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[000:00:00;00] in general, i am in favor of a regional policy of strengthening decentralization, but i still hope that the main ally for the preservation of local self-government will be the ukrainian people and the independent mass media, which must remember and understand and see what happened after the large-scale tuesday , for responsibility, she pushes ee in relation to mamai by the way, now we are talking about the suspicion that he was there knowingly unknowingly, but he could reveal information about the location of defense forces a on april 19 of last year as part of criminal proceedings employees of the sbu searched him at his place of residence and in the premises of the city council, and it was about actions that could be related to the possible embezzlement of humanitarian aid and, in general , the corrupt nature of the action, if we return to symmetry again or vice versa
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asymmetry of atroshenko and mamai , well, look, i'm saying it again, atroshenko came to the test, fortunately, fortunately, poltava was in a different situation and it's really good that poltava was not forced to undergo this test in the sign of air, a question mark zavys so if the russian troops approached poltava, what would happen as the mayor of kharkiv together with the ukrainian people with the armed forces as the mayor of chernihiv together with the territorial defense with the armed forces - is the leadership of the north together defending the city or the mayor of poltava would be the one who would carry the keys on the red carpet of the enemy the occupier, would he have been like all the rest who stood on the side of ukraine and strengthened local self-government, we do not know the answer to this question in poltava, but these jokes that were behind the humanitarian woman, i know for sure because one once we specifically brought a humanitarian cargo to poltava, unloaded it, unloaded it, and there were the neighboring warehouses, the public people with whom we worked and the city government, then of course we lost our cargo
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, and there was such a mess that we could not find it. but i will tell you honestly, such a mess and in public warehouses, i saw what happened then in february, march-april , it was so complete that i would not be surprised if such cases could be done to everyone. well, i would not be surprised, thank you oleksandra solontaye, experts of the institute of political education, executive director of the reconstruction and development agency spoke to us about self-government during the war, and we are adding to our marathon vasyl bodnar , the ambassador of ukraine in turkey with extraordinary authority. glory to ukraine, mr. ambassador, we congratulate you, alarming news, tragic news, so many earthquakes happened in turkey and in syria we do not even know to the end how many victims of those natural disasters please share operational information now what
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is happening what news is coming from turkey i greet you, i greet the viewers, it is a really terrible day, as of now, there are almost 1,500 victims on the territory of turkey alone, those who died are more than 8 thousand injured, more than four thousand buildings were destroyed, a rather scary picture, fortunately, there is still no information about the injured ukrainians , i hope it is not there will be such when i'm somewhere 24 appeals from relatives who were looking for contacts with their relatives who lived in those regions , six of them got in touch, found and confirmed that it's normal, but most of them still have no contact. well, it's related of course with destruction of the infrastructure and hence communication in the regions, we hope that everything will be fine with our citizens, she declared that she is ready to send a rescue mission, and in what volume is it now necessary, and well, let's say, what resources can we dispose of now
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, look really fundamental a decision has been made and the president of ukraine and the minister of foreign affairs said that in the next few hours we expect the publication of a decision on how many rescuers there will be and what equipment will be involved . to help our neighbors in such difficult situations, all the more so let's remember that turkey at the beginning of the war and now helps us with humanitarian aid and many other things , therefore, in this terrible time, we really need separate help, the decision will be in the next few hours and we will know the full amount , i hope that in the next few days they will already be here and will help in overcoming the consequences of this disaster, mr. ambassadors , forgive me for the question, i don’t know the geological plan, what do local scientists say , can such earthquakes continue yes well, because something too much throughout the whole day
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almost today is shaking turkey er, it shook further, just a few hours ago we felt it here in ankara, especially on the upper floors when the lights and glasses start to change in one place. that is, well, here it is already echoes but it all still creates a certain certain certain if unpleasant let's say yes, even we are saying it now , there is information that those shocks are repeated, we are simply reducing the examples , it is possible that it will continue for some time we hope not so much, but now no one can give an exact forecast, you know these media about the fact that one of the foreign observers supposedly three days before the earthquake predicted the possibility of such a er such a such a heavy earthquake, but here on the spot well, to say exactly when no one can stop it, mr. ambassadors. well, accordingly , information was received that one of the threads
