[000:00:00;00] with the package, let me remind you that ukraine submitted an application for membership, after that such applications were also submitted by georgia and moldova, and ukraine received candidate status and moldova received candidate status, and now when we are talking about submitting steps to start negotiations, because it is already joining the european union we are aware that similar decisions are being made in relation to moldova, unless, of course , the political lens and political configuration will radically change . in the country itself, we now see the situation in despite georgia's great desire and, let's say, the rules of the european union, where enlargement countries proceed in groups, the eu was still unable to grant georgia the status of candidates, and we hope that there will be no such radical changes in moldova, and as long as the situation is stable enough, they will follow us, mrs.

olya there were, you know, different opinions , a bit populist in my opinion, which related to the fact that the next day after ukraine wins over the russian federation, it becomes a member of the european union and nato, and so on. can you imagine that our country, which is firstly a territory of hostilities and secondly a participant in direct hostilities, would in the foreseeable future begin the real process of joining the eu because the president outlined the perspective for 2 years, we have a signal from our partners 5-7 years well, what we know from the media, at least during the war, we can combine our progress into the european union, in fact, i would say that after our victory, we already understand that there is no alternative option for ending the war

very quickly, a decision can be made about ukraine's membership in nato, and today i can confirm that such a decision requires only the political consensus of all 30 allies regarding the european union, this decision on ukraine's accession to the eu should be primarily in the interests of ukraine, so there is certainly no need to rush politically here it is a long process, but our political task is that while we are politicians , government officials , as people who do not stand with weapons. maximum readiness, maximally completed or formed negotiating positions so that when the war is over, we do not waste time on the process and can already proceed to the adoption of political decisions, therefore, in fact, it is already underway

, we recorded the beginning of self- assessment self-screening based on the report provided by the european commission and preparation for negotiations, that is why we are in a hurry to start negotiations in the 23rd year, in order to prepare for them as much as possible and, er, to conduct them promptly, and by the end of the war, we will be ready to join the european union, that's why actually the speed of this process usually depends on the european union, but also to a large extent on ourselves, what danger for the european integration of ukraine can be the so-called bilateral conflicts, bilateral claims well, i think you understand what we are talking about , i will give as an example the blockade of north macedonia, bulgaria, the negotiations you are smiling because you know what we are leading to, and before that greece, hungary from italy . to be honest, yes, i said that when

we talk about the issue of the law on the constitutional court, we must realize that now we believe that these are problematic issues, but this is only the beginning, and i think that precisely the issues of ukraine's accession to the eu will be much more interesting cases in our country than there were with north macedonia or, before that , just macedonia. minorities or issues that we don't even talk about today as problematic. yes , today we ask, we concentrate on issues such as the rule of law, anti-corruption, economic reforms, but for the membership. maybe at the end of the day , when the negotiations will be completed, and the biggest a stumbling block will be those issues that do not even exist for us, are not currently key or turning points, for example, i don't know that we are not growing asparagus in western ukraine

that meets european standards, or that we are oppressing some national minorities. i think that it is in first of all, it will be an interesting process from our side, of course there is a maximum positive attitude, but we have to understand that the nature of the negotiations, the nature of the development of ukraine in general, understanding that we will become a member of the eu, it will be completely different. thank you to you mrs. olya olga stefanishyna , deputy prime minister for european and euro-atlantic integration of ukraine , who really had a busy week in connection with the ukraine-eu summit. anxieties, and our european partners and guests are arriving, ukrainian capitals are communicating with us and our leaders , however, how quickly

, under what conditions, and how should we better prepare for joining the european union, but charles michel's thesis, in particular, about what we will to support ukraine as much as necessary and with all that is necessary, this is a very clear signal that ukraine will not remain in any way one-on-one with russian aggression if someone does not tire and does not try to tire european society and society overseas, do we have the next guest, dear editors, and we are happy to welcome mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine , joins our broadcast glory to ukraine good evening good evening congratulations, so let's talk about parliamentary ee i would say worries these days because it is obvious that the european integration of legislative activity is impossible. and so let's start with the law

on duties . how much does this law on media in principle harm-help our european integration? and this law is perhaps more in line with european norms than the law, for example, on the constitutional court, which does not correspond to the brothers at all, there are several norms that look absurd, one of them is er, the independence of the regulator is too little, and everyone writes and talks about it, international journalistic organizations , the law actually restores the existence of state television, which , of course, is also, to put it mildly, unacceptable for any european country, because in european countries, television is commercial or public or public, but not state the state does not have the right to engage in propaganda through television, in our country the state only does this, there is too much control over the electronic media. in a word, there is work to be done, although in general this law is better than many other laws that are called european. and what is the phenomenon, why in general

our european partners positively evaluate the law on media, but inside the country we still have discussions not only among media people. by the way, look at the european partners, they all say that our regulator is not is independent as a big deal from the president's office and this is unacceptable, this is what european partners say , they positively note all the great work done by the huge groups that worked on this law for many years years in order for this law to comply with european conventions and european traditions, that is, it is generally not bad, it’s just that there are several points that are unacceptable in european society, we are now talking about them . p. mykola, another such bright event

