[000:00:00;00] 18 people came to us yesterday, the entire eighth section - two are seriously wounded, one is already in dnipro, they will receive help there , another one is currently undergoing surgery, two more patients are in the trauma department, the others are light, they have received all

the necessary help, and so on will be treated on an outpatient basis, this is the center of the city, this is what the civilian population is exclusively experiencing here, so any attempts to justify themselves here are at least worthless, the state investigation bureau announced the exposure and detention of five businessmen who allegedly embezzled allocated for the food of servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine, the dbr published photos from the searches, according to the investigation, the detained businessmen , among other things, sold eggs to the military at uah 17 per piece

. - it is very strange because the ministry of defense, i will remind you, claims that it did not buy eggs for uah 17, the company llc aktiv, which appears in the scandalous investigation regarding the purchase of food for the ministry of defense, claimed that it did not sell eggs for uah 17, and it is not known whether are the businessmen arrested today related to this company? are they some other businessmen who sold eggs for uah 17 for the ministry of defense? in other words, the story with eggs does not end. meanwhile , the ukrainian pravda publication, citing its sources, writes that the court arrested the ex-deputy minister of defense vyacheslav shapovalov for two months with the possibility of making a bail of more than 400 million, according to the investigation, shapovalo lobbied for the conclusion of contracts for the supply of products for the military at inflated prices, as well as the purchase of body armor, helmets, clothing and other items for the needs of the armed forces of ukraine of low quality for a total amount of more than uah 1 billion, well, this is exactly the deputy minister who, immediately after the scandal with the procurement of products for

military personnel, wrote a statement of resignation. well , olena shcherban, deputy executive officer , joins our broadcast director of the anti-corruption center elena my greetings good evening with eggs is not closed and is not closed. since you think there is little place for corruption in the procurement of eggs, ammunition, clothes for military personnel, but in fact, there are a lot of questions, and from the information that was made public, including by journalists , it is precisely the question of corruption, uh, there are all signs that we are talking about corruption, yes, but uh, and this investigation of today's implementation of the state bureau of investigation, on the one hand , once again confirms that it was corruption that took place, but by and large it raises

more questions than answers why because first of all, it is not clear whether we are talking about persons who were actually detained today. why are you talking about those contracts that were made public by journalists? there is no answer to this question , but one very simple conclusion arises because the minister of defense oleksiy reznikova said that the published contract revealed technical i will remind you of the errors. and they are actually being corrected at the moment by the implementation of the dbr . well, that is, there are two cases, either it is the contract that was made public by journalists, which contained technical errors, or it is some other contract. yes even if it is the same contract, it means that the minister of defense lied about technical errors, because the dbr writes that such eggs were supplied and consumed at these prices , and in the other case, if it is some

other contract, then he actually testifies to that that such a contract was not the only problem with such prices, and this well, we can only say that the issue of corruption is much larger in this story. the national anti-corruption bureau even when this scandal broke out, but today's implementation was carried out by the state bureau of investigation , this is very alarming because it looks like similar cases like the ones on body armor, uh, it's about the purchase of body armor, where the deputy minister of defense was also detained, and these cases are not actually under investigation to the state bureau of investigation , and such a quick instant implementation of them can only indicate a desire to actually obtain evidence, take matters to themselves, and actually

prevent the national anti-corruption bureau to the evidence to these materials this used to often happen and here is such a scheme when other law enforcement agencies together forget to initiate parallel cases of clones, this is exactly the scheme of how to merge cases, we have already repeatedly tracked such facts when a parallel law enforcement agency initiates a case based on the same facts well and then somewhere in that case, the evidence disappears and the responsible persons are not held accountable, that's why we are very worried olena. i'll just explain for people who, like you, don't study corruption every day, that is, according to the idea, if i'm correct i understood that the case should have been taken up by the national anti-corruption bureau to simply find out exactly what the case is being investigated but what is happening either by anticipating the circumstances or by opening a similar

