[000:00:00;00] they are very approachable to the fact that we try to learn the dutch language, all the refugees, all the refugees, all the temporarily displaced persons, the recipients of the temporary sentence plan , i am asking you to teach the language. and for this , various courses are organized on a volunteer basis . how did i manage to do exactly that ? my own such english language, that is, i could express myself, i can understand what they say to me, this was enough for such everyday communication, the place where we live, it continues to function only as it is with you, the post

is called a nameless guy, install it not only as a shelter for ukrainians, but as a business center that is, you can’t, it’s a joint business center where people can rent premises for holding some business meetings and so on. that is, it is not only a shelter, but continues to perform its functions. so, i found the initial functions very it's easy to work. i went to the owner and said i would like to work. maybe you know who i can talk to about this. maybe there are some friends or acquaintances who can provide me with work for which i can get paid, and he said ok . right now i have an offer for that's how i started addressing the manager, thanks to my english , even though i write in dutch on instagram. thank you to the translator, to the volunteers who check the factors. but in principle, it would be possible

in english to those people who go border, if you are planning to leave, for example, start learning english today, it will never be superfluous , but there is no such requirement to know dutch, that is, sometimes they are allowed only with a communicative level of english, and now our english is better than it was, because daily practice and of course there are professions in which it is impossible to do without the dutch language , if we are talking about medical workers or people who take care of the elderly , of course they do not speak dutch how because when a person is under stress, yes or well, if it hurts, it is easier to speak in their native language, this is absolutely clear if we are talking about the education system, not a-a for ukrainian children, because there are now a lot of international schools in which there are special classes

for ukrainian children, yes the dutch language is necessary, i will say more, even in some supermarkets they do not want to take the dutch language from day one, but unfortunately , perhaps most of all, our women currently work in cleaning companies in which knowledge of any language is not required at all, a lot they work in greenhouses in some fields, that is, it is a low-skilled job. well, such a good, good trait was played with us by covid. because during covid, many workers were fired because they were not needed, and even now in the netherlands there is a great shortage of personnel and ukrainian women, it is from other sources that they have filled in those who do not want to go, the local population sometimes, well, how much do they pay for it? maybe you know some minimum wage in the field of personnel or service

in the hotel and restaurant business. i also know in vacancies are common in the netherlands. well, as far as i know, the minimum wage is 10. about 1,700 € for a full -time job, that is, in them, just like in ukraine, in principle , 40 hours a week is considered a weekly workload. very few local people work because they have established work life bells is interesting that we do not have in ukraine and in general in post-soviet countries we talk about how much we worked in ukraine they say about nataliya and when did you spend time with your children when did you rest when did you traveled uh, when you enjoyed life, that is, it is normal for them to work about 4-6 hours a day, they do not chase such large fortunes, the time

that you do not spend with children is more important to them, and here, by the way , there is one more thing, why do we need to learn more one nuance, eh, for them in the netherlands, the responsibilities are very clearly divided between mothers and fathers, tell me interestingly, because upbringing is very important, you know when we have such baddies as we call them, they are dutch friends who help us adapt in society and when i once invited my father and that they are coming to visit, she says oh no, i can't on this day because it's my evening with the children, i say fine, and he says well. we have it divided between me and my husband that one day in the evening, for example, my husband i spend the next day with the children, i spend the next day with pleasure, as they agree , but you know there is no such thing as caregiving work is a woman's work, they themselves are men who

are very responsible towards parenthood and it is absolutely not a strange thing to see men on playgrounds or in children's entertainment centers or in the swimming pool and the like. in addition, they have a lot of families with many children by our standards, that is , three or four. five children are normal, and you know dads on maternity leave and dads on maternity leave. i met them, but they said that it is more widespread than in ukraine, because in ukraine, my husband was on maternity leave. with her husband and he was on maternity leave with the younger daughter, the older one is the same as the older one, a little less than the younger one. anastasia was not yet a year old when my husband went on maternity leave. and i

started doing business. well, it was so profitable and comfortable for all of us, and you know when i'm talking about my experience here in the netherlands. they say, well, it's real, it's logical that it's better for the child to be with dad than with an outsider, although maternity leave lasts officially here . give me about three months and then the child can already go to they call me something, that is, they don’t have such a concept as a kindergarten, it’s wild. and where can a child go, or will they be helped to carry the little one at all, and the mother goes to work , but i know that your youngest daughter does not go to school , you told me in our personal conversation about which is very expensive. they don't have public free kindergartens, er, they are all public , they are all public and private, in relation to the concept of kindergarten, as in our understanding, they

don't have any at all. that is, every mother who works . she works, of course. every person has the right send a child for socialization, the first reason why children are sent to kindergarten is socialization, the development of the child, and can send to such a kindergarten, it is a group. for mothers who work, there is compensation from the state , because 1 hour in such an institution costs about 10 €. and that is, count if, for example, in ukraine, uh, from 9:00 to 6:00, so it ’s 9 hours, well, that is, 90 €

