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will be taken over on the espresso tv channel. my friend serhiy rudenko with his word program as serhiy. congratulations and continue. congratulations to yuria. literally in a few seconds, we will start the verdict this is not glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko. good day and good health to all today, february 6, 348, the day of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers, the leader of the faction, the servant of the people of david arkhamiya announced personnel rotations in the power bloc of the state ukraine is preparing for a new russian offensive that may begin in 10 days russia is planning regional elections in the occupied territories on september 10, 2023 british intelligence reports this meanwhile the russian army continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine as of the morning of february 6, russia has already lost
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132,160 people in ukraine in the last day alone , the armed forces of ukraine have destroyed 870 orks since the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine has 3,231 tanks, 6,415 armored combat vehicles and 231 artillery systems, 461 rocket launchers, 227 anti-aircraft defense systems , 294 aircraft, 284 helicopters, 5,000, 104 vehicles, 18 ships, boats, 796 cruise missiles, 1,958 drones, 203 units of special equipment. promised not to kill volodymyr zelenskyi, and russia may go on the offensive in the next ten days, or rather in 10 days, such forecasts are given by
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british intelligence specialists, we will talk about it in the next hour, i would like to introduce our guest - he is a politician-diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009 , volodymyr hryshko, volodymyr, good day , good health to you, and thank you for joining our broadcast. i congratulate you, mr. serhiy, good health to you e- and to our dear tv and radio listeners, i think they listen to us not only watch, first of all vladimir , let's start with the expected personnel changes , because one way or another these personnel changes will affect both internally and externally politics davyd arkhamia, the leader of the servant of the people faction, has already announced that oleksiy reznikov, who currently holds the position of minister of defense, will be transferred to the position of minister of strategic industries to strengthen military-industrial cooperation. major general kyrylo budanov will head
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the ministry of defense . ihor klymenko will become the head of the ministry of internal affairs, the head of the sbu, vasyl malyuk, and in principle, as he wrote a little later in his telegram channel, arahamia, these values will take place in the field of defense during the week, the appointment of the heads of the ministry of internal affairs and the security service of ukraine is expected this week, how do you think these staff rotations will affect our negotiations and our relations with western partners, because we know that on february 14 there will be another meeting in the rammstein format, we know that an announcement will be made ahead of -the provision of a large package of weapons aid to western countries. well, the russian offensive on ukraine is expected, how will all this affect the internal situation in ukraine as well, what seems to me, mr. serhiy
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, important in this regard is that, well, two at least the leaders you mentioned, namely the heads of the sbu and the ministry of internal affairs, should be really appointed, and this is correct because the information is any, and even more so , the power that we are talking about, that they are directly involved in the defense of the defense of our motherland, they cannot remain for a long time without their full-fledged evaluations, so it is possible to fulfill their duties, but it is necessary for such departments to have their full-fledged heads approved by the verkhovna rada, so i am for so that it is faster such appointments took place, all the more so if we talk about the work. well, at least as an acting sbu officer, we can see how
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dynamic this work has become to cleanse ukraine of traitors and collaborators, and in ideological information work, i mean what they are happening with the centers of the russian world in the form of a branch of the russian orthodox church in ukraine under the strange name of the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate , so i think that this will only strengthen the position of the russian orthodox church, so to speak, and i think that when it will happen, only build up and strengthen. this is an absolutely correct pro-ukrainian course. the same can be said about mr. klymenko. i don’t know all the details that relate to his
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previous work. they were also characterized positively, although i will tell you frankly when you read that in kyiv, representatives of some structures crush the activities of brothels, it becomes a little sad , sorry, we have such things right under our noses . it seems to me that we should allow i can't but i think that the hands will reach to this well, and the main point, uh, regarding mr. reznikov, it seems to me that despite all the scandals that took place in the ministry of defense, it seems to me that now is not the time to change mr. reznikov, well, besides, uh, i'll tell you what he did not directly take part in all these things that you and i learned about and about which we
