tv [untitled] February 4, 2023 11:30pm-12:01am EET
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[000:00:00;00] well, this is taking into account the experience of the headquarters of various levels of the headquarters of the battalions of the western brigades in the organization of hostilities with the use of the new equipment that we are getting here, again, the training of the headquarters of the battalions of the brigades and a certain reorganization of the staff structure. and when we talk about about western equipment , this means that we, conditionally speaking, now understand that we have to reduce all these same types of equipment into combat companies or battalions of the same type and change the ork staff structure in including adding probably a larger number of staff officers who are capable , relatively speaking, of planning the use of these tank units, because everyone complains that the personnel of our brigade there is so
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small that there are so many functions left for the staff units that they actually do not have time it is easy to implement them efficiently , or is it possible to get rid of this achilles heel , just like in the new structures that we have to create at the expense of the arrival of western technology, uh-uh, definitely we must uh-uh take into account the fact that if we receive 14 challenger-2 tanks from great britain, then this should be a separate tank company, possibly as part of a separate battalion of mechanized or motorized infantry and other tanks in this unit or in this separate military unit should not be desirable why because if we only build two different questions, but this will immediately entail a very serious complication of the logistics of maintenance and even combat use
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, if we have a battalion set of the same abrams there then this is one tank battalion in the composition of some mechanized or motorized infantry brigade, and there it is necessary to prepare the headquarters of this battalion accordingly . it is desirable to change the staff structure. -battery vehicles, tank bridge-layers of the directly inserted staffs of the battalion. that is, there needs to be a separate engineering and technical circuit, a specialist in the work of engineering units, or for the headquarters of battalions and brigades, well, this is the achilles' heel. why? what are the modern headquarters of our brigades? they are approximately two times less in number
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than the needs that force us to have on the battlefield. and if we compare the work experience of many of our officers during multinational exercises, starting there in 2008 and by the last year, by 2022, the approximate number of officers in the brigade headquarters should be twice as much a-a hmm sergeants of the level of chief sergeants , master of sergeants, staff of sergeants, yes, in general , on the order, because we have very few sergeants' staff in the west, these are the main specialists which they do a lot of things in the capacity of officers, that is, junior officers of the headquarters, mykola, by the way, i talked with our guys who have been participating in
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hostilities there for quite a long time, and i even heard such a recommendation from tankers and from those who work for of the native self-propelled guns says it would be good if we actually had two crews for each tank, then, relatively speaking, there was at least some kind of rotation after a certain time, then i can say that during a week of hostilities, you become just a robot and you don’t even realize it what are you doing on the battlefield, to what extent can such recommendations be implemented in modern reality, well, unfortunately, we cannot implement reality today why because there is a lack of personnel, a lack of personnel and sergeants and officers and a lot of things will not be given to us such an ability. and in the future, after the victory , we must work in this direction, which means that a person is able to work with maximum efficiency for no more than 72 hours in a row, and after that, psychological exhaustion and
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physical exhaustion occur, and a person becomes, well, actually if we take the generally accepted zombies, that is, a person begins to stop reacting to external stimuli, a person acts inadequately in the situation that develops around him, therefore, if a unit or unit fights for three days, then at the end of the third day, the question already arises that it is necessary to change, but it is necessary to find ways to give people a rest, and at the same time , this is manifested not only in combat operations, this is manifested during multi-day exercises when people do not have a full rest mr. mykola, you have a unique experience when you trained the first units that trained on the t-64 tank, which was the first such
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technological tank that entered the soviet army at that time, and how long did it take to train the company crew battalion to perform, let's say, typical tasks in the offensive and defense and how it correlates with the indicators that we now expect from our tankers who will be trained there on leopards there or abrams there where it is said that there are a maximum of three months and it will be enough for us to have a trained crew, but it is not clear when we will have a trained unit , what were the time limits then and how realistic is it in modern conditions for more complex models then the soviet system prepared in the so-called tank training units it now communication problems, we are talking about the fact that right now our e-e crews have gone to britain or
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to train on challengers and poland undertakes to prepare tank calculations for tanks solid and tanks in a short time leopard eyes are going to be handed over to us in the near future , but the tank itself is such a collective means of armament, the effectiveness of which depends on the training of the crew. the battlefield, mykola, please continue your opinion, so now we will try to establish a connection by phone, and actually , when we talk about a tank, it depends on opportunities in this calculation to use the capabilities of this weapon because there are even such conversations that even
