tv [untitled] February 5, 2023 9:30am-10:01am EET
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[000:00:00;00] how is there visually if you need to attack and spot and hit it was more than 11 but show that israel knows and the locations of factories know where it is located and it appeared the same that if necessary israel can be changed the test is more serious and yes and so you are not direct israeli drones were actually launched, so the israelis themselves show their strength and show that israel has an incredible experience in identifying and punishing criminals from the second world war, and certainly without the experience of masad
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it is difficult to say something in the context of our history . and so on, it will be extremely difficult for them in the context of the execution of these sentences and punishments. ukraine actually stated that we would like to study the experience of israel in the context of punishing criminals for murder. ukrainians, in your opinion, is this cooperation already underway and is israel once again providing us with its experience to study so that in the future, when we have such an opportunity, we can pay back for what
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the main intelligence agency of ukraine did to us with the work of the vat voprosom and er says that er semenovnye must be punished and punished to the fullest extent for what they do for what they terrorize ukraine is terrorized by another state and let's just say it like that and therefore of course everything will punished and such service as musat, i think, will be created in ukraine like the massada, and it is clear that all of us are exactly guilty.
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special forces thank you for participating and we were already waiting for khatiya dekanovidze, the head of the national police of ukraine , 15-16 years old, a georgian politician. i'm sorry i didn't follow your creative and career path . please tell me what you're doing for a start at the moment. i 'm asking for a united national movement and, uh , they speak honestly. so that ukraine wins. well, let's talk about the georgian component in the context of russian aggression in ukraine
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. in fact, the capitulation of the russian federation should be, in particular, the liberation of the georgian territories, and it is actually difficult to disagree with this, because it is true that if you push russia out of ukraine only and do not force it to return to the internationally recognized borders of the states it occupied, then she will also return to ukraine, a matter of a decade, conditionally speaking, but it is another matter that the ukrainians reacted somewhat like this with a certain level of criticism to this statement, mrs. president of georgia, because georgia refused to provide us with bukiv as an example to fight against the russian federation and georgia opened its doors to russian citizens who were interested in mobilization, well, these are the theses that are currently in ukrainian society, it is also
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important, of course, ladies, what do you think about this? well, you know it all started in 2008, that is, when russia attacked us . it was aggression in the russian federation, and then we told everyone that if putin was not punished, then the reality would be ukraine. by the way, they talked about it all the time. georgia, the government of georgia is not the president, so i thought it was a huge mistake when our partners did not pay attention and then in 2008 it would be easier to declare georgia, you know, little georgia, so that we, when we were defending our territories, then we were told that no no it is necessary to provoke russia there. well, i think it was a big mistake and because we lost our territories, that is, russia occupied our territories. 25, about 20, 25%
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of our territories are occupied then and after that in 2012 that's why such a situation what did you remember now and about it yes that's what the president of georgia says and why such a position is characteristic of georgians in 2012 there was a large coalition in power in georgia a-a s-e-e medina ivanyshily, who is that guy? they sewed it. a man who earned a lot of money in the early 90s of russia, he didn’t earn a single cent, and in the west, that is , in georgia, and they honestly say that when he became prime minister, but after that, he left the post . and after that the shadows rule georgia, that is, georgia is now in power. georgia is a sub-oligarch under the klyptocracy of the oligarchy. under a man who really wants to establish relations with putin and impose relations with russian oligarchs in order to really earn a lot of money. you probably remember
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that there was a conversation that appeared in the media then. about power even they didn't deny it. when the union didn't bring it up , tushenko is talked about very well. it's a russian oligarch . they're talking about some kind of business. i don't know. business there. the decoration in which he really wants to make georgia and that's how and so it also started so that when we talk about why the government of georgia has such a position . that's what they do and it all started. you know the reason for this, and the authorities of georgia didn't listen. somehow they managed to stay in the entire zone here on february 24, that is , when we said back in 2012 that the doctrine of georgia, that is, foreign policy, is changing
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. then we were also told by ours partners what not nothing will happen, nothing like that will happen. well, now, as it were, open propaganda is already underway. these are western propaganda. anti-ukrainian propaganda . yes, we do not provide any help , that is. well, you now remember about buki, and when we say that, for example, if president zelensky demands that ukrainian citizen saakashvili go back, it turns out that someone wants to plunge georgia into a war you understand, probably yes, well, this is what we have. to be honest, ukraine for me is not only our strategic partner. you know , ukraine is my native country, and when i see such attitudes of our own, such attitudes .
