[000:00:00;00] but no one will say this publicly, moreover, i note that they told putin that our problem is not our problem with this war , that there is no such thing as putin's problem, but there is such an opinion that putin is dreaming and everything that is completed will not be completed, this is the ideology in general and that they are present in moscow the destruction of the ukrainian state, it is inherent, it has already become a religion, it is inherent not only to their apostle or the newest putin, it is inherent to all political ice, regardless of its surname , that is, the ukrainian state should not exist or do we think that they are interested in bakhmut and others but they are not interested in him or kramatorsk. well, for the workers of kramatorsk, they don't even know him. they are interested in kyiv, and the solution for them to the issue of the ukrainian state in general is kyiv, so accordingly, the next measles is a matter of time when it will happen. and

we are preparing for it. they say that they don't have enough strength, listen. we saw in february a year ago that they didn't have enough strength to take kyiv, and that's how it happened, it prevented them from advancing on kyiv. no, they live in their worldview, do we know exactly what they gathered the army and how it was staffed well, hardly, because we do not have this information for sure and how many are going. therefore, we need to prepare together for the largest influx that can be and most likely it will happen. it is better to beat back mine and the fact that we are victorious is definitely we will win this issue only time but victory we must define together with you mr. mykhailo you ms. oksano with all the deputies we we must in the session hall define what victory is for ukraine to our diplomats, the same kuleba is wondering when he will go to berlin and

to whom they will talk about what let's make a victory, he should have said no . and i have a directive of the decision of the verkhovna rada of negotiations, it is reparations for the return to the 91st year of the borders of the destruction of the russian empire , the collapse of the return of prisoners of war collaborators etc., but under these conditions, i cannot go below, so i’m sorry , there will be no such negotiations, they will understand and this is our task , which we must solve in the session hall . oksana savchuk, you have a word. look, i'm going to tell you, for sure, the theses that we face today, every adequate person who understands that we live in a war, and in a war, of course, there is a lot, there is a lot of everything. i would say such a difficult thing if we are talking about the past year and what happened to us was a big year when we really

got for ourselves even more than we expected from ourselves, that's when we saw the first victories of ordinary guys who went to the front, especially in the first two months, volunteers and we we are still conducting compliance with the legislative framework to give them the opportunity to obtain the status of military personnel, which they cannot receive because they were not in the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine, but they left , they simply got up from home, they were ready for it, they left. that is, this is what we have to complete under the president must sign a bill that will finally fix the gap in the legislation that we owe them today as a state, and then what i spoke with peter kuzyk yesterday. and he as well as his battalion and other armed forces of ukraine are near bakhmut today or

there are a lot of them all there. he tells me that it seems to me that we should tell more people about the fact that even if we walk , it means uh in old clothes. even if we we will be cold even if we don't have special features to drive there, it's only because we have to give more money to each citizen for the armed forces of ukraine . we shouldn't think that there will be tanks tomorrow , but tomorrow there may be thermal imagers , quadcopters, and other things, that is why what this is really not enough, it is such an expensive and consumable material and today it is much more difficult for all of us to collect a lot of necessary things, we announce these fees ourselves and it is absolutely not shameful, it is absolutely normal when you go and ask for some funds when you buy when you think now how to carry it out from abroad, but it means that this is what i would not like us to do in this new year

, which is somehow emotionally difficult for all of us to talk about only about offensives. i want us to adjust ukrainian society more, everyone in their place about how we will keep the defense. i want us to add that, you know, the thirst that we had a year ago . it seems to me that we now lack it very much. of course , it affected the large number of guys we honored and buried. families but what else can we all do in parallel that we haven't done in a year? well, finally, we really returned to the topic of what can we, god willing, if not in february, then in march, er, we should clean our er state from er muscovites in the form of pops it will really be very

