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i start talking about it some such puzzle elements of a certain back of your background, so i will ask a very, very primitive question, but what was your childhood like, mr. dmytro, were you born in i grew up in kyiv, too, tell me a little about it. i had a happy childhood in kyiv, except that the pioneers didn't want to accept me for a long time. but again, i do n't know if this is a dramatic fact of my biography. well , because i was a brawler, that's a must. there was a procedure for everyone. and i was already such a hooligan, i studied well, but i was a hooligan . i fought a lot. i played various sports , and so on. and so, in general, i was engaged in the literature of the middle group of the kindergarten . well, how did i start to write the first lyrics, and then from the age of 11, my first crush made poetry

a permanent part of my life. i fell in love with a girl who was 14. it was also a hopeless relationship, because you understand that a 14-year-old girl is absolutely not interesting. the boy, instead, i suffered something there, i thought and wrote out my feelings and began to read other poets, first the classics, then contemporaries, and in this way somehow substitute what i write and what i read. and what exactly did you read then in your childhood? or behind it, well, the extracurricular program, because my childhood fell on the time when thick magazines were very popular. when they started to publish the authors of the renaissance that was shot, when the first publications of vasyl stus appeared in the evening kyiv official press, remember the huge selection was there for the entire spread and so on, that is, a lot of things could simply be found in the library in the reading room because, well, it was there to buy. it was all impossible, but i went to the library in

the reading room and read the latest issues of magazines the bell of the homeland kyiv and bought also there such editions are new otherwise completely like world modern it not only began to appear in ukraine and it was good that you studied that is at school you also had good success except for behavior i understand yes yes well until a certain period let's say yes, then i transferred to a mathematics school on the left bank and there the grades worsened because the requirements were greater . the mathematics school resonates with me. i also finished the physics class at school, but we learned about poems and about sports. when did you start to play sports, not just sports, not just a hobby or something. well, i used to do it all the time, that is, to participate in competitions. well, somewhere in the fourth grade, it was freestyle wrestling, and then a passion for martial arts. it changed to a passion for karate and kickboxing already in student age

i have already started to perform at the adult level and in several sports. let's say that i won medals at competitions and at the city, then at the all-ukrainian level. well, then at the international level, that is, kickboxing , cossack duel, karate and various other related ones types of martial arts that are similar in terms of rules, that is, where there is striking technique of arms and legs, elements of throwing technique, you said in one of your interviews that sports greatly increase self-confidence, in particular martial arts, by developing this trait, this skill, i suppose how does it work, but since you say that you started doing this, you started doing it because i wonder if you were a self-confident child. i think i was a confident person and needed some more physical confirmation. let's say because, well, at this time, i don't know why we had there are a lot of fights at school, there are always some kind of conflicts . when, at this age, sympathy

for certain girls began to appear. what were the first such school relationships, then the phrases and the need and necessity and the request were certain, that is, in i was constantly fighting with someone. as far as i can remember, during my school years, i always had someone there in the corridors. during the breaks after school, there were some fights, so that when i go home, there are several guys waiting for me there because i have a girl there with some of the parallel class were smiling there they wrote notes to take revenge on me for this and teach me, that is, it was a regular thing, and the free struggle here helped me a lot. and for some reason, i could still imagine that if you are an excellent student from kindergarten, you write poems and this is such an attempt to assert yourself, maybe that is that the boy had excellent grades and even wrote poems. i wasn't quite an excellent student. let's just say that i always had a four in drawing, which is not given, then it is not given, eh

. so, so, so, in general, he studied well, but you can't say that he was any kind of exemplary. not as a guy well, a normal, normal teenager from the 90s there well, you are describing about your childhood, i see you somewhere like that now, i have the very first question that arises. okay, a person who has so much in his life writes poems, comments on sports. he probably plays sports. even managerial production activity also brings its own life, and now you also travel to the east of the country , in particular to the front as a correspondent, and it all revolves around. i am an active person. i can understand how to combine it all. by the way, i don’t have any questions. i understand that this versatility is exactly what gives your activity such a variety of colors , but where do you get the resources for this? you have a family . you have two more daughters.