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saying how eh how everything a-a человека pochemu because we have 4,000 volunteers fighting in ukraine in georgia and a lot of people died too, that is, there, for example , there i know people whose son died there and whose father left again ukraine from georgia to ukraine then есть он now he is fighting in my opinion there eh there there in the east so i think that georgians understand very well and in the last survey it is very clear that if we have to win the war in ukraine and your pain, this is our pain, this is the common pain of the government georgia is one people, and you will probably ask now. and why, why? oligarch, oligarch. now i don't know how to command everyone. you know, it's very difficult. kremlin propaganda. there are so many russian citizens. yes, you are absolutely right, but the attitude of georgians is...
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the russian game there is not what it is. this is not the relationship that the russians would like , so i think that we all understand very well that ukraine will very soon win the political grave of the last putin . - and we really need to compare ourselves to ukraine, although you said about the anti-ukrainian propaganda that the government and the president are engaged in, probably the main oligarch in georgia. russian peoples, are there any georgian specifics in this program? no, you know, they say that ukrainians want tyana, that is , not only ukrainians and ukraine, that is, the west . do you understand how it was under the kremlin ? how is it under the kremlin ? people who don't understand what freedom is. and you should understand the psychology of ego. well, this person whose thoughts are absolutely not
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free is a person who is a soviet person. i don't know the us ambassador, president zelensky, the ukrainian mass media, our volunteers, we and the opposition, i'm convinced as a person about the ukrainian we all absolutely want to be there , and i don't know, uh, they're hiding a war in georgia , this is such propaganda, and understand this, it's very effective of people because the position of georgia is weak why because the entire resource is absolutely mobilized by the oligarch that is it and administrative resources - it and the media are absolutely there institute resource of institutes so i think that this is the thinking of the oligarch first of all he does not believe that ukraine will win. and if you ask more, well, i don't know, in my opinion, 75% of georgians said to the last question that there is a war in ukraine
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. this is our war, and they very much believe that ukraine will win. you will know that i am talking about this partner of ours, and they sewed with this attitude is not only problematic for the democracy of georgia and for us for the position georgia, so when i have a conversation with our partners constantly , that is, i demand that he not be seen as a person who really does everything so that georgia becomes pro-russian, that is, he should be sanctioned, this is very important, for example, because he sanctioned his brother and - in my opinion, the very close growth of nikolaev there and about this, in my opinion, these are people who also have close natural ties with russia, but the most important thing is that you probably understand that and it is necessary
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to sanction it, too, so that we are together and ah, they proved that our partners were not shulyk to sanction him, by the way, he has a lot of capital in the west, and to be honest, i think that this is real ah, such a levelyge yes, that is a mechanism ah when we do that and tell the oligarchs that this is not your place, especially in the ugu region, if you want to say that georgia has really become such an export hub for russia, through which gray gray exports to russia go, you know, i think that there is no. to export hubs because we are ours partners are those who do everything for the united states, the european union, which does everything to prevent this from happening, but the most important thing
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is that it worries me and i constantly talk about it. georgia now had the first wave of 20. from february 24, it was already a shock, and then the second wave - it appeared. when there was a so-called mobilization, that is, on september 21 , about 700,000 arrived , and 130,000 remained. there was such a transport hub, yes, but the most important thing that worries me is that such a migration policy is this or there is a security policy, this is very important , the georgian economy is growing, depending on the book economy they have them well, that is, they invest, so they have some drops of savings , that is, they invest, they buy houses, they buy, i don’t know apartments, that is, they invest money in our georgian banks. what
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the georgian economy grew by 10%, but this means that the dependence of the georgian economy on the russian economy has grown. well, we all remember 2006, when russia imposed an embargo on us, and it was really a very serious situation, as in relation to the economy, for example, the day before yesterday polls and to be honest, 70% of the georgian population says that they say that this is a big security problem for georgia when so many russians and citizens of russia come and stay in georgia because of russia and the second, you probably understand that for putin there is no need for a preposition .
