[000:00:00;00] here we have a small iranian factor. how powerful will it be in the future? in the future, it is not ukraine against russia for its territory for the release of the delivery of drones, the possible delivery of missiles . how much will this affect the situation on the battlefield? the party of drones and the americans, yes, clearly convey the information that if there is an idea to put er missiles of political medium radio action, will it be the americans ' red man? here is the last election event, in my opinion, it is necessary to inform how is the fact that iran planned similar actions and some unknown states inflicted apparently mutual fire damage on the targets of veronika that were connected to a similar

number, now the wound turned out to be a record. emblems also appear, uh, well, a priori, accordingly, iranian people are much more reasonable than they sometimes ask to show, and i think that uh, some things they will continue to do, like, for example, i don’t miss that the supply scam, they continue более серьёзные виды размение верное оны паст бутуся already understanding that these are not toys that they will be hit and will be hit very strongly thank you gregory tamar military historian captain of the israel defense forces retired thank you for participating in direct communication with the studio was well and now the break is literally short two minutes and we will return to our to our analytical studies about so that ukrainians do not think about so that they do not speak in the first place, war, war and our

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, we will continue our broadcast on the 16th: 03 on the clock saturday today is the fourth of february khrystyna yaskiv and yehor chicherina and now we will talk about how difficult it is to overcome the russian federation in the information field, especially in the conditions of certain restrictions that are in effect with us on communication oleksandr glushchenko, telecommunications expert , congratulations, mr. oleksandr slava to ukraine good day studio good day viewers glory to ukraine today is 19 years of facebook it seems that it has always existed but in fact it started its functional-functional activity in 2004, according to oleksandr in general, to seed the question, social networks have changed the world, please, i will answer with a simple online store

that before only parents knew what a fool you are, now the whole world knows mr. oleksandr well, no matter what social networks are, they still operate according to a certain algorithm with certain restrictions i still remember with pleasure, to be honest, that wonderful time when, in the middle of the great grief , stress, shock, and other things, in the first weeks of the large-scale tuesday of the russian federation in ukraine, the goal allowed, in principle, to speak and judge on the network as you like, the russian military and we had nothing to do with it. it is not true

. there are such thoughts that this is not facebook, but facebook. that the russians know how to control the algorithms of facebook and use them to the full because the goal has already grown to such gigantic proportions that well, first of all , it is technologically backward and she has each e-e platform does not cooperate with another, that is, the mobile version lives a separate life, it’s already about me, the available version lives a separate life , the ios version lives separately, for android, it ’s separate, and the algorithms do not work in favor of the user when you get an e-ban simply well, your version is for nothing, and the main thing is that the target doesn’t know what it’s doing. i ’ll just give you a banal example about ukraine, if you were banned. well, you got a warning, you say. i don’t agree. you

press the enter key. and you give bank i you have a form on facebook that you can fill out and appeal this decision, but for ukraine it has never worked and they know about it immediately when i talked to people who communicate with representatives of the goal they said they know but they don't do anything er, and this is what the russians do because there are bots, there are analysis systems, there is a list of bloggers that need to be eliminated, there are keywords, er, on which they hang a label for which they ban, er, the last bank was 30 days. russian is for it version of my hatred i don't understand this is about twitter, the language of hatred for cash registers or good russians, well, it's nonsense because of this

, i have a sudden desire to just sit and see how it is after 19 years the existence of facebook will disappear as a social network because with its innovations and rules it has brought itself to the situation where they build instagram from facebook with pink ponies with pictures of food with good stories and if you write on facebook that i can see outside the window how i am being shot, how i am being killed by e algorithms as a victim, you are perceived as an aggressor and you get a bank for this, and the biggest problem is that you are a kind of little digital serf in front of this corporation, who has no rights, that is, you are not even able to protest

because no one will ever judge you, another example of a reason was the news that estonia recognized russia as a terrorist country, on facebook i leave a comment under this news about the fact that russia is really a terrorist country, russian terrorists get a 30-day ban for this, in fact for fact checking, mr. oleksandr . and where are these people physically sitting who determine where there is hate speech ? they ask this question, they answer that it is in poland, but there is a recent case when a girl from azerbaijan started to deal with the glitches of the advertising office in instagram , wrote a request to the support service, and she

