[000:00:00;00] and in the motorized infantry units we have a muftanka company of 10 units, so although in the soviet army it is in the motorized rifle troops, motorized rifle regiments, tank battalions, well, there were four tanks in the formations, but what is this connected with ? during the battle, at this time, the other one is covering him, he took a favorable firing position, after that uh, when he begins to cover , the one who was covering starts moving to another position, uh, we encountered this during the competition, uh, ur red strong challenge and, in principle, our tankers who took part felt

it physically. so, i think it would be very appropriate to use the experience that is the nato instructions that the field men called for the training of our tankers , who will still undergo training. in poland or in germany, someone in great britain will teach those instructors who, in fact, i am, for whom it all works at the level of the subconscious , but for this it is necessary to reorganize the states that are. well, for this, it is necessary as much as possible it is faster to apply the standards that are used in the country in the armies of nato countries, well, this is the first question. the second question is the organization of interaction not only within tank units

. and this is the organization of interaction between infantry and tank units within a battalion, within a brigade. battalions of the headquarters of the western brigades during the organization of hostilities with the use of the new equipment that we are receiving here again and the preparation of the headquarters of the battalions of the brigades and a certain reorganization of the personnel structure and when we talk about western equipment, this means that we, relatively speaking, now understand that we have to reduce all these same types of equipment to the same type of combat companies or battalions and change the ork personnel structure , including adding, for sure a larger number of staff officers who are able, relatively speaking, to plan the use of these tank units, because everyone complains that the staffing of our brigade there is so

small that actually the staff units there are so many functions imposed that actually they don't have time to perform them effectively, is it possible to get rid of this achilles ' heel in the new structures that we have to create at the expense of the arrival of western technology? we must take into account the fact that if we receive from great britain 14 challenger 2 tanks, then this should be a separate tank company, possibly as part of a separate battalion of mechanized or motorized infantry and other tanks in this unit or in this separate military unit is not desirable why because if we let's just add two lines of easter eggs, this will immediately entail a very serious complication of the logistics of technical maintenance and even combat use , respectively. if we will have

a battalion set of the same abrams there , then this is one tank battalion in the composition of some mechanized or motorized infantry brigade, and there should already accordingly, the headquarters of the battalion should be trained , it is desirable to change the personnel structure. tank bridge-layers will be placed directly in the staff of the battalion. that is, there needs to be a separate engineering and technical platoon of a specialist in the work of engineering units, that is, for the battalion-brigade headquarters. well, this is achilles' heel. why ? because the modern headquarters of our brigades are approximately two times less than

those needs that force us to have them on the battlefield. and if we compare the work experience of many of our officers during multinational exercises, starting there from 2008 and until the last year until 2022 then approximately the number of officers in the brigade headquarters should be twice as much a-a hm sergeants of the level of chief sergeants, master of elephant sergeants, headquarters of saplings, yes , in general, on the order of magnitude, because we have very few sergeants’ headquarters a-a, in the west, these are the main specialists who are very many they do it precisely as officers, that is, junior officers of the headquarters, mr. mykola, by the way, i talked with our guys who will be participating in hostilities there for a long time, and i even

heard such a recommendation from the tankers and from those who works on self-propelled acs says it would be good if we actually had two crews for each tank, then, relatively speaking , there would be at least some kind of rotation after a certain time, then i can say that during the week of hostilities, you become just a robot and you don’t even realize what you are what do you do on the battlefield, to what extent can such recommendations be implemented in modern reality, well , unfortunately, we cannot implement reality today why? such an ability. and in the future after the victory, we must work in this direction, which means that a person is able to work with maximum efficiency for no more than 72 hours in a row, and after that, psychological exhaustion and

physical exhaustion occur, and a person becomes well. actually, if you take the generally accepted zombies, that is a person begins to stop reacting to external stimuli; a person acts inadequately in the situation that develops around him ; therefore, if a unit or unit fights for three days, that is, at the end of the third of the day, the question of what needs to be changed is already being asked, it is necessary to find ways to give people a rest, and at the same time , this is manifested not only in combat operations, this is manifested during multi-day exercises when people do not have a full rest. a unique experience when you trained the first units that were trained on the t-64 tank, which was the first such technological tank

