[000:00:00;00] not completely different peoples with different inclinations with different hopes , there is absolutely no need to compare us, we are completely different . thank you, oleg, people's deputy of ukraine. according to mr. oleg, it is even worse, that is, count on the beautiful russia of the future, it is hardly possible . so we will now have a small break for what. in order to give the floor to the deputy head of the president's office, igor zhovkva told in an interview with the french tv channel france 24 who and when and whether it is true

. this is all ukrainian nadia have hope that they will be able to transfer fighter jets to ukraine . it is very important, we will be back literally in 10, maximum 15 minutes, and then the program will continue, which will be hosted by mykola veresen, please welcome to the air the interview program and our current guest ihor zhovkva, deputy head of the office of the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, and he is also the main political adviser. thank you for agreeing to an interview from the city of kyiv. thank you for inviting this jean, mr. zhovkva . germany and the usa agreed to hand over battle tanks to ukraine, and now ukraine is asking for military aircraft and long-range missiles , are they already underway? negotiations with the allies

, the decision on tanks was really long-awaited, ukraine waited so long and it is actually very good that it was finally adopted and now the so-called tank coalition includes more than 10 countries. this is very important because that western-style tanks can really radically change the situation on the battlefield, the military support that you mentioned, namely military aircraft and long-range missiles, this is the weaponry that ukraine lacks, we do not have any western-style military aircraft and we lack long-range missiles, so i since president zelensky during the last meeting in the rammstein format called it a tank rammstein, the next rammstein, which will take place on february 14, should focus on

the acquisition of military aircraft by ukraine actively we cooperate with several western countries that own various models of fighters and we expect positive results, and one of the potential options may be poland, which has already expressed its readiness to provide ukraine with f16 fighters, if nato does not object . why should such air support from poland be considered a tangible result in this matter ? poland is not the only one a country that has f16 fighters. and i repeat that such military aircraft are not the only option for western- style fighters. i want to focus on the nato side. i think that

sometimes we significantly exaggerate when it comes to the need for nato approval, we have repeatedly heard from the secretary general of nato about the sovereign right of each country to provide ukraine with the weapons it needs and the decision to transfer or not to transfer must be made by the government of each specific country , so sometimes it is a matter of insufficient courage and bravery to to make such a decision we are very much counting on the positive development of events , planes and missiles we need them, if not yesterday , then right now, for today and for tomorrow we don't need a lesson right away, and in order to start another counteroffensive and bring our victory closer, each country really makes its own decisions, and its german chancellor announced that berlin will not send f16 planes to ukraine, you can parry here, because i was once at school, he said the same thing about german tanks did germany's decision disappoint you, or is it possible that it will also

change? we are very satisfied with their decision to transfer tanks to us, and taking into account the fact that germany has previously made positive decisions for us regarding the provision of artillery systems, we now we express our thanks, i will also add that germany is not the only country that owns modern fighter jets. therefore, it may be time to pass the baton to another country of the european union and nato that wants to help ukraine in ensuring that we currently lack russian military bases of soldiers and infrastructure in crimea. for example, to also significantly influenced the course of military events, we have the right to strike any military integrity, i emphasize , a military target located on the territory

of ukraine outside the borders of the sovereign territory we are not interested in ukraine, and we all know that as of august 24 , 1991 , the cordo of ukraine also included crimea. information about ukraine comes not only from our intelligence sources, but also from our partners, does not want to make any predictions, but everything is very serious, at the same time you mentioned that ukraine is not

moving forward, i will say that we can to lose the moment for six months we made very good and correct decisions regarding the situation on the battlefield we managed to liberate almost half of the occupied lands since the full-scale aggression of russia on february 24 of last year in order not to lose this moment we return to the question of the necessary equipment for counter-offensive actions the most necessary artillery systems to open artillery fire and so tanks and armored vehicles are involved to bring the military to the battlefield we now had enough art systems and ammunition there are enough tanks and armored personnel carriers, we could even go to a counteroffensive yesterday, today or tomorrow, and we would have shown even greater success, and you can believe in the combined efforts of our partners regarding the supply

of weapons to ukraine. its territories in 2023. can you prove that he is wrong? you see, many military experts at the beginning of the war said that ukraine had no chance of resisting russian aggression in three, five, or even a week of time, but we see that it has been almost a year since the beginning of russia's open aggression, not only are we standing, but we are also achieving certain successes on the battlefield. yes, we strive for victory, we strive for it this year, and we have every reason to achieve it. the president stated that the participation of the russians in the 2024 olympic games in paris will be tantamount to tolerating terrorism

ekceptibol wild ukraine drinkers in the event of the participation of representatives from russia and belarus one modern painting the international olympic committee will allow russian and belarusian athletes to participate in the paris olympic games in 2024, then not only ukrainian athletic athletes from other civilized countries can boycott such an important sports event, there was a film where they thought that all the participants would think carefully before agreeing to compete with representatives from the aggressor country not only about ukrainians, we must understand that it is not only about sports, i want to mention the fact