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were definitely indignant, but let's divide here , so to speak, the strategy and tactics of his deputy, who was directly responsible for this direction already fired as far as i've heard arrested, the same applies to the head of the department, everything is correct , but i would not rush to appoint another person to the position of minister of defense for one simple reason, mr. reznikov, to his honor and merit, i say this absolutely sincerely because that i am watching this very, very meticulously , he was able to establish what in our cases has been going on for years, during this time he was able to establish direct friendly contacts with his colleagues in most of the countries of nato and the european union, i mean with the minister
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and defense, which help ukraine as much as possible, and this is a great merit, including his , so everyone is engaged in this, but the role of the minister of defense in this is not the last . there are more negatives than positives, we have to keep the corrupt component out of sight, we have to make sure that this system finally works properly, but also understand that now it is probably not the most principled the question is about victory about the survival of our state and somewhere about the fact that it is necessary to ensure daily uninterrupted assistance from our
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western partners in any new minister. if this happens, it will take months for this to happen, whether you will win here or not, i am afraid. and as for mr. volodymyr, it will affect your reputation on reznikov and on the attitude of western colleagues towards him, whether these scandals can somehow in a certain way change their position towards reznikov and, in general , regarding trust in the leadership of the current ukrainian state because of all these corrupt scandals that have been over the past three weeks, in a certain way, mr. sergey, i can agree with you here, but only in a certain way , especially if we take into account that minister reznikov reacted clearly and harshly to all these things, carried out appropriate personnel changes and proposed options that could become well the actual solution to this issue is the idea
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of ​​the system transparently in the system excuse me for the technology of the ministry of defense the so-called military transparently is one of the versions of this solution yes it is possible and in principle it is it is a normal practice in the west when the head recognizes the mistakes of his department but draws the right conclusions from it and uh, this should not interfere with his continuation of his functions, especially if we take into account the state of war. maybe if it was a uh, calm situation of a peaceful nature there were probably no conversations here, but we must understand that today there is a war and every contact today is at the level of the ministers of defense, it seems to me
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well, what is very expensive is the information that appeared that kyiv has already received very reliable intelligence data about russia's intentions launch a new offensive the attack may take place within 10 days, financial times writes about it well, yesterday oleksiy reznikov said that ukraine expects russian troops to launch an offensive in donbas and let's hear what the minister of defense of ukraine said, as of today, we do not see any on the territory of belarus formed strike groups capable of reaching kyiv, it is very important to listen to the general staff's official position when it becomes clear that they have formed strike groups, it is clear where in which place is our general headquarters - it knows very well, that's why when they tell you about kharkiv
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, sumy, chernihiv, take a map and see that there are no strike groups on that side, this does not mean that all these forecasts and statements of reznikov, including regarding the possible offensive, they are taking place against the background of constant discussions between official kyiv and western countries regarding the provision of heavy weapons for ukraine, we know that the leopards are already on their way to ukraine. when they will come, it will become clear a little later. abrams of ukraine in at the end of the 23rd at the beginning of the 24th year well, last week's discussion was so public regarding the need to provide ukraine with f6 f16 fighter jets, and the president of the united states of america, joseph biden , answering questions from journalists , briefly said that he does not plan to e-
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america should provide us with f-16s, considering the state in which we are now and it is clear that in this state we need more heavy equipment, according to you, can the event be accelerated considering the threat we are facing now ukraine, because it is clear that the next two or three months will be decisive in the russian-ukrainian war, because russia is carefully preparing for this offensive, russia is fully aware that ukraine is not getting heavy weapons quickly, and russia does not expect to get the donetsk luhansk region under control. the southern regions which they formally declared hm legally part of the russian federation according to their legislation well, you know, they ca
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n't declare whatever they want testifies to the fact that, in russia, the imperial spirit prevails, which remains key in the heads of both the russian leadership and the russian population, although remember the one on putin's speech on february 24 , 2022, when he he promised that he is not going to seize anything, that his goal is completely different. and now he is talking about what you see, how the sea of ​​azov has already happened , our inland sea, everything is fine, and the crimea, our donbas, our everything else. these are all things that he says exclusively for his own population and all these talks about some
