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[000:00:00;00] did not directly involve nato in some way in the war, for example, a theoretical option if russia supports you too strongly, the interminational situation in ukraine will not lead to the idea that it is necessary to use nuclear weapons, as one of the options, therefore, the west helps, but in the end it does not you perceive the war as if it were your own, i know very well what happened to me during the second world war when i , the united states viewed it as their own war and participated in the war themselves, how they launched the industrial war, how much they they left it possible for the soviet union now. this is still not within those frameworks because the smell, although it helps him, this is still not his own war, therefore, in general, these rumors are that it is possible that the chief wanted to be an intermediary in order to go to negotiations territories in the exchange world. even if this is actually not true. at least one of the highest
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western officials cannot have the same view once the west is filled in. that is why he does not give everything that he wanted to be, but roman is not for you. it seems that this line of the west is somehow not always taken into account. ukraine or ukraine, on the contrary, wanted the west to be more of a real participant in this war, and the western countries all the time, for a year now, let me understand that no, they will help as much as they can, but they cannot participate. by the way, the soviet union also did the same thing during the war in vietnam, it gave weapons but did not participate . do you want to fight the americans ? in afghanistan, many of us were offended by the hungarian prime minister viktor orbán, and rightly so, but there was a lot of pity. a very similar event gave weapons to the afghan rebels who fought against the soviet invaders. but he said that
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how you will fight him is a question of your price, well, that's interesting. and in vietnam and in afghanistan, the afghans of viet nam noticed it. everything in afghanistan, i argue, and that is why i dare to give these examples, yes, well , weapons were given in sufficient quantity, and the vietnamese and afghans had weapons so how much they didn't order even probably even more and more especially i can't be like that eh i know eh vietnam but gav- the afghan war eh i know well and perfectly imagine what kind of weapons the afghan had eh there without a foot in one robe but with the interior and quite such a large amount later, if the west treated us even in the same way and gave us what we asked for, we dealt with the russians
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with smaller losses and earlier, at the very least, that is , it was as if to do it in the summer, and before the announcement of mobilization and we have already solved the question now the question has been resolved, what to do with reparations at the border of the 91st year, that is, it is going. well, at least i see , at least, a deliberate delay in the transfer of weapons, that is, the retention of a certain front line is precisely regulated, this retention is regulated by supplies, but eh the retention is also due to the death of our servicemen. very many wounded . good. we have fewer guys than the russians who left us, but many wounded
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later . you obviously won't have a front there are different methods to be performed, but nevertheless, this is what they are, drying up the reserve in human reserves, and what is more, you are professionals, this is a specific motivated person who performed military tasks now, with each of them every month, more and more will have to be taught to the daughter, time for preparation, that is, it is not a very smart approach , at least it is much worse than someone who is worse than the same afghans or what feeds us, i want you, mr. david to ask about what is happening now with the israeli position, so we heard eh did not hear read, more precisely, you are a secret to israel, the words of the prime minister were mimimyryahup, which he allegedly said during a meeting with the president of france , manel macron, about the fact that he is allegedly ready for
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certain military supplies to ukraine, this was the first time that it was heard even at the level of the media, even at the level of the informed sources, this means that the israeli position is changing. if so, why is the continuation of the interview not so much? but brezhne vremya, because there is none at all, before the elections, he said that if the question comes back to you , he will reconsider the question of the possibility of supplying weapons to ukraine, and now this question is actually being considered. ideas in an interview with a mini conversation with makron , he did not say that i am ready to
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ask questions позитиельные ответы that is, that far is not the same thing, and the distance to there is still far. although, in principle, there are some moves , president zelensky said back in october that there is a trend, but in general, in the near future , there will indeed be a change in the israeli position from the second the parties can say the same thing, since the war has its own dynamics. and now it is possible to consider the impossible russian threat to the israelis, and siri is already partially changing, plus there is no doubt that it is political. the pressure of the united states on israel in order for israel to expand its aid to ukraine has cooled down to humanitarian
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aid, including the military, and for now , it is still far from a fact, indeed, in the near future , some kind of change will occur. some dynamics, but unequivocally so far it is possible to say that, at least for the time being, israel's position will ask for an encirclement in ukraine that is far from reaching ukraine's desires. in general, this is how do you think this iron dome makes any sense at all, if we speak purely theoretically, then first of all it is clear that a general political solution is needed, something will be provided if , again, the bracket will actually be such a solution, then already israeli ukrainian specialists even we will decide together even if it is about er, complexes against missile complexes, it is not a fact that an iron dome is specifically needed in israel, there are many others who see barack autumn, er, spider, and so on, it is not
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a fact that an iron dome is specifically needed by itself, an iron dome in ukraine could, that is, it will again be the necessary amount, but how would i bring a certain amount, but how would i bring a certain amount to use, such as anti-missile defense? projectiles and rockets with a range of 4 to 70
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km , recently it has been expanded somewhat from a military technical point of view, it is far from a fact that this is actually nonsense, if something is worth it, i’m talking in simple words, it’s also different domes , you don’t know that it doesn’t fit at all, but for ukraine, let’s say the second threat map does not coincide with the threat map of israel because it goes to this is why we need to look at specific threats and protect ourselves from them. maybe we can use panorama. with such systems