an important decision, the second decision is a real way to let the military know that from february 1 their wages will not be reduced and it will not be calculated differently because everyone is already writing about it from february 1 the salary of the military will be reduced and no one says no, it won't be like that, and the third thing is that we have to say our educational programs, first of all, we don't take any stories from the zno because it's a shame and a slap in the face to ourselves today when we took away children it is necessary to take an exam in the history of war not for one year maybe someone well, we would like it so much that we could skaral him there for ourselves, we still need to resign immediately for taking away history, that is, who are we, whom do we have to teach in the future but only this history is correct and true will teach our children the second question - it is up to us there are still a large number of power cities that today really do not provide basic education for our children, and these are also

strategic things for me, because we all have children and today we understand how important it is. that is, we have different fronts, we must learn to talk not only about that fund the front and mobilization is what the boys said and they said a lot about it, we have to understand that we have another front, a spiritual one and a national patriotic one, and today when we talk about national-patriotic education programs at school , you think it will be so easy to do you think we have a lot of people who, by the way, could really do it, they are all already at the front and this will be a new generation of those girls, maybe they will go and really do it correctly and normally, that's why i want us as a state as a state program and what to us they say in marathon, because you can't just stroke

people's hair and tell them that everything is fine, because then it turns out that a net was woven for the military, which was woven in two hours. only the armed forces of ukraine are fighting, everyone is fighting today on their own front, and if we do everything ourselves, then the teacher is fighting, he won’t tell that he just doesn’t have internet light and bye-bye, he’s fighting , so the official who is trying to do something apart from his main job is nothing he won't have a guy who is on the front lines today, he doesn't tell me if he is today he has to go, i'm sorry, to do one thing to shoot or tomorrow he has to wear two outfits because someone might get sick, but he doesn't complain about it. i want us to add each one this year nasnagy and internal thirst for struggle because only with a single national struggle will we be able to hold on, and everything else will come to us as we go, velichkovich i think that 2023 should be the year when the whole

nation will continue to be as grouped as it is it started from the first day in the same regular invasion, and in fact, the victory will be for the armed forces, the victory will be for the whole nation over this eternal our northern neighbors who have been destroying our country for centuries, traveling our land, and it is somewhere that direction must be. well, somewhere the direction of society's awareness that each in his place he fights a soldier at the front fights with a machine gun he shoots them directly a businessman who works honestly pays taxes it is the funds that then go to purchase the same from weapons the salaries of the boys who serve he also serves in his own way and that's how everyone should understand that it depends on him and that even the collectors said

that for some offenses they are sent to the front, this is a discredit to this war because the war was not asked, is this a sacred war or us we will not be there and that's why this is how politics in society should be in relation to the perception of what is happening and when there is peace in the labor cities it is thanks to the guys who are fighting and therefore those who are in the rear should be the ones who help the front but on if we speak, but this is an internal internal component and what the excerpt itself and what i say to miroslava and some of my colleagues who spoke, everyone says yes, these are all the components of this great holy war against our eternal enemy, but we see the support of the international the support of ukraine is primarily because they believed in ukraine , they believed in the ukrainian armed forces that they

would choose and not run away, they believed in our ability, they believed in our ability because we understood for ourselves that we can do it and thirdly , they began to realize how it could threaten them if ukraine falls borders in 1991, because if we are talking strategically, as long as you have such a neighbor as the russian federation with its policy, how and when it conducts in the whole world, the repetition of aggression

against ukraine will happen again through for some time, if it remains in the same format as i am now, it should not only get rid of nuclear weapons, it should not only be debilitated. i believe that it is necessary to continue the policy that the anti-bolshevik bloc of peoples continued in the 40s . the will of the people is the will of the person and in this case we are talking about the fact that those peoples who have their associations in quasi in the form of quasi-republics should have their full-fledged sounding and those republics what are the national discussions in russia they should have their full-fledged state design and in this way this evil empire the russian federation must disintegrate let them return to their historical border of the 16th century the moscow principality is as small as one of

our regions is historical because we understand it because we also understand that it can only happen from the inside and outside we will be able to receive reparations from them and so on, we will only be able to do so only when this happens and not otherwise, one more thing. i understand that this will be the deprivation of russia's nuclear weapons oh, it's not easy, but it will be possible only then when will the internal disintegration of the russian federation take place here? i agree with my colleagues, uh, nuclear denuclearization of the russian empire is possible only in one way, because this is an example of the year 91, 90, the beginning of the 90s of the soviet empire, a very correct example , then the independent state of ukraine

