[000:00:00;00] from the united nations, but i don't really imagine that in russia they agreed to this. well , and so on, how much of a blow to serbian interests is this? i'm talking about oleksandr vuch. well , in fact, i think that this is the only way for serbia at the moment, because uh its big partner russia becomes such an isolated partner , many countries isolate russia and do not write to work , serbia also depends on russia, it depends on the european union, and despite the fact that support for european integration is decreasing in serbia, serbia still strives for it therefore, what the french and german plans have now promised is not very open, but what is heard, at least in the media, is that serbia will receive an accelerated path of integration into the eu, and also certain financial infusions - this is

very important for serbia today, so i i think that this is actually something that is beneficial to serbia, on the other hand, there are many groups in serbia that are against this, they consider serbia to be biased, and they also during this debate that took place these days recently, in fact, they expressed that all of kosovo can not to be independent, kosova cannot join an international organization , etc. but in my opinion, serbia does not have a great choice. because if russia continues to be isolated , then serbia will not receive any funds or support from russia itself, especially since russia is not such an e- is an honest player in relation to serbia, if we recall the history, then russia did not support serbia, did not help when the war began in the 90s , when there was isolation, in fact, sanctions, it later got a little lost in this process, and

russia also did not help in serbia when nato bombed serbia in 1998, that is, russia plays when it is convenient for it, for example, when it comes to kosovo, which is a precedent for international relations, russia always uses kosovo when it talks about the annexation of crimea and says that it is the same for them and taxed crimea as well as kosovo and in fact refers to the right of peoples to self-determination, at the same time serbia does not agree with that and serbia does not recognize either the independence of crimea or the accession of crimea to russia, nor does it recognize the situation that concerns all the occupied territories in in ukraine, in the dpr, the dpr, the lpr, as well as in the zaporizhzhia region and even in those areas that were occupied but already de-occupied, that is, in fact , here and in russia is playing its game and russia is playing its game, but for serbia it is very important now

to move along the path and actually agree to the demands that is making an event for them in order to integrate the european union and in order to perhaps even get rid of this problem that they have now, namely the situation with the kosovo serbs and the documents themselves , if it will be implemented in kosovo as well will create an association, this is fashionable politeness in serbian. this means that serbia will get somewhere. well, not exactly what they want , partly what they are fighting for, but again, mr. mayor, we are talking about serbian promises. i want to return to my question. i can approve any plan , but will i be able to fulfill these promises? i say again to what extent she can fulfill them because she should not prevent kosovo from joining international organizations. well , it is clear that kosovo can join unesco or the un, where a procedure in the council is required.

security of the un, where russia from china can simply impose the right to howl and that's the end of it. what is the point of the plan, which the western states themselves cannot implement? i think this is more about the european union. of course, i agree with the un that russia can block this decision. but also russia may not block it, for example, in order to later gain advantages when it talks about crimea and the dpr of the lpr, that is , russia can also take advantage of this situation to give kosovo, for example, membership of the un and then demand international communities of a certain decision regarding the occupied territories in ukraine, which are and will serbia comply with? i think the question here is how much the west will press, how quickly the west will act regarding their association , if the west will play its game for a very long time, as they are very

actually continued this situation for a long time with the integration of the former yugoslavia and later serbia into the eu because in the former yugoslavia i started negotiations regarding the association even before the wars before the wars that took place in the 90s and this whole process was very long if the west is quick now, it will most likely be able to pull serbia over to its side, because serbia is again financially dependent on the west, and if russia does not come with its funds, or china , for example, they will not be able to convince them that they are ready to support more and more profitably support serbia. i think that it will be more profitable for serbia to move towards the eu . and tell me, mrs. maria, do you think that kosovo will really be ready to create an association of serbian menus in the village, harmony of parities, as the leadership of this republic says about it because we know that they agreed to this, but the majority of kosovars are against this

association, by and large this association is already the dpr or lpr in its purest form, if it is created only legally, it is a little wrong. i agree that the kosovars do not want the creation of this these are associations and in fact they should have been created a long time ago according to all the agreements, but they did not do it here, again , if it is possible to push the west because kosovo is just as dependent on the west for financial support as well as military support and in general the very existence of kosovo now depends on the fact that the international community supports it and the presence of nato forces there . therefore, the first thing is that the west can put pressure on the kosovo government . the serbian part in bosnia is because there is also their own self-government there

