[000:00:00;00] there are a large number of these elements that can still be used, and here we need to continue this work on other things , well, first of all, of course, i call it, you know , the most humanitarian support of ukraine - it is the provision of weapons to us and because it is an opportunity to protect the civilian population through air defense due to the prevention of these attacks, the strengthening of air defense and , at the same time, the provision of tools to our military so that they can liberate the occupied territories of our people, and here, too, there are still uh, hmm, possibilities, maybe not in the format purely of the european union and bilateral when we are all happy that finally this closed circle on the donation of tanks has finally been broken, so now the question is whether all the countries of the european union that have a large number of tanks are ready to provide them to us , for example, during my last trip i

met with the corresponding head of the committee on european affairs and the greek parliament due to the fact that greece is one of those countries that has the largest stock of leopard 1 leopard-2 tanks for 300 leopard-2 tanks, which we really need that's why, that's why actually speaking, we have a lot to work on with different countries and despite the fact that he also represented the committee on european affairs, and i from european integration, the main topic of our conversation was leopard-2 tanks, which we would like to receive from greece ago we use all our opportunities, you know, in all the platforms where we are present in order to make the most of our knowledge about how this or that country, a member of the european union, can help us in an effective way. well, there really is a breakthrough in tanks and, in principle, we see that in every new military package that we hear about from one or another country and where the build-up

of artillery and heavy armored vehicles, and artillery shells, but at the same time, all this is still not enough for the situation to front to turn in our favor, the question arises whether, in principle, hm, there is a margin of safety in the european union in order to, well, at least support ukraine at this level, which we see now, when really a lot of things are announced. well, preferably of course, if only there were more and if it was such a more systematized aid and not a reactive one, for sure , my main appeal now to our partners on many international platforms is that we need to move away from the whole reactive policy and to be and stay all the time one step behind the russian federation

in providing ukraine with weapons so that we are one step ahead and that is, so that we are ready for the potential escalation that the russian federation will do to act in any case until we stop her aggression with our fists, she understands only the language of force, and i think that this potential is there for us. how does it hurt ukrainians that a large number of decisions take so much time, but we should also realize with you that there was an absolutely tectonic shift in the approaches of countries that did not consider it possible to provide any weapons at all to any country that is at war or in conflict, and this was enshrined there in their and in their founding documents in their laws. and now they are moving on to providing us with the entire range of weapons. i am convinced that we will achieve that

fighter jets will also be handed over to us. but i would only like to train our ukrainian pilots today and at the moment when it is approved this is a political decision, we were already there, we were already ready, not like with the tanks, that when the decision was made, then we started training those who can use them in an effective way, and here, er, i think we still have to make a lot of effort although i am convinced that having such a-a significant support of society and politics in democratic countries, they just pay attention to how much a -a public opinion is set in one way or another, so we need to keep this support of society, i am convinced that then we will be able to fully achieve those decisions that we really need from politicians , well, in the end, i want to ask you in general about your impressions , even from a recent trip to

the european union, whether they understand in principle what is happening here, because sometimes you know , there is an impression that the awareness of what it is the country with which they continue to trade diamonds, for example, that there is no such awareness, some do not understand, some do not really understand, and it is precisely about the fact that we have no right to get tired of explaining. we have no right to get tired of knocking on those doors that may not be fully open today one or the other on one or another issue and to prove and explain a-a that we are dealing with barbarians, we have a large number of friends within the free world and because it is not only about the european union that help us reach out to others but we should not limit ourselves to the free world, there is still a lot of work to be done in those parts of the world that

the russian federation continues to manipulate successfully, offering some monetary or, er , financial advantages, and we need to win their favor as well. - and in addition, the understanding that this is a black and white war, that it is evil against good and that it is important to stand on the side of good alongside ukraine, and we will conclude by thanking you

, mrs. ivanna, for this conversation, thank you all, god is with us , ukraine,

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. they are guaranteed to receive the armor of the lamps of the application of actions replaced to add energy to our country and light together during the occupation and during the information blockade for a person , information is more important than bread. i know that you were one of those who, together with mstislav chernov, were the last to work as a photojournalist as correspondents from the surrounded mariupol and in fact it was at the beginning of the large-scale invasion in march you were even able to transfer photo and video materials from there even how did you manage to do that how did you even get to mariupol before february 24 on the 22nd of the year, i will take it a little earlier that we worked in kharkiv

for a month before full scale and made material there about how the country was preparing. yes, and everyone there told us that it would not happen, that’s all the media creates such hysteria and so on, nothing will be why are you asking this and the authorities pointed it out to us? yes, they asked if there were hiding places there, if there were any things there that were preparing facilities for war there, and people were wondering where they could hide, but the closer to this date we understood that the war was approaching and how the front is warming up and where russia is looking for an excuse to to start a war and looking at the map, of course, where is mariupol? at the very bottom in a dead end. we understood that, in principle, this will be a place where if the russians enter from the crimea, and they always wanted to cut off ukraine from the sea of ​​azov

