[000:00:00;00] that ukraine will win, that's why we see such actions, it's very important, so examples of these rockets, which carry guided bombs, gl , er, scp, means gl, morning, night , that's ground launchers, they also have resins, the diameter of the bomb, that is, a small-diameter bomb appearance part of it is really not that big 93 kg tualient tretilova, but it is essential in order to make an impression and on stationary objects , that is, if this winged bomb is not equipped with a laser guidance unit, then it can only hit stationary objects if such

the bolt on the part itself must be highlighted to guide a laser from an unmanned lethal vehicle or from an airplane, for example, but this weaponry is fundamentally important for us, because at a distance of 150 km, the russian e-e control points, communication nodes, warehouses for logistical support of movement routes are being pushed back , it becomes more difficult for them to provide e-e their parts that perform task on the line of contact and that is and they have now already moved 100 km away due to the fact that 82 somewhere plus or minus the range of heimers rockets that is why it is important for us in addition to that they

can fly not only in a populist trajectory like heimers’ jet outfits, but also change the trajectory. that is, you can shoot this winged bomb forward , it will turn around and hit you behind the target or to the right or li ugu, and this is very important from the point of view of tactical application and useful to us it is necessary, the bombs can be used thanks to the heimers, which in principle our soldiers already know how to operate . thank you very sincerely for including in our broadcast, we will remind you that ihor romanenko, a military deputy, was on the call from the studio chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine from 2006 to the 10th year, we are going further, further, the summit of ukraine, the european union , vice prime minister for the european and atlantic integration of ukraine, oleg stepanishina, one of the participants, we are in touch with you, welcome, ms. olga greetings greetings good evening well, this is such an unprecedented meeting of the joint government of ukraine, the european

commission, i don't remember when there was such a meeting in general in ukrainian history, it was never true . well, in general, i don't remember such a practice, but the president of the commission said that there was one case when such a format was used, but obviously not in a warring country. that's the summit of ukraine and the eu. and if apart from declarations, what are our conclusions , the exhibitions you chose after all, what pace is the pace of integration now ? what can ukrainians realistically hope for? i think that we should get used to the fact that when we talk about european integration, it is just a transition from

slogans to work. what is so meticulous about it? this work will be more detailed, first of all, on the transformation of the country and its readiness to join the eu, and the more high-quality and powerful member of the eu by bridges, therefore, of course , you can't rush here, but on the other hand , speaking of the results themselves, i will tell you honestly that during the preparation, we had even more restrained assessments regarding the beginning of the negotiation process and assessments of the seven recommendations. we thought that we would not be able to reach some ambitious agreements. i can confirm that we have a real, very realistic hope of opening negotiations in 2023, and we agreed that this week we will hold consultations on seven recommendations with those so that in the spring, when there will be an official assessment of political reforms, we can

get a positive assessment, and to be honest, i i am sure that the president of the european commission and the president of the european council will be fulfilled by the end of the year. let's say that the agreements we reached today and the negotiation process will be launched. and how do you assess the progress? in the fulfillment of these 7 conditions, and i think that this is such a multi-level process by the end of the 22nd year, we did a lot to start work on each of the recommendations, we adopted its laws and there were, in particular, the appointment of a specialized anti-corruption prosecutor , the supreme council of justice became operational the competition for the director of the nabu is now ending, but the evaluation of more of these steps that we have taken by the end of the 22nd year is already underway, we already see today and recommendations, in particular, regarding

the competition procedure for the selection of judges of the constitutional court in our country. there are also heated discussions regarding measures to implement , for example, the anti-oligarchic law and the conclusions of the fanesian commission on the law on national minorities. these are all different types of dale dialogues somewhere at the level of member countries, somewhere at the level of the commission, somewhere at the level of the very approach to political reforms is difficult, but every time during the negotiations with the european commission, we hear a very simple message and that everything is just beginning, so we also gain experience and gain such political armor and we are preparing for long negotiations ms. olga please tell us how our european partners react to the fact that our reading of the recommendations of the venice commission do not exactly correspond to the way they were expressed by the special commission and she has repeatedly emphasized

this point e. the constitutional court and in general the reform of selection there is one of i will remind you of the requirements , but it is quite difficult. we are in dialogue with the venice commission, because we are talking, as it were, about the formation of legislation that must be voted on in the parliament and then come into force. we received three so-called final conclusions of the venice commission with slightly different recommendations and discussed this with colleagues from the european commission and agreed that next week we will focus on the three-party consultation format ukraine european commission venice commission and week , we will form options for solving the situation related to the law that entered into force by forming, first of all, an expert group that will recommend candidates to

