid package, and actually you and the previous expert

talked about these small bombs that we need, unfortunately, they only have a range of 150 km and they will definitely give us additional opportunities primarily throughout the territory of eastern ukraine, but unfortunately not so deep in let's say this in the territory of crimea. but in any case, this is another step that shows that there is an evolution of thinking, a reassessment of these so-called red lines that they actually drew in their heads first of all americans, europeans, and every time they cross them, they cross these red lines. they see that russia is not able to do anything in response, that is, only the semenians and nightingales are there .

that's exactly why it seems to me that this is the kind of meeting that can take place in poland. and by the way, there will be several interesting meetings. well, it is uninvited that there is a summit of ukraine and the eu. and the japanese have an idea to hold a group of seven in a meeting with ... the involvement of ukraine, but this is also important. let's say this is an important event , the eve of the anniversary of the large-scale author of the book, and it seems to me that these signals sent by our partners. unfortunately , they are not allies yet, because this is a formal formal sign of some kind of agreement the security of ukraine, but all these signals that you do not show that they believe in the victory of ukraine and that is why they are helping us and increasing the help , they are in a hurry because they understand that a large number of special tanks were announced at the time and, unfortunately, a certain number that we would need to have already in the near future, the europeans can only give us there at the end of spring, and actually

this can cause certain actions of russia tried to a-ah, well, let's say, attack us, tried to advance into our territory until we got all this er iron fist and we will not be able to liberate the ukrainian territory more effectively with less losses for our defense forces, therefore the political signals are positive, and the signals in the form of weapons that are provided to us both before and after rammstein are positive, very interesting , there was an interesting visit by our minister of defense, where he agreed in paris about, let's say, the acquisition of two radar stations that will strengthen our air defense capabilities, and about, of course, that this is not the last thing that they give us , let's say about what - i agree with our western partners, therefore, in general, it is positive

of course, i would like more, i would like this help and these red lines to be submitted earlier than actually we will say yes, so here they would give us the opportunity to quickly liberate our territories, that is, here it is a question of time, a question of resources, and most importantly, the question of the lives of ukrainian soldiers this week, there was another event: the premiere of the film putin against the west, which was filmed by the bbc, and where boris johnson's revelations to the former prime minister of great britain were heard, who said that on the eve of the great russian invasion of putin of ukraine told him that i don't want to hurt you, boris, but one piece of gunpowder or one minute of rocket flight can, in principle, solve this issue. in the same film, there is also the testimony of the minister of defense of great britain, ben wallace, who

said that the russians, led by sergei shoigu, took him there and convinced them that they would not attack ukraine, and it was literally 13 days, well, two weeks before the big invasion on february 11, obenvoli flew to moscow and said that his eyes were these revelations that we heard and which were located all over the world, they give the entire western world a complete idea of ​​who putin is, or who still has illusions that, well, it is possible that boresh johnson did not hear something and, uh, putin is just looking after his interests well, i don't think that, uh, boris johnson is not amazing , uh, he's definitely a smart person. i think that uh, there were various hints in a different form, and we clearly understand that russia, being a weak military

state, is always relied on nuclear weapons, well, in fact, always. i mean in modern history, first of all, after the nato campaign against yugoslavia, and then well, if we say so a little to the side , putin was the secretary of the national security council of the russian federation, and then they realized that they could be next and began to actually prepare - in order to restrain the event , although we know that the institution had absolutely no goals to seize russia or fight with it, so putin began dismantling those , let's say, principles on which it was based nuclear deterrence and the nuclear strategy of the soviet union and the russian federation at the same time and we have reached the point where these cartoons with strikes on er florida and these analog netov missiles er and constant rhetoric , it stopped literally maybe a month ago to be

more precise it has quieted down because it will certainly gain momentum again after a certain time because it is the only real weapon that putin has and we see that it unfortunately works for certain politicians in europe, primarily germany, but also if you listen to what he said recently donald trump and all his mosquitoes i am in the form of the same click and other people who are constantly on the air saying that we do not want the third world war and therefore we should stop helping ukraine and sit down at the negotiating table, assuming that it is let's say it's a ruse to actually leave ukraine to its own devices with such monsters. but the most important thing is that it's the same thing if you can't achieve your goals peacefully , i.e. through diplomacy or under a bunch of a-a-a . of course, you have the armed forces, but

he couldn't do it with the armed forces either nothing to achieve i in fact, he only has the option of scaring the west with nuclear weapons , which means that politicians and journalists in the west are not very educated. right away, putin will press a button and launch a dozen strategic ballistic missiles on the territory of the united states, this is definitely not the case. certain steps of escalation and let's say so, the military and diplomats get out of it, and it's not so simple that you didn't like something for this red button because it's very good that mr. johnson told him about it. by the way, a very good visit. it's happening again, he got into a bit of a fight with these trumpists. but

it seems to me that some of the normal conservatives and normal republicans understood what he was talking about and who were the scumbags in these squabbles. that's why by and large we are talking about the understanding of the free world, the leaders of the free world, and they have such an understanding, unfortunately, there is no such understanding of the developing ukrainians. that not everything is so clear-cut that in fact the west and ukraine provoked the russian federation. well , once again, let's settle for some conventions in the negotiations, that is, in the world. unfortunately, where else are there countries that see this conflict through the eyes of the kremlin, and this is not because they are paid money , but rather, we use very often vladimir lych lenin's phrase about