, they also live a little separated from uh, this is the eighth in total, and although they have their representative in the government, they also have a certain autonomy, and it seems to me that this such a dangerous thing. since we now see that in this part of bosnia there are constant movements for independence, movements for joining serbia, etc., the same can happen with this association, but i would look at the balkans as a whole as a region that should be included in the european union as a whole union and then these borders will disappear a little and then it will be possible to work, let's say, on the reconciliation of the serbs, because in fact, when we talk about this ongoing conflict in kosovo between the serbs and the albanians, honestly, there is a lot many things that uh, they have been appearing for years, they have been for centuries, that is, they have been killing

each other there, but now, in fact, even after kosovo declared independence , many things have not been resolved and i remember my visit to kosovo, it was still on the 11th in 2011 year, but even then, when we traveled through those serbian enclaves and these serbian monasteries, it was actually clear that the people who live there are very scared, they don't really feel comfortable. i think the same situation continues. and although there are no such murders there now, that in in principle, the police somehow tries to follow some uh, well, more or less rules, they even remember recently , two serbs were injured by a kosovar, so the culprit was brought to uh, responsibility. that is, he was arrested, but still, these are such historical things when uh, people live in a certain passion and they remain, if you don’t work with it , try to somehow reconcile

these peoples, then it won’t do anything, that is, this whole solution, in fact, they will, again , constantly cause some kind of conflicts there protests, etc., i.e. i think we need to clean up this understanding of borders. how are you in the balkans and only then is it possible that these countries will somehow coexist normally plus the economic development of all regions because we see the most problems in those regions where the economic level is quite low, i was the first once in a while today in 1990 in kosovo and i remember very well that such a real apartheid regime was applied to the albanian population when the serbs were also a minority but they did not feel uncomfortable they they felt comfortable, in fact, with the help of military forces, the streets were patrolled by serbian soldiers, albanians could not even go to cafes and restaurants on certain streets, they were simply forbidden to enter. it all looked like

this, the famous grachanitsa monastery looked like the center of an armed attack on albanians, and in a bank went to some hospitals in private homes , gave birth in maternity homes, private homes, schools were in private homes , in fact, in the entire system of such a normal life, hospitals, schools, universities were only serbs of whom there were 10%. acnes are even less, and moreover, the serbs themselves, i lived in a serbian family, at that moment the acnes thought that this is how it should be when i tried to tell them well, how do you live , here they are. look, 90% of your neighbors are albanians, they can't even enter the restaurant where you have dinner they told me what to do, but in the bank in our restaurant i was renting this apartment. the guy in whose room i lived

was mobilized in the army and served somewhere . fortunately, he was not there, and on his bed hung a large portrait of slobod on miloshuyovych and i i concluded that these people do not understand what kind of world they live in and that a complete disaster awaits them. because they just liked that their countrymen were being humiliated. and here is what you told me in 2011. you understand, well, this is a consequence. i agree that this it is necessary to decide, but until the kosovo serbs themselves understand that they were the architects of such a system, nothing will happen, well, i agree. of course, in general , the serbs with their imperialistic things they started all the wars in the balkans they wars started in croatia and bosnia, and there were also attempts by macedonia to shake things up a bit, but because there were not such a large number of serbs there, that is

, they were somehow not united in a group that could move the process and of course that kosovar, which zamiotszevica, was very bloody, but bosnia, too, experienced the same bloody years of war, and in fact, because of that, they have such a deep conflict between themselves and but again, of course, any conflict must continue. when it is over it is needed continue to decide to actually improve relations between people, just don't work with it once, then the serbs will always protest against any little things there, and even we are now watching these protests that took place this year, they are, well, these are small protests, these are small problems that have nothing in common in order to go out and use weapons there. but i understand that the balkans are their style of protest and of course that when there is russia, which has a very good influence on er,

especially the kosovo serbs, it has an influence on er, the serbs in serbia, but the serbs in kosovo have an even greater influence, and she expresses her support for them in order to constantly incite this conflict there, and in order to somehow regulate this conflict, it is necessary to start working. and also, for sure, i i don't know if this will be a solution. if now they sign this association with serbian municipalities, and then, for example, they will start working. and maybe all the countries will simply integrate, let's say in a single one, for example, kosovo will function as a single state. and tell ms. maria, oh, bosnia and herzegovina has finally received the candidate status of the european union. by the way, it also seems to me that this is largely connected with our war, because the europeans were so scared that they decided to grant the status of a country that, in principle, could

still expect it for years i don't know 10 , but to what extent it will directly affect it or not . it was not too late. who are less nationalistic, these are people who are ready to think more democratically about the future of the country. i'm not talking about what happened in posnivska in the serbian part, but in general, now these people who lead the country, we know there are three representatives, one from the serbian or less tire, the second from the croatian, the third from the er, vesnianka, that is, these are the albanians, and there, these are the people who are more democratically inclined, so i think that this is a good moment to start moving the country with these people to the er to