how do you renew it? he takes it at all well, it's kind of strange to me when something doesn't happen, that is, constantly some let's say this, movement generates additional movement , that is, he appears for winning , that is, the more you communicate, you travel, you present a book of poems, you go to war, you make some reports the more different events happen in your life that you are genuinely interested in, the more they appear later. and somehow i 'm getting used to it , that is, i'm very comfortable . on the contrary, sometimes i need to somehow breathe in, breathe out, think, er, even regarding the same literature, yes , about the way of speaking about the intonation that resonates with me right now, sometimes it is

necessary, but still, i need movement very, very it's important, er, that's it, diversity, versatility, it's very well read in your collection , if we're talking about a bookmark, because now it's a vaccine book that you're presenting, and tell me about it. i see it this way, i understand that you started writing it before the full invasion is not only the poems that were written now. how long did you work on it, what was the period of time? i felt that these texts began to be written somewhere from the 19th to the beginning of the 20th year and the collection was already compiled and should be published in march or april i also planned that her presentation would be such a warm tour of summer terraces in establishments when women would come in some light dresses where they would drink cocktails

, wine, well, after all, some of the texts were large layer tests, they were some romantic poems about love about relationships and mostly well, i'm already used to the fact that the majority of the audience is still at least women and girls, and i thought to myself that it would be something beautiful for piano or saxophones, some kind of project for myself. new texts appeared, completely different, in fact, and there was a question whether to publish them separately or to integrate the whole book, but i thought that putting it off there for a year or two doesn't seem quite right to me, and they somehow fell on me, again, somewhere they cut here is a complete book, but in another case. well, the war also broke into our life and simply cut it into pieces , everyone felt it already , it was not the same as it was.

life personally personally is like this it turned out to be a book, and i started writing texts and found my place in the book. these unrhymed poems are predominant , and like all verlibres, they are different poems from those that made up the main layer of texts of the entire book. uh, this is the same botonic weave, unnatural for me, internal, i was looking for some references, i found them for myself, uh, i really liked the texts about the war, uh, the seed mountain of an american poet of bosnian origin somewhere it resonated with me but again my texts are not exactly the same, they are like story books, story poetic reports, you can even say that because all the stories, all

the stories that have been told, in these poems about the war , these are real stories, er, the poem spring in the greeting is about how we filmed the story about the demining of irpen, even before the demining, i drove there in my own car , the operator and i, when we went to meet us, a man came out and told how the russian military lived in his house, how a tank drove into his yard. the indian ocean is a story that did not become a plot because the speakers refused to speak on camera afterwards, but it is really about a girl who stayed with her grandparents in mariupol at that time, her mother was on vacation, flew to india, and when she returned, the war began and she then took them away from of the occupied territory because they were taken out , taken there. that is, this is a real story, people at the presentations

. some lyrics about relationships was also difficult for me because it had already been written and it was also included in this book and many people need it too, now i understand that we went with a tour in zhytomyr, we were in kyiv in ivano-frankivsk in lviv in lviv in ternopil, in other towns, and everywhere, there is a demand for something so bright, for something so transparent, so light, after all, a person cannot live under the constant pressure of information. you still combine it all into one i fully support the collection, that we need this little ray and we need to distract ourselves, but on the one hand, the book begins, uh, we and we understand that it is already a full-scale invasion, and then there is also about school love and about any such relationships in general, so

romantic, lyrical, easy, where there is not even a hint of it, but it's all under one cover. did it not cut you? no, it doesn't because the book begins with poems that were written before the war and there were such very, very such as i understood some premonitions , some prophetic even moments as you turned out right now the first lines in march are we thinking or in april when the stars are like knife wounds find the words that someone needs find the words while everyone was alive it seemed in the 19th year why was it written and now it sounds completely different just about a full-scale invasion here i am as a reader i read, or for me the beginning is purely war and then a hop and such a transition immediately to a non-lyrical topic . for me, it’s a little bit not quite immediately there, after all , there are philosophical lyrics that do not touch on any combat operations, but it is still part of our life. we live, we not only think about

war, yes, we go on dates, we communicate with people, we love in the end, and i think that we reserve the right to love the truth and refuse it, well, it would be unnatural for me, that is, if we do it purely, there are the lyrics of a military warrior you know, like a project, maybe it should be singled out, but i would like it to be a book, or actually a bookmark, which is what it’s called , because it’s a recording of certain episodes , each of which is unique and each of which should be returned to because we we will never you already this day and at this age we will never we will not return there after the war to live our lives there 25 27 there 42 or 54 so it will never come back that's why it was important for me that there was something uh-uh absolutely-

