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oleksiy almazov, join the gathering, let's get closer to victory together glory to ukraine i congratulate all viewers of the espresso tv channel, the program refugees with angelika is on the air , the season in which i reveal the history of ukrainians who through full-scale armed aggression of russia is against ukraine, they were forced to leave their homes, their motherland and leave abroad to seek refuge in other countries , today we will talk about the country of tulips the land of eternal rains. and by the way, one of the tallest people in europe is the netherlands. by the way, i will immediately point out that it is absolutely incorrect to call the netherlands holland. such a name is common, but it is officially incorrect , because holland, especially northern and southern holland, are only two of the 12 provinces of the netherlands of this kingdom. it is correct

to call it the netherlands, so we will talk about this country and my today's heroine is natalya kot, social activist, entrepreneur and teacher by the way of the ukrainian language mrs. natalya i greet you good day thank you agreed to tell your story. i know that you are from luhansk. and of course this region has been at war since 2014. you have been living in kyiv for a long time. how did you meet the war? on february 24 , it was a full-scale invasion. where were you ? you know, i am wrong . i will never forget this morning. the majority of ukrainians, the day before, i had a daughter, at that time she was a little over a year old, my youngest daughter. she slept very badly all night, and when i was able to fall asleep in the morning, i was woken up by a man

saying, wake up, we have been bombarded for half an hour i told him that he was making something up for himself, let him continue to sleep. let me sleep. but it is clear that i could not sleep anymore. i opened my phone and saw a message from my mother, who was at that time in the luhansk region, in the city of starobilsk . was under the control of ukraine and of course it was impossible to sleep. it was impossible and we started to gather like most ukrainians, we probably believed that it was not a few days, but weeks at most a month and we arrived in a village in the kyiv region where my husband's grandparents' house is. we spent more there a little more two months in two weeks, but that morning of course, it is unlikely that anyone will ever forget the courage to leave ukraine and

there is no other option for you except for the youngest daughter. i have an older daughter, at that time she was 11.5 years old. we were in the fastiv region for a little more than two weeks, and our village is located so that bila tserkva and makariv are equidistant from us, and we heard in our village that it is about 40 km from us, but we heard explosions when, uh, there were rocket attacks on bila church and in one evening i was very scared because i saw a panic attack in my eldest daughter and i realized that this is not very good for her age because she is now in a transitional age and such psychological traumas will not give anything good for the future eh and at that moment i

realized that it is necessary, at least not for the border, but from the kyiv region, it is necessary to study and of course i was scared because i understood that we would go abroad at that time, i already had many invitations from my friends from different countries thanks to my social activities. i know many people from different countries. this is germany sweden and finland and the netherlands and armenia. in short, i knew that it was temporarily to western ukraine, and then we would move on because my main task was to preserve the physical and moral health of my daughters. and on march 8, we met in the last time, my husband and i got into a car with volunteers who told us that we were doing the right thing, since this was our village not far from well, relatively not far from the zhytomyr arc, then they said that if the money-makers break through

the zhytomyr dobu now, they will be in your village and with a small child from here. it is unlikely that we go without our own car, mrs. natalya, what made you choose the netherlands among the variety of offers, because usually ukrainians go to poland, germany, maybe the czech republic, and the netherlands is, in my opinion , interesting, but not familiar to ukrainians country and yes, you know, i literally mentioned yesterday how it happened that we are here in the netherlands . by the way, one of the last ones began to accept refugees from ukraine en masse. well, i think that it is because of the distance from ukraine that it is more 1 500 km and why yes why the netherlands first of all i had a desire um i wanted to stay in europe i didn't want to fly to canada or the usa ah my task was to want to stay in europe and at the same time my

