[000:00:00;00] we are losing quality potential, and quality grades are deteriorating there, they work mostly at low level, there they work, how do they succeed? how do they succeed in different ways, well, the vast majority definitely, and i think that these whose children are of university age and close or close to him will not return, well, here we are at the beginning we talked, i don't remember with whom on the air of the marathon er and er someone is also one of the researchers of this direction, he says that if the children who went abroad in september go to school abroad, then the probability their return to ukraine. you see how your theses are. yes, in your head, you know, in general, every

month is an additional month of war. it brings us huge losses in terms of human potential . there are two processes here, and both go in the same direction. every month of war is additional destruction in ukraine, the economy is destroyed. housing is being destroyed, people will have nowhere to work , return to find a job, and will have nowhere to live . because of the fact that mostly people from kyiv and kharkiv went, and it was not easy to go, you know, a woman who is used to orienting herself to the help of her husband or father or someone else, she will not go abroad with her children alone. educated, strong, and so on, not all of them left, not all of them left, but

the vast majority of those who left , there was a meeting, it was somewhere a month at the beginning of the academic year, there was a meeting of the ministers of education, er, already seven. well, they were invited ukraine there. and absolutely all the ministers emphasized not only the extremely high level of training of our children, school students and university students, but it seems to me that the family where children of high school age or are already studying have entered the university there , there is the greatest risk of not returning because, well, you know, the child already has a chance for a bright future there, but here it is unknown where to return , and the risk is related to the fact that, firstly, they will not return, and secondly, the reunification of families

will take place after the removal. the question is where ukraine is the bright future of ukraine, can we say that when we dream that everything will end with victory? in fact, everything is just beginning, but in today's case , the main goal is the first stage and what unites us. as you said on our broadcast, it is the belief in victory . that's why we believe in loyalty, confidence and faith, and about other issues , the children in the armed forces of ukraine are sure of victory and that's all.

ether, if we fight, our children protect theirs, when the light goes out everywhere, they continue to fight for life every day, every day, every second during the war, and hospitals have become fortresses of light, where they heal not only the body through fatigue and pain, they continue to protect the light of hope, i am the reward of our smiles and embrace their joy, another saved person they know this not every life has that's why they keep the light inside us, we are grateful to the doctors who continue to save people

despite the darkness outside the window thank you it's hard to hold the rear when the children are at the front, what's up? they got out without casualties, but it's worth it when i found a working store in three letters, it's closed, there's no light, please, here's this bouquet, i'm lucky. it doesn't disappear in our country. so here 's a generator on the street humming ukrainian veterans background money, the fund helps veteran enterprises, it’s interesting and what is needed for this, only fop and ubd

, this is for example how my husband and i have a family business up to 20 thousand hryvnias, they give it, i understand. it’s great, thank you for the bouquet of support for the ukrainian veteran business already now, find out the details on the website or by phone number, you will feel it on yourself later, and we will feel it on ourselves when first i carry it in my arms and say my heroes , then they will say we didn't send you there, i'm going to berlin, i'm going back to the planet from there well, i dream that when our people vote in the future, they would at least google the one for whom they are going to vote, but in the following way, if the ukrainians win, it will be there that a strong state supports the

weak, supports strong men who go abroad i think that we should leave the right to vote, well, this is my personal opinion . where do you want to hear from you? well , specifically what they focused on, i would say they even focused society . it's not focused at all, it's just ugh, it's focused in you, it's defocused, and in me, it's focused, it's focused on 17 eggs, 20 potatoes, in halimon's apartment, which was bought during the war and at iranian factories, well, partially, but well again it's in the flow oh how good what does it mean akhediv will reduce on our heads and let's i and this is an incomplete list on the personnel official paddy na all this will not happen if

everyone does not focus on victory wins wars army army wins war but everyone should focus on army, everyone should know that one way or another, our enemy is not as stupid as we would like, you can't underestimate the enemy, and sometimes when you are conducting some combat operations , you shouldn't overestimate yourself, you can too make a mistake somewhere, you can lose, but then you can win, for example, now there, er, russia has invaded ukraine on a full scale , that is, well, she did not fulfill her task, at least she lost a lot of territory, what is she doing , she er, learned from her mistakes, moved away from kherson, well, that is, and they pressed, but she stood on the shore, because on the shore of the dnieper river, she released part of the forces, they sent them in another