it's completely different and in terms of mood , too, so that it doesn't all sound on one note, it's clear, it's about how you write poems in general, and about a full-scale invasion, you didn't have such a stupor of some kind of crisis, i'm from many artists, with whom we hear this, and not only writers and writers, when you're in a state of shock and you can't do anything, it's like you can't even imagine what it was like for you. it's normal. i think that many people have experienced something similar. for myself, what did i do? i received accreditation from the ministry of defense to work in a combat zone and went. actually , first to kyiv region, then to chernihiv region, then to kharkiv region. then to donetsk region and so those stories began to appear and which needed not only a reporting journalistic speech but also a poetic reinterpretation, a kind of metaphysical

history of this war, a metaphysical reportage, if you can say so and in another way i mean, i started talking about all these things, it was important for me , that's how i found intonation, it's very important that it wasn't a fake intonation, that it didn't sound like some kind of conjuncture, that it was so very real inner statement because, no matter how much, the responsibility is on everyone, there is that negativity that we bear , and i, as a writer, was well aware that this is the moment to lie. you cannot lie. obviously you you say that it is very important this statement is very important here i cannot argue with you and i categorically agree that art especially in times of war is very important at the same time you i will refer to the words of one of your

interviews not so long ago it was you said no sports, culture, and literature can't change anything. and here, too, it seems difficult to argue, er, something can change . weapons stop war, not culture and not literature . yes, for sure, but at the same time, it's an opportunity to express yourself, it's an opportunity to sound loudly on platforms and touch people's hearts with art precisely because the news, no matter how terrible they are, sometimes they can't break through . there's a layer there, what do you think about it ? maybe you can explain better what you meant . well, i meant, of course, that ani the most beautiful poems and not the best music will not be able to stop a dictator who has decided to attack a neighboring country in this way, obviously they will not be able to, and we have already been convinced of this

, i think that more than once, but at the same time i believe in the power of the word and in the power of poetry, in the power of literature and art as such, because it seemed that from the 14th to the 15th year we traveled a lot with various volunteer projects to the east of ukraine, and when they had another election and they voted for extraordinary people again, you think, well, it seemed that you drove up and told some we have meetings, communication, books, we bring concerts, and still the results are like this, well, not exactly about ukrainians in such a perspective, but on the other hand, it still affects everything, you know, this year they left kramatorsk. i really like to tell this story the story people were leaving kramatorsk, they stopped a little and the grandmother came to us who brought out such a cold cold compote and i was with the military and she almost grabs my hand and says you will come back you won't leave us and she almost cries, that is, in kramatorsk, which

many people there call with whom there is a living person who simply goes out and does not let you go, at least at the level of some kind of heartfelt emotional reaction, does not let go, that is, it somehow affected it, obviously. we performed there in starobilsk in the same matchmaker in the same kramatorsk at one time in toretsk e-e in happiness. i think that it somehow happened that it has some effect because the youth, in my opinion, in the eastern regions of ukraine, it is now openly pro-ukrainian in the majority to the majority, therefore, sports and culture can still change something. why did this phrase still affect me so much? i understand that maybe i attached something of my own to it, and maybe it was just my mood when i listened to this conversation, i

read it as if you it is about what culture and sports can be outside of politics and i don't think that's what you think about it, well, culture and sports can be outside of politics , but obviously when it comes to, for example , major sports competitions where the anthem is played, where the flag is raised, it's no longer a question of something outside something. yes, when it comes to sports at some local level, about physical education, about personal rules. i know that there are hardly any political ones here, but when it comes to big sports, politics appears here in one way or another, and the bigger the person it seems to me that she avoids this awareness, because she is doing worse to herself in which and here are certain perspectives. we have an example there , er, of the same vasyl lomachenko and oleksandr usyk, and the reaction of both at the beginning of the war was underground attention, these are people from several million

an audience with a huge audience, there is no writer, director, ukrainian actor, there is no such audience as these boxers have, and it was very important that oleksandr usyk's statement from the collection of huge funds for the armed forces of ukraine was so timely that there was such a reaction and at the same time these pauses that were vasyl lomachenko, how they were perceived by society. i think that the number of his fans in ukraine has decreased many times . it has decreased because of his moderate, very public position outside of politics . things there eh that's all it all worked against him in the end and for an athlete how to screw up not only the result but also eh communication now with people and fans is very, very, very important not only in the context of advertising contracts eh but also much wider. well, when it comes to athletes, it seems to me that i, on the one hand, also understand this thesis and