in order to make a corridor to the crimea, moreover, of course, they will go through mariupoli and mariupol will be such a place. and where will they learn to fight? and there or what city will be surrounded, so the idea was to be inside the city and if it is surrounded, then we have to show what is happening there, as mariupol met on february 24 do you remember this day, we arrived an hour before the war, ah, you know this. this road from bakhmut to mariupol went there almost all night, ah, and we were driving and there was complete silence, although the day before , they were shooting at targets and the artillery responded , we heard it was a few days before, and we saw that all the troops had already taken up combat positions. we understood that if there was

silence, there would be a new wave there. and everyone was waiting . well, then, how did the events develop, which was the most terrible during all this time when you were there what do you remember the most? you know, everyone asks the same question, what exactly, what exactly well, i think that everything was there and now it continues, and these horrors do not stop, there is no such moment that does not remain there, and i said, well, that's what it was. that 's all it was. it hurts to watch how they bring children, how maternity homes are shelled, residential neighborhoods are shelled, just ordinary people who are hiding and don't know what to do , have no information about what is happening, and it was scary to look into their eyes when they approach us journalists and try to find out information even though we are in the same place with them

in the same conditions without having normal communication and they approach us tell us what happened there, what happened there, is kyiv standing or kharkiv standing, they say that the russians have already occupied kyiv and kharkiv has been occupied and we told them that this is not true, this is misinformation, and we understood that during the occupation and during the information blockade, information is more important for people than bread, and people, when they heard that the ladders where the front line is now approximately passing, and it became a little easier for them here, and others said to me there is a brother in that village across from you, you don’t know there is the old crimea there, he is still there or not, what is going on there and it was there, it was difficult, people didn’t know where their relatives were, you don’t talk about what

really hurts and tragedies and terrible crimes, including war crimes, in which you have a voice and say a lot about what in particular , gain resonance who coiled the occupiers in mariupol did not remain so to speak known and did not gain resonance precisely because there was almost no one to tell about it because there was no information from there you agree with this and i will tell you so what we managed to film yes when we were in mariupoli is a very small part of what happened there, because i saw and heard a lot of aviators. yes, but i don't know where they were, and i saw some of the blows with my own eyes , but you can't capture it sometimes, even if it

happens very far away, but from you and you are not are you able to get there? and you were actually limited to some uh-uh small space, you couldn't move here and there in the city, so in which district were you mostly , look, we lived in the center, yes, in a hotel, uh, most of the time, and we also lived in a hospital we lived in warehouses with people, we also spent the night at an ambulance substation, and we lived in different places in order to show the story from the inside, how ordinary people hide a-a in shocks, or patients and hospitals who do not sleep in their wards, ana a little in the corridors on the floor and is there also a hiding place of people who moved from the ukrainian cities who were taken out of there and they are now there in the basement with two thousand people, yes, there is such a room, yes , there are three such rooms, and in total they received

five and a half thousand people, but it is mentioned the mariupol drama theater, which also served as a storage facility and was in the center of the city, is also a pain. because you can't . we moved in and out on the 15th. and the drama theater happened on the 16th, and when we tried to make material about the drama theater and investigate something, it was very difficult for us because there were no certificates or photos and video evidence of what happened there, because people who were leaving, they tried to erase everything from their phones so that no one could somehow get to them. yes, there . why are they just people and some people, but they try to erase it not only from phones and from your memory, but you also understand that now the russians are trying to create such an alternative picture of everything that happened in mariupol in the spring

of 2022 and they say that they talked a lot about the drama theater, that it was as if the military had been there once and blew themselves up twice and so on and so on, the widow contacted specialists, possibly international specialists who want to verify what was happening then and whether you were able to help them, well, look, i talked to some people, these are international agencies, who asked we are there, the konsta lakes, what is happening there and what were they doing my a-a reports and for this but i think that anyway it is our job well, anyway we can't be verified, but i saw a tank hit, i'm writing about it yes, and then we can find out what consequences it caused and recently, we have a photo where it hits a building, this projectile killed two elderly people, and

this is actually proof - this is direct proof of a war crime, because the tank directly, i saw these shots of the questions, is directly shooting at a peaceful building where people really are. we found witnesses and people who took the bodies from this floor, who hid them then under the house, then they found a grave there, that's it, yes. well, there's really a lot of things. well, so many things happened there that even you can't imagine what's there well, because mariupol is big and there are many districts, many buildings, and to be everywhere at once in such a short period of time, it is impossible , especially since there is no communication, you do not know something is happening, but it is flying everywhere, and what is flying into the center, what is on the outskirts such a question. and did you communicate with the russians there, with the russian soldiers who entered ? maybe at the checkpoints, how did they behave? if so