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, our border cities are covered by an iron dome. the border of 5 regions of russia is bryansk, kursk, belgorod, voronezh, rostov, the front line is 1,000 km long, and it will be held by us, as israel is working now, and with the iron dome, including threats to ourselves, in the next 10 years 10, probably until they fall apart, russia will hold this line of defense from there from the east, it will fly that popal is called later, eh, the iron dome will definitely fit, and david is right here, the optimal option is now to use it in the area of the same a-a kherson kharkiv, zaporozhye, that is, at this distance. and here is a sighting system like heads, really, it would
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be for us now on the moss, here are the alleged political threats, a very good complex, and here it was, it was quickly built into the general system of anti-aircraft defense. we have it, at least it is stated that that we will get the patriot eh from the empties here headsby of course to the letter well and in israel there is a very good tank eh mirkova is an excellent tank and in principle there is and this issue will be solved ho- someday it will certainly bring great benefit to battlefield thank you thank you, let's go to henrimani from the novel dawn for participating in this part of our program, we promised at the beginning that we would talk about not what happened at the summit of the european union and we would talk about it with the address of kubilis , a member of the european parliament from lithuania, the former prime minister of the country and the head of the international unity together for the sake of ukraine greetings mr. andrusiv good evening , let's try to understand, in principle
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, this is the meaning of such an unprecedented thing . it is very rare that an almost complete visit of the european commission to kyiv happens, too, and sometimes it happens that the european commission goes somewhere, and here is today's summit of the european union, but what are the specifics against the background of all these beautiful solemn meetings ? she gives a strong signal and a signal about the integration of ukraine into the european union, in my opinion, it is very necessary, not important. i said very loudly that the integration of ukraine and
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the european union, nato - a stand of leopard fillets or abramshot for uh, for the military, well, what about ukraine , and what, uh , you can? the party was very pleased with the message that president zelenskyi gave, especially about the fact that the negotiations at the expense of the membership are really due to us often already this year , it sounded very strong and i think that it will er, the meaning is really in this an integration processor that er where ukraine should convince the european union action garage to better explain effectively
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and in some planets there is er i think some parallel as ukraine er achieved that the european countries of the european union finally agreed especially germany would be for the supply of milliopards although there a year and a half ago they said that it was simply impossible, so ukraine should be european so that the integration should take place more ambitiously and much faster, i said that for this it is necessary for the europeans or the west to create something like an infrastructural rammstein, because this profession will also be controlled by a strong political will, since the supply of weapons also requires a military rammstein. president zelensky says that ukraine deserves part of the negotiations of entering the european
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key in 2023 , how realistic do you think this is, we are also saying this to the european parliament. there is no point in negotiations, and well, bureaucrats. they are always, er, in the game union , it is so effective, everything is complicated, and it is more difficult to do it, but er, start negotiations, er, it is necessary, both for ukraine and for the production of the union, because the integration of ukraine the european union is necessary not only for ukraine, but also for the european union itself, because the integration of ukraine , the upper chechen union, brings not only economic benefits, both for ukraine and for production, the main one brings much
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greater benefits, such as geopolitical changes in the entire european continent, what is really needed is the most important strategic one today, eh. what is the reason for the labor continent and the beginning of the negotiations ? eh, it will be noted that new tools have appeared, eh, how to measure the progress of ukraine. for m-m reforms and if you look at our experience in the experience of central europe in the late 90s , when we started negotiations for lithuania , let's say it took 3 years to finish the negotiations for poland, this country it took more than four years, that is, the beginning of the negotiations, then you can give a very good report. when ukraine can
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, by the way, be a crappy european film according to our calculations, according to the calculations, and the one who is recorded in various documents of the european parliament , such as if the negotiations begin this year eh, and the negotiation will end, the ratification of the documents will end before the end of this decade, that is , ukraine can become a member of the european union in such a steep way. in the 29th year, i entered the european parliament, so i would then be the leader of the european countries of the european union, which are still eh well , how skeptically he is not very cautious about eh prospects of ukraine eh real prospects for ukraine to become members of of the persian period, i remember how last
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year president macron said that the negotiations could last several decades. i think that this was a big mistake of the european union. if the european union had not made noise, i would have concentrated political pain and allowed the entire process of integration will drag on for another 10 years. and tell me, what is the mystery of the bureaucracy? now they say that the european commission is quite optimistic. but the national government, first of all , is happening in germany, france, they are not in a hurry , it is spoken, it is measured . econovoy, first of all, these countries as the main economies of the european union, as far as in principle this is what kind of bureaucracy
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is now with which you dispute the right to take the extra ones. he is the ruler, he is the representative of the european union, and of course, at this level , we see different different approaches . caution and all this must be done even by a person very well what wonderline is such a strong leader in this direction eh and i think that eh is just such a good combination of president zelensky and who wonderline can achieve a lot but