was answered in russian that what is here then urka also writes for azerbaijan, and then i'm sorry, it's not for you, that is, in russian, the employee of the target simply missed the window because she was probably sharing some emotions with her colleagues, that a representative of a non-slavic nationality came here and demanded something from her because of this, it seems to me what is the russian space, the post-soviet space, where the russian language used to be, but representatives from the terrorist's country are moderating, and meta does not do anything about it, because, look, it's all very simple, it's capitalism and business, money, eh the advertising market brings some things, you freeze, they don’t do anything to you for this, they don’t introduce any sanctions, they don’t introduce them, they don’t

introduce them, why pay more, why spend more money , how do i think that ah, well, facebook has a representative office in ukraine that there is nothing will not change if we take a map and look at the countries that , well, do not stop before imposing sanctions or fines on these transnational corporations, then they become more, uh, lively to dialogue in conditions of war. and it seems to me that the goal is not ready at all to penetrate the situation when there is a war in the country, the dialogue should be exclusively, well, according to our rules, look at our users, this is the information front , the russians are also knocking out the citizens of ukraine from the information space.

means of studying algorithms aimed at attracting some specialists who worked in the field or are working in the goal in order to work with the ukrainian e-markets through these algorithms that are constantly changing to knock out ukrainian accounts from the information field, and the most interesting thing is that facebook has been banned in russia itself since march of last year, but in this matter it is clear, say in russia facebook is recognized as an organization that is engaged in extremism, but this does not interfere, because this does not interfere with you, does not interfere, please tell me, sir oleksandr, well, sometimes ukrainians simply lack some understanding of the principles by which everything works , there is not enough of an information campaign so that it would be possible to spread everything and explain what can be written and in what shades and how between the drops

pass and what is definitely not worth it, because you will not have access to information and to the coverage of specific information and to communication with other users, he number addressed the president on global policy, the goal of nika, and the clerk, they asked to improve the process and moderation of ukrainian content, to share a list of rules what is managed in the company, what was the result, they are generally interested in what we have here as planned well , they also want to have users and the more the better, no, it seems to me that

ukraine is small for the purpose of global the most local problem that you can simply ignore well, in fact, they are on the drum, i will simply give an example, i was once banned on facebook, take a look at the screenshot of the advertisement in my feed of fake money, that is , facebook accepted the message, checked it , took money for it, and to this message where they offered to buy fake money, he has no complaints. and when i took a screenshot where there were several screenshots, there was fake money, cannabis, and i asked what it was, they banned me and wrote that i was violating the rules of the community, and because of this i have no illusions to the fact that facebook just earns money. as long as it is earned , it will not react at all because i have calculated beta farms several times. there is a person whose photos were stolen. she complains about this

fake account, but about the fake account. the advertising budget is screwed up and so far the goal of this advertising budget has not spent or earned this money, they have not done anything with this account for a month, but because of this , it was simply looking for capitalism, and we must understand that all the values ​​that the goal declares are all there are space castles, we are there for democracy, we have such a cool ideology there, this is all, well, basically a lie, because it is diametrically opposed to the actions they are taking, and because of this, well, there is nothing wrong with the fact that ukraine is just like the country that it is now on hearing the number one in the world story of the day was raised. the question i said look . we have cases, but the company meta does not do shit. there are examples when they make money , they promote piracy there, they promote er, there er, they advertise prohibited substances er- when you complain about the accounts of russian bots, they do not violate the rules of the community. and in

the global world, such applications have a rather significant effect on the value of shares only when it comes to money, not justice , only then do such companies respond to that that when you, its shareholders, start asking questions about where the money is, that's when the whites turn on their brains and begin to react, and while we are telling them for some value, for the fact that we have missiles there, why are you banning our activists? well, let's be honest with them they don't care, oleksandra, where is the flow of the audience from facebook to some social networks, on which platform? look , facebook is the social network that will never be the way we remember it again , it is dying, it is the youth. on instagram and tiktok, i argued with myself for a long time. i did not want to register on tik-tok a year and a half ago . i registered on tik-tok. i want to tell you

that tiktok is a separate social network, there are separate heroes, there are separate uh the leaders of public opinion are all flocking there now because they are on the same tiktok network . thanks to the algorithm, you can just be there in a month or two without any capital investment, just by removing some posts, become famous and start earning some money on advertising integrations and here the audience is constantly migrates from one social network to another and when you are young i have an interview with a tiktoker on my youtube channel and when i tell you there eh add me on facebook eh my account they ask what is this we don't use that is, people who are 25 plus or minus five years old, 20-30 years old, in most cases