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of the gas pipeline was destroyed in turkey. we understand that now turkey is trying to become, or rather, implementing the strategy of transforming itself into a powerful hub that would work both with the countries of asia and the european union. see, in fact, there is an official message from the votash company, which cut off part of the regions from gas supply due to the fact that one of the gas pipelines was really interrupted , but these are not the transit ones the gas pipelines that we are talking about or that they are talking about publicly that they will be used there for the transit of e-e gas to e-e-e if the international markets are actually cut off is the oil pipeline e-e bakut tbilisi chihan because it is not far from that it is near amertsiyana there are kandiya cakes of which there are oil-oil-filling er-e if containers and it was the main er-e port for the transportation of azerbaijani oil to international markets
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, indeed pumping there is suspended er-e and of course it is related to us eliminating the consequences of the taste itself when it was restored before the restoration, of course we will be informed, but now there is a terrible situation of the operational headquarters, which was actually created on the basis of the consulate, what are the functions and how can you help people, the two main functions are the organization of assistance to the turkish side, i.e. coordination with the turkish side e-e about if i have to get to our rescuers , where to place them and whether they will take the second direction - this is the usual usual coordination of communication with the citizens of ukraine and, if necessary , it is possible to help them with what we can help e-e mobilization own
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resources resources of the business community and e-e also e-e of the local ukrainian community as well of course, these issues are related to the coordination of aid, it is possible to provide aid to those who have suffered, it is not necessarily our citizens citizens turkey, eh, we are now also thinking about organizing fund-raising and aid collection , and perhaps there will be a need for this, not blood . that is, these are the issues that are currently pressing in this turkish society. i would like to ask about the dynamics in terms of the implementation of the so-called grain agreement, as you evaluate it , is there a chance to somehow influence the russian side so that it somehow forgives the moment when the grain caravans pass, no, in fact, these attempts are constantly made by intermediaries first of all, it is turkey and the organization of the united nations, the russian side is not
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interested in the rapid passage of our ships , or ships entering from our ports, and is doing everything possible to slow down inspections , of course, we were interested in the number of inspection groups and the time that is, the amount of maintenance has increased, and due to maintenance, it has decreased . unfortunately, for now, we are staying within the framework of which we have now. er, more than a hundred are waiting for verification, and this of course creates a lot of discomfort er, but we also have the order in this edition of the extension of er of this agreement, and here we should not forget that er, it is precisely the constructive position that turkey helped to extend for the first time in november this agreement, and now we also expect an active position of the icrc regarding the next extension of the current agreement and, of course, we raise the issue not only about the increase in the number of inspection groups
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, but also about the expansion of the range of ports and the range of goods that we would like to er exporting through this corridor is everything. on the agenda and negotiations are ongoing, i would actually like to ask you if there are prospects for expanding the number of goods or raw materials that could be transported by sea , that is, we understand that diplomacy is primarily silence and secrets . there is a certain dynamic, if it exists . see , this is our public position, we have stated it since the beginning of the negotiations. ministerdenko, this is also our task - it is also in the relevant contact or negotiation groups together, so i will not talk about the dynamics, because everything depends on us , it depends on the result, not on the dynamics, on the process, so we hope that the result will be
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uh, but we will not say that there is no we have excessive expectations because it is in the interest of russia that you are uhu well, mr. vasyl, now everyone is expressing their condolences to turkey in connection with the victims of the earthquake , the leadership of sweden and finland are no exception, they have already reacted to the powerful earthquake in turkey, emphasizing the need for immediate assistance to the country and ready to provide it, well, in the context of the relations of these three countries, there have also been many informational reasons recently , what exactly is the turkish position and the position of turkish president erdogan regarding the expansion of the north atlantic alliance on the border of sweden and finland. let 's be clear in our wording, because turkey's position usually corresponds to the expansion of nato , since it strengthens the alliance and, let's say , relieves pressure on the southern flank of nato from the point
