[000:00:00;00] accordingly, the submission was made. was it submitted by the minister of foreign affairs to the president of ukraine still in october? a few days after the announcement was made that ukraine, russia, i'm sorry , is at war with ukraine with iranian weapons, weapons that are transferred in thousands of copies . early in russia why now and why do you consider any other organization in general for 3 months there was no reaction because the deprivation of their ambassador's accreditation of the iranian ambassador who was not sitting in kyiv is such and such what are they talking about all the more, it is completely inadequate, it is a pity, the threat of death of our people, which was carried out according to the president of mirant

weapons, maybe there were some negotiations and now these negotiations have reached a dead end, maybe the world society said in ukraine, the leadership in ukraine, guys, we all already behaved with the sanctions led by the european union a couple of days ago , australia imposed sanctions against iran for providing drones to russia, what kind of drones are used, he is not against ukraine, everyone except ukraine pretends as usual that this is not relevant, it is possible and why the reason is that you understand the reason, as an outsider, so to speak, an observer who does not have access to the specific information that goes to each citizen of ukraine. i can imagine several options for answering this question . first, the president

was wrong. drones that were transferred as such, there was some kind of technological line and russia began to create them itself, and then it was like, that is, what was the reason for the second version of the leadership of ukraine believes that any steps in relation to iran are steps the punishment will be diplomatic e

. we have relations with belarus, because there was an attack on ukraine from belarus, thousands of citizens were killed, shelling, all this with the help of belarus , some diplomatic measures or some significant sanctions by ukraine the old stereotype that the people are for the state, the economy is for the state , and not for the people and the people for the economy is obviously being used. maybe he is somewhere at the top and still has a different worldview. british media yes, they asked him why didn't they warn people that there was a possible attack, war, and so on, the answer was interesting

, if we had warned, there would have been a panic, the gdp fell , that is, it doesn't matter that in this panic, people left kyiv while standing, that the stations were crowded that on the roads the russians shot tens if not hundreds of people the main thing for you to work was income and so on and so on i do not rule out some backroom agreements between representatives of our leadership and representatives of iran well , here we see corruption, that's normal from whom i do not have an explanation of the situation. and you yourself, what do you think , mr. oleksandr, were there iranian drones, i am not a military expert from the point of view that these are non-iranian drones

, after all, our military experts did not spread all they believe that these are iranian drones, as far as i know, where they just scratched the geranium plate, so i would not rule out that it is an irish drone, the model is cheap and early , it was not riveted. and in russia, it is very favorable for such an exchange between them for cooperation in the military and political sphere , therefore, i would not rule it out, although i personally am a supporter of the fact that this soviet approach is offensive, that is, the state is not the people for states, the economy is not for the people, but the people for the economy, it is still dominant somewhere there, which is why we have a whole bunch of problems, 10 this

is how it will become, alexander, what do you think actually happened in iran when there were these explosions on military facilities, primarily extortion, i think that everything- still, i would not rule out that internal sabotage took place at the site of the objects, but the strike by drones also took place. it’s a different matter. for me, it’s interesting. how did a person who worked in this region all the time work in a carabaza or was it used for carrying out these strikes on the territory of azerbaijan, but i do not think that as a result of these strikes, serious damage was inflicted on the military-industrial complex of iran. the fact is that this is far from the first use of drones in the regions in general and against iran in particular, er, the iranian vec, they are

getting old the military-industrial complex , i'm sorry, they try to hide it , hide it in the depths of the mountains, hide it underground, and that's how easy it is for a drone to fly in and cause such damage that the technological line stopped for a month, two screens it is unlikely to rebuild it accordingly and the attack, which was unlikely to set such a goal, is most likely a battle marking to see how the e-e air defense system works in iran and would be a warning that the guys do not flirt especially in terms of your usual the positions of er regarding israel, the positions in syria regarding the organization of terrorist acts, for which we know er , it is worth ram, most likely, it is yes p congratulation

. that is, in fact, er, in your opinion, the signal is like this. i think that according to the results, yes, a warning that guys maybe be worse than moreover, this warning is now extremely appropriate due to the complex internal political situation in iran, which in the event of some open military operations can become extremely acute and in this situation, if the regime manages to hold on, i would not say that under all other conditions it will hold, but in this situation it can and do not get conscious, they understand it , they congratulate when the prime minister of israel is near me, he says three times that the strikes on iran are helping ukraine. is this

really true ? some other more radical steps on the ukrainian side. i think a small plus is that in the event that this cooperation between e-e iran and russia in the military-industrial complex really exists , then any internal non-government of this in iran , any warning to them that guys, look, it could be worse, agree with your balanced foreign policy, you have already reached the edge. of course, this also helps in ukraine because of the fact that iran should be able to rethink its policy in relation to russia . early

caused, among other things, by these drone strikes. it is in favor of ukraine in this situation, but i absolutely do not believe in essen with the fact that everything will prevent the delivery of iranian drones to russia . israel will not do it. and russia , from their point of view , is playing a certain role, our interests coincide, but now they do not coincide. at a press conference about iran and about the unity of the american-iranian-israeli approach to the iranian problem , he immediately said that israel should pay attention to russian-iranian cooperation and help to ukraine . i don't know how much the israeli government can ignore this