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the leopard tank is one of the modern tanks, the crew uses at best even 70-80% of the capabilities that are built into this modern model of weapons and when they talk about what actually in a month or two you can master the tank, in fact, this is a certain exaggeration, because the tank has to live with it constantly and then you can really use all the possibilities of this type of weapons e p mykola ot comparing approaches of soviet times on the modern tonic tank 54 and the solutions currently offered by the ukrainian army, what are the optimal ways to reduce the training period without loss of combat capabilities on the battlefield, to retrain those tankers who have already operated t-72 tanks of various modifications of the t-64-8bv and that’s it for so that those who have combat experience , that is, training should be carried out
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separately at first, that is, gunners, operators, teams , then mechanics, drivers, literally for a couple of weeks. and after that, train the crew in complex so eh and then the training of already coordinated crews it gives a much greater effect than simply training separately by specialty those people from whom in the future to form crews from the water of eh companies why because if basic training is given - this is one question and if er, prepare or just retrain. first, in the specialty , literally a couple of weeks, then retrain . the crew here, in principle , will be able to leave for combat coordination of the factories-gates after a certain 8 weeks, maybe even a little less than a couple for weeks, we have coordinated the formation of companies and, in principle, in three months we will have fully combat-capable units that have already
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smelled the gunpowder before that, that understand what will be waiting for them on the battlefield and, accordingly, they will use the possibilities of new equipment that they saw during training and cannot do not ask about such a component of training as simulators because your company, among other things, develops complex simulators for various types of weapons, including tanks, at our training centers were complex simulators where the military could actually prepare for the individual and collective use of this or that tank or infantry fighting vehicle, how does this component now fit into the supply of western tanks, do we ask for simulators or will we make them ourselves, what is the attitude to this issue now in the armed forces of ukraine, and it is a great pity for the supply of all tanks from the countries from which we received them before. we did not receive a single simulator for
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a specific type of machine, in principle, it was not very critical as long as we received t-72 tanks in various modifications t-72m t-72m1-d72mr uh, as soon as we got n55s at the time, uh, we had to attract specialists who uh, faced with the fact that the mechanics of the drivers are starting to smoke the main clutches because they are not are used to working with such rarities, that the work of the loader and er has its own peculiarities , that the gunners and the tank commander must take into account that the caliber of the gun is 151-105 mm and it is rifled, and there is also such a phenomenon as the wooding of the projectile. that
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is why i really wanted those bodies that are currently engaged in obtaining e-e armored personnel carrier technicians from western countries also asked our allies the question: please give us at least one complex simulator in the set of each battalion , so that we can use them later to train the personnel who will come to be replenished when combat capability is restored, why, because yes in the west , in germany and poland, we will be able to use the simulators of western technology that these countries have in the same great britain, but as soon as the tanks are a little bit across the state border,
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we will have to think about the future, how to prepare replacement by the crew that will conduct combat operations. and for this, simulators from the allies are needed. so, simulators are sometimes more expensive than the state, but the development of a simulator for western models of weapons and their implementation , e.e., these implementations, e.e. i have been for more years, mr. mykola, please explain such a component as the complex use of weapons when conducting an offensive or defensive tank battle there, everyone is talking about the fact that there should be bmp tanks and aviation , how integrally it interacts. if so just to explain to our viewers why it is important not to send one tank to conduct hostilities, why it is risky, like every type of weapon, a tank is just a tool, so it’s not tanks that fight, people fight , that is, crews from the water company. and if you take a higher level, then units and military
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units are fighting, but in order to achieve the maximum effect, it is necessary to use the combat capabilities of each military unit and each unit, but in a complex, but we must acquire interaction between tankers, artillerymen, and infantrymen, if there is the involvement of aviation and missile forces , who should be the representatives of e-e artillery? and actually, the whole organization of hostilities must take place in a complex, when we talk about conducting offensive operations with the use of tanks. support to carry out our expected offensive actions in separate theaters of military operations, which the enemy is currently receiving there, it will be extremely
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difficult, is it true, is it possible to advance on tanks in mechanized clones without aviation support, you can use artillery strikes to a depth of up to 30 km, the only thing is that the artillery must work with those units that are advancing in real time for this in the comments or use unmanned aerial e-e devices for correction and for calling of fire and actually train the crews of tanks and other combat vehicles so that they can trigger artillery fire on newly discovered targets that hinder the advance of a at a distance of more than 50 km, but there is really very the role of aviation is growing seriously because aviation is the fastest way to deliver death to the enemy, you mentioned that bmp tanks must interact with artillery, this means that the component of the so-called digital battlefield that is presented in western machines