desire was to be as far as possible from the border with russia, that is why i did not consider estonia for myself at all poland with russia and belarus i did not consider these countries for myself at all and before we left, my uncle and his wife left with my sister two cousins ​​and two she went with her sons, they ended up in poland and they were waiting for us, you can say that, but they told us that there are two options where to go next: slovakia or the netherlands at that time if i also had an invitation from my friends from the netherlands. i say well, you know, i would definitely take the netherlands because they are further what was your journey to russia? did they pay for your trip because some countries offer a direct free transfer and so on? did you

get there on your own, how long did it take at the time when we were traveling? we were in chernivtsi, we were waiting for my mother, and she was already from starobilsk in the occupied territory. we waited until she could leave. her path was not easy for us , but then when she arrived , we got together and left. our road will definitely advance. first we got to lviv at our own expense by train, then from lviv in lviv at the railway station we saw a red cross bus that was taking people to poland , i was absolutely indifferent to where exactly in poland we had to go to city ​​of kovel in

there were centralized buses from poland to the netherlands. it was the same place where my godchildren were already with my son, and we went to the city of zamostia. we spent one night there. the gym is big because i have a small child. we were privileged here. places let's say it's a small gym in which there are about 40 children and 10 adults. that is, they are children from two months to 12 years old. it's probably the same as february 24. i'll never forget it. because when i saw these women who didn't know where i needed to go just like we didn't know and then with the zamos already reached opole, where they spent the night for three more matches in a huge gym with 150 seats. but for us, since we were, again, a small child

, they made such a report. centrally by bus, which was organized in the netherlands by female volunteers, he came to opel to answer humanitarian aid for ukraine from the netherlands, from opole he took people to the netherlands it was 12 hours on the bus, it is a competent bus, but they are alone with a small child for 12 hours. fortunately, i was saved by the fact that at the time my youngest daughter was breastfeeding, and this, you know, saved me, because otherwise i can’t imagine how we would have been able to get there. of course, it is stressful for any person, for a small child, it’s generally yes, that’s why we first went to one town, lived there for a week and now came to our, what do we call a castle, and in this town, which became

such a transfer zone for you, and there you also lived in some conditions like a gym, because i know stories that in germany, people, our ukrainian refugees, lived for several months in such gyms, where 100 people just stand or mattresses or, in the best case , beds, and that’s how they lived together for several months, you know. i think that thanks to the fact that the netherlands did not immediately start accepting ukrainians, there was once such a time to prepare the conditions . distribution points and this is amsterdam utrekhtoterdam in money and we drove purposefully to a specific increase, that is, the entire bus we were traveling on, these were people for whom a room had already been prepared, and in the netherlands, how big is the problem with

housing for local residents, and even for ukrainians stood out from former schools or even black accomplices of some detectives so a-a comfortable er-e dream as far as it can be office construction we are but eh hmm originally from the city but mine was there once as they explained to us it was a sanatorium for girls from light problems with the law, that is, this is a place where girls were given a small room, but nevertheless it is much better than under the bombs there between us, for example , there were a lot of people from the chernihiv region, from the kharkiv region, from the zaporizhzhia region , so they were comfortable and in any case

to stay the danger of the territory and now, that is, it was a large room in which we had beds, the only thing that was public, the toilet had about 20 rooms , there are also people in the room for a common kitchen for which we could cook food, which we are used to at the beginning we were given food by volunteers. since we did not have payments at the very beginning, we were given food that we could not use. well, of course, no one could fill out a credit card on our own if we wanted some surplus , but in principle, it was enough or quite decent to eat. we were given special ones for small children. by the way , hygiene items are already basic, they are diapers, shampoos, toothpaste, even cotton

swabs, er, well, i mean, can you find the necessary amount for small children as well it was provided for milk e from a dairy mixture because the netherlands, like most european countries, they are in-depth feeding but do not protest apartments artificial hours, that is, if you wish, you could take milk mixtures, puree , some children’s and all kinds of other necessary things , that is, what was the problem, even on the first day i was given for of the youngest daughter, vitamin d please tell me, do you now live in this former sanatorium ? tell me correctly about the town in the settlement where you were sent, is it far from the official capital of amsterdam or from the actual capital the hague, the netherlands, where all the main events take place. so when we lived there in au, we didn’t move in with our relatives who