, kazakhstan and belarus, for whom it was not appropriate to keep nuclear weapons, was unprofitable and impractical, and they actually exchanged these nuclear weapons for the recognition of our sovereignty and for the opportunity to become part of the international community, and now imagine if the russian empire disintegrates, and then, by the way, it was a mistake to give this monopoly nuclear weapon to moscow, which now has the opportunity to blackmail and will continue to do so, and now imagine if the russian empire disintegrates . pebbles so why does tatarstan have nuclear weapons to fight for free we can’t even keep them and they follow the same path how are ukraine going, that is, the exchange of nuclear weapons for the recognition of sovereignty, security guarantees, an opportunity

international trade, diplomacy, etc., and this is really the way, because it is an example of ukraine. if they want to recognize their sovereignty and help the world to recognize their sovereignty and help become a normal independent state, this is only one way, of course . there will be additional tools , that is, they must, we must and the world must recognize sovereignty not only in the destruction took part in the war against ukraine and in the exchange of prisoners of war and our collaborators who worked for russia a lot, but where will they go, just as kravchuk will go shashkevich nazareyev and our task together with the world to explain to the world and together with them to search in tatarstan in kalmykia throughout the russian empire for new nazarbayevs and new kravchuks for their kravchuks we are looking for already looking for betenko pavlyuk by the way of the president of tatarstan, this is the last president of the russian federation with such a status yes the status of the president

liquidated relative to prohibited among for e-e subjects of the federation they appear 89 well, they still have crimea now attributed to themselves here 90 it is subjects of the russian federation of the tatarsan president the last of the mohicans, that is, the kremlin is exterminating the last, so to speak, these shoots , what you call separatism or nationalism , we call it so that no national numbers of cells are defined in this, so that no national cells raise their heads, as the former union republics of ukraine and others did i can discuss the other 14 with mr. oleg, who mentioned three wars: korean in 50-53, vietnam in 59, 75, 70, well, in 64, 75, ok, and the afghan war in 79, 89 th year, these are three different wars, if you understood which wars

took place in the conditions of the cold war, then after the second world war i would compare these three wars with the so-called chess games, where the americans and the soviet union played here and there , the korean war, which they try to paint as a situation in ukraine, because putin's goal is obvious to me, that's all ukraine, but when this goal he choked on this goal, it became a goal for him. he couldn't swallow , he went for the second option, he needs negotiations, he needs 38 parallel well, what are 38 parallels? everyone understands. that is, she is the parallel is conditional. it is applied according to the results in korea as a line of demarcation. it is incorrect. 38 there, the line of demarcation in this situation ended as a result of hostilities, but it roughly corresponds to the 38 parallel. therefore, the russians, including us, would have what is called a demarcation based on the results of the istanbul negotiations, which, thank god failed thanks to the fact that they did not complete it, this is a certain result in the month of april because bucha emerged as a result of the tragedy of the atrocity of the russians in

bucha, and we and our revolutionary group, thanking the president of ukraine, stopped any the russians are inverted processes. so, if we accept the russians with the american chess terminology, korea is a draw despite the fact that un troops were deployed there, which stopped the demarcation line , a nuclear state. the united states could not win. no, it was an international draw, ask me to finish. well, i did not interrupt you, we take them vietna vietnam is clearly america's loss of the program, but it is the only one of the three wars that you mentioned where the united states of america directly introduced, invited the armed forces of ukraine, its armed forces and lost, i.e. vietnam became communist as a result of this war and the afghan war is the only one of the three wars where the soviet union lost with the results of the year 89 decided the troops and so to speak achieved the victory of the united states of the united states of america i believe that we