this objection, saying that he is an athlete, do not endow him with the functions of a politician with the functions of some enlightenment , that he should carry the enlightenment of the masses, he is doing his job, but at the same time you are talking about this. these are huge numbers, this is a huge audience of fans who look at this person as a role model and listen to his opinion. that is, it is also a responsibility to broadcast it, and it is very difficult to disagree, and you have already talked a lot about this and we i understood that now you travel as a correspondent. this is my main main line of work. what else do you do now? this is really the main one, because i was the host of the olympic studio. here , together with you, rosina, a champion with an education in rhythmic gymnastics, we led the olympic programs, but in the future, somehow, sports. well, i completely

left. for me, the results of the last few seconds left for some there . to make portraits of soldiers and talk with them and tell about them to the general public, this is the undisputed hero of our time , and therefore it is clear that you want to know more about them . i am partially engaged in volunteer activities , and now, in connection with the fact that the book came out unexpectedly, because it was postponed, and i was told by the publishing house starovyla that well, we still decide to publish this collection of poems, a little i am engaged in her presentation in ukraine and i hope that in the future there will be performances in odesa and kherson, eh, in almost every edition of the program

, we hear the cultural instinct from the guests this thesis that the war in ukraine and ukraine in general changed the world and is changing it in the future too it is impossible to argue with this for sure, but hmm, every time someone singles out those changes that are important for him or her or that are noticed first of all, you were in the west of the country presenting your book, you travel to the east of the country for work, what changes do you see or do you see them? what about you uh it affects well, what you see is the recent level of the fact that there are many more translations of ukrainian literature and ukrainian poetry into different languages ​​of the world, that is, i can post the text on facebook, it's already there. the next day it will appear there in lithuanian, polish, spanish, english, and so on. then in japanese, including uh, regarding performances and changes in people, you know

i performed in kharkiv at the kharkiv festival of the five , serhiy zhadan didn't invite me and a few musicians, we also performed there uh, uh, what i liked in kharkiv despite that that at that time the city was still being shelled so quite often quite often quite densely there were even a lot of people so the event took place in bomb shelters but there were just a crowd of people who came to listen and not only there to listen to music, but at a concert they listened to poetic performances - hundreds of people followed the discussions on political and cultural topics. there were a little less people, but they were still there, they filled the hall and it was noticeable, this is impressive that there seems to be some kind of information such a constant flow, and on the other hand, people have the need for such cultural events, and poetry is the q-sentence

of everything, it is a path that, so to speak, leads to the awareness of certain processes, and it is such a weapon of direct action for confident understanding, again, because a lot of things are concentrated there and in order to go with the speech you don’t need a lot for the poet, you just need to take it and go, it’s still not a concert, which is for a festival. yes , there is also a plus in this, i was at the very end already concluding our conversation, uh, during this conversation, we tried to understand how you are built, that is, how how arranged it in yours system because again, i am not exaggerating and i am not exaggerating if i say you are very active in life you smile you have a lot of energy you are fast i understand that these are traits probably yours but at the same time i know how to work with news in the country where it continues

war and being inside and communicating with these people it cannot ricochet and just bounce away from you without leaving a trace how do you deal with that? uh show your emotions, but i am sure that some tips on how to keep yourself are very, very appropriate for our audience. well, i am used to switching and somehow blocking some internal processes that see what can lead to destruction, including when i was traveling and filming reports i spoke with people from the occupied territories. at a certain moment , i realized that i needed to take a break and i went to the military. well, i wasn't on the front line . to be honest, it's psychologically more comfortable to talk to the military. interview than to listen to a constant flow of these stories of people who became victims of the occupation. that is, it is important. it is very, very important now, but there is a certain

psychological overload when i understand that i am no longer what i am not bringing out, but that it is me triggers are constantly catching up, well, that’s how it was, that’s why i think that there can’t be universal recipes here, everyone has to find some kind of internal balance . i ’ll finally find my internal balance . is lazutkin's dacha is carried out when, instead of chekhov's surrender, there will be an artistic residence in gurzuf for ukrainian writers, artists and musicians, as well as for representatives of the friendly countries of lithuania, poland , etc. somehow introduce into the ukrainian context thank you, please, my name is sofia chilyak and today we are talking with the ukrainian designer oksana