the president in the verkhovna rada who have to determine these candidates, so i am sure that by the end of next week we will have a mutually acceptable decision for the country in the first place and for brussels as well, since this reform is part of our political consensus regarding ukraine's membership in the eu, which is actually our fight against corruption all the decisions concerning this uh, against the background of ukraine and the eu itself, there were actually many parallel processes in our country. well, for example, the council of judges of ukraine never appointed a candidate for the first composition of the advisory group of experts which is supposed to conduct the selection of candidates for the positions of judges of the constitutional court, that is, we still have such internal discussions. well , in addition to this, once again , searches took place in the forests, so

many cases. some reflections on the part of our european partners. did it add any bar er in the summit itself er you know. perhaps this is er as pragmatic as possible on my part but er let's say it was positive enough assessment of colleagues from brussels a-a of the latest e-e procedural measures related to the exposure of correctional officers by sending certain cases to court, as well as certain decisions in the government in power regarding the release of persons who have doubts about their integrity, this all has an effect that e it shows that not only our anti-corruption institutions , law enforcement agencies are working, that the legal institutional foundations of anti-corruption policy are already producing certain results. we are glad that this is

a product of certain steps that were taken this and personnel changes in the e-e in the part of the general prosecutor's office in the part of the appointment of the sap prosecutor are made - these are decisions that concern the e-e from mindo legislation and now we hope that the competition for the appointment of the director of the national anti-corruption bureau will be completed and the government will appoint the e-e director of the number of those candidates who were recommended to that er for me as for the member government responsible for european integration is of course internal it is there were certain scandals scandalous emotional events in ukraine but our partners consider these events as such that show that the system in our country works how much do you, in principle, think about the prospects of ukrainian european integration together with our neighbors in the post-soviet space from

ukraine and moldova together they should go to the european union how should it look in reality and definitely we are going together, i cannot say that this is the choice of ukraine, and in a certain sense , the european integration of ukraine, moldova and georgia already has its own history, and this history consists in the fact that it is most active towards the european union and eu membership ukraine is moving and these countries are moving with ukraine as a package, let me remind you that ukraine submitted an application for membership, after that such applications were also submitted by georgia and moldova, and ukraine received candidate status and moldova received candidate status, and now when we are talking about submitting the steps to start negotiations, because already joining the european union, we are aware that similar decisions are being made regarding water praise for moldova, unless, of course

, the political lenses and the political configuration will radically change in the country itself, we can see the situation in georgia now, despite the great desire and, let's say, the rules of the european union , where enlargement countries go in groups, still the eu was not able to grant georgia the status of candidates and we hope that there will be no such radical changes in moldova and that while the situation is stable enough, they will follow us, mrs. olya, there were such, you know, different opinions , a bit populist in my opinion, which were related to the fact that the lieutenant, the next day after ukraine wins over the russian federation, she becomes a member of the european union and nato and so on, nevertheless, can you imagine that our country, which is , firstly, a territory of hostilities, and secondly , a participant in direct hostilities, will in the foreseeable future begin the real process

of joining the eu, because the president outlined the perspective for 2 years, we have a signal from our partners for 5-7 years well, what we know from the media, at least during the war, we can combine our progress into the european union , in fact, i would say that after our victory, we already understand that there is no alternative -th option of ending the war a decision on ukraine's membership in nato can be made very quickly, and today i can confirm that such a decision requires only the political consensus of all 30 allies regarding the european union, this decision on ukraine's accession to the eu must be primarily in the interests of ukraine therefore, it is certainly not worth rushing politically here, it is a long process, but our political task is

that while we are politicians, government officials, as people who do not stand with weapons, in the trenches, we do our jobs, we have to work 200% so that before the end of the war we have the maximum readiness , the most completed or formed negotiating positions so that when the war ends, we do not waste time on the process and can already proceed to the adoption of political decisions, therefore, in fact, we are already in progress , so we have recorded the beginning self screening of self-assessment based on the report provided by the european commission and preparation for negotiations, that is why we are in a hurry to start negotiations in the 23rd year in order to prepare for them as much as possible and to conduct them promptly and under the end of the war, we should be ready to join the european union, therefore the actual speed of this process depends not only on the european union, but also to a large extent

on ourselves, what danger for the european integration of ukraine can be the so-called bilateral conflicts, bilateral claims well, i think you understand what i am talking about we are talking, i will give as an example the blockade of north macedonia, bulgaria, the negotiations, you are smiling because you know what we are leading to, and before that, greece, hungary and vitalia. to be honest, yes, i said that this uh, when we talk there about the issue of the law on the constitutional court, we should be aware that now we think that these are problematic issues , but this is only the beginning, and i think that precisely on the issue of ukraine's accession to the eu, we will have much more interesting cases than there were with north macedonia or before that, just macedonia. and i cannot predict them now, but issues in particular of national minorities or issues that we do not even