are now in a stage the second cold war, when we have a situation of confrontation again, where the soviet union led troops on the territory of the allied state, the situation is close to me, let's say a repetition of what bush did with the war in the desert in 90-91, it is obvious to satan hussain that it is necessary to give a hard axis and it is necessary to knock out the enemy, and putin is trying to impose a line of demarcation on us, he needs anything to negotiate in order not to lose this war, because any delay does not solve the strategic military problem, it is being depleted economically, the military potential is being depleted and in the end he is not eternal biologically not eternal this president he will lose sooner or later and when he loses or dies it says well, as they say who do i know history you know thousands of cases when subjectivism in history stops one way or another the war in any country, we can name dozens of examples, so i believe that we now

have to beware of these negotiations that they wanted to impose on ukraine as a state, starting from istanbul and ending today , because the negotiations today on on the side of the e-e will be on the side of russia, which wants a respite , which wants to re-equip its military unit, which wants additional mobilization , collection of additional visas in order to swallow ukraine as a whole, and not limit yourself to some conditional 38th parallel dear friends, i would like you all to pay attention to what ukraine was like at the beginning of the large-scale invasion, how we were treated in the world, did anyone believe that he abstains for three days, he does not get that week , well, there were different ones. germany's panel immediately after you, no, you will finish the opinion, but the armed forces of ukraine , in particular, and the leadership

of the state. the whole world knows ukraine, it's true, and what ms. oksana said, i support history unequivocally. we must teach history, it is unequivocally impossible for our children not to know history. in order for the world not to know our history, we need to promote our history further in the world and the next step is today and the ministry of foreign affairs affairs of ukraine and the leadership of the state must pay attention to see how negative russia is spread all over the world, they are beating our ukrainians, tell me whether they have or not in austria and calling fascists nazis and this their propaganda has gone, we are not doing anything publicly today. i am speaking once again, the president of ukraine, the verkhovna rada and many of our leaders of our state have raised us to a high level. everyone knows about us. the whole world knows what ukraine is, there are ukrainians, but this is a nuance . we do not work. our propaganda does not works in the world, this is true. we must appear everywhere on the tv screens, let's tell those countries

of the european world, explain that we are not fascists, and they are fascists and banders. to work in this direction because understand it is good that today we have an anti-putin coalition or it is not there yet, but our friends, we are our partners who support us, this is still no , this is not enough. believe that not all of us 100% support the leaders of those countries. but the common people of society do not all treat us positively, there are different things even of neighboring nations and states, and for this to be normal, we must work on that front, i understand that today the war may not be for that, but it is one of the components of our victory tomorrow's victory i hope that after all it is a state one i will pay attention to and our diplomats in particular or our groups that travel around the world will pay attention to it and carry out such explanatory work

and the next step i will say one more thing today we must not understand what do the american and european experts say, they don't know ukrainian rains, what they say , they are so, they are experts in their field , they model the situation like how it would be in their country, they don't understand how it is in our country they are already doing it and we see it and they understand something, that's why we will have weapons, weapons will be enough, it will all be a big game and what they are saying today that they will not give us these planes well, today, so everyone heard that they will not give us a very short period they will give it enough tanks, we already have and there will be more everything and there will be more and there will be no other weapons everything can be said in public what is agreed upon in a commercial way let's say yes yes there is a lot of work to be done we have a lot of work andriy melnyk i am with us on skype diplomat deputy minister of foreign affairs

ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to germany on the 14th of 2022, we congratulate you. glory to ukraine, andriy, and i would still like to return to today's quote by putin, where he spoke, and he said that those who involve european countries, including germany is entering a new war with russia, they obviously do not understand that the modern war with russia will be completely different for them. we did not send our tanks to their borders. but we have something to answer with the use of armored vehicles . calls please tell mr. andriy how, in principle , europe and germany will react to these threats by putin . these words of his mean something to them. well, thank you once again for the invitation, ms. natalya, actually . what we heard from putin today is nothing new. he doesn't know the german matrix very well. he understands it brilliantly as

a former kgbist who worked in dresden for many years. how can you intimidate the germans and unfortunately they succeeded for many years managed and restrained the policy of the official berlin, in relation to ukraine, to give us weapons even before the war, because we tried to break through this wall, even before russia carried out a full-scale aggression on february 24. therefore, it can be simply ignored, and i think the germans, of course, they cannot do it completely , but all the same the state leadership has at least this fear, i want to believe it, at least it is gradually disappearing in relation to ordinary germans, well, not only the germans, damn europeans in general , of course here, it is still too early to say what

they are, what are they these words uh can uh take it more calmly and do not take them at face value, because this war we do not forget very often, it is primarily an informational war , and informational means that these methods are more effective than any guns, artillery, readers, etc. unfortunately for us, he is dealing with this . but we need to calmly do our thing. we managed to break through germany. thank god, unfortunately it lasted longer than we expected, but now the ice has broken, now there is a solution for us in principle. it is necessary to increase the number of heavy weapons and tanks and bmp-marder and continue to attack politicians and

the navy, because mr. kovalyuk said correctly that i uh, you know what they are saying today, no , it is not means that it won't happen tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, that's my experience is very modest in germany. so when not even a year has passed for anything from helmets to bulletproof vests, we were told that it's impossible because , uh, because the russians will take it as a provocation and putin will resort to some reckless steps er, the third world war, a nuclear attack. that is, all horror stories were and remain the same, that is, re pertuary. therefore, we have to do our part to further convince our partners in berlin in other capitals of the need for these weapons, to explain why we want it, not because we i suddenly wanted to, but we decided to get a tornado from germany or an f16 from the united states. this is a necessity . without it, we will not win this war. so , in fact, we need to calmly react to all this. and

tell me, please. why not use it? including these intimidations of putin in today's pile by the way, lavrov's interview with the head of the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation, where he threatened moldova, so that this is already a continuation of what pavlyuk said in front of you , including the society of all countries and in those countries that border with us and er in those societies where questions may arise why do politicians help another state or explain clearly to the whole of europe using specific examples of these threats and putin and lavrov that no one is ukraine in the russian federation i was not going to limit myself because it seems to me that this would be an important message for ordinary europeans who do not have a deep understanding of politics and simply have the same russian propaganda or agents of influence who have remained with the russian federation in many european countries are trying

to hammer this into their heads, why should you help ukraine thank god, this process of awareness is already underway, that not only ukraine is the target of aggression, but also other neighboring states, they can also become the next target for putin for russia eh but you understand, well, in the same germany, they still have this feeling that, er , well, americans say in the 40s, just like the geos, that is, that germany is still their main interests . well, it is natural, it is such an elastic elastic feature that we we want to, that is, yes, we will help there because of force there under pressure, but under no circumstances do we want to become a party to this conflict ourselves, and this counsel,

unfortunately, is very much like that. after all, many influential politicians and leaders in germany were gone that is, under no circumstances become a party, do not provoke, do not allow blows to be struck, although well, in principle, we understand all this , this is a game, this information war, and we have already passed all these lessons for them, unfortunately, there are still certain red lines which they drew for themselves and which they themselves are afraid to cross, they believe that now we were just two weeks ago, the tanks were such a red line today we crossed it today, the germans explain that in fact it was so and everything was planned that i had been preparing this for so long decision, we know that it is not so, we know that it is only thanks to our pressure, thanks to the support of our partners, thanks to the same poles , the british, who went ahead and who , together with the americans, in the end forced

germany to this step, so this should be taken calmly of course that