they do not use facebook at all, they are not there because of this, facebook is a platform that is slowly dying, they are trying to change something, but well the world does not forgive such shoals in the conditions of competition there is an audience that is from the post-soviet space. it just slowly migrates to the same aunt, er, everyone who was choked there, everything except business goes to linkedin. twitter is a wonderful, er, social network with news, and twitter is not at all similar to tiktok, that is, there is the news is different, the presentation is different. of course, there are more americans sitting there, but if you know english, you will find information there that you will never find in the same tiktok. it is clear that uh, i apologize on facebook, it is clear that there are tiktok jokes perks, but the ability to post videos up to 5 minutes long in tiktok also makes it a competitor of youtube, because youtube

launched youtube short only to retain its audience, and when i upload an interview with a tiktok star to youtube, i see from the feedback that it doesn't fly because no one knows the person on youtube, but in tik tok the cut with this hero, the star of tik tok, simply flies off into space there, and the video has millions of views because of this , diversification is taking place. for example, for me, for me er facebook is not the number one network anymore because so far at the moment er the greatest freedom is in telegram there so far you can, well, almost everything, well, there are bans there , pornography, weapons, other everything that, in principle , is prohibited in the whole world, but in principle, from the point of view of the submission of information and democracy and the sanctions for this submission, telegram is still the number one in terms of alexander's freedoms, very

briefly, there is a certain opinion in society that telegram is connected to those who created this network, maybe there is something there to ukrainians is unreliable and so on your opinion your opinion how they say, i can't prove it, they won't verify it. i believe that major durov can get a general somewhere, thank you, that's enough, everyone will draw their own conclusions oleksandr glushchenko . thank you, a telecommunications expert analyzed for us the field where we spend a large amount of our time. we share a lot of things. we reflect on where we get information and uh, although very often uh, there is an opinion that social networks are a better source of information than there is

television, the media in general, and so on, because less censored and more let's put it this way, pluralism of all that, in fact, there are uh, important sensitive points that need to be taken into account and nurtured in oneself this incredible ability for information hygiene, let's talk with bohdan butkevich , a journalist, a tv and radio presenter, our colleagues and bohdan, we congratulate you good day greetings hello good afternoon, mr. bohdan. you are on tik tok . i know you are on facebook. you have 25, it seems , thousands of followers. how would you compare the influence of facebook and tik tok ? tiktok, on the contrary, is now at the height of its popularity, please give your opinion, well, i categorically disagree with him. well, we are very familiar with him many times in these discussions, but first of all, plunchenko probably does not follow the very interesting events that are currently happening around the top congresses of the usa a if he suddenly doesn't know, then literally , if my memory serves me correctly, three weeks ago

, the congress passed a decision to ban tik tok for all civil servants of the united states of america, also from the same uh, enough popular by the way air conditioners of the republican introduced a bill on the complete ban of tik tok in america as you understand as soon as this happens the history for the ban of sub-to po in all the declarations of the world i wish it is a very right decision why because those who are a chinese company we understand that the world has entered into nudity in the war of confrontation, the entry of the usa and china, the aunt is engaged in systematic memorials of what is what is trying to do with russian propaganda and so on, that is, if facebook has this, you know, such a very stupid machine algorithm, which on sorry, they learned to work russian bots and a treacherous chinese company that absolutely deliberately conducts certain things , someone sorry, i don't believe in commercial history and as for chinese information or media products , that's why i think that's what they use in ukraine, i don't have them, only people

never and i don't advise you match there because, well, the work can be in vain, roughly speaking, if you put a lot of effort into the work of the dark network there. i predict already within literally two years it will be prohibited the speed of the country back well, almost sure, well, look, i i don't agree with the plow either. that's why, look. well, of course, facebook is calling for very stormy times right now, it's true, that is, what are the reasons ? well, colleagues, let me tell you what role facebook played in the elections and trump and there in the events of january 6 and so on, that's why facebook now he is trying to depoliticize his content as much as possible, and this is why we have such big problems, especially if by and large he is interested in our problems , that is , look. there are some political people who help someone fight, it is still a commercial company that puts profit and sales of advertising on such performances, uh, i am a user