case how did you say clone eh in- in the game comes into play comes into play dbr eh regarding independence what doubts do we have, we have mediated there evidence and reasons to believe that for the time being politically independent in relation to the dbr, we do not have such a conviction and you are alarmed by the fact that it is actually possible that a dependent body takes for this case, i understood you correctly. this is exactly how when a dependent body takes on the same case, that is, in those cases that we tracked earlier, it was done with the purpose of actually protecting people from responsibility and not bringing them to justice , because such cases are parallel, they never ended with a result there were problems with the recognition of the evidence as admissible in the courts, because there is such a practice that if the wrong body actually investigates the case, then the courts do not recognize

this evidence, so, in the end, she only won the suspects and accusations and did not hold, i understood you well, then there is another announcement today in the procurement case, here is the court, this is reported by ukrainian pravda, the court arrested shapovalov as deputy minister. this is the same person who wrote the resignation letter on the second day against the background of this e-procurement scandal e do you have any questions about this verdict, because there he can be released on bail of many millions, and for now he is in the pre-trial detention center, and this is not the only case. i see that bohdan khmelnytskyi, who was also responsible for procurement, who was dismissed from the ministry of defense against the background of the egg scandal, and he was also arrested by the shevchenkiv court of the district court of kyiv, this is reported by the press service of the office of the prosecutor general, so perhaps the ice has been broken, as they say. well, in fact, here is a story with exactly the same which i conducted before this, yes, the fact is that completely different bodies investigated and implemented these cases than they should by

law, and we are alarmed by the fact that journalists are usually invited in such high-profile cases , the public, and the likeness of court hearings here, we were all only informed after the fact when similar stories are heard, for example, at the highest anti-corruption court, it happens, well, it is completely public, and somewhere, some parts can close the meeting, but everyone understands what is happening, what are the arguments, what are the evidences of the prosecution and the defense. so, in this case, this did not happen therefore, in principle, it is still very difficult to draw conclusions and understand what in general is happening in these stories, one can only hope that they will not end because of this legal the impurity of these cases is simply nothing. by the way, these are really corruption cases, they should have been heard by the higher anti-corruption court and not in some shevchenko court in kyiv, or in some other, regardless of whether by

law, even if the case was not transferred to the acquired preventive measures also had to be heard in the higher anti-corruption court because well, this story is actually alarming. in this case, i still want more transparency and clarity, thank you very much olena shcherban, deputy executive director of the anti-corruption center, we talked about the infamous eggs for the ministry of defense, in particular , thank you, the eu-ukraine summit will be held in kyiv tomorrow, there is hope that brussels will comment for the first time at a high level on whether ukraine has come close to joining to the european union in the last seven months, and it is possible that kyiv may not like some of the assessments, nevertheless, this is the first ukraine-eu summit with such a large representation of the european commission.

by president ursula von der leyen, as many as 15 euros of commissioners came to kyiv, despite the fact that a large, full -scale war is going on in ukraine, for tom themselves , my colleague, the correspondent of radio svoboda, iryna sysak, is monitoring the preparations for it. she joined our broadcast. wait so kindly , the visit is taking place in an extremely secret manner. neither the locations nor the program of the meeting are known in advance. the journalists of radio svoboda saw the recommendations to the european commissioners before the trip to ukraine, and they said, in particular, that they should not take from with large suitcases, but only light backpacks or to be more mobile in case of emergency or unforeseen situations, as well as euros . yesterday, today the european commissioners met with the ukrainian government

. president volodymyr zelenskyi was also present at this meeting . generally speaking, this summit is just an opportunity to analyze at what stage fulfillment of tasks on the way to joining the european union today is ukraine, which has been a candidate for membership in the european union for more than seven months, as the president of the european commission spoke about today's visit, let's listen further today here not only to discuss further support but also the next steps to bring ukraine even closer to the european union, the fact that we are meeting today here in kyiv is a powerful signal of the great progress you have made and of our mutual obligations. a year ago, no one could have imagined how quickly ukraine may move to the european union, but today you are already a candidate for joining the eu and i know that millions of ukrainians are working hard for this goal. europe will contribute to ukraine's approach to accession until the day when the ukrainian flag is raised where it