per day had to be used. for dads the same depending on the level the wages of the whole family can be compensated by the state from the taxes paid by the parents because the taxes here are also quite high , but people have dissolved security. hour work day, i will be compensated only for these four hours, that is, i cannot take her for 8 hours and work four hours myself and receive compensation for eight , there is no such thing, on the one hand , the system is quite complicated, on the other hand, it is transparent and everyone understood, it is the same for everyone, regardless of how you work, that is, depending on your wealth. there will only be

the amount of compensation , the amount of this compensation. children go to these groups and these groups are mixed, that is, it is not like here in ukraine that we came here. we have tatyanka svitlanka and mykhaylyk in the group there, and here they are from the first day. like us in kindergarten and until the last day of graduation. we are with these children and they constantly change its composition groups, it is interesting for children and at the same time you can come. if it is a baby, for example, there is a breastfed baby right there, then you can bring expressed milk if the baby is breastfed and, er, some women who work in this and they will feed or bring artificial food, that is, in them there are no occasional meals in kindergartens; usually, if the child stays for a long time, the parents independently take care of what she will eat there

. as for the older daughter, how did she adapt to the local school, because what grade has she already entered? i think it is more difficult for her than small for a small girl, after all, the main thing is for mom to be around so, uh, the dutch system, the educational system of the netherlands is different from our ukrainian one, olena went to the first grade here, how come it's not surprising , why the first first grade of a high school in ukraine - it should have been the sixth grade here she went to the first step a-a the education system in the netherlands consists of several levels and children go to school at the age of 4 at the age of 4 they have the right to start school at the age of 5 all children are obliged to attend educational institutions, regardless of whether their parents want it or not, if you don't want it, there are quite large fines there from 5 years to 11

years inclusive, that is, until the moment when the child turns 12. children attend primary school. that is, we have a school for 4-5 years of course you can understand what kind of school it is, it is more for socialization, for learning about some colors, for reading and the like , that is, children up to the age of 12, well, as they say to us, preparation for children to be able to study, they learn letters, numbers, how to count and the like then, from the age of 12, children go to primary school, where they begin to study sciences more systematically and thoroughly . for our ukrainian children, as well as for any children who came to the netherlands from other countries, there is such a thing as a newcomer school , that is, a school for newcomers children in these schools, the main emphasis is on learning

the dutch language in my oldest now 15 hours of dutch per week and last year, because she was not yet well, last school year, because she was not yet 12 years old, she attended elementary school for new chambers in which there were only ukrainian children . now she attends a high school for one of the children who arrived, in which they are already, if i'm not mistaken, about 50 nationalities are enrolled in this school. there may simply be people who have changed their ukraine , for example from the same germany or from another country, they simply moved here in order to live and do not take the dutch language for free, correct mrs. natalya

, attending school from the age of four yes to higher education higher education is paid for everyone regardless of your origin, but secondary education is free and for the little ones are they fed at school or do you need to bring lunch boxes with you some children are not fed lunch boxes here not only you can't take everything you want to boxing lunch when we uh we had an interview with the principal of the elementary school she told us that in the netherlands they care a lot about a healthy lifestyle and that's why they don't advise bringing chocolate sodas uh all kinds of sandwiches to school mean that can spoil or something that is not considered useful, that is, they advise you to take fruit with you, it can be bread, the dutch eat a lot of bread, every bread is the main product for the future, it seems to me that with

ukrainians, they have even more instead of breakfast and lunch - this is bread, different types of bread, different, very, very many different types of bread with some masks made of a jacket, it will also not be useful if it is especially not whole grain, yes . those who have the opportunity are worried about it , they buy more expensive types of bread, those who they don’t have, they buy seedlings, if you look at their figures, i don’t know where they were called, maybe they are young. maybe they do a lot of sports. but they don’t feed our children . we were told, well , it’s centralized at the school. they advise our children to put it there, it can be during the first break and during the second break , we have two breaks there, these are increased during the second break - this is some kind of fruit, vegetables, er, a fruit

plate can also be given to them at school, that is if the child does not have the opportunity or the child has forgotten the filench box at home, she will not remain hungry, and in the teacher's room there are always some carrots, fruits, vegetables, which must be shared with the children, mrs. natalia's school. it is also very interesting. in addition to work and study, there are hobbies and interests. i know that you sing in a choir, and i know that you learned to ride a bicycle in the netherlands. tell me about your hobbies and spending time outside of work. yes, in the choir. unfortunately, they sing on me and my eldest daughter because once i tried to come to a rehearsal in the choir, but since i was with the younger one, the younger one also decided to join in, and i messed up the whole garden, and that's why only the older daughter sings so far, and the younger