relationship in what you just said, or rather in this quote. it seems to me that the main thing is that israel has, that is, guys, change your politics, and this means that it is unlikely that the drone strike was carried out precisely with the aim of helping ukraine, perhaps precisely in the context of somehow softening this criticism, which is already quite strongly directed at israel , the prime minister statement and said that they themselves took revenge for ukraine. israel must mean that it is not doing yet. that's all , how seriously do you think you can be worried about iran actually getting nuclear weapons because in israel they talk about it as a fact that it

can happen any moment is global the media say that the distance between the wounds of nuclear weapons has already decreased significantly and this russian-iranian cooperation cannot lead to the acceleration of the process that russia is transferring some technology too soon. i think there are a number of questions here . in such a situation that it can transfer anything to anyone in order to obtain some kind of weapon , including to iran , to transfer nuclear technology. in terms of international law, not only. therefore, is it possible or would it be too early in this regard to pose some kind of threat to israel, definitely to ukraine , and we have nearby the cores of a state that occupies our territory and every week threatens to use nuclear weapons against us, to a lesser extent, i

mean international security, definitely with on the other hand, if you compare the sanctions that were introduced against russia in general, according to my assessment, today russia is a much greater threat to international security and stability in the world than once, but the sanctions introduced against iran is much stricter than those introduced against russia. how is the situation? of course, one way or another , the sanctions will be leveled. there will be no point here . what is there to work on in this area, and of course the spread of nuclear weapons is nothing good , if not in the medium term, then far from the insurance perspective . humanity is heaven, why should we somehow stand still, but as part of the task, it is obvious that iran is now supported by russia and the people's republic of china

, it also builds there, transfers technology, builds objects, obviously, i can say more and ukraine there, well, nothing has been reduced, there is no trade turnover. well, let’s take bushyrsk, there are more than a thousand and a half of our former citizens, maybe former citizens, but they are the ones who serve the hrushevsky npp , you understand, most of them took russian citizenship, but this does not mean that they are not it is possible to run over and somehow cause damage in this course, i have not heard anything about the termination of cooperation in the production of this aircraft an-148 e-e or as it is called ira 148 if this fact is not mistaken and other, other, we too, yes, yes, good

question , mr. oleksandr. thank you for asking them. oleksandr samara diplomat, former ordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in iran and expert center for the study of russia, we were in touch. faltsynskyi, doctor of historical sciences, political scientist, congratulations. hello. well, vladimir putin , at the volgograd conference, said that russia is waging such a war now that it is a great patriotic promise - they compared leopard tanks with german tanks of the second world war. it seems to you. that this narrative has practically become the dominant russian propaganda, or at all the level of aggressiveness of the russian federation. since february 24 last year, it seems that with every day it becomes increasingly aggressive and

aggressive and tougher and tougher. и каджий каджий новый medvedev's twitter, ah, this is an absolute masterpiece, of course , for journalists, and it creates a lot of good documentary opportunities. mediocrity is necessary to achieve propaganda a-a wars of the russian leadership, well, putin’s russian leadership with the west, but you know, since 2007, putin has openly explained to us that his task is the restoration of the soviet union, and what about

one country within the borders of the soviet union of the former. well, for the time being, if we look at the european part of the ussr, and on the other hand , and from the point of view of the return of the country to the soviet union , as it turned out everything was concentrated well, the parts are right on the a-a territorial ambitions of the russian leadership, you understand that this can lead to war and see how it leads to war there in georgia in 2008 ukraine in 2014 but what if there is such a psychological side and the restoration of the ussr no one she considered it, in fact, it turned out to be very important , and putin was not accidental

, because already in 2000. as soon as he became president, the soviet grandfather returned the soviet kim. to ukraine, the telegraph agency of the soviet union returned the names of the information agency dask and so far we have remained the leading , as it were, the state information agency. the union, as it were, all of them, but i have introduced here, they prized security and said that they hated the stalinist soviets . that's why he eats grace and changes the name of the city from volgograd to stalingrad and the monument stalin is put there. yes, that is. and the amazing thing is that in the new occupied territories, the power of the russian federation is not being restored , and the russian federation does not include all these

territories, but the union, yes, they are restoring the old soviet monuments and renaming the streets with soviet names they have long been canceled in the same moscow vodka, here are the new occupied territories, and they are, as it were, from the point of view, yes. who left in 1991 and putin fell through and fell, by the way, i successfully uh, i hope to return the entire country , that's all the russian population, and return to the soviet union, that's the dream, that's why when he said that for him the soviet union is there and a geopolitical catastrophe and a personal tragedy. now he is engaged in correcting a personal tragedy even more than i am a political catastrophe, because, well, from the point of view of territorial acquisitions