the eu is it too late? i think it's not too late what actually happened before the war in ukraine? europe as a whole had its own approaches to which countries should integrate and what a country has to do in order to be a member of the eu. now it has changed because i really, as the experience of ukraine shows, if you wait too long with e- e european integration of this country, most likely there will be a russia that begins to influence this country or do things like it does in ukraine, for example, it leads a war with ukraine or, for example, it can destabilize the balkans and create a new front line there. therefore yes, for sure, in general, if we say that the eu was late with european integration , not only the balkans of ukraine, but also because i believe that if ukraine had joined the eu or received and we even had associate status a few years ago, maybe we

would have managed to avoid of this war eh or this war would not be as terrible as it is now eh on the other side eh now is a great opportunity for the european union union to review as a whole its policy towards eh membership of other countries is a great opportunity to break these own standards and look at the country for a very long time. and wait, now there is an opportunity to deviate from those principles that were , for example, to join these countries that do not quite meet the requirements, but which are important for ensuring the security of europe . this applies to ukraine as well. and the western balkans, i generally see that it is more optimal for the security of europe to simultaneously integrate the western balkans of these countries that are still not members with kosovo and ukraine in order to create a kind of circle

security, and then when the eu integrates countries, it will still show russia that all countries lie in a series of interests, and it is not an area that russia can influence regarding the negotiation process of ukraine with the european union , if we recall the balkan experience we wonder how many years greece, now bulgaria, blocked the north american negotiation process, and we are still seeing what happened yesterday . it seems that in skopje, they once celebrated another anniversary of the birthday of the macedonian national hero, bulgarian , so much so that whole helicopters were flying over the city. something was blocked, the electricity was turned off at the border in order to prevent any escalation simply because two peoples cannot share one long-dead hero, how much can this

experience affect us in our neighbors? after all, we don't have the balkans, we don't have the balkans. look in the balkans, the problem is internal more than external, they are among themselves they have a lot of their own conflicts eh, of course we understand that , for example, there is the influence of russia and when was the talk eh . i think even the issue of greece is also the influence of russia. i think that when it comes to question it was recently in bulgaria, too, it seems. last year, there was a question in bulgaria about minorities. what macedonians are less in bulgarian is also a question. i think it is also some influence of russia, because, let's say, russia acts in different ways. ways and it can influence the situation, it is not at all obvious, it seems to us that this is an internal matter, but it is not actually what is done by the hands of russia in general in international relations , there are a lot of dramatizations when there after 10 years , something is done in as a result we are not to the end we see a connection, but it exists, but i think that

in fact there have always been conflicts in the balkans due to the fact that there are many ethnic regions - secondly, there are many conflicts that have existed there since the second world war, the times of the ottoman empire, etc. and these things they are somehow so uh actually preserved now uh and the beam of this is very inflammatory it is very easy for them to start a conflict uh because there they are emotionally explosive ukrainians hmm they are not like that we no longer have a threat from the external horn even if we look for example about our war with russia didn't attack ukraine, it didn't attack russia. we wouldn't have internal small wars , even protests are peaceful in general, i don't count the protests that were in the 14th year, but in general we don't want to kill and fight. we want to resolve issues peacefully of course that uh, we can be influenced by some external forces, but it's a little different

, uh, it's not, well, that is, cementally , we are different, that's why i think that we have a threat only from external uh, external interference , i don't know, the continuation of the war uh endless or some other things that can be done with our neighbors or maybe further neighbors , thank you, thank you, thank you, ms. maria galatii, an expert kabaltanist, a candidate of political science and science, we are in touch, and now in these minutes that are left at the end of our broadcast , i will try to answer some uh the questions you asked. do you think the russian federation expects to win the war by pelting us with its cannon fodder, or does it hope to force us into peace talks so that war crimes can be attributed to them? i think there may

be different considerations, of course the idea is to win war er throwing us with cannon fodder is an absolutely logical idea, we have already talked about it, the question is not in our place, not in the russian cannon place, the question is in the ratio of military potentials , mobilization questions in that ukraine is a country in which live about 30 now there are millions of people, and russia is a country of 140 million people, it is obvious that the mobilization potential of the russian federation is much higher than the mobilization potential of ukraine, by the way, this was a classic theme of the second world war when the generals tried to explain to adolf hitler that the mobilization potential of germany is much less than the mobilization potential of the soviet union, the united states and great britain, and that it is the war with the soviet union , often the war from europe, that sooner or later can destroy the german organizational potential if a sufficient number of ambitious potential of others is not involved the european market

was also small, and he did not listen to this, also because he had no idea what price the soviet generals were willing to pay for victory that the ratio of victims will differ many times and that sooner or later there will come a moment when germany will have no soldiers and the soviet union will still have them, even in this war hundreds of thousands, millions , millions of people died and when they say that it was absolutely unavoidable, no, it is not so if we compare the number of victims of the second world war, we will see that the soviet generals or marshals of the negotiations were real butchers, that they deliberately went to destroy a huge number of their own countrymen , knowing that in this way they were destroying