talk about today as problematic. reforms, but for membership. perhaps at the end of the day, when the negotiations will be completed, the biggest stumbling block will be those issues that do not even exist for us, are not key or turning points now, for example, i don’t know what we grow for such asparagus in western ukraine that meets european standards or uh, we are oppressing some national minorities. i think that this will first of all be an interesting process on our part, of course there is a maximum positive attitude, but we have to understand that the nature of the negotiations is the nature in general development of ukraine, realizing that we will become a member of the eu, it will be completely different . thank you, mrs. olya olga stefanishyna, deputy prime minister for european and euro-atlantic integration of ukraine, who

really had a busy week in connection with the holding of the ukraine eu itself. thank you in fact a unique e-e event e-e there is actually a war going on, regular air alarms, and our european partners and guests are in the ukrainian capital, talking with us and our leaders about how quickly, under what conditions , and how best to prepare for entering the the european union, but charles michel's thesis, in particular, that we will support ukraine as much as necessary and with all that is necessary, really caught my eye, is a very clear signal that ukraine will in no way be left one-on-one with russian aggression if someone does not was tired and did not try. by the way

, do we have the next guest, dear editors , to tire the european society and the society overseas so let's talk about the parliamentary ee. i would say concerns these days because it is obvious that european integration of legislative activity is impossible. so let's start with the law on customs. how much does this law on media in principle help our european integration? how does it now look like european norms ? with a lot of work in the committee, it was done much better and this law is perhaps more in line with european norms than the law, for example, on the constitutional court, which does not correspond at all, although there are several rules that look absurd, one of them is the lack of independence of the regulator, and international journalistic organizations are all writing and talking about it, the law actually restores the existence of state television, which

of course is also, to put it mildly, unacceptable for any european country, because in european countries television is commercial or public or public but not state-owned . the state does not have the right to engage in propaganda through television. in our country, the state only does this. there is too much control over electronic media. in a word, there is something to do to work, although in general this law is certainly better than many other laws that are called european. and what is the phenomenon, why, on the whole , even partners positively evaluate the law on media, but inside our country , discussions are still ongoing, not only among media people. by the way, look at the european partners, everyone says about the fact that our regulator is not independent, it is managed at the expense of the president's office, and this is unacceptable, this is what european partners say, they positively note all the great work they have done the huge groups that have worked on this law for many years want this law to comply with european

conventions and european traditions, that is, it is generally not bad, there are just a few points that are unacceptable in european society, we are now talking about them. and the law itself is very big. regulates the media in fact quite democratically. there is a lot of positive news. well, mykola, another such bright event. i would say no. a number of events this week are actually searches that took place. i won’t even count or spend too much on it. who has a lot of time, who have representatives of which structures of institutions in our country, all this is by the forces of the security service , so be it, by the forces of the security service of ukraine, by the forces of the state bureau of investigations, the national anti-corruption bureau joined in some cases. well, that's not all , what is the essence of such activation in your opinion, and is it normal that the activity

of the law enforcement system depends on the political decision in our country, which, as it seems to me, in a democratic state should, as they say, at least stones from the sky, but simply perform their duties functions, well, it’s true, when our high-ranking officials say that it’s their merit that the law enforcement agencies have started searching someone there, it certainly looks ridiculous and undemocratic, because the law enforcement agencies are independent everywhere, here you are now showing igor kolomoisky as soon as something is needed in take someone away or do something bad , they immediately come to the games of valeryovich kolomoiskyi, we also do him bad things , but at the same time, he feels good. employees of the investigative bodies of the sbu seem to be the sbu

. they took off their shoes for half an hour. by the authorities, well, that's how it looks from the side, it's strange, i'm somehow not happy about the search, you understand. because when they say, we conducted a search, it's just one of the investigative actions , we conducted an examination, we conducted a search, we interrogated a witness, the main thing is that it's a court verdict, if there will be court verdicts for and against those people who are being searched. if these people are really guilty , then we will talk about the effectiveness of the law enforcement system. and we have this whole fight against corruption, it is very media but not very effective, but i noticed that the photos appeared a large sum of cash that was lying with one of the deputy ministers of defense, this sum of cash was found in the summer, and now from a pr point of view it was important to show it, tell about it, and it was not even confiscated because this deputy minister said that he had borrowed some pensioner or she gave it to him for safekeeping and back this money was returned because of the effect of the media a

lot, and whether there will be a result, we will see the agreement. in principle, to what extent do you think that our western partners can be satisfied with such an anti-corruption fight? i think our western partners are not stupid because they are watching for one television marathon and get information from more than one source of some ukrainian special service, and they communicate with people, monitor what is happening and the anti-corruption fight when it will be systematic and effective and not it will depend on the first person in the state or on the second or on the third, then i think they will be satisfied with it. and no one can be satisfied with the show off in this case. it works professionally, but there is so much in one day that, well, it seems that the degree of ostentation in these actions is very large , designed for western partners, but i do not believe that it will work, mykola, the audit

of the united states, the audit of this aid, which which we will receive from them and practically synchronously er scandals in the ministry of defense and also . excuse us, the whole world is going to war against us, even though there is food for the military - we provide it with our taxes. but nevertheless , if the ministry of defense would allow itself in such a story with possible embezzlement there well, look at us. people chose the media power for its medianess and its actions on the power that knows how to work in the media continues to work as it knows how .