that many russian athletes are part of the armed forces of russia or other law enforcement agencies, you can imagine that french athletes take the field to compete against the military of the russian federation, athletes who not only did not speak out against the war in any way, but also in most cases support its side. at the last moment of this week , the ukraine eu summit is to be held in kyiv, which will be attended by president zelensky, the chairman of the european commission and the council eu, your prime minister stated that ukraine intends to join the eu within the next two years. this is a very difficult task , recalling the words of the french president that

ukraine has years of experience in this matter. your opinion, will ukraine really succeed in obtaining eu membership during these two years , ukrainians have demonstrated to the whole world that sometimes they are capable of creating a stranger. in ukraine, the status of ukraine's candidates on june 27 , just 115 days ago, i will not claim that it is impossible, but i will still agree with some expert critics that we need to pass all stages of european integration in order for this process to be successful and we are more ready than ever now we are in the final stage of processing the seven recommendations given to us by the european commission we are waiting for the interim evaluation report at the beginning of march and as soon as this report is ready and i am

absolutely sure of it we will count on the next stage, namely the negotiations on ukraine's accession to the eu, and then we will see, because the situation can change radically after the start of these negotiations, and i agree that the process can be significantly accelerated by submitting application for membership in the eu ukraine did not start this process from scratch, unlike other countries that really may need decades to join the eu part of what significance will all this have for ukraine all this is extremely important this is a decisive moment for ukraine full membership in the eu or close to this goal lays the foundation for the victory of ukraine over the aggressor we want to become part of the european future and not the russian past, part of the eu and not the ussr 2:0 and we

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veresen , our program continues, we will now talk about the various circumstances of our lives, and not only ours. of energy good health mr. andrii, i am glad that you found time for us on sunday good health so look what this is where it really is, it is such a powerful blow $45 per barrel of oil and $100 per barrel of diesel fuel now this is what they said and i am not an expert. i don't know if it is good or bad or a lot or a little . is it enough for russia to continue shooting and destroying ukrainians ? yes, mykola. well, let's get the numbers right, we'll need, first

, $100 per barrel of diesel, that's about $746 per ton , so that it 's easier to understand. our gas stations well, that's for to understand that 746 was multiplied by 40 e-e. well, they looked at our price and realized that somewhere they are 20-30% already losing. yes, that is . well, what they see on the ceilings of our gas stations, then what is 45 e- e dollars per barrel, this means that oil products should not be sold with a premium of more than 45 e-e dollars, that is, if it is for diesel fuel, then the marginal price is also clear to us here. it's just about the prize

in the language. well, to make it clear to you somewhere in in december, self-ignition vehicles were sold for around $800-900 per tonne. and now , the price of diesel fuel is now the russians are losing about 200 bucks per tonne. for individual oil products, if the premium is usually $160, $150, $145, to be honest, this premium is not about anything at all, that is, it is a strong blow, stronger than it was for oil when $60 was set and let's think if taxes were set at $60 , and contact more expensive 55 and no one wanted simply, and the median is already taken to be $43-48, so this is already

a more concrete, powerful blow, let's talk about how they protect themselves from this, or how interesting it is, because some say that they still bypass these sanctions, while others say that they really do bypass but it's 10% - 5%, 15% of what they previously had the opportunity to sell, what do you say? and i'll say that i love arithmetic. and here's arithmetic. if you previously imported 270 in different ways, 8, roughly speaking, it's 278 million . one that yes that is used where whatever you produced, you used it, now i don’t know where you’re going to raise 150 million, no one can tell me something about oil 17% lost production 24% lost production

the price fell did not fall arithmetic is very simple that for oil what for gas before russia used 420 billion cubic meters of domestic domestic of gas, and they produced 770 billion, now she said that she increased the domestic domestic consumption to 470, but the production of the production fell to 670 billion, but i don’t believe it, because i don’t understand. where can you go, children, gas more than that is 50 billion cubic meters, which they said, i don't know where you can get oil, except for 112 million cubic meters, what kind of domestic consumption is there, and i think that there is.

i'm sorry, i'm sorry mr. andriy, i'm sorry, but it's a very important moment, the experts say what this means. all these numbers, the arithmetic you gave, that russia will have to simply close the mines where possible , where they previously extracted either gas or oil , and the technology is such that you can't do it resume on the second day you cannot close it is not a tumbler it is not some faucet that you closed and then something changed in the world you opened it then the question arises how long to wait until it starts to stop you started to stop oil and gas production if the truth is that it is not possible create plus turn off in one second well, first of all, you are now talking to this specialist who deals with technologies that help prevent this fc and turn off, that is, i am a specialist in tubing sniping technologies in the oil and gas industry

i know how not to install or stop wells, and why it leads to the fact that when you stop them in 30% of cases that in our country and all over the world and this leads to the fact that you will not get anything from there , it is clear yes, that is this situation and more a year ago, i understood that russia would suffer all these sanctions. and now i can tell you one simple moment: russia as an exporter of energy carriers in europe is multiplied by 0. europe has lost everything and it will not be able to do it because of oil products. in very a competitive environment with india, china, china, the arab emirates, which also do processing, and the only place where they are now trying to find themselves is that they are located in the south of the mediterranean sea, that is, there is something there with

the spaniards, they confuse it with catalonia, and this is africa, and here we must note that we were laughing over lavrov, who went to africa, and in africa they can more or less find themselves, the question is that they will find this question in africa. that is, they will trade skins and leopards for oil products. well, it may be that way. somehow to do something, i agree with those experts who are now observing this process and comparing this situation with the end of the 80s, that is, russia now .