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you just have to convince me there are different capitals in this regard, and we are ready. here is our created coalition. and you know about ukraine, we will work in this direction, and of course , it is very good that the government of ukraine . you told me what they are ready to do. two reforms are necessary for joining the european union at the highest speed , but working here is still not enough on all sides regarding the danger of corruption . how do you think it affects european integration? are related to specific facts in europe, they always treated it warily well , to be honest, ukrainian corruption is not alone in europe, we see the
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strange corruption situations of the european union, they are already there, and we no, you know the corruption of people, even in the uzhgorod parliament, here is a wonderful story. yes, they must somehow see their problems here, but of course in ukraine it is necessary to do ... will win not only on the military front, but can help win on this front in the fight against corruption, the last actions that we saw, of course , are the actions of the structures of the special structures of ukraine, just gives hope that um, that 's some concessions to whom - then they will not be in
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ukraine and not from the other side. i would like to see that ukraine 10 years ago there 15 years ago we saw what happened to georgia itself when president mikhail saakashvili was able to make a very big leap in the fight against corruption and uh, in this plan, let's say according to the indexes, the so-called index, uh, the transfers are only in our chest , which was then somewhere, that's where we are today, all that remains is ukraine, there the number of the twentieth place suddenly jumped in a few years to such places where in the chest there where the whole line will be overtaken at the beginning countries of the european union, the same thing is happening now, let's say, in a country like armenia . i think that here ukraine needs its own wind, and what kind of actions are still needed, and not only this, let's give some new structures
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... regardless of how it would be necessary to look at how, let's say, the business is brought out by this variety of such administrative regulations that do not create opportunities for corruption and any such actions that are necessary , it is simply necessary not to create conditions for them here is the interesting story. when talking about negotiations with the european union, this is a claim of national governments. do you remember how the negotiations with north macedonia and the european union were postponed for 10 years at the beginning because of the position of greece, then because of the opposition in bulgaria, they changed the consonant name, now there are discussions about history, other countries of the european union had to come up with some insane literary constructions in order to somehow satisfy bulgaria's claim to create
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some mechanism that would allow starting these ukraine's negotiations are here skeletons of the closet yes, this is not ukrainian skeletons of the closet and you said to the skeleton in the closet its neighbors are above the roofs to politovskomu as soon as the situation stabilizes and real negotiations begin i think without creating a historical commission with poland and without creating some kind of what happened in the western lands of ukraine in the 1930s and 1940s. no ukraine will enter any european union. even if 50 years pass, i'm sorry. i don't understand how to overcome this, i say in private, it worries me even more than any economy, but...
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yes, you are right. indeed , here again is the bad experience that showed the last one. degracii he is techno-orange and we are all these stories that you talked about macedonia and there, er, and there we will say greece or bulgaria , all this is also very, very disturbing to us , but with er, on the same side of course, there are many conversations about the fact that the system of decision-making within the european union should be changed and the right should be filled with the right should not remain because this right is up to
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the top how did foreign ones do it? предведении таксы или или well voprosakh eh, eh, acceptance of new screens, eh, whose right is the veto on the european court , it will definitely stop with such a tool of blackmail by medved. the veto and it is simple how we call a qualified decision to accept decisions with the tools of the qualified majority, but not everyone is invited to these reforms, too, so that
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the european one is located in such a to some, the planet is in crisis, but i think that, again, um, with uh, real geopolitical circumstances, uh, a video of the struggle of ukraine , uh, and they believe that ukraine has a lot of uh, international authority, time to come up with what in general such actions, we can touch on the fact that you will be put to the test of faith , the reforms that need to be carried out will be arbitrary, and to what extent do you think it is at all possible that someone in the union will refuse to send a letter, and they have been saying this for 10 years, too? -15 the constitution failed
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the european union, proposed by the ordinary president of france, volyn, is a treasure worthy of the vozzyul, so that the relevant commission, all this was simply opened in referendums. but the european union will accept the treaty from the very beginning in the 57th year, lives according to the predictions that were made by the genre of coins . the european one is what will be our own and will be created by this , this will be what we call the european toyota, and this was confirmed by the last 43
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created a front act now we are living er russia's war against ukraine is virgin and very large deep geopolitical credit of the european union and because of this crisis the europeans are able to leave being er pain strong as p- is taking place important the geopolitical solution is also related to the expansion of the missile union and the integration of electric trains of ukraine itself into the european union, so i somehow do not lose hope , they give me some vague temporary ones, even i then say that it is necessary to remember the times the grand duchy of lithuania and start thinking about the union
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of ukraine and lithuania and then we have experience . how did it unite? how exactly did germany become the european union? the problem is that we don’t have any borders with you at all, we need to unite with poland, then i don’t think that in lithuania or in ukraine there will be much supporter of such a union . we are on the air my greetings to everyone from espresso to your attention news release and we start with such a hero now another big exchange took place at home ukraine freed 116 defenders from russian captivity
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