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from the point of view of specific countries, of course, in ankara, they talk about a green light for finland, but the events that took place with the burning of the koran or its copy, which is sacred for any muslim, caused an extremely violent reaction in turkey, and no politician will allow himself to ignore this fact therefore, now it is one of the obstacles. it seems to me that this is generally organized by some special pro-russian forces or indirectly with their help in order to suspend or block for a certain period sweden's move to nato, of course, without an adequate response, without prohibitions from the official authorities before the implementation of such measures, there will be no positive decision from ankara, and here president erdoğan and the minister of foreign affairs have clearly stated
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that that no one will support this decision, all the more so now this is especially the pre-election period, it has acquired a special sound and resonance. well, let's see . honestly, this does not look like freedom of speech, it looks like an abuse of the religious rights of one of the religious communities and it is really not clear why such provocations were allowed to be carried out even under the supervision of the police, especially since you know that the ambassador at that time, the apostle of turkey in sweden, is the former ambassador to ukraine, i can imagine how he could observe it. how difficult it was to experience it directly if as for as for every muslim, we agree with you. well, a number of certain additional details indicate that it is possible in the case of the shameful phenomenon, such as the burning of the holy book, so to speak, that it is absolutely unacceptable
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the so-called russian trace well, we will talk about this with the special services for the last time, i would like to ask you what the situation is with our fighters, the defenders of mariupol, who were extradited to turkey, what is their condition. because from the point of view of security, this is not, as they say , the most important information that can be disclosed. but the main thing is that everything is fine. yes, it's fine. god bless you. thank you mr. vasyl vasyl bodnar, the extraordinary and plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in turkey, was now in direct contact with the espresso studio, let's move on . and now we will talk about the chinese-american relations and the bullet that flew between them, i would say so, yuriy poita, head of the section of the asia-pacific region of new geopoliti expression work
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contact us p yuriy congratulations glory to ukraine good day glory to ukraine glory to the heroes fighter pilots who shot down the chinese spy balloon in the sky over the united states the ministry of foreign affairs of china expressed strong dissatisfaction and protest against the us use of force to attack civilian unmanned aerial vehicles but in the states they emphasize that they allegedly spied precisely on strategically important objects on the territory of the us, in connection with this even the visa of the us secretary of state anthony blinkin in china was threatened, he is now dear mr. yuriy, how do you see the current situation and relations between the united states and china, please? well, i think there is nothing new here, there are no such changes in the so-called kinkers, and in principle, everything flows within the framework of those trends that have long, long ago in
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the principles have been determined both from the chinese side and from the american side, at the moment we can once again draw conclusions that there is no détente in fact between washington and putin, there is no side trying to demonstrate friendly relations and more constructive relations however, we see that strategic competition continues and so far the us and china is trying not to get out of control let 's say not to let this strategic competition out of control so that it is this format of relations does not turn into a crisis, we see that the people's republic of china continues to strengthen its own defense potential, the military potential of the people's liberation army of china, and this is carried out in those and in those to me in those and such aspects that are intended for naval battles and air battles , these are naval forces, missile forces, nuclear components and so on, the same is done by the united states of america, but they strengthen the capabilities of their allies more , and also, this incident with the bullet
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demonstrates that the chinese people's the republic continues to introduce reconnaissance activities, including in relation to critical objects, e.e., strategic objects of the usa on its territory, as likely as possible both to identify signs of their activity, well , the peculiarities of the activity of these objects, and for possible future damage by its missile means, mr. yuri, in your opinion, why was this aerostat shot down, or what is the correct thing to call it, instead of , for example, stopping it with the help of, i don’t know , a helicopter or some other appropriate special aircraft? well, i’m not an expert of the military air force , but as far as i can see, first of all, its interception took place, well, it would be quite difficult for the means of aviation because of the high , because of the high, high altitude