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it will be used later, that is, the russian-speaking population, georgia is a very small country , that is, there are 130,000 russian-speaking people. follow the path from 2008 to now they were engaged in, well, i accept the attitude of course, i don’t have a position because we are in the appetite, but i really like how they live by our troops, that is, by military forces and a-a i want to say that a-a m it's the eighth of these people, i have a lot of friends. until now, it's also the same. well, in the joint headquarters, which really managed to stop the army of the russian federation, you probably understand. so i want to say that it's not the georgian people, it's not the georgian army , they are us. opposition, they are not georgian the government, and honestly speaking, we must fight on our front, that is, it means that
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ivanishvili will change it, it is very important and important , yes, about saakashvili, we wanted to ask saakashvili. this is important to human health above all else. the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine called the actions psychological and physical violence the ukrainian authorities regarding the citizen of ukraine mykhailo saakashvili and called on georgia to change the torture and transfer the convicted person to ukraine, this is stated in the statement of the ukrainian foreign ministry, what is the current condition of mykhailo saakashvili and is it possible to transfer him to ukraine according to this statement of the ukrainian ministry of foreign affairs, tell me about it, well, his critical critical condition, because you know that he does not have auroxia, like hexia, dementia , that is, there are a lot of diagnoses that really scare and frighten doctors in our country - this is first of all the last time i saw him in person, as the parliament of georgia
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, i had the right to go to the hospital, but that is , he was a completely different person . to be honest here it loses a lot of weight and it is impossible at all so that a-a i thought that this is the life of a person, you said that it is very important, it is an important factor, but i think that it is a humanitarian and political crisis , which is now in georgia, mikhail saakashvili, the third president of the chest, by the way, he the first president who stood up to putin at that time was still in control of the state, she said that putin told me that he wants to openly punish saakashvili, but it is not seen who the attitude towards him is, how to water the person, that is, if they are with him, what will they do will happen, that is, well, i don't know, and the current is fatal, so this means that the final round in georgia will be a very serious big tram, that is, it is not a democracy, they
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are a candidate, that is, the european union, eh , we will not give it away. so, this is very important. yes, we are fighting for that that he be transferred by president zelensky, the statement of president zelensky was very important, and i think that he correctly said, first of all, he is not only the third president of georgia, he is a citizen of ukraine , that is, and it is very important that he be transferred and returned to ukraine, or they know poland there for example, the president came there more than once, and there is a format where that is, um, our friends from poland talk to our, and, to the authorities . don't let him go because he thinks that his competitors just need to be destroyed, mr. khat very briefly, in the end, don't you think it's strange that with one hand , now, he is actually punishing saakashvili with a georgian politician, and we
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're actually talking about human rights violations it needs to be to ask human rights defenders, and on the other hand, he is asking for the status of a candidate for the european union and the same relationship as ukraine and moldova have now, is it fair in your opinion ? together with our position-holders and colleagues who have been fighting against him for a very long time and i believe that they did not hear him now, as i said, not only is it our problem, but also a problem for the region and a problem for the victory of ukraine, this is very important. i want and we want ukraine not only to survive this war , but also for us to win everything , and i
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would like to go to ukraine. in the series of forms that were falling apart, there are no reforms, there is an anti-western policy, and even a policy for ukrainian guests, which is real, that is, absolutely non-formationalization , historical, that is, what we need. i thought that it was painful. when we see what it is happening there during the visit of georgia, but the most important thing is that georgians love you, and 85% of them are about european, that is, they want to join the european union, and they want to live so democratically together with ukraine and moldova , and they want so many georgians not to left georgia because now every fourth or every fifth wants to leave, for example, every fourth left georgia, and from the region, that is, every fifth wants to leave, you probably understand that this is a very
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serious, serious statistic. so, yes if we look at the population of georgia , 75% of them are very hurt. they want georgia to become a member. when the soviet union collapses, they collapse , that is, in the early 90s, georgia eventually collapses as well , and finally in ukraine. valentines they waited for us psychologist we apologize for the delay valentine can you hear us good day to you er good day i hear you beautiful is leaving well let's start with the fact that in literally two weeks in three weeks we will celebrate the first anniversary unfortunately the beginning of the russian ukrainian great war