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kind of regular elections in september 23rd of this particular row. well, let him speak. in the end , kharkiv is more correct. excuse me, kherson, it's according to their documents, so to speak, it's already russian territory but for some reason with the ukrainian flag. well, let's not treat this as a serious matter. this is propaganda that has clouded the heads of everyone and everything, but this does not mean that the situation is not difficult, if they say threatening, because, unfortunately, our western partners in spite of everything the huge help for which we thank them sincerely, they still cannot cross a certain psychological rubicon and understand that the more weapons, the faster the end of the war, the less we will be in the end , even their own expenses, because
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after the recognition of the russian occupiers from the ukrainian land, there will be no talk of what we want him to want to take vladivostok , well, at least some dreams and prospects, i 'm joking, of course, but this is a kind of gradualism tactic, you know. does not give the ability to concentrate and do what is needed, it definitely has a negative effect on the development of events and definitely gives moscow the opportunity to prepare and throw tens or maybe even hundreds of thousands of people to destruction for putin, this is not the price, they cannot understand in moscow what he will do ride on t-62 t-62 tanks produced in 1975-80, but they will go in such armadas
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because it’s easy to break through the defenses and capture the next several tens of kilometers of territory , that’s what, unfortunately, the west is still that cannot to understand being afraid of this nuclear blackmail where you have to finally understand that blackmail is blackmail and reality and reality are reality putin will never press the nuclear button because he clings to life very much and you see if he sits 15 m away from all his closest ones interlocutors this means that he is afraid of everyone, even even these people, it means that he wants to live. if he was not afraid of this, he would have acted completely differently . volodymyr, the head of diplomacy is jose borel. the european union in ukraine was not on the agenda, percent said in an interview with el pais, we would have gone to war if we had brought in troops , but this is definitely not on the agenda
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. it was never on the agenda a year ago. shouldn't we give weapons to ukraine? jose borel said that in january of last year, before the start of the russian invasion, he visited the pre-reform donbas, he understood everything, but he could not promise anything to kyiv, and today the situation has changed radically, let's hear the direct language borel in kyiv, prime minister denys myhal asked me, will you give us the weapons we need for defense ? frankly speaking, i didn't know what to answer him because then i didn't know how decisive europe will be in this matter. now the answer to this question is for i'm simple. we must continue to give ukraine all the means so that it can
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defeat the aggressor, restore its sovereignty and find its place in the european union. the west's decision to complete or let's say to defeat putin's russia because over the course of the year we saw that the west hesitated to do it or not to do it and in what proportions to provide weapons or not to help ukraine so that ukraine could not have harmed russia, well, it means objects on the territory of russia, or not to provide such weapons according to your opinion, or is there already a fundamentally political decision that putin's russia should not exist, well, at least in the form in which
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it is and with that aggressive policy what is she now it is conducting i think that i hope that there is no such solution, and this is the key problem, by the way, in two weeks , not only rammstein will be on duty , but also the munich security conference , where traditionally z' all the political figures from all over the world are coming , with a very, very high caliber . i think that within the framework of this conference there will be a very interesting discussion about how the war should end and what should be including with er post war russia er this year, the organizers decided not to invite anyone from the official circle of russians, which is absolutely normal and correct, and this should be supported. they invited a
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few , so to speak. e my vision of how e-e russia should develop after e-e its defeat in ukraine. i think that e-e there will be a really interesting discussion. and it seems to me that in these two weeks, we in ukraine should e to prepare one's own vision at least in such a way of the main theses our vision of how this war should end and what should happen next with russia, we should gradually transfer it from conversations to concrete
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documents, well, draft documents, even to statements of memoranda it is possible to even start thinking about the topic of the project of the same treaty about the post-war peace that should be established after the victory over russia in this regard. we have a lot of work ahead of us and i think that if we involve our westerners in this work partners and offer our vision, then we will advance much faster in what is called this final psychological breakdown, because otherwise putin scares everyone with a nuclear button. the last time he did it was in volgograd a few days ago, again directly