direction, optimization, yes, that's it, well, i'll tell you honestly , i'm upset. what did the russians begin to think? there won't be any eggs at all, not at all, we're just 17 saw it, many people don't understand it. we saw it. there were no eggs in mariupol in the months of february, march-april, may . there was no gas at all. there was no money, and the money didn't work. it was necessary, that's the main thing . we don't need money now. you just have to understand that. the most attentive probably the most important part of society is the military, we are now from various units of the armed forces of ukraine , the state security service of ukraine, we have half of the national guard of ukraine, we send money to another unit in another direction and they send

when we have it worse, well, this is serious, why do we need money, why do we need cars, apartments, eggs, and so on, because military aid is flowing and western partners are equipping and managing people there, people are taking people from us, endless, not endless, people have thought a lot. how come corruption during wars, what should be filmed there? you understand, in this case, this is an absolutely permanent history of ukraine without corruption, and that is, to pay attention to it at all now, i think that it is not because of this that it refocuses the attention of society or not, it is a combination of interests it can simply be a part of this great whirlwind in which it spins like a whirlwind. that is, it is such a passing thought , i thought about it somewhere there, well, on, on, on , this week, i just looked at the trends , saw the schematics, saw the algorithms, so , if these are planned actions, yes, to

to dissolve everyone with everyone divides young yes to maximize conflicts in society to maximize some personal conflicts to maximize these to sort out yes and all this has been blooming in the world for the last two weeks exactly the last two weeks, that is, information has been maximized attention to this and this is what i am talking about focuses if a person is, for example, focused , even in the current conditions, on just going to feed his own dog there , babysit his child there, and drop him off there if he is done there, blame the ukrainian army don't occupy yourself with other problems, it might be even better for us if she will sit there for half a day and sit on facebook and very, very carefully follow who who called who, who sent whom, and why they have an old struggle there that is still starting there since 2000 there i don’t know 8th 20th there 14th 15th any year here i am this is an abstract example it’s just i’m not talking about specific people ah

and again, speaking of personal responsibility, excuse me for distracting attention russian psa - this is of course good, but it is the task of people to defeat this psa, not to behave towards him, to say more, but we take part in this we take part, not the russians will and we take part in this that is, every time we even discuss this topic , do you see, for example problems and half it is in action in the information field yes, it must mean that we are already participating in this discussion, that means, but still you can't ignore it, you can't ignore this calculation and you just have to distribute levels of attention and dosed information filtered information information checked in the first place yes and again , it's unfocused leads to the fact that a person takes information from the newspaper district of a tabloid of the lowest quality, where there can simply be humorous news or organic news

. well, it happens there. russians are often conducted, they really see the news from the panorama because it is true, it all happens as well. this is what i believe . personally, i believe that it is a person's responsibility to be able to filter information . now the military are people by which they compare their lives, their actions, their thoughts. if there is such a conflict in civil society, there are always people, and i look even on youtube, who has the most views , the most views of a military person who speaks, for example, his attitude about those or other phenomena and events in the life of society. i just want to say that many people now appear in military uniforms and we

actually call them . - these are people who know how to speak. yes, they speak better than us because we have her. well, she is the focused center of attention, well , about the war, they can make us suffer about politics, who quarreled with whom, who reconciled with whom, who on whom there he sharpened his teeth and so on and people sit and are like, damn, he says smart things , but i'm all confused. i'm sure i'll listen to him , well, i think that's how it happens, and the only thing i would advise society to do is look at a person in the wrong way. what i saw the cover, i see that he's in a military uniform, he's still a military man, or he's somewhere in armored vehicles in fairy tales near bakhmut, he came on a plane to take pictures and left there in a day and that's it. he was in bakhmut there, it's cool, it's cool. no

, you have to listen to the military, i'm sure now in what what are you saying, that the military should be authoritative, uh, it's an authoritative opinion, but the real military and to find out if it's real it's a military man or not we need to open youtube there, i'm sure i don't know instagram , telegram channels and so on, yes, and take a look , or it happens that this person is in the trenches and exactly in the trenches because in bakhmut i will tell you right now that any person can come right now and any person can go from there to the center of bakhmut under this plane and with it well 99% that nothing it will happen, but all the fiat family were submitted, he was in bakhmut, you understand, and here i am just excuse me, please, just for one moment . i want to add that what you say is that we have democracy. and you know, this is already such a philosophical question that i will ask myself. probably a little later, when we finish it . and when democracy ends