that entered the soviet army at the time, and how long did it take to prepare the crew of a battalion for performance of, let's say, typical tasks in the offensive and defense, and how this compares with the indicators that we now expect from our tankers who will be trained there on leopards or abrams , where they say that there is a maximum of three months there, and that will be enough for us we had a trained crew, but it is not clear when we will have a trained unit , what would be the time limits then and how realistic it is in modern conditions for more complex models eh then the soviet system trained in the so-called tank training units it is now communication problems, we are talking about the fact that right now our e-e crews have gone to britain or to train on challengers and poland undertakes

to prepare tank calculations in a short time for solid tanks and leopard tanks that they want us to hand over to the nearest sometimes, but actually a tank is such a collective means of armament, the effectiveness of which depends on the training of the crew. kind of turrets for carrying out tasks on the battlefield p. mykola, please continue your opinion, so now we will try to establish a connection by phone and actually, when we talk about a tank, it depends on the possibilities in this calculation to use the possibilities of this weaponry, because even there are such conversations about the fact that even the leopard tank is one of the modern tanks. the crew uses

at best even 70% of the capabilities inherent in this modern model of weapons and when they talk about the fact that in a month or two can master a tank, in fact, this is a certain exaggeration, because a tank must live with it constantly and then you can really use all the possibilities of this type of weapons e p mykola ot comparing the approaches of the soviet era on the modern tonic tank 54 and the solutions currently offered by the ukrainian army which optimal ways to reduce the period of training without losses for combat capabilities on the battlefield to retrain those tankers who have already operated t-72 tanks of various modifications of the t-64-8bv and so that those who have combat experience so and

moreover, the training should be carried out separately first, gunners, operators, teams, then mechanics, drivers for literally a couple of weeks, and after that, train the crew in a complex. so, er, and then the training of already coordinated crews gives a much greater effect than simply training separately by specialty those people from whom then in the future to form crews from the water of the company why because if you give basic training - it's one question and if you train or just retrain first in the specialty literally a couple of weeks after that retrain the crew is here, in principle, we will be able to leave for the combat coordination of the gate plants in a certain 8 weeks, maybe even a little less , but in a couple of weeks, we have coordination of the platoon and the company, and in principle, in three months we will have fully combat-capable units that have already smelled

the gunpowder before that, who understand what will await them on the battlefield and, accordingly, they will use the possibilities of the new equipment that they saw during the training , they cannot but ask about such a training component as simulators because your company another is developing complex simulators for various types of weapons, including tanks, at our training centers there were complex simulators where the military could actually prepare for the individual and collective use of this or that tank or infantry fighting vehicle, how does this component now fit into the supply of western tanks, please are we simulators or will we make them ourselves, what is the attitude to this issue now in the armed forces of ukraine, and it is a great pity when supplying all tanks from those countries from which they received we did not receive any simulator for a specific type of machine, in principle, it was

not very critical until we received t-72 tanks in various modifications, t-72m , t-72m1t-72mr, etc. as soon as we received n55s at the time so we had to bring in specialists there who, er, encountered the fact that the drivers' mechanics start to burn the main clutches because they are not used to working with such rarities, that the work of the charger and er has its own peculiarities, that the gunners and the tank commander must take into account that the calibers 151-105 mm and it is threaded and there is such a phenomenon as well as the derivation of the projectile. so, i really wanted those bodies that are currently

engaged in the acquisition of e-e armored vehicles from western countries to ask our allies , please, give us at least one complex in the set of each battalion simulator so that we can use them later for the training of the personnel who will come to be replenished during the restoration of combat capability . they have in the same great britain, but as soon as the tanks are a little bit across the state border, it will be necessary to think about the future, how to prepare a replacement for the crew that will conduct combat operations. and for this, simulators from

the allies are needed. so, simulators are sometimes more expensive than a tank, but the development of a simulator for western samples of weapons and their implementation, the introduction of such simulators into operation, it will take two or more years, mr. mykola, please write such a component as the comprehensive use of weapons when conducting an offensive there or a defensive tank battle, everyone is talking about the fact that bmp tanks and aviation should be integrated. if so , just explain to our viewers why it is important not to send one tank to conduct hostilities, why it is risky, like every type of weapon, a tank is just - it's just a tool, not tanks are fighting, people