. i would say no . a number of events this week are actually searches that took place. in our country, all this is by the forces of the security service. let it be so by the forces of the security service of ukraine by the forces of the state bureau of investigation . the national anti-corruption bureau has joined in some cases. the activity of the law enforcement system in our country depends on the political decision, which, it seems to me, in a democratic state should, as they say, at least stones from the sky, but simply perform their functions, well, it is true, when our high officials say that it is their merit the fact that the law enforcement agencies have started to search someone there, it certainly looks funny and undemocratic because the law enforcement agencies are independent everywhere, here you are now showing ihor valeryovich kolomoisky, as soon as you need

to take something from someone or do something bad , they immediately come to the games valeryovich kolomoisky, but we do the same to him it's not good, but the thing is not bad at the same time. we saw how the employees of the investigative bodies of the sbu came to him. they were very polite . well, it seems like the sbu took off their shoes. they stayed for half an hour, i don't know if they drank tea, it's such a nice, pleasant search, eh, what is its meaning, except to show that vlada is allegedly fighting for igor valeriyovych kolomoisky, because many people associate him with vlada, eh well, that's how it looks from the outside, it's strange i am somehow not happy about the search, you understand. because when they say we conducted a search, it is simply one of the investigative actions . these people

are really guilty, then we will talk about the effectiveness of the law enforcement system. and we have this whole fight against corruption, it is very media but not very effective, so i noticed that there were photos of a large amount of cash that was lying in the possession of one of the deputy ministers of defense, this amount of cash was found in the summer, and now from a pr point of view, it was important to show it, tell about it, and they didn’t even confiscate it because this deputy minister said that he borrowed some pensioner or she gave him the money for safekeeping and returned it returned a lot of media as a result, and whether there will be a result, we will see the agreement. in principle, how much do you think that our western partners can be satisfied with such an anti-corruption fight? i think our western partners are not stupid because they watch one television marathon and get information not from one source of some ukrainian special service, and they communicate with people, monitor what is happening and the anti-corruption fight, when it will be systematic and effective and

will not depend on the first person in the state or from the second or from the third, then i think they will be satisfied with it. and in this case, no one can be satisfied with showing off. i think i will not speak in general . it is possible that there are professional people in the investigative bodies, and some of them really work professionally, but so much in one day it just seems that the degree of show off in these actions is very large, designed for western partners, but i don't believe that it will work, mykola , the audit of the united states, the audit of this aid , which we will receive from them, and almost synchronously, scandals in the ministry of defense and also, i'm sorry for the corruption bracket or the potentially corrupt bracket, do you not think that in particular this media coverage of these searches is perhaps aimed at ending the essentially , well, very resonant story when, i'm sorry , the whole world is going to war against us, although

there is food for the military - we provide this with our taxes. but nevertheless, if the ministry of defense would allow itself such a story with possible embezzlement, well, look at us. people chose the media power for its media power and its actions on the power that knows how to work in the media he continues to work as he knows how, sometimes we have all the media people, so our president is not the head of the administration, but there are many other media people around, and sometimes it plays into a plus, because when the president speaks artistically, he addresses some parliament of the world, people they applaud and it helps a lot in the country, er, sometimes it plays into the negative, when in reality the fight against abuse is covered up with ostentatious searches by some kind of media , they show notes well, really, an official should not write such notes, it shows the level and those who were appointed and those who were appointed because all these people who were searched were appointed by the same media people and

they convinced us all that these are the best people who do not engage in corruption at all, new faces , now they have arrived, these are all people appointed by them , and they turn out to be writing memos that i dream of millions and go to london and the maldives. it seems so, but on the other hand, writing it is not a crime, but it also looks fashionable, but what was the crime of this person, whom everyone attacked, and it is not clear, it shows the level of the intended of the current government and its officials. but we do not know whether they are criminals yet. of course, we would like to move from mediaism to a serious policy of responsibility, because you cannot win a war with mediaism alone. although , as i have already said, mediaism adds a lot to this and is also sometimes useful. tell me, speaking of mediocrity , the story of resignations in the ministry of defense even began to appear, the fake russian passport of one of the officials is an attempt

to undermine the very idea of ​​trust in military news to promote vera, but look at this official, we are talking about mr. aliyev, he was once appointed, well, he really took a pro-russian position , well, we have many of them. different positions in one's life, but when a person chooses a certain moment and follows his choice, it is important to take this into account. crimea and you remember all these stories. i also knew because he worked in the media . at first i was surprised by his appointment there with such a biography, but when he worked in the ministry of defense. if he was accused of stealing something, buying it too expensively