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is actually already embodied in these samples which we have to get from our western partners and what is actually happening with our tanks now because we had to hear that we actually have motorola and when we talk about more complex samples there radio stations of those haris, not all of our tankers are ready to use secure communication and use motorolas . what is the point? when we receive western models, we have to raise the requirements for our crews to use these digital things that can really provide an advantage and interaction between other types and by the types of troops on the battlefield , what actually should be, in principle, in the principle of use within tank units , this is precisely the requirement for the training of crews and for the training of units as a whole, but if we are talking about the fact that the gunners have one type of radio station that does not interact with the radio stations that are located in the tankers and in the infantry, but the infantrymen have a third type
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of radio station, so here it is necessary to carry out organizational measures where to access approximately the general radio communication system the connection between all branches of the military, we also have enough problems with this, unfortunately, and when we talk about these first three machines that can actually be assembled there if we remember all the promises of our countries to supply our partners to supply us with these or other samples tanks, about three hundred tanks, how important is it from the point of view of real power how can it be evaluated from the point of view of solving tasks on the battlefield, how much will it add to our capabilities compared to those tank brigades that we have today , how important is it an addition to our tank potential. unfortunately, the brigades are not used more faithfully. it is certain that , fortunately, in a full complement on the battlefield, they are sold by battalion
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, sometimes even in bulk. battalions are 10 brigades that have full-fledged tank weapons, and in principle 10 brigades are two offensive fists , in principle, two army corps, mr. mykola . thank you for your time, for your explanations, for your experience, for your work in support of the armed forces, and i would like to remind our viewers that on the espresso channels, mykola salamakha is a retired lieutenant colonel, an expert on the british industry and a project manager at the defense and industrial company energy 2000, and now we have a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine with the call sign sappran from the very beginning. of the large-scale invasion, sapran took an active part in countering russian aggression as part of the e-e calculation of one of our
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tanks as a gunner, and then as an official he was engaged in mastering russian trophy tanks and bmps with their preparation for exploitation by our armed forces and analyzing the actions of the enemy precisely because of this it is very interesting to hear from him certain aspects of how the tactics and actions of the enemy with whom we have to fight both with our regular tanks and those samples that we will receive from dear our western partners, this is the plan. i congratulate you if you can hear me. good day. to put it briefly, what did the enemy’s actions show in the tank units in the first stage and now where are the enemy’s tactics transformed , what conclusions does the enemy draw and how should we take this into account in countering the enemy’s actions? is really changing in the current conditions the transformation is only for what
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we will say so we influence the enemy we exert influence on him if at the first stage the enemy adhered to the concept deep blows and achieved some success in this, then later when his attack was cut off and cut off, he was forced to abandon the equipment in honor of rearmament , abandon the time of the crews and retreat in the direction of kyiv , chernihiv, sumy direction, but his confident actions were very strong in the donetsk direction, there we had very hard battles are going on, let's say so, the enemy was used for its direct purpose in the january battles, in grips, our tanks, our units, drank our equipment
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, therefore, at the first stage, i will say that the tanks are used very actively by both sides of the conflict, if we are talking now about the current stage of hostilities. can we talk about the fact that the enemy has begun to protect his tanks, knowing that we have a sufficient number of anti-tank weapons that fire russian tanks and how the enemy is now trying to use them our equipment in order to achieve at least some progress on the battlefield and that we have to oppose such and such tactics of the enemy. well , there is another factor that came out during the second stage, let's call it that. in my opinion, it conditionally waiting from summer to autumn, the employee experienced a sharp deterioration in the condition of armored vehicles in general due to losses . he deployed new units, these units were equipped with units taken from
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training units, they took it from you for storage, and because of this, the condition of the armored vehicles deteriorated sharply. at this stage, we made a very big impression on the employee and undermined his spirit, after which the employee took away or threw the let's say yes equipment at their positions and the equipment was taken to the second let's say yes echelon now they are used, they adopted our tactics, they use it as a more armored self-propelled tauriyan installation after such an unsuccessful stage that ended sometime in the fall, they made conclusions and on the basis of these conclusions, they changed the training of the personnel . which have experience are equipped with both