are fighting, i.e. crews from the water company. of the military unit and each unit, that is, in the complex, that is, we will acquire interaction between tankers, artillerymen, and infantrymen , that is, if there is the involvement of aviation and missile troops , who should be the representatives of the e-e artillery? carrying out offensive operations with the use of tanks usually repeatedly heard about the fact that without aviation or without aviation support to carry out our expected offensive operations in certain theaters of military operations, which so far the enemy gets there, it will be extremely difficult, is it true, is it possible to advance on tanks in mechanized clones without aviation support to a depth of 30 km, you can

use artillery strikes, the only thing is that the artillery must work with those units that are advancing in real time, for this in the comments or to use unmanned aerial vehicles to adjust and call fire and actually train the crews of tanks and other combat vehicles so that they can call the fire of newly discovered artillery for purposes that hinder the advance of a at a distance of more than 50 km, that's where the role of aviation really grows , because aviation is the fastest way to deliver death to the enemy. the so-called digital battlefield, which is presented in western machines , is actually already embodied in these samples that we should

receive from our western partners. and what is actually happening now with our tanks , because we had to hear that in fact, we have a motorola. and when we talk about more complex models, there are radio stations of the same charisma, not all of our tankers are ready to use secure communication and use motorolas. what is the point? actually , when we receive western models, we have to raise the requirements for our crews to use these digital things that can really provide an advantage and interaction between other types and types of troops on the battlefield, what is actually and what should be, in principle, the principle of use within tank units this is precisely the requirement for the training of crews and for the training of units in general, but if we are talking about the fact that the artillerymen have one type of radio station that does not coincide with the one on the radio stations that are in the tankers and in the infantry, but the infantrymen have a third type

of radio station, then it is already necessary -e to conduct organizational measures where and to reach approximately the general radio communication system between all branches of the military, we also have enough problems with this, unfortunately, and when we talk about these first three machines that can actually be assembled there if we remember about all the promises of our countries to supply our partners to supply us with one or another model of tanks, about three hundred tanks , how important is it from the point of view of real power? tank brigades that we have today, how much is this an important addition to our tank potential . unfortunately, the brigades are not used

more faithfully. in a mechanized and motor-infantry manner, and in general, 300 tanks are 10 tank battalions, which are 10 brigades that have full tank armament, and in principle, 10 brigades are two offensive fists, in principle, two army corps, mr. mykola . thank you for your time, for your explanations, for your experience and for your work in support of the armed forces, and i would like to remind our viewers that the espresso channels or mykola salamakha are on the air , retired lieutenant colonel, an expert in the bronze industry and a project manager at the defense and industrial company energy 2000 a now we are in contact with a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine with the call sign sapran. from the very beginning of the large-scale invasion, the sapran took an active part in countering russian aggression as part of the calculation of one of our tanks as a gunner, and

then as an official he was engaged in mastering russian trophy tanks and bmp with their preparation for operation by our armed forces and analysis of the enemy's actions, that is precisely why it is very interesting to hear from him certain aspects of how the tactics and actions of the enemy are transformed from with which we should fight, both with our standard tanks and with those samples that we will receive from our western partners , dear, this is the plan. i congratulate you. the tactics of the enemy, what conclusions does the enemy draw and how should we take this into account in countering the actions

of the enemy? in the first stage, the enemy adhered to the concept of deep strikes and achieved some success in this, then when his saws were cut off and the attack was cut off, he was forced to abandon his equipment in honor of rearmament, abandon the happiness of the crews and retreat from the kyiv chernihiv direction to the sumy direction, but his confident actions were very strong in the donetsk direction, we had very tough battles there. let's put it this way, the enemy was used for its direct purpose in the fierce battles, it happened that our tanks were surrounded units drink our equipment, therefore, at the first stage, i will say that tanks are used very actively by both