or not buying cheaply then i remembered his past and said he has not changed, nothing was there, and if there are such provocations that arose with this passport, which was thrown through a fairly popular media, and this media has been investigated several times by independent actions the meeting speculated and changed the signatures. one time they wrote, they gave intelligence, the second they painted, they gave the investigative bodies, they gave someone else, someone else , then in the end they took it away, they apologized because it was clearly a fake, so there may be several uh, well, lviv left , i assume that some the group that fought for the removal of the league a threw all this away, spread the word and achieved the point that he left, was there any harm from his work or was there any benefit, i don't know, it could be like this, it could be different, whether there would be harm or benefit from someone in us from some the successor is also unknown to me, but the fact that it was such a large-scale provocation, uh, where they used it, including i think many media and many decent people, as

they say in the dark, because somehow a counter-protest company suddenly started, no new facts from his biography became known he worked for the ministry of defense for a long time, the fact that he was a member of the party of regions once was also known to everyone for a long time , everyone wrote about it, but somehow a company is rising, a person is being blackmailed. it turns out that half of the facts are a fictional person leaving. this means that someone is fighting with this person to take away the trade winds from honest decent people who would like to see patriots in the government and it is necessary to explain to the society what it was, what it was connected with, who did it definitely. a lot of questions arise here and immediately arise the question about the media you understand because er we are often used er in trying to be popular use any methods in order to cause not love for rich people all rich scoundrels cause not love for that person who can in the past something once she said, so far, no one appreciates what a person is doing now, what benefit and harm does she bring, what benefit and harm

do these or other enterprises, firms, or these or other laws in our country are very superficial , such a journalist and this makes it very easy for us to manipulate a state expert the commission this week in e-e published its exhibits regarding the statute of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarch well and made obvious conclusions that can be frankly uninvited to make about the fact that the canonical connection of the uoc mp and i would say that the institutional connection of the uoc mp with the russian orthodox church is not lost, even if we take into account the new statute of the uoc mp, which is little . i don't know who saw it. did you see it? yes, of course i saw it. but i read it and he does not in any way deny the connection with the russian orthodox church, so now after these conclusions of the state commission, there are now two laws, one

and ours 8221, which proposes taking into account national security reasons like this allows the international convention of the european court to ban the activities of organizations related to the russian orthodox church, in this case it also applies to the so-called uoc mp because, as you already said, this examination proved that they are connected to the russian orthodox church. even if it did not prove this, you and i knew it perfectly well without any expertise and long ago they could either be banned or forced to make such a statute and such legal actions that would prove that they have no connection to the rpc, but they don't do it, they don't do it on purpose. they turn to the un they talk about the persecution, they themselves confirm every time that they are part of the rpc, look, the war started because the rpc shouted about it and the russian leaders said that they do not give freedom of religion here, they oppress the so-called russian-speaking population, they limit freedom of speech, everything

whatever it is, it’s supposed to be that everything didn’t happen before the war , didn’t the uoc mp once object to this? did they say that putin is wrong? did they say that russia is a criminal country? an organization that harms national security. instead, we have a government project, our law is not brought to the floor. the government project is so weak that it will be practically impossible to limit the activities of the so-called branches of the russian communist party with its help, and it will take years, and that is why it seems to me that someone does not want to stop this activity of the rpc because of some goals, i think it is they themselves because they have always had huge funds behind them, half of the party of regions went there, they were financed on part of all people, they will impose sanctions, but not on everyone and their influence

state structures and extremely large. unfortunately, it remains and now, that is, in fact , we can say that laws can be adopted. - if it does not exist, then the state cannot recognize that it is orthodox, because we have signed the relevant documents with the ecumenical patriarchate, we have a single orthodox church - it is illegal to exist as a religious association which has no ties with the russian people's republic of ukraine, they will be able to. and if they do not separate, then they will not be able to if we accept the law submitted to the cabinet of ministers, this law submitted to the cabinet of ministers will not stop their activities, will be challenged in european courts, will simulate a struggle with them for the next few years, and they are the closest will continue to exist for several years. thank you, mr. mykola

, for this inclusion. mykola knyazhytskyi, people's deputy of ukraine. fields of cinema is an apology port music education free people have a choice choose what you want on megogo art in a country of war a series of documentaries, each of which will tell about one of the ukrainian artists artists who did not go abroad and continue their creative path in ukraine, well, the impression is that just the story entered now, yes, in some such, er, this moment where everything just gathered in it as linearly, so what happened there that we remember then, it was a kind of drag, and it seems that now it is all in one moment and we

we see that well, everything repeats itself against how the place and meaning of the artist and his work change. in a country at war, watch the new tv series from the docnotfield studio and the babylon 13 association art in a country at war from january 16 on weekdays from monday to friday at 11 :10 for espresso so, we continue the program of the saturday flight khrystyna yatskiv and vitaly portnikov, we asked our guests about their reflections on themselves, ukraine, the eu, but it seems to me, vitaly, you also need to share your impressions, well, unique in fact, the event of its kind is only such after my personal taste, uh, it seems that because of the war, no one will give us special discounts, and after all, the issue of our reformation and the achievement of certain standards is the first priority. and what do you think, i think so too