, look. yes, we saw the russian soldiers only at the exit, when we were already leaving mariupol for all these 15 checkpoints that we you drive through the whole of russia and you see how the face changes, how it changes, well, yes , you can see almost all the nations that were confiscated, how did you manage to leave at all, were there no such interrogations, any pressure on you from the side of the officers, maybe those standing at the checkpoints are trying to investigate there so that the information is superfluous, see, you know, i will tell you how we would leave with such the first days of evacuation, and it was you, there was still a little chaos and we chose the road they were all traveling on and

we went on another road and went on a straight line and not through berdyansk vasylkivka and we went to the orihiv labor camp and there they crossed the border, and the line from the state to us , as it were, sometimes documents were checked, and the trunk was checked, who was inside and so on, and they let you go, that is, you are actually lucky . well, i think so i was very lucky in general after mariupol, this feeling about what you said that you want to erase from your memory . are you already used to this as a professional ? every time you look at these photos, the video and what did you do there, send them to the editors for exhibitions and publications

? we had to highlight and work further, that's really what i think, and it's important that we left the living yes and chose from there i think that this is the main luck and everything else they did, i don't think it's that important one or two , it's not for me to judge yes, from this i consider my work in the context of a complete story one frame he describes everything then the plot is a story or even yes, i think that specifically in mariupoli, a lot of things were formed there that it is impossible to convey everything there in one frame yes, because there are also mass hidings there

, there are murders of children, there is a maternity hospital and ordinary citizens and so then everything is there if you could convey a complete picture in one shot, it is very difficult, and there are indeed shots that were published on many covers of newspapers, magazines, but for me personally , yes, i think that it is like one whole story . well, like one the image is like several images that are standing next to each other and cannot be viewed separately. in general, there is also a lot of talk about whether a journalist, a photo journalist, can remain objective during a war, and you generally agree with this opinion that he should be removed as much as possible objective, maybe even a little bit so cold yes, even then there was a tragedy around, it is possible in general, you have to try

to do it for sure and really and when you work in stressful conditions, when you work in extremely difficult circumstances, you have to keep a cool mind because we came here to peck and work and show emotionally for us too. it's hard to look at it. yes, but when editing, you think in advance how the other viewer will see it and show everything correctly, this is how to read. i think you should always have a cold mind. since when do you do you edit yes or do we work for an international agency yes and in international agencies they have high standards of journalists and all materials are checked very carefully before publication there is a fact of checking yes and when you cooperate with such agencies well then uh really the quality of

the material should be at the highest we are always equal, and that's why people who watch they should watch already verified information yes, and from people who really have a reputation yevgeny, well , during this war, many tragedies really happened, one of the last is the hitting of many such russian rockets in the dnipro i i know that you were there and also filmed and filmed. maybe something was left behind the scenes, er, some situations that you would like to talk about, because we saw, the whole country saw what was happening there, but we still need to look around sometimes, i will tell you what we saw there was a lot of tragedy and on the 14th there on the fourth we saw that there was a hit in the building and so on. it is true that if all of us were pushed, we were in kramatorsk at that time and it took about 4-5 hours to go there, and that is why we immediately left and packed our things and we left

, of course we weren't there right away, and we were too have already seen more of the work of the ministry of emergency situations and how the liquidation is going and the recovery of bodies and people who were injured there, several of them were taken alive. after that , people who came and volunteers from nearby houses were taken alive. and this it is probably better to ask the journalists who were there immediately and immediately after. are you by my side ? i would have already been there during the liquidation and already seen how the bodies lie on the debris. how a hand sticks out from under the rubble and it was really scary to watch . you understand that this a is not a military man the object is a building, if it is almost like the one in which i myself live, and it hurts to look there

, because you understand that we are all in danger yevhen i know that you periodically go abroad as an employee of an international agency and show your photos when traveling all over the world, how is the world reacting now , is it not tired of such terrible news from ukraine, you know the editors of international newspapers, magazines and agencies, yes, of course they show what is happening in their countries and of course there is an international column and a new one where they show other countries, yes, including because ukraine is the main topic of international news, for a while at the beginning of the war, ukraine kept to itself , what everyone read, yes, of course, the longer time goes by, the less attention is paid to ukraine, unfortunately, but if our task

yes, there and now, to hold and tell what is happening in the country, even those events that have already passed, but still to come and make exhibitions so that people can come and see exactly what is happening, because our citizens have seen all these photos, because they follow what is happening in our country, and people which for example, they live very far away in the usa, there, for example, or in germany, somewhere far away , they can and have not seen, but only some fragments and they can come there to an exhibition or a festival. and where an event is held there and see and talk with us there including i know that you are going to go to sundays in the united states of america what kind of performance will it be or what kind of event will it be that you will present it is a very famous final it is an independent film festival and there will be

a premiere of the film in mariupol 20 days this is mine colleague mstislav chernov, with whom you were and with whom you were at the beginning, we shot all this together, i was the photographer, he was the cameraman, and there was also producer vasylisa stepanenko with us in mariupol, and we shot all this, and he completed this film together with the studio will have a premiere at the studio. we want to go. tell us that this is a very important movie that the whole world should see. thank you very much and i wish you all the best and i want your film to be seen there by as many people as possible, because really the whole world has to know the truth thank you for what i thank you. thank you. victory is with you. tell me honestly , how are you