, let's say frankly, he doesn't have much success, so it can be, therefore, there is an idea of ​​priority, you know when you take the region and turn it into such a training ground for the liquidation and so to speak of your own values ​​of your own legal system, because of this , it spreads throughout the country, among other things, it started even where, yes, it was just in the 90s. when was it even? the free press, that's how all of this was covered, then there were independent political children or some independent parties, but nevertheless, this is a demand for the return of such a psychological, i don't

know, philosophical yes country to the soviet union , it asked the first chechen war and the second and the chean war and the war in georgia yes, it’s easiest to do it through the war , yes, and that’s why putin is here. how did you try to kill two zaitsev? the main hare can be a territorial acquisition and a formal return to the soviet union. he is about to drive all the russian population back into the soviet union. and what do i think has already happened because the border is open to all those who do not like or hate this regime ? for some reason, they could not leave, everything happens in life, or those who feel quite comfortable in this movement. yes, with old names such as stalingrad, although

there was no brezhnev soviet union , the operator is standing. новое well, the old ones, of course, but the new ones, the new ghabeshnye inventions, yes, they are coming back immediately, so i think that again , until russia loses this war, until people come to power there who will understand, they will finally understand what they need will condemn islenism and the communist party for entering there, it begins in the 17th year, and guest security crime begins in december, the 17th year . yes, until these new people come to power in russia, nothing good will happen there , and these people will appear, as they might political only as a result of a defeat

in the war that will happen yes, this is just a question of price and time yes but if 80% of the population supports a special operation, then it is perfectly clear that even any defeat can lead to power paradise is real i think even to people also remember that after the second world war, the german society considered itself a victim of everyone's desire to condemn one's own participation in nazi crimes in some way. not so yes that's exactly what 80% and it doesn't matter how many people support putin today and believe me that this process was no less maybe even more in hitler's germany until the very last day of the war and of course not one day, of course, not immediately, but nevertheless, the germans somehow understood that

they had committed a crime, but at the fundamental level , the nazi party, nazi symbols, and germany were prohibited. the new generation does not have a single person who perfectly understands what nazism was for germany, and how much it was a tragedy, first of all for germany, but for all the rest . unfortunately, too, but first of all, it is germany well, from the german point of view, and therefore it will also be in russia , but for this, first, russia must suffer a defeat, well, on a psychological level, comparable to the defeat of germany in 1945 or japan in 1945 , but the warriors will wait in different ways it does not mean at all that it would be necessary for this to happen. how would you occupy the entire russian federation and introduce the army of the victors to the red

square? russia was losing its soldiers and without capturing the capital, and therefore... that this war will end the defeat of russia, well, in a sense, it is already, but no , the war is not over yet, but the defeat of russia is already, as it were, yes , it is simply not realized, it does not rule somne ​​seledee , but finally, the war, which has been going on for almost an hour in this mode, is definitely going on a- and the instructions for the defeat of russia, regardless of how much longer this war is a protracted war, it can last for some time , and it can, by the way, expand to, well, the real formal world, and

the third world. это всё еще может нас ожидат i want to refer to your book fsb взырает россию ее шумевший свое время очень такое знаковой during the chechen wars, you remember, the fsb itself was interested in sabotage and arranged itself not only that some actions of chechen field commanders were used in order to prove to the population that the war good sisters, because you have everyone killed, that ’s what made the difference. objects, and on the other hand, the fsb itself will do something on the territory of russia, you are civilian

objects, and they will present ukrainian participants , and before the first chechen war, and after the second chechen war, and because of the first and the second chechen war, yes, they were organized according to the same scheme, and the terrorist attacks, the outrage of the government and the uprising of the population, and the beginning of the war, yes, and, yes, the wars, and the first and second chechen wars, were organized before the presidential elections, eh, that was of course absolutely everything, no, no. by chance, and now there is already a war, therefore, there are no acts of special services such as provocative acts of sabotage or terrorist attacks that will lead to an escalation of the situation and will give grounds for the three governments to start a war, they are no longer

needed because this war has already begun it's already been a while, as they say, almost yes, so i don't think that the fsb will now spend explosives on blowing up their own residential buildings or their own objects so that it will be blamed on ukraine and thus everything will be on some second stage in this war. i think that there is no need for this , again, from the point of view of the russian leadership . cruelty yes, they are already there, they are bombing the energy system, they are launching rockets

at old people's homes, that is, in fact, when medvedev was there a week ago or a few days ago, he threatened that this is now russia , this is now she. they have nothing more to do with him. well, they have nuclear weapons , they have nuclear weapons , they have the opportunity to destroy or destroy nuclear power plants in ukraine. they have nothing left, and the consequences of nuclear strikes will be frank. we talked about strikes from russia on ukraine or attacks from belarus on europe. these consequences are so important , including for putin, and above all for putin, i think this is a serious deterrent. tsentr э-э сдерживающий э factor for the russian

leadership thank you yuriy falshtinsky, doctor of historical sciences, political scientist, we had an espresso broadcast and a conversation that was devoted to internal processes in russia, understanding the psychology of russian war criminals ready for the continuation of the war. we are ending this hour of ours. i only have to pass the word on to our team angelika sazon , who will now present you with the news of this hour . i will be back in just a few minutes. about how our anti