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hinting that he still has such a chance, and for this they are afraid, so that they are not afraid, we must offer her our visions of the future , discuss it calmly, understanding that russia remains a colony that uh, muscovy uh, colonized dozens of uh, peoples who live on the territory of the russian federation, that these peoples have the right to self-determination like all other peoples, if you ask them, they have the right to freely express their opinion and such and such and such and so on. and then a fairly substantive, calm conversation begins, and not squirm because putin tomorrow e- he will attack us in europe with nuclear weapons. believe me, despite all his madness, he very soberly assesses the situation and understands that this attack will be
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the last day of his life regarding the plan and how official kyiv is now looks at the situation in ukraine and the prospects of ending the russian-ukrainian war. obviously, this will be the number one topic of the meeting of the three presidents of the united states of america, poland and ukraine, which should take place sometime in february, well, at least the president of poland and duda talked about the fact that joe biden will fly to poland in february, and even earlier the polish mass media wrote about the fact that volodymyr zelensky should present some kind of his vision, a plan for peace and a plan for international support or an international forum or
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of the conference that concerns the future of ukraine, at the same time, we understand , mr. volodymyr, that constantly being under shelling, under constant threat of a major attack of another attack by the russian federation, perhaps not everything is so quick that the representatives of the ukrainian authorities manage to formulate their vision and understand what will happen next, but i i also wanted to ask you about the statements of the former prime minister of israel , natalie bennett, made in an interview with israel's 12th tv channel, about what happened a year ago more precisely, in march 2022, bennett flew to putin and putin told him in a private conversation that he gave his word that he would not kill zelensky. that is, this topic is now quite active in the western press. earlier , the biographer of joseph biden said that there were at
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least 12 assassination attempts have been preparing for zelenskyi for a year and the director of this movement flew to kyiv even on the eve of the great war and told zelenskyi about the exact plans that the russians were preparing in order to physically remove zelenskyi from power, you as an experienced diplomat, what do you say about such statements by bennett, why does he make them, this is the first thing, of course, you cannot believe putin's words, because if he does not speak, he always lies, but here is bennett , who is now constantly talking about the fact that putin can still be a decent person, see him promised not to kill zelenskyi, he didn’t kill him yet, why is he doing it, well, mr. serhiy, of course, you are absolutely right about the fact that you cannot believe a single word of putin and his camaraderie for one simple
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reason: this is the russian tradition. lies - this is the only secret that muscovy has stood on since its inception, and we have already studied it well. thank god we know. unfortunately , they do not know this yet in europe, and they have not read these books yet, but there is hope that they will come and reach them regarding bennet. well, you see a more pro-russian prime minister recently, at least in israel, i haven't seen him, he's a man who is against putin, well, from everything that could be seen, so to speak, they treated the outside very positive, he flew to him , he spoke with him, er, he did not in any way managed to take at least one step towards ukraine during his prime ministership except for absolutely formal ones that
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didn't really solve anything, but israel has quite a lot of potential in this regard, as you know, that's why what it's doing now benet, it seems to me that this is only a way to justify himself from those accusations that were and are being made against him because of this er compliance because of the desire to somehow appease putin by pretending that there is no difference between russia and ukraine that it is some it's incomprehensible there. between the car, we don't need to go there. we're standing on the side of who is betrayed, we don't know who's the aggressor, we don't see and so on and so on. it seems to me that it's you. we have to go out now, so i'm sorry, we have to put an end to our conversation today, we'll continue another time, because we
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have an emergency power outage, now it was volodymyr hryshko, a diplomat, politician, e.e., minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2007-2009 , it was a verdict program. emergency shutdown, we have to complete this program. thank you all and see you tomorrow. unconquered cities of ukraine, this is cozy kherson. the pearl of the protected territories of ukraine. the city played a significant role in the creation of statehood. it became the southern center of the ukrainian revival during the great terror.

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