in order to create tension points again, as they did in germany, the point is not that all of russia is losing. the point is that there are now critical points where they continue to make little profit. now they pump not on russia is suffering from this, and it is pumping conditional former merkel future shredders and so on in the south of europe and in the north of africa . this is me as an expert and i want to address you as a political scientist so that you , as a journalist and a political scientist, pay attention to this, that is, we we see that spain and morocco and north africa are subject to these cheap prices, and there is a surge now and the formation of a new phoenix of russia , but this is still not all of europe and not all of

africa. okay, now it's 10 % of everything is what it is it is possible in numbers we can even say it is 10% - it is calculated and calculated very, very clearly because they wrote azers e-e in the reports azers , that is, it is unknown who is looking at mr. andrey , one more question and if we believe you and or other e-e specialists, it turns out so that the age of russia is over, what is it now, if well, it is hard for me to imagine that they cannot supply gas to china, for example, because there is no pipe, you cannot gas, er, billiards without a pipe in europe , there is no pipe either, and i, if it even it would not have been bought, the oil remains here these are the prices you're talking about, we need to close all these swimming pools, and then what

, what will russia look like in 10 years. okay , in five. come on, in five, ten, how far will russia look? in 5 years, explain to us on the dnieper. how are you? we boldly drank beer with lesya podervyanskyi, sat at the next table and, well, we must remember the classics of our master , damned postmodern, that is , nothing dies in postmodernism. unfortunately, modernity ended in postmodernism, nothing can bring it back. i, uh , that's the problem how i see russia in 10 years er but even after 100 years i have wake up i can tell you that they will steal and er dig in the shit that they will create by reformulating er saltykova shchedrin i want

to say in a different way they screwed up putin screwed up everything and we know, but we know that they are like these, er, worms, they are always creating and will steal there. so here i probably won't surprise you. and here is where i already started to tell you , and we have to note it now very serious about the african tour and e-e triangle , france, spain, e-e, morocco, morocco , algeria. how funny it wouldn't be, how in germany there was a knot before the pressing of all these triangles that formed in ukraine, but now the germans have ended this

thirty-year period of muscovy's influence on ukraine through germany, and in general on eastern europe is now under new pressure a new center of influence and we will have them again through our border through again through ukraine and this is already clear to me, this is the main factor that the platoon of these sanctions showed us. well, somewhere we will play the 10th package of sanctions and what is now we'll see. i think that europe is a hole, clap, she frankly says that we are not doing anything , well, we are just clapping all the wickets that at the moment russia has created for itself, this is precisely my next question to andriy, look, and all the experts say about this that the americans are canadians

the europeans, the british and even the japanese are now looking for these holes persistently, where can you get into something, sell something, exchange something, do something, how effective can it be, how well do they understand these markets, so as to say to find some specialist? where is this oil flowing, this gas , we can find it, please show it to us . well, i have a wonderful analysis. what did serhiy artem kuyun group a-95 angora do? we can get acquainted with them. they opened it now. autogas, so that you understand, the gap looks like this: 1 hryvnia 30 kopecks per liter of autogas of this propane-butane that you fill up. do you think this is a big hole

in order to be tempted when you have gas there for 24 hryvnias and there for 30 hryvnias? wow, great super great price yes, i can imagine yes, but even this hole, even this hole did not lead to the fact that everyone rushed there that they all took advantage otherwise and such a cheap price would not have happened, but it will be closed, i want to tell you who is tempted let's do it now ukraine depends on ukraine for the transit of russian gas to europe, but you are honest. we continue this transit and we have these doors . is the first indisputable political victory that showed what nord streams one and two were for? yes, that is, we showed this is it. i think that what the president continued and we faithfully fulfill the contract, this means a huge political victory, which can now be shut up

with merkel schroeder in the eyes and putin, er, loza , the second point, after all, they support us with pressure in the pipe and we do not have a separate of the trunk system, which distributes throughout ukraine, and another system for this could be pumped in. well, now it depends on us whether we will maintain this pressure or not , maybe tomorrow we will say that the whole contract ends. next year , we will conscientiously fulfill it and stop it ourselves -e zero transit will be arranged. now we will already draw it in from this side. now we are already reminding putin that he started a career of food in exchange for oil in his own home there in st. petersburg, but now we are reminding him of this and it's like it's a huge victory for me and not from which one it is necessary to refuse altogether. and now if we indicate about oil products and spend all the things