should be in front of the building. europe will contribute to ukraine's approach before the introduction to the day when the ukrainian flag will be raised where it should be in front of the berlamont building in brussels, and this is the building where the european commission is located. and in front of it are the flags of all full members of the european union, and with this statement jursola von derlian once again confirmed that such a person will become a member of the european union, the main question and the main intrigue when no one names specific dates or terms, although a few days before the summit, the prime minister of ukraine denismagal declared that they have such the intention to join the european union in two years , at the same time, the chief diplomat of the russian federation borel stated that he is not ready to name specific terms of terms today , the reason for this is, in particular, the war, which today is still

continues in ukraine and now ukraine has received a report based on the results of a questionnaire that was sent earlier and they are also continuing the transition of bringing ukrainian legislation into compliance with the norms of the european union even today, as president volodymyr zelenskyi said, all seven recommendations from the european union will be implemented soon , direct speech of the president of ukraine now let's listen ukraine and the european union are no longer separate subjects of european life our values ​​are common our destiny is common our enemy our defense is common, and therefore our lives are united, this year should become the time when there will be no obstacle left for the start of negotiations on

ukraine's full membership in the eu . whether or not it is a breakthrough for ukraine and how much it will bring it closer to joining the euro, this topic, the topic is ukraine, the eu, you have the right to speak, iryna. thank you very much, tomorrow means we will add you to the broadcast. iryna sysak - correspondent of radio svoboda an extremely important topic, the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine demands from the authorities of georgia to return mykhailo saakashvili, who is a ukrainian citizen, to kyiv by politicians, according to the statement that appeared on the website of the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs, kyiv calls on the georgian authorities to immediately stop the abuse of mykhailo saakashvili and hand him over to ukraine for treatment in the worst traditions of the nkvd of the ussr, georgian the authorities apply psychological and physical violence to mikheil saakashvili

, deny him urgently needed medical care, deliberately creating a direct a threat to his life, a gross violation of human rights against a ukrainian citizen goes against tbilisi's declared course for eu membership, which indicates the collapse of democracy in georgia. ukraine also appeals to foreign governments and international organizations to publicly defend the former president of georgia. that at the next court session by video link, mikhail saakashvili demonstrated what state he is in now. you can see this video on the screen during the session. saakashvili said that prisoners, he was tortured, he was poisoned, mikheil saakashvili was detained in georgia in october 21st, he is accused of illegally crossing the border, spending budget funds on personal needs and abusing official powers in prison. saakashvili went on hunger strike several times, after which his health i

began to deteriorate in november 22nd , a group of independent doctors stated that the politician has at least 10 diagnoses that are incompatible with imprisonment. well, at the end of january 23rd, saakashvili's lawyers reported that he was transferred to the intensive care unit, that he is in critical condition , what are the prospects for saakashvili's return to kyiv, and why is tbilisi not taking this step ? your son is the president of georgia, in what condition is he and where is he? now he continues to be in intensive care or is he in a normal hospital? please tell me.

president zelenskiy, whose appeal has now grown worldwide, and who , despite all his busyness and all kinds of psychological stress , is willing to fight for the life of my son. whom i did not have the chance to meet in ukraine. thank you and the hammer, in general, to the ministry of strange affairs , this is such a reckless statement that appeared today to support your son. every day it accumulates. well, you know that tyunin has been there for an hour and almost 5 months . during this time, he visited the

so-called hospitals. well, in fact, it has always been a prison. it's not entirely clear why he's there. well, in any case, this is a very difficult position for this time, so he, er, received several heavy blows, and er, third-party players who, in general, and in our opinion, music should be evaluated with er, it frees a person from a prison sentence but there is nothing similar here, why did the dnieper go to the dnipro? besides, he was poisoned and it is necessary to urgently get rid of it . unfortunately, this also does not happen here in georgia, there is no

experience in fighting. experts, eh, doctors who will watch eh got out of him urgently , eh , how will he find a suitable hospital and somehow try to save the man? you have a suspicion that someone could poison him in prison well, i don't know, it's definitely not. the fact is that here are the doctors who did the analysis after the test and then presented the interpretation of the analysis. they said that this could have happened on march 12 in general. further here yes, well, that's what he has, uh, well, he has a chronic, so slow form , you know, he's slowly being killed, he wants to know