the military potential of the germans, but this is all the logic of the second world war, you understand. this logic is from 70 years ago, because now the most important thing is modern weapons. if we are given modern weapons, if we do not meet with the enemy. and all this happens remotely and if we can by the use of modern weapons to destroy many more people of manpower than the enemy destroys in our country. thus , this whole game of military potential and war of attrition is not justified. it is obvious that in order to understand this, the russian the political leadership needs several things, the first is that the supply of western modern weapons should take place without excesses and that the bar was constantly raised and in such a way that the russian army suffered constant losses, which will already be clear, it will not be possible to restore it just like that, even if

300-400 thousand people are recruited each time for a new new army , the second is time, a certain time is needed, we do not know how long it will be, months or years, in order for the russian political command to understand what the russian military understands team, that is, this simple truth will reach the russian military much sooner than the russian politicians , but the problem of modern russia is that the military does not play any role in it, only the federal security service of the russian federation, headed by vladimir putin, because all the current leaders russia vladimir putin mykola petrovych and bortnikov the current head of the fsb is the former director of the federal security service of the russian federation no other real power between the fsb in the leadership of the russian federation since the 90s

in fact there are no years and it may happen that it is not such a classic system when the special services take over power in the country or the cysts are much worse at dealing with these military matters than the military and therefore it will take time for them to realize the futility of these approaches, we do not know what it may be longer than we imagine how much russia wants negotiations. i often say that despite the fact that many believe that russia wants to enter the negotiation track, i did not really believe their reluctance until the moment it is established that all the territory of ukraine cannot be captured, you understand all the current victories, the so-called donbas, luhansk, kherson, zaporozhye, that’s all there is no great strategic importance, when you have

odesa, this is a real opportunity for you to strengthen even more on the black sea, go to moldova , capture moldova, this is clear. when you go west and in the end - finally, the russian tank army finds itself in uzhgorod. it holds several countries of central europe by the throat . at the same time, this is a victory, these are several areas that can only be a bridgehead for further actions against ukraine for the sake of this, to hold some negotiations, to record some conditional territorial gains. to be honest, i do not see a great russian interest in this, so i think that until the moment in the kremlin they consider themselves capable of a bigger issue , try to do more, no proposals

will be put forward if proposals from will appear , it will be a clear, clear demand for ukraine to recognize the fact that donetsk, luhansk, kherson , zaporizhzhia region, this crimea is part of the russian federation, withdraw its troops from those territories of kherson, zaporizhzhia regions where ukrainian troops are located, pay reparations for the destroyed structure, sign a neutrality agreement, refuse military cooperation, and the united states withdraw the latest weapons from the territory of ukraine, and this will be a moment when russia can, under certain conditions, and will still give denazification, of course, the current ukrainian leadership should leave ukrainians must agree that people who were participants in political processes from the 14th year until the 23rd can no longer hold positions no positions, this will also be a requirement, i am convinced that if the ukrainians agree to this, the russians can stop hostilities, it is probably time, but it will not be like that, we want soapy

negotiations that everything will be given to you and all the conditions will be absolutely humiliating for ukraine , they will be just like that so that the ukrainians do not could fulfill them or that in the case of their fulfillment , a civil war would start in ukraine itself. what would make it easier for russia - the occupation of ukrainian territory is also an absolutely important option, and i always say to hope for the common sense of the russian the attitude of the political leadership is wrong, it has not changed, the exit to the borders in 1991 everywhere until the moment in the kremlin does not realize that it is impossible, they will fight if they realize that it is possible to stop the war from russia with ukraine but start some combat operations in other directions, well, they can postpone some combat operations current actions in other directions, however, i also have a huge doubt

that now russia has a potential of decimeters and then with whom to fight with kazakhstan, which is a member of the csto from georgia, well with georgia. maybe, but now it seems to me that there is no such priority with azerbaijanis in russia understand the allied relationship, in order to find a new victim, it is necessary at least that this victim looks even from the point of view of the political tasks of the russian federation, as ukraine looks like after the maidan of 2013-2014, which was clear that this country has actually left the russian sphere of influence in relation to other former soviet republics, almost all of them except ukraine and moldova and to some extent georgia , there is no such confidence, all the others consider them frozen as political refrigerators, sooner or later it will be possible to get them out of there and

take away that is why ukraine, moldova and georgia are now the first military targets of the russian federation. and all the others will follow after the very possibility of these countries to make sovereign decisions is eliminated. i will say goodbye to you until the next meetings, friends, good luck, we are making victories, vitaly, the brain, i will tell you the operational situation from the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine. invaders what exactly informs in a few