. dpr separatists are democracy. well, i believe that everything that is anti-state, everything that puts the existence of the state under er-e threat is. well, outside of democracy, it must be cut off when, again, during martial law , when during the war against the russian federation . someone is planning something there stab there and so more well, that is, anti-state things, this is. well, this is outside of democracy. i think so because you can play with it, so i say , well, i mean, we are definitely out of politics. we are definitely military and we will prove it, and i think we have already proven it . to be constantly at the front, but this does not exclude the fact that, for example, telegram channels measure the ratings of politicians and political forces and are now very active

. to whom do we say there about the ministry of internal affairs, for example, you can hear me from yes and military personnel. well, because it is not a rating of support like that of a political candidate , it is simply a rating of public approval and that or trust but again, well, trust , the opinion of people is very easy to manipulate, there are mechanisms, there are concepts, there are ideas and it is very simple, well, schematically, yes, in fact, simple , well, informational, well , it is clogged with certain correct narratives, and the perception of a person changes . it deforms thinking. so, the big problem is that, well, speaking of it, not all people are there, now a lot of people in uniform have been released. yes, not all people in uniform are military and not all military are immediately authoritative experts

, yes, that is, the authority must be exclusively how is it from expertise from experience from understanding what a person does and not just there is a bright smile yes or there is an interesting pleasant charismatic person, although this is also not bad , in particular vylia, you travel a lot now around the world and have visited a lot of countries talked with many people you looked at people looked at you people you became such a certain er a certain parliamentarian yes from ukraine er and i am interested directly for you interested in davos because the world of heroes has come to the world of business and to the world of people er i am interested in the rich and famous. and what was the different perception of you there? well, it is not only the world of the rich and famous there. well, i personally succeeded there . i spent

more time in the new ukrainian home. it's different there expositions in a different way in other places, oh, it was interesting, because i already had a certain understanding of how this event is organized, and how this whole system is organized, well , the organizers gave me plans there. yes, what will be there, which i can visit there, for example there elements of the exposition there are panels from the excursion and the car. yes, yes, there were several elements there, artistic, cultural, economic or networking. well, how does it actually take place there, yes, and we will meet a large number of people there, both from our country and from other countries of politics dared to approach you simpler questions will do. it's about different things. well, you understand what you can ask a person you don't know about. ilya samoilenko came from ukraine. azovstal. a lot of

work was done in the plan. well, our first panel. yes. where we spoke from the mass of tayro, we already gave a lot of answers. to the questions that we ask people could arise yes. that is, we talked about our approach to understanding and so on, and well, between the mission, i was familiar with us there before that. yes, speaking of the topic that was raised, this is the positioning of the ukrainians in the war, yes, this is the positioning of the country in relation to others in relation to the world, and this is readiness, for example. questions, but they were mostly philosophical-sophisticated , rhetorical. well , we could talk

, but we gave concrete examples. moscow or something, there were several answers to this question, they told me more themselves, well, you understand the confusion of the people who were in the west, it is very strong, they look at us and tremble, it is normal , absolutely, as he reassured me, and well, there is no problem with this, they do not know what to ask, they don't know how to behave. they , uh, it's possible, it's possible, i want people to transform this guilt complex rationally, not into their own trauma , not into self-deprecation and self-aggrandizement , on the contrary, well, this is our approach, that is, people they think that we have troops there. we select special, ideal, genetically modified super soldiers, yes, of course. it would be cool, of course, if such technologies were available

. i'll tell you honestly, i'm like that, i try to hide such a look, but i look at you in the same way, of course, people, if the team wants to, uh, he showed us to enter. this also enter for which it sounded yes, we can teach how to be professional, how to become a hero, heroism, henritot, i then said to this phrase, well, it has the form that simply has to change the consciousness of people, and talking with our soldiers, i understand that well, everyone has a world basic round civilian any yes that is, someone there is an athlete, someone is a teacher, someone is there , i don’t know, a scientist, someone is an electric welder, someone is an artist on there , a cinematographer or there, or with a camera and so on