what's going on now, he has a constant fever , so the temperature is constant, now september begins, he has a constant temperature, and he's losing all his weight, he's losing er, at a height of 194, he now weighs 68 kg because everyone can imagine what is happening, the muscles have completely disappeared, the person is practically unable to stand on his feet and move, this is the situation we have. you just said that he is in such a state that he is slowly dying. why do georgians in the regions or someone else, i want to ask you, slowly kill mikhail saakashvili? well, because for some reason they are constantly afraid of him, it is understood that they somehow got rid of it in the 12th year when

the elections took place and that's peace in er-er transferred power to er-er party here are dreams eh but in eh all the same you are his appearance and well, we had to pull out yes because he could not stay here there were such and such advice, he left then well, you know, then there were some terrible things about him , and what is interesting about this is that it happened only after he was the governor of zhadachny in odessa, and a friend remembered that - he committed what he committed to no one i don’t understand, in any case, this commission is all very artificial. yes, this question would also be asked if they were afraid of it in

georgia, so they would not be against getting rid of it, but in that sense hand it over to ukraine and forget about it, but they don’t do it either. they already did it once, he left, and then that friend came back, for some reason, it is always dangerous. what can he return, and when can they lose power? they are holding on to their power, and for everything that they looted, i will be there all this time. in his recent interview from dalnoi spiegel, he admitted that his return to georgia in october xxi could be somehow involved in russia's return.

well, in general, it was. stay in the magazine, the state official, yes, and he writes about it there . i don’t know what he has. of course he couldn't do it omit, but he probably thought then that the country was in danger, there were no elections at the time, and besides, he had nostalgia , imagine he came to the fact that he loves ukraine very much, he has a lot of friends in ukraine, and in ukraine he loves him, and he has a lot of english there people, well, nevertheless, at some point here i decided to come back , please tell me if you will see each other in iskeneam , yes, now there is such a situation that i almost do not let anyone to him, it was announced in the second quarantine

they even let children go there and they were like that it's not yes, he still got it from the tax office recently, but it's over, these days are over, when he didn't allow anyone to visit him except me, and me because i bring food there, you know, that's why i was in the morning and in the evening, that's how would exclude yes well, in general, this quarantine is not a guarantee. yes, this one is over. and the quarantine continues. well, now, i am allowed to go there with a lawyer, only to give a lawyer and me, and when was the last time you saw your son ? this is today, twice a day, twice i am ego i see it and every time i am afraid because here he disappears literally before my eyes. this situation disappears. who or what could or could save him now? and all the doctors who

were watching. these were foreign. there were several experts from the united states and switzerland. there was only one expert. eh great britain eh they came to look eh at local doctors of a very high level too our

legislation frees the prisoner's love from the conclusion, well, nevertheless, nothing changes with us, he still continues to be there. he already delayed this process very much, you know, every day it gets worse and worse. it seems to me that this is the first time at the level of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine . ukraine has made such a statement. appealed to the georgian authorities. how do you think it will work, or after all, kyiv is not the decree of tbilisi in what saakashvili should do, eh, eh , i don't know how it will end, but that's all . i'm very grateful. very grateful . here's the ministry and the president to zelensky, this application is very big support for us, it's very big. you know, i also don't know how much it makes sense , but i also had to hear : will it become permissible? we know that

the gasoline oligarch has great influence in georgia. the former prime minister and there was information that ukraine would very much like to extend sanctions regarding him international sanctions may not become saakashvili's release may be the subject of negotiations regarding ivanishvili's sanctions what do you think well everything can be yes very much can be very much can be you will read yes well when when you understand time passes and we have very little time i wish you i wish you as soon as possible to see your son free thank you very much and ulyana thank you, the mother of the former president of georgia, mikhail saakashvili, went for a walk, sanya was on radio svoboda well, at the very end, i traditionally encourage you to subscribe to the pages of radio svoboda on social networks instagram telegram facebook twitter viber and also on youtube two channels of radio svoboda and radio

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