are in what we call our place castles , it’s a former monastery, then it and the place a hotel for britwits are sometimes called chaos and that is, people came for that in order to reboot spiritually, now, of course, there is a big difference from the place where we were at first, because it is according to the hotel plan of the building. that is, these are separate rooms with their own showers, toilets, and a common kitchen where we eat centralized and this town is located not far from the border with germany in the north eh and a video of amsterdam it is about three hours as when the dutch say on facebook eh in public transport the dutch say it is

very far so we only smile because we know how to be an opportunity it is 36 hours from the luhansk district, so it is relatively far, but at the same time, i was in amsterdam for a year. we traveled a lot with our women, at the time when ukrainians were still allowed to travel for free in order to distract the children . what is the stress today that we started and our children, including, went to museums, you suffer from the rotterdam bases. well, i dream of getting into gas or how to be imprisoned. i sing the constitution. i would like to one day try this tribunal, of course, the main dictator of this world, vladimir putin. well, mr. lukashenko. i also think that he is absolutely involved in this war and they both deserve the tribunals and the harshest punishment for all their criminal acts in

ukraine and not only in ukraine, because we remember history, and ms. natalya, i know that payments according to official data are at least 260 € in the netherlands, they pay per person, regardless of whether it is an adult or a child, but from february 1 there are innovations, they will be local, or maybe at the national level. the authorities, you tell me to check whether there is a person there , a refugee from ukraine, other income or benefits, and maybe they will take away the opportunity to receive such social benefits, does it already apply to you and how will they be interesting to check? well, first of all, about the benefits really in the netherlands, that is, when we arrived here until january 1, we received 260 €

regardless of the age of the child for people spent who lived there in shelters, that is, a centralized room, yes, this is the name if a person lives , for example, in a private, er, room there, hosting families or his relatives, or somehow an easier alternative way of living. they have and they received that additional compensation for communal services because they are not cheap here, but from the state about er 17, because there was no need to recognize this 260 €, er , the state provides 55 € for personal needs such as clothes, shoes, maybe some additional ones, and 205 € according to the government’s calculation to be spent on food for food for those people who live in places where it is not possible to cook on their own, and for this 25 euros they pay in the city where they

live, for example, if it is a hotel or on a ship, the same thing happens to people there and they receive three times or something is not according to the meal arrangements and 55 euros remains for personal needs. and we received the same a-a, but this assistance was canceled from the moment when an adult person starts working until february 1, it only applied to a person who works for example, i was accepted that october, signed a contract for work from that moment on, my payments were canceled for me, but for my daughters i continued to receive 260 € per month from february 1, a new rule was introduced, a new law according to which if in seven a family is considered to be a husband, a wife, and a minor

, their children, if at least one person works, payments are canceled for the whole family upon consideration of the cement - this is something like our federal administration, that is, this is either for consideration and in our sign, where we live borne students, they really said that the payment is canceled for the whole family, but since the netherlands is very socially oriented , ukraine a-a subjects who work officially to parents who work officially can receive additional payments from the state on the same level as the dutch, that is, in them there is such a concept of kinderblism - this is, if i pronounced it correctly, and it is something like the child benefit that all working people in the netherlands receive or mentally living mineral for children from zero to 18 years old, regardless of your

products, in addition, there is another one yesterday for me i tried to learn that there is no such thing as a budget . it depends on the income that the family already has, that is, if, for example, my salary is equal to or below the minimum living wage, i have the right to add to this allowance and also receive about 3 depending on the product, about 300 € in a quarter, is this enough to live on? it’s interesting, because in different european countries, after all, the prices are different, somewhere higher , somewhere lower, for groceries for travel, but tell me what the situation is like in the netherlands with this, yes, groceries according to the local people, the prices have become very expensive, the same thing has become all the expected payments these days, you know what's lucky. because we don't pay at all for communal services , yes, that is, light, water, heating does not