, but as for the fact that he has been living in recent years. and plus, let's not forget that we are not only here on facebook, what is instagram, for example, there are many other small but very large various it stories, so i think that, let's say , facebook will be replaced very much. i am sure that it is this company that will adapt to the new laws regulating the internet, which now , rather, will soon be adopted, and they are now discussing these ivankas in america, how they appear, but to say that facebook will die, friends, i'm sorry, i understand that of course they are just lying, there are two men there with half a mention, billions of users in fact, taking into account then of course less , but all the same, this is a network as soon as , well, at least one and a half billion people , that is, put your hands in it

to say so, then i think it is a little bit of an underestimation of the fact that zuckerberg is no longer the only head of facebook, huge amounts of money have been invested there by very big people of black codes, there are american political manias , not only american well, i don’t think that these people come to lose such and we will bohdan well, again we talked about the censoring of the ukrainian segment of facebook, that the representatives of the aggressor country with russian passports are engaged in this censorship. maybe even from the territory of the aggressor country, we have no confirmation, but sometimes indirect confirmation of this assumption is what do you think. how should ukraine behave its citizens who are users and subscribers have their own accounts on facebook when, well, they, well, not quite. i am with your permission, but i cannot name. i just have a few insiders of my facebook companies. well, one of them works

, for example, in the office. after all, there is a big problem with the fact that, you know, in silicon valley, a sufficient number of so-called good people have climbed over, and not only now, but 10 years ago, but then as soon as they go to ukraine , they all remember that they are also russian, but you understand what's the joke on facebook, the situation here is even more stupid, i would say, so that we simply understand. the fact is that if you pay attention, the meta company and someone are constantly trying to make such an emphasis that they try to be as much as possible the monitoring points seemed like this to machine intelligence, that is, roughly speaking, you understand, well, everyone knows perfectly well, and it’s up to me to explain to you again, igor, as an active facebook user, how quickly will a plan fly to you if you try to offer a poem by taras hryhorovych shevchenko with the word muscovites, the truth and no one will understand that this is a poem, that this is not

batiuk, and so on, why is this happening because facebook is trying especially after, i do n't know if you remember, about an hour and a half ago there was a huge scandal when one of of the catholic leaders, so to speak, the cathedral and facebook, uh, it changed with a scandal, there were heavy rains, what are they there, everything is so bad , people are processing the prices of drugs, there is no time to understand and that's why after that they officially began to declare and now they will give everything to the maximum the intelligence of the machine is a plus from this point of view, because, well, the steps of a specific person do not affect a specific decision, but this is a huge minus , because the one who learns to deceive the algorithm or use it in order to buy of your opponent, you understand that ordinary russians would love to use it now, plus, take into account that the facebook company had huge problems after that after the sixth of january 2021 from this artificial house, when they were actually sued for what they said through i will show

the guys who stormed the white house, they also supposedly underwent coordination, and that is why they have now introduced absolutely three rules on the so-called bailout. since there are some sensitive topics and so on, they don't understand it, and so on. they have another cool thing like this, they have this machine, the algorithm responds, look, we don't have time to deal with your problem, so if we decide to leave according to our rules, which in don't bark at me otaka ot unfortunately, thank you, let's have one more topic. we have one more topic, to which we actually invited you in the same facebook. well, please. yes, no, yegor, come on, you wrote about the need to change the name of the toponyms of kyiv, in particular, the air force avenue, there are a lot of defenders after all they say, well, the air fleet air fleet, what is the problem? we also have an air fleet of independent ukraine , what is the problem with the name pavitroflotskyi prospect, please

, look at it for me directly, i decided it, my dear , look, i think i understand you, how uh, should we change some names that have of soviet deputies, that is, as the air force avenue, it was named in honor of the soviet air focus, but at the same time, we have our own air force plus, this avenue is simply a preten and an airport, that is, in the airport plus there is a large number of systems of various objects that were connected with the historical broadcast plus we the result should be the chernyakhovsky military academy here we need the ministry and so on i.e. it seems to me that just here is just the option when well how to say this street is historic already on unfortunately, happiness is connected with such forces, and we need it somehow so that it does not carry rockets, but at the same time, so that it, er, forms one, it is er, related to our military policy, that's why i, for example, had a tradition of renaming

such a prospectus, for example, the prospectus of the air force of ukraine, and don’t bother and this is just the right option prospectus for you , it’s absolutely fine, i’m here to write on facebook and then i thought that i’m guilty of bad soviet abbreviations. you tsps this to oh, i want this all because well, look, this is actually such a question , you can look at it considering that, in principle, one drew the first point of renamings. that is, you know it there. not the street , but the nature of gvardiysky well, there is something else novorossiysk just said to them, you understand, but in general, you have to refuse, of course, and what to call it, i do n't have any complaints there either, because there would be no soviets, but still, i think it's worth taking into account that there are military facilities there anyway - the air force of ukraine and only the armed forces of ukraine, i.e. not to be taken into account during