sides of the conflict , if we are talking now about the current stage of hostilities. what russian tanks are firing and how the enemy is now trying to use its equipment in order to achieve at least some progress on the battlefield and that we should oppose such and such tactics of the enemy well there was another factor that came out during the second stage, so called. in my opinion, it was conditionally waiting from summer to autumn . due to the loss of employees, a sharp deterioration in the condition occurred because it was not tank equipment. in general, he deployed new units or units were equipped with parts taken from training units . parts were taken from you for storage, and

his condition deteriorated sharply, because he did not have tank equipment. at this stage, we made a great impression on the employee and undermined his spirit. after him, the employee took away or threw the equipment. the equipment is relegated to the second let's say that the helmet is now used, they adopted our tactics, you use it as a more armored self-propelled artillery installation after such an unsuccessful stage that ended with them sometime in the fall, they made conclusions and based on these conclusions, they changed the training of the personnel, the features are very with a spray of dust , the crews are necessarily formed, groups that have doses of e-e are equipped with both mobilized people

and those who have already participated in combat clashes, all units are debugged on the front line gradually adjusts to reverse sets and company sets, it is already based on national sets, replenishments are made in the battalion that have already been broken or left without equipment; moreover, at this second stage , the enemy has made a very strong conclusion according to the equipment, and at this stage, in the third stage, we will already say so it forms a unified approach to arming the military equipment of tank units. at this stage, they form a unit that is equipped with one type of equipment. as a rule, it is either a t-72 b3 model in the 22nd year or the 80s and 90s, they plan to use the t-90 only as part of the preparedness of the crews of trained

units that have already taken into account the shortcomings that were in the first and second stages of hostilities , when we talk about confrontation, it is possible to better our tanks and enemy tanks are there any duel situations there? how common is this practice? is it now from both sides of tanks ? long-range sniper e-e rifles are mainly used as such. what are the most common tactics today? er, where is the enemy’s equipment hiding and luring it out or destroying it on a rampart in the mountains, he tries to choose our tanks from the first line and our tanks, to be honest , there is practically none already on the first line, they are all assigned to the second line, they are used exotically

as fire teams, the enemy is massaging the equipment which at the first stages they managed the units very badly and there were cases when their units were killed and ran out of fuel, then at this stage they are, on the contrary, massively using 5-6 machines against one of our machine, if they leave it, they calculate it with the help of drones, and then it is simply killed like a mammoth, if we are talking about the fact that we should gradually switch to western-made tanks of western development, what conceptual advantages will this give to our units in the long run and how should we fill them in a shorter time this period of time until we switch to western models of tanks. this is a very difficult question because western tanks are significantly different in terms of technical

characteristics from our machine. apply as our tanks are used, they are long-arm tanks that are used exclusively to destroy an employee at a distance and as a patrician reserve , it is difficult to maneuver with them and some things need to be changed in the training of commanders and the use of these tanks, therefore this is a difficult issue for the implementation of the forces of ukraine when we are talking now about our tank fleet, which is available today, and what should primarily concern our military commanders in order to ensure the maximum effective use of those samples of armored vehicles that we today we have in the staffing schedule of our brigades in battalions, companies there and thieves, the presence of crews ready for combat operations

, this means the preparation of crews, the selection of personnel, training is the most important component. yes , this is the most important component, which is the weapon offered enough to quickly if you have a prepared crew and a prepared commander who knows how to use this crew, but if you don’t have a crew, then even a golden tank will be of no use to him , there will be no one who should be responsible for the selection of people who really can to be effective tankers is not a question of salary, it is a question for our personnel bodies and the general staff that it is

respected correctly. a long process and it must take into account many components not only in relation to the very technical indicators of a particular machine , given that weapons are an integral means of superiority on the battlefield, then actually we it is exactly what we should strive for, even if only for a fraction of the time, to ensure all the conditions that with the arrival of western tanks, we really ensured a breakthrough on the oboe field and carried out all those continuous actions that we now associate with the arrival of western aid . yes, we were indeed promised a significant number of tanks but it is necessary to prepare for this so that they will really be a decisive force on the battlefield, and as we see, there are enough complex problems, we have to solve them quickly , and this was the main military components of this program, er, the new programs of serhiy zhoritsy the director of the defense express company. and then the broadcast will be continued by olha leni with her chronicles of the information war. olya congratulates you. i congratulate