, but we combine everyone into one big correct system and we can teach their to do right, think right, act right, we do it systematically, they are born, they are not born, but speaking there about the military perception of agroism yes, there is only one formula , heroism is there where there is no or failed planning, that is why they succeeded here with their own charisma, and they are ready to cooperate with ukraine in the sense that well, if they are allowed something more, then they will really go far. and we have our own civilized world here , which is already equipped for what, ukraine, do you understand this provocation that i am placing in this the truth is that i also managed to raise questions and problems about the economy. well, this is an economic moment . the ukrainian economy is currently going through very difficult times. the second fact is the world economy

because of the ukrainian economy because of the crisis in the ukrainian economy. and the recycling sector, the metallurgical sector, the oil and gas sector, the heavy engineering industry, as well as the sphere of production of military equipment and ammunition there , most likely it will now simply have stones sky rocker just graphics on just hm production but not in our country of course and this n- this also needs to be addressed very much well the world is not interested in the fact that the ukrainian war sold continued for a long time on the one hand on the other hand very much interested but again we don't really need to worry about it. well, not really, not really . when you think about it , you think about some big global problems , yes. okay, the world economy, yes, there is a financial

crisis. yes, yes, the world military crisis. political yes and also global warming oh-oh-oh attention grabber the problem is here now ukrainians should not think that someone will come and solve their problems there or uncle sam or someone else yes or which savages it doesn’t matter the only people who can solve our problems are us the world itself is interested in the fact that ukraine was prosperous and rich. well, what did you feel about what i want to say? well, this is the question you are asking. well, i understand the provocation, and regarding the first question, i just noticed that foreigners often ask even there when we give interviews this question

is often asked, what is ukraine ready to do to win the war? and i believe that the answer can be: well, for ukrainians, everything is clear. ukraine will be, well, it will always be free, it will always be free. that is, we are ready to go to death for the sake of independence. of our country, and because of this they are already foreigners , yes, they form their own ideas, if they are not ready to surrender, we will help them more, but in the following way, if the ukrainians win, it will be there, a strong state supports the weak, supports the strong, yes well, no, i am talking about something else, the problem will be strong with the state with which we will have to reckon, i understand what you are talking about, and i think it is the task of our government directly to solve this issue, well, about that. you can think about it, you can talk somewhere, but

then yes but then we have to we have to win the war and then is the russian federation the only enemy for ukraine no but at the moment that is exactly at the moment so what about the azov regiment of the armed forces of the armed forces of the ministry of internal affairs of that armed forces the brevity of the legend of the city on today, the azov regiment, which is the defenders of mariupol, which are those who were captured or were evacuated by helicopter after being wounded, is currently in the national guard and will be expanded to the national guard brigade. this is the same azov regiment

that fought in the war since 2014 in which battles he took part, how many people are there, at the moment, we already have more than one and a half thousand personnel with weapons and equipment, and so on. and if you take the brigade, it is 4.5 thousand per state. therefore, we need people, that is, you are on the list do now recruiting is definitely and directly handled by the regiment itself, it does not handle it, how does it happen, i.e. you submit some applications to the military commissariat , you talk about it in the military. we were transferred personnel, i tell you how there is a stationary guard, our regiment

is not being transferred to the national guard, this is not a question for me , they are transferring me from the armed forces of ukraine to the regiment, i lived until this moment when i joined the armed forces ukraine is conducted from the national guard, and the police from the patrol police, in order to join us, you just have to go through an interview. if you fit us, you just resign now, that's how you can get out . you resign from the police and join our lava. to work and so on, there are many willing people from the state border service, but unfortunately, everything here depends on their immediate commanders who may not want to give it to the soldiers. in such a case, life is bad for the soldiers, because of nature in tg and yes and eh with that and dftg transfers

are really easy, well, that is, we can transfer from the armed forces of ukraine. that is, we talked there , entered the interaction, we will transfer mostly soldiers, company commanders above officers they will not be translated and it is clear, again, ah, in relation to there , there is a sufficient number in order to be able to plan actions for the scaling of the unit in the future, and these are officers who have excluded combat experience. that is , they are those who grew up, the truth is 9, almost 9 years, these are people who have command experience at all positions from the lowest to the highest , these are people who have been there and fought battles with their soldiers , these are people who are not distanced from them, yes, these are people who correctly understand the ethics and schematics of work in the unit, these are people who have exceptional