and sometimes it plays into a plus, because when the president artistically addresses some parliament of the world, people applaud him and it helps a lot in the country, uh, sometimes it plays into a minus, when the fight against abuses is actually covered up with ostentatious searches, some kind of media shows the notes. well, really an official should not write such memos, this shows the level of those who were appointed and those who were appointed, because all these people who were searched were appointed by the same media people and we were all convinced that these are the best people who are not involved in corruption at all, new faces, they have now arrived. all people are appointed by them, but they turn out to write notes that they dream of millions and go to london and there to the maldives. it seems so, but on the other hand, writing a little is not a crime , it also looks fashionable, but what was it about the criminality of this person, whom everyone attacked, is still not clear. it shows the level of the current government and its officials . but whether they are criminals, we do not know that yet

. of course , we would like to move from media coverage to a serious policy of responsibility, because the only way to win a war is through media coverage . you can’t although, as i already said , media coverage adds a lot to this and is also sometimes useful, tell me about media coverage, such a story with resignations in the ministry of defense even began to appear, a fake russian passport of one of the officials is what attempts to discredit the very idea of ​​trust in military news, well, there are several options, it could be an idea to compromise trust, but look at this official , we are talking about mr. aliyev, he was once appointed, well , he really took a pro-russian position, well, we have many of them i'm sorry. and the president did not speak at the corporate parties . do you understand the different positions in your life

, but when a person chooses, it is important to take into account , isn't it? i absolutely agree with that, the former mr. alieva well, christina, you definitely knew because you are a crimean woman from the crimea and you remember all these stories i also knew because he worked in the media, at first i was surprised by his appointment there with such a biography, but when he worked in the ministry of defense if he was accused because he stole something, bought it too expensively or didn't buy it cheaply, i would then remember his past and say he hasn't changed, nothing was there, and if there are such provocations that arose with this passport , which was thrown out because of a rather popular the media, and this media was investigated several times by independents, the actions of the meeting speculated, changed the signatures, once they wrote, they gave intelligence, the second they painted, they gave the investigative bodies , they gave someone else, someone else, then in the end they took it away, they apologized because it was an outright fake, so there may be several in this fascist er, well, the elevator left, i assume that

some group fought for the removal of the league. and all this was thrown out, spun around and reached the point that he left, was there any harm from his work or was there any benefit, i don't know, it could be so, it could be otherwise, whether there will be harm or benefit from someone in our country from some kind of successor, i don’t know either, but the fact that it was such a big, wide-scale provocation, and where they used it, including i think many and the media and many decent people, as they say in the dark, because somehow a company suddenly started protiliyev, no new facts about his biography have become known. he worked for the ministry of defense for a long time, the fact that he was a member of the party of regions once upon a time was also known to everyone for a long time. it turns out that half of the facts are a fictional person leaving. this means that someone is fighting with this person to remove him from office , using honest, decent people who would like to see patriots in power, and it is necessary to explain to society what it was, what it was connected with, who did it. there are a lot of questions and

immediately there are questions about the media you understand because we are often used to trying to be popular to use any methods in order to cause no love for rich people all rich scoundrels cause no love to that person who may have said something in the past, but she is already a scoundrel, no one evaluates what a person is doing now, what good and what harm does she bring, what benefit and harm are brought by these or other enterprises, companies, or these or other laws, we have a very superficial journalist, such and this makes it very easy for us to manipulate the state expert commission this week in e-e published its exhibits on the statute of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate well and made obvious conclusions that can be frankly without to invite you to talk about the fact that the canonical connection of the uoc mp and , i would say, the institutional connection of the uoc mp with the russian orthodox church is not lost, even if

you take into account the new statute of the uoc mp, which is little who has seen it i don't know if you have seen it yes, of course i saw it. i read it. although it was not registered, i read it and it in no way denies the connection with the russian orthodox church, so now after these conclusions of the state commission , there are now two laws, one and our 8221 which offers taking into account the e-e reasons of the national of security, how does the international convention allow the european court to ban the activities of organizations related to the russian orthodox church, in this case it also applies to the so-called uoc mp because, as you have already said, this examination proved that they are connected to the russian orthodox church. even if it did not prove this, we you knew this very well without any expertise and long ago it was possible to either prohibit them or force them to make such a statute and such legal actions that would prove that