concern us at all. how much does it cost, because we live in a shelter in the west and a private video for the municipal because it has an owner well, not the state and we don't pay with our eyes for the utility service at all, the people you rent housing on their own, and by the way, it's not easy to do, and of course they complain that it's about a thousand euros for utility payments for a quadrangle family, about two hundred and sixty euros, you know. well, it's hard to tell me. for example, it's enough for this , in order not to line up , of course, they drank it. they fed us, took us for a day, and you will go on, that’s all, the money is quite enough, because

what is happening in the area, i think we live there , they are very sensitive, they were very concerned about our situation and tried to go to the wedding. here are clothes and shoes and hygiene items he always tried to clarify with us something, that is, you continue to be fed, and this money was allocated for some of your individual needs. it is correct that 55 euros are household, yes, our individual needs, but 205 of them are 205 out of 2560. 205 * and what kind of food does he have? she wants to eat centrally. she can pay to be paid. and how do you organize your life? you said you eat centrally . who cooks for you? you all cook in turn. is it some kind of volunteers or do cooks come and cook like this at the beginning, really, when he only

they arrived, it wasn’t organized yet and they could figure out how to do it better, and since it’s a former hotel, there is one professional song on which to ask in turn is unrealistic, because imagine it’s 90 people, even with children , if we take children into account less than 40 days 50 approximately 50 adults it is very difficult and difficult it is difficult to imagine 50 housewives in the kitchen alone, this is really so and why was the snacking shift organized? that is, there will be brigade members of 4-5 women who took turns cooking for the whole team, you can say without a person it our ukrainian women, that is, we took turns and then, as people began to go to work, they were paid. this, of course, became problematic, and now we have two ukrainian language teams

of four each, who prepare food for those who agreed to eat centrally, because we have people who they gave up on centralized food, or for various reasons, they don’t spend a lot of time there , it’s inconvenient to come at a specific time and the like, that is, now we have a full three-course ukrainian meal for ukrainian cuisine and for 25 €, as i say, it's all inclusive, even my youngest daughter already knows that the court prepares them for the holidays. class, you told us that you got a job under a contract from october. i think this question worries a lot of refugees who, of course, not only want to sit on social benefits, because our ukrainians are very hardworking people and like to earn money on their own. how did you manage to get a job and was there, for example, a language barrier

? what language do you speak there ? you speak good english. the english language, yes, you really know when we arrived here, we arrived at the end of march and there were already the first settlers who gathered here and said the volunteers were very pleasantly surprised by the entrepreneur, eh, because from the first day, ukrainian women demanded to let us do what we want to value natural persons and this indeed, our such a feature is national. if you can say so, and of course, the problem with employment on the one hand for ukraine is why, unfortunately, in our society, we will have a frankly low level of foreign language proficiency in big cities yes, but a lot of women do not own people in general, not only women, but all people do not own foreign energies

of any kind , and in the netherlands the english language is really very widespread. they look like ukrainian women, marked there, courtship , we are different, but they start to speak to you in english, but they know the english language. about 80 in atomic percent a-a that is, if you know english before the netherlands it will be easier for you, the bigger the city, the easier it will be for you, but the dutch people value their activities very much and shoot back especially older questions who do you call dutch it doesn't matter it is not very widespread but

they, er, local residents are very approachable to the fact that we try to learn the dutch language, all refugees, all temporarily displaced people, temporary protection seekers, for them, i’m begging you, they didn’t teach you the language and for this, various courses have been organized on a volunteer basis . before i arrived , i had enough of my own english language, that is, i could express myself, i can understand what i have to say, that was enough for such everyday communication , the place where we live, it continues function only as it is with you the post