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mobilized people and with those who have already participated in combat clashes, all units are adjusted on the front line and gradually adjusted into reverse sets and company sets are already being replenished on the basis of national complexes in the battalion that have already been broken up or are left without equipment. in addition, at this second stage, the enemy has made very strong conclusions according to the equipment, and at this stage, already in the third stage, let's say this, he forms a unified approach to the armament of the military equipment of armed tank units. at this stage, they form a unit that is equipped with one type of equipment . as a rule, it is either a t-72 b3 model of the 22nd year or the 80th - it is a 90 t-90, they plan
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to use it only in the composition the preparedness of the crews of the prepared units that have already taken into account the shortcomings that were in the first and second stages of the hostilities when we talk about the confrontation between our tanks and the enemy's tanks, are there any duel situations, how common is this practice, or is it now on both sides of the tanks mainly used as such long-range tanks sniper e-e rifles, which tactics are the most common today , such is the organization of ambushes, knockouts with the help of uavs e-e, where enemy equipment is hidden and luring it out or destroying it on the rampart that is, in the mountains, he tries to select our tanks from the first line, and our tanks, to be honest, already on the first line, there is practically none, they are all assigned to the second line, but they are used
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exotically, as fire brigades, the enemy is massaging equipment, which in the first stages they managed the units very poorly and were the cases when their units got lost and ran out of fuel, then at this stage they, on the contrary, stand massed, use 5-6 machines there against one of our machines, if they leave it , they calculate with the help of drones and then it is simply slaughtered like a mammoth if we talk about the fact that we should gradually switch to western-made tanks of western development, what conceptual advantages will this give our units in the long run and how should we fill this period of time in a shorter time until we switch to western models of tanks this a very difficult question because western tanks
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differ significantly in further technical characteristics from our machine. well , it is possible to use them in the same way as our tanks are used, they are long arm tanks which are used exclusively to destroy the enemy at a distance and as an anti-tank reserve , it is difficult to maneuver with them, and some things need to be changed in the training of commanders and the use of these tanks, so this is a difficult question for the knowledge of the forces of ukraine when we are talking now about our tank fleet, which today is in availability and what should first of all concern our military commanders in order to ensure the maximum effective use of those samples of armored vehicles that we have today in the staff
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schedule of our brigades, company battalions, and we i agree, the presence of crews ready for combat operations means training crews, selection of personnel, training is not the most important component. yes, this is the most important component , which is the weapon, it is offered enough to quickly if you have a trained crew and a trained commander who knows how to use this crew, but if you have there is no crew, then even a golden tank will be of no use to him, there will be no one who should be responsible for the selection of people who can really be effective tankers, this is not a question
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salary, this is a question to our personnel bodies and to the general staff that it is respected correctly. components not only in relation to the very technical indicators of this or that machine , taking into account the fact that weapons are an integral means of advantage on the battlefield , then we should strive to ensure that not crumbs a period of time to provide all the conditions so that with the arrival of western tanks, we really ensured a turning point in the oboe field and carried out all those counteroffensive actions that we now associate with the arrival of western aid . yes, we were indeed promised a significant number of tanks. force on the battlefield, and there are enough complex problems with what we see, we have to solve them promptly , and this was the main military components of this program
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. we are looking for three missing children from the vlasov family. we are talking about two brothers dmytro and artem and their sister sofia . their aunt told me about the disappearance of the children. the woman told her brother and nephews that her relatives lived in the city of mariupol in a nine-story building at 61 kurchatova street and that they had last been in touch the day before the start of a full-scale war, we talked last time two three big i don't know what happened to them. i'm looking. i'm looking for viber and telegram . i don't know. i don't know where to find them. imagine it's been almost a year. ms. olena doesn't know anything about the fate of her family, so she's asking for help to find her relatives. this is her brother serhiy vlasov together. with their sons artyom and dmytro and this is a photo of their sister sofia. the children were raised
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only by their father because his wife died of a serious illness back in 2014. little sofia was only two years old at the time and she suffered the loss of her mother very hard because of this and still has certain psychological disorders and problems with development, the girl speaks very poorly, sofia looks like she is now 10 years old, and her brothers artem and dmytro are 12 and 14 years old, on the left in the photo, artem is in a green t-shirt, in the middle , dmytro is in a gray blouse. their high-rise building survived the shelling. but the house has no windows, so it is possible that during the bombing the father and the children were hiding in the basement. or somewhere in the bomb shelter. and now, maybe he moved somewhere mrs. elena, while in spain, somehow miraculously found out about this. she even managed to get in
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