, i think that in principle certain processes can be accelerated , it can be the good will of the european commission . have left behind the status of a candidate for membership of the european union, i will remind you that we are a candidate scientist of the european union, this has never happened before, only my moldova got into such a situation that first you are candidates and then you fulfill the conditions, as a rule, everything happens exactly the opposite. first, you fulfill the conditions and then you become a candidate, but in connection with the war, absolutely everything has been changed and now there are generally tectonic changes in connection with this, because bosnia and herzegovina became a candidate of the european union, on the one hand, it is good, but

on the other hand, it does not make our task any easier , because as you understand, when there are many candidates in the complex, it is necessary to say that ukraine will enter the european union earlier than these countries that have become candidates . the issue of schengen was considered for romania, bulgaria, and they did not receive schengen. by the way, bulgaria had every chance, but did not receive it precisely because it received romania, romania did not receive romania, and romania did not receive it because austria did not want it and some austrian politicians asked their government. and tell me, please, are you all the time lobbying for membership in the european union of the western balkans? austria really all the time says that it is necessary for bosnia to accept a candidate as a member and is striving for this. and who will pay attention to you if you stop romania at schengen, romania, members of the european union. she can stop

any of your initiatives. and we have to realize this. we talked about it yesterday with mr. kubilis, the members of the european parliament and the former president of lithuania, and he says so there is a desire to reform the european union in such a way that there is no veto right, vyta, but i don’t really believe in it. all attempts to reform the european union so that there is no veto right are always met with the obvious position of a larger number of members , because that is what they fear most of all. small countries by population size by influence because all their influence is in this landscape, it is obvious that germany or france and italy have other leverage, huge money is given to the european ally by such an economy, and the countries that receive the money are nothing. apart from that they do not have this opportunity to listen to them, this is one point, another point is that

in any case, all sections of these negotiations must be closed. even if we imagine that the negotiations will begin as soon as possible. it is also very fast they still have several years to happen because each section presupposes that the legislation of ukraine changes and conforms to the legislation of the european union that the parliament votes for it and only after these sections are shown that this is our legislation and there will be a lot moments that many people will like, not only the deputies but also the society, it will not be closed, i have different rates from 5 to 10 years, we will assume that it is 5, but then i keep reminding you that there are points in this list of negotiating articles here where does ecology go, there is a court case , and there is such a point at the end of the last one, it is called different, but

for the republic of serbia, it is different, it is the normalization of relations with kosovo, and the republic of serbia said the european commissioner and we will first close all the articles and then normalize relations with a braid and everything i told you no. sorry, you first complete the miscellaneous item, there is no such a clear sequence, and then we will return to the article of legislation, can all laws be changed? this is your problem, complete the miscellaneous item, and then we will begin to consider everything this is and recently there were representatives of the european union in belgorod who clearly told the president of serbia that either you solve this case or first all negotiations are frozen for an indefinite period and sanctions are introduced against you. they receive no of money as a candidate country or not for the european one, yesterday was a session of the parliament in bolgrad, there was a wild hysteria of the serbs, they humiliate themselves, they give away the most er, they take away the most

important territorial integrity of the country, and we cannot behave like this, they want to trample us, they want to destroy us, we love russia so much, everything it was said against the president's program, so did as many as 23 deputies out of two hundred vote, well, that means we are also waiting for it. it is impossible to say it, it violates our principle - it violates our opportunities , and then they will vote for it in front of an incredibly surprised society, as it is now happening in serbia, now the question is what we will write in this item, which is the problem of national minorities with hungary, romania , the creation of a historical commission with poland or a solution to the problem of the russian national minority in crimea oh, how interesting is the information tell him that the united states of the european union countries believe that kosovo

cannot be accepted into the council of europe even if serbia agrees to this, until kosovo creates an association of serbian female police officers, that is, it will allow the areas of the population of kosovo to unite into one quasi-state institution. i would say an institution. you understand that the creation of such an institution is not supported by 100% of kosovar albanians. well, i am afraid that kosovo will go for it well, because the visa-free regime , because i want to become a candidate for eu membership , i want a lot of things. and here we see two countries that are so affected by the european union. and we don't have two countries, we have one ukraine because the european union will not influence russia. russia is not going to join the european union and it is absolutely not to be sneezed at . what does the west think about it? and they will be able to impose such conditions on us. ukraine likes everyone, they say let's