one is going to join again, she got drunk there recently at the rehearsal, eh, you know, the most basic task, as i see it, since we are here we are trying to show the dutch ukrainians who we are, what our culture is, and the choir was created precisely for this purpose. the original purpose of this choir was the psychological rehabilitation of women and children who came here. this choir was created by one of a refugee from ukraine from zaporizhzhia, maria baldyeva. she led the zaporizhzhia choir in ukraine, and now when she moved to ours here in the netherlands, we live in the same house, this was the main goal to psychologically rehabilitate children and mothers, then another goal was added this

is the promotion of ukrainian culture, that is to say, we show our ukrainian songs. we show our culture and our heritage. and this is one thing, you know. the netherlands is one of those countries where you can, if you don't even have a hobby you will definitely be contacted a-a people here are very er-e as i already said vorku s balans yes , they like to rest very much, but not lying on the sofa or on the beach under an umbrella why did a bicycle happen in my life? it's a very interesting story . i've been promising myself for about 5 years in a row .

the bike won't go anywhere from me, and that's it it has come to this summer in the netherlands without a bicycle is impossible because there is almost no public transport where we live between city connections, that is, it exists, but it does not go very often and it is not very convenient to get to it, and i do not have a car to drive it yet that's why i needed a bicycle, of course eh. it was very scary because i'm already a grown woman. it 's not a small child. well, everyone rode easily , but the main thing was to overcome this psychological barrier, but when i rode, now i can't anymore. to understand how i used to live, i know they are joking in the netherlands or maybe it is really recorded, i took it as a joke that more bicycles are recorded than the population is registered, yes, it is true, i can even explain why there is not a little time ms.

natalya and you have confirmed that we have enough literally 40 seconds remain, unfortunately, not everything had time to discuss what we wanted, but in the end, i traditionally ask all my heroes if you are ready to return to ukraine and under what conditions or maybe you would like to stay and live in the netherlands, stay in i definitely do not want him in the netherlands, regardless of how well we are perceived here. i really want to return to ukraine . there are more opportunities for me there , including for my children, but i made a decision for myself. my husband agreed with me that we can return when in there will be no air in the entire territory of ukraine in the entire territory of ukraine. thank you. we have to finish with this, mrs. natalya . it was very interesting to listen to you and hear your story. thank you for participating in the program refugees with angelika sezonnenko, we are looking for

three missing children from the vlasov family at once, we are talking about two brothers, dmytro and artem, and their sister, sofya , their aunt told me about the disappearance of the children, it is she in the photo with the children. olena has been living in spain for 10 years, but regularly keeps in touch with her brother and nephews, the woman said that her relatives lived in the city of mariupol in a nine-story building at 61 kurchatova street and that they last contacted the day before the start of a full-scale war and that i do not know what happened to them i am looking for viber and telegram no i don't know where to find them imagine for almost a year, ms. olena has not known anything about the fate of her family, so she is asking for help to find her relatives . this is her brother serhiy vlasov with his sons artem

and dmytro. back in 2014, little sofia was only two years old then and she suffered the loss of her mother very hard because of this, she still has certain psychological disorders and problems with development, the girl does not speak very well, this is how my mother looks like sofia now 10 years old, and her brothers artem and dmytro, 12 and 14 years old, on the left in the photo , artem in a green t-shirt, dmytro in the middle in a gray blouse. that during the bombings the father and the children were hiding in the basement or somewhere in the bomb shelter and now maybe he moved somewhere mrs. elena , while in spain, miraculously found out

about this she even managed to get in touch with her to an acquaintance in mariupol. this woman said that she saw the children whole and unharmed at the beginning of may. my friend worked with them. she was their teacher. when i talked to her and found her, yona says we have no connection, not sveta. on facebook, she told me that the last time i saw them was in my bus, and that was all. so , my friend olena from mariupol saw artem dmytro and sofiyka in early may. the children were put on a bus. but it is unknown where he went. we don't know in which department my girlfriend doesn't know for sure either, we don't know where he is

, what he is in on social networks, so please. if anyone knows where the children could have been taken, or if anyone has seen sofia dmytro and artem or their father serhiy vlasov, do not hesitate and call us on the hotline of the magnolia children search service at the short number 116,000 calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free. if there is no way to get in touch by phone, write to the chatbot of the child search service in telegram. i have another story of the disappearance of a child, also in mariupol, this is 14-year-old viktor khudoshyn , the boy was last contacted connection on april 1, then he stayed in the city and the situation there has been extremely tense since then. nine months have passed, but there was no more news about the child. if anyone has seen viktor khudoshin, does

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send for training those specialists who have experience in working with anti-aircraft systems defense that is, they will not be taught the basic element, but they will study this particular system from the point of view of managing this system from the point of view of maintaining this particular system , so the program is somewhat shortened, first of all, this system will significantly strengthen the capabilities of our about our breeds of air defense, especially in terms of combating ballistic missiles. therefore, this is a significant improvement in the capacity of our system , our pp system, of course, one system that we get is not enough, we are working on getting it. we are still ready. we have specialists which we are ready to send for training, that is , the question of obtaining additional systems, when the ukrainian military can be ready to operate the patriot system, what are your