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invasion, how to preserve p valentine our mental health after this is a difficult year and when we don't know when it will end, this difficult year and this war i would even change a little how not to lose what is from our mental health sometimes what is left and give some practical recommendations thank you well, no question and i am watching the process that every day this question well, i have been answering it since, well , practically from the first day of this large-scale invasion and every day it is more and more difficult to answer it because feelings of exhaustion are really forming and it seems that we have already been exhausted by some final event, but something new is happening and we are losing everything, we are losing resources and the recommendations provided by my colleagues and i. well, let's say so
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are devalued because every time you give, well, by and large, the same recommendations that should have worked in a normal situation, but we are not in a normal situation, and that is why they are devalued and work worse and worse, and here, of course, an individual approach is necessary that well, i can say, for example, that sports are of great value, they help to sublimate energy , they help to release accumulated aggression, and this is very unhelpful. that's why sport really helps a lot here, you can relieve the body and because of this , the psyche is relieved, but we see that sports also do not always work. to lie down and not watch the news, not to listen to psychologists on tv, and
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the same way you understand everything is very individual for someone, it works for someone no, here you need to understand what specifically affects us, general things like that, well, they are ordinary, that is, well, myself stress yes and its strength, why does it seem like we already have to adapt, we can’t affect everything and the unpredictability of events because we don’t know what else will happen, what’s more, we, uh, it’s like you know, we’re getting ready, we’re getting ready for some new shelling, we’re trying to keep ourselves in our hands, yes, it’s happening not a new shelling, but a new search was taking place and what we see is this also a stress for us because it infuriates us and because of the indignation we also lose energy , so i'm sorry dear viewers my advice will be quite typical unfortunately yes if you
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you feel that you are completely exhausted, that you are losing the ability to work, live, and function normally if you see that you no longer like yourself in the mirror, yes, you need to go to a specialist, you may have stress , nervous exhaustion, uh, depressive disorder, all this must be solved with the help of with the help of some other person, it is better if it is a specialist, of course, and not an entrance . it was about this stupid trap that i wanted to talk about. very often people, uh, look for a solution to their psychological problems in each other because communication, but er, as they say, empty sources cannot fill each other , because everyone experiences this trauma in one way or another. i agree with you, so really, when traumatized people start meeting and
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communicating, they can very often traumatize each other and worsen the condition and cause this process of retrorheumatization. repetition, but it can be the other way around, it can be the other way around, and psychotherapeutic groups work on the principle of communication, but they work, again, under the guidance of a specialist who knows how to manage this very complex process, and of course, ordinary communication can become the bag that will lead you to a new resource because we are all social animals. we need to live among people, but it can also be that people can really annoy us, they can take away our last resource and we need to be alone with ourselves an opportunity actually with your own thoughts maybe there in the bosom of nature or in a closed apartment
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so that no one climbs into our personal space there it is all very individual and the longer this war continues the more the more often it is necessary to use an individual approach to himself let's put it this way. probably she. well, this post-traumatic syndrome of ukrainians is unique . what is its uniqueness? ukrainian differs from the previous ones in your opinion . well, let's see. we haven't yet reached such a large-scale post - traumatic stress disorder. what we feel is a geyser, an acute stress schedule, it is a direct reaction to the event itself
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, ptsr occurs after the event is over, and the personality throws from this bad memories, feelings, flashbacks begin yes, depressive disorders begin, panic attacks can occur and so on, this does not rule out that we cannot have panic attacks, there are enough of their wives, but by and large, if diagnosed yes if we have such opportunities to diagnose the entire population, then i think that the majority of people who they are suffering they are suffering not from ask he is still waiting ahead in us and yes how unique is it but from a scientific point of view it cannot be called a truly unique experience no many things what is happening now have happened a huge number of times the british experienced this during the second world war, the soviet people experienced this and the germans experienced this, these bombings. they were also, yes, that's why this experience is not unique, it is unique in the new
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time, because in the xxi century there was no such thing in the civilian civilized world, sir valentina, i have a very short question, when will we win , when will we survive, will we win, and in the end will we be able to master our ptsr? psychological health. it will remain. it can be scarred somehow. it is possible to work on it with a psychologist, or will it be necessary to work on accepting this mark and try to get along with it and build your future briefly please? which will affect you and prevent you from living and developing, what we are living now can become a trace and this trace can be positive , it can be a future resource because
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