useful idiots that they are just theirs - i will say that their vision coincides with the kremlin's they don't promote it for free, oleksandr, there will be another important one - this is the annual ukraine eu summit, and for the first time our state will appear as a candidate for joining the european union, today the leaders of the european union are already coming to the ukrainian capital to talk about expectations and possible results let's see this for ourselves in our plot, despite the active military operations in the east and south, kyiv will still hold the 24th ukraine eu summit , the european commissioners can take part in it, that is, the ministers of the main executive body of the european union, according to the results, they plan to sign a final document in which they can provide a certain impetus for ukraine's further movement towards accession, we are waiting for news for ukraine, we are waiting for the decisions

of our partners in the european union, which will correspond to the achieved level of interaction between our institutions and the eu and our progress progress, which is evident even despite the full-scale war, the development of the state, the main topic of the summit, the government presents the results of the implementation of the seven recommendations of the european commission in the field of the rule of law , the fight against corruption, the independence of the media, etc. war ukraine continues to move towards the eu you have demonstrated very good progress in the work on implementing the recommendations of the european commission during the summit will an opportunity to analyze this progress and also to discuss what can still be done in the near future ukraine made an active push in the movement towards membership for you

as a candidate state it is necessary not only to adopt the relevant eu legislation, but also to implement it. on the agenda will be the issues of integration themselves of the economy to the euro area, it is important for ukraine to provide long-term access for goods to the eu markets without quotas and the mfa joining the single payments area and the european roaming space among the political topics will touch new sanctions against russia, the security situation, the peace formula, bringing the russian federation to justice and post-war reconstruction , at the same time, homework to become a full member of the eu in ukraine . and that it will not fall on us, but simply taking into account the circumstances in which ukraine is today, already this year, the ukrainian authorities expect to start

negotiations on accession, which contain 35 chapters on reforms in various spheres of social life, from energy to science, this will probably happen no earlier than october , after the official assessment by the european commission of the implementation of recommendations , a realistic assessment of the acquisition of full membership by the end of the current decade valeriya pashko andriy verstyuk tv channel espresso, our journalist says that the likely acquisition of membership by ukraine in the european union it may be until the end of the decade. is oleksandr an optimist or a pessimist? in these forecasts, one always wants to be optimistic, but moderate, of course, that everything will depend on when we get a victory over our enemy, of course, that without this, there is some question of ukraine joining the eu

, they are simply not realistic. another question is that now this war has definitely lined up europeans, and it seems to me especially of the germans, who actually dragged our wild neighbors to europe and increased their influence there, and now they feel this right, most likely they will try, well, as atonement, this means that we have an accelerated integration, yes but this does not mean that they will turn a blind eye to any shortcomings or any problems or what we have to do, they will , let's say, be lenient in some way, that is, i think that it will just be a priority, they will help in a friendly way. well, i'm not talking about financial and other support well, actually, if we end this war this year, god willing, first of all with victories in ukraine, but also with destructive actions on

russian territories, then of course what can be said about the fact that it will be more than 10 years, and i hope that such a scenario it will also be at least definitely more important for me that ukraine joins nato, because without security there cannot be other such things and integration into the eu and the normal life of the reconstruction of our economy. dismissal , corruptors , bribers, well, that is, very, very much so in a tense situation.

of the european union to the candidates for membership in the eu, including overcoming corruption or creating safeguards, because what we are seeing now is, in principle, a struggle with the consequences , but not a struggle with the fundamental things that affect the level of corruption and bribery in ukraine. ukraine can overcome this path because we know that the current president zelenskyi came to power with the promise to overcome corruption and imprison everyone in the spring of 2019, but this did not happen four fourth spring and five there is the fourth one and it is not clear when it will all happen . well, you know . i think that both the next and the next president of ukraine will be criticized for the lack of measures to fight corruption , of course.

and the most important thing. it seems to me something different literally. last week, i was very good. well, such an event is the rit-college 2:0, where mostly journalists gathered, but there were also representatives of civil society, and i really liked how mr. nicolo flore told his hesitance whether to publicize the corruption scandal, uh, connected with the ministry of defense. and actually, as a patriot, he understood that it could have an impact, first of all. it was the eve of rammstein, and he knew that it was necessary. if something should be publicized, then later and before the first of february , because on february 1, the money would already be would have been spent and he made absolutely i think it was the right decision and did not harm the national strategic interests of ukraine, but on the other hand, his main motivation was that this money that could potentially be stolen, i will not

to claim that yes it is, but they could go for something that kills enemies and protects our soldiers, and i think this is the most important thing, in fact, because any government tries to somehow hide something, well, not even me, in the sense that something there is to deal with corruption, but not to allow the society to get involved in some matters there, and it is certain that only the society can demand that certain changes take place . highlight the following it seems to me that this even turned out to be something positive for ukraine, because the western partners looked at what you see. this week, regarding

these searches of other things, let's see if any charges will be brought, and most importantly, if the facts have been collected, if they will be convincing, but we also have judges before the courts problems, we have to complete the program, give us time for our program until the end. this is oleksandr khara, he was a diplomat, an expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies. this was a program. the verdict was conducted by serhii rudenko. themselves and their relatives

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