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of this arostat, firstly, secondly, it is necessary it was likely to be shot down, let's say, because it would have continued uh , it was online, most likely it was transmitting intelligence, it was unlikely that it was uh , a civilian lethal vehicle , most likely, it was usually used for intelligence purposes before the united states of america waited for that situation, that position of the man, when his beating would not threaten the life and health of the citizens of the united states of america , tell mr. yuri, there is no sense of demonstrativeness of what happened . in the world of technology, when you need to understand what is happening on the territory of your potential enemy
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, so on your own . it just flies over there and collects data, that is, it’s the truth of the secretary of state of the united states until and here such a facap in which version is being considered, so to speak . is it a competition of different intelligence environments inside china? in your opinion, it is difficult to say whether it was done on purpose, that it coincided with the people's liberation army of china and their intelligence services regarding the conduct of intelligence activities in relation to their future opponents, but first of all, we can say that the use of such arostaps is not news to china for quite a long time, it has been using them, according to
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the media, about 20 times , for example, it has already been used in recent years, for example, during the presidency of donald trump, the following were also used arrests, however, they were not reported in the media, for example, i spoke with taiwanese colleagues here, and they say that similar arrests were used against the taiwanese a few years ago, but taiwan tried not to to demonstrate let's say not to knock them down not not to provoke the chinese side and provided an opportunity let's say to do this by the united states of america in order to well, after all , uh, taiwan is trying to uh, it's not a call to any such escalation. therefore, this is not news of any kind this is the general approach of the chinese side , the so-called salami-slicing strategy that they implement or the strategy of gray zones in the region when china tries to gradually carry out some actions, but
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such actions that cannot be identified as military actions, so it does not says that this is a civilian aircraft, that it collects information exclusively for peaceful purposes, and so on, but still tries to get that benefit with the help of this aircraft over the territory of america, but at the same time without leading to such a confrontation. therefore, in principle, the situation is not new . why did it coincide with the visit of anthony blinken? for me , the question remains, maybe it is such a facap, mr. yuriy . certain informal conversations anthony blinking to the capital of the sky in general how do you currently assess the transatlantic dialogue between washington and beijing, well, this dialogue
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continues, the parties are trying to demonstrate constructiveness and friendship, readiness to cooperate, firstly , they cooperate with those areas from which there are no conflict situations, for example, this e-e from global climate change e-e other such e-e directions but also they try and outline such red lines try to prove to each side their red lines in first of all, it concerns taiwan. i think that the main e-e dialogue and the main communication of the united states of america with china still takes place around the situations in the taiwan strait because china still e-e carries out the preparation of its military component, including numerical, quantitative and qualitative carries out military training aimed at capturing taiwan and increases its military pressure , including with the help of planes of the air force of the people's liberation
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army of china in the air defense recognition zone of taiwan and so on, therefore, the number one issue, the number one issue, is the situation in public channels, and the united states of america insists that we maintain the status quo that currently exists . the people's republic of china, according to the united states, is trying to change its status, including by force. another issue is, of course, the russian-ukrainian war. i think that because this is such a major event, a major driver that determines the development of the military-political and international situation in the world, it is very important for washington's diplomacy once again to demonstrate according to tin that any material assistance, military, military-technical, or provision or assistance during the course of sanctions by china to the russian federation, it will be immediately discovered. and for this there will be very serious consequences for china, for the chinese economy, and so on, so i think there are two basic the question is taiwan and
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the russian-ukrainian war, they should of course be on the agenda of this meeting . of course, this is an important signal and we understand that there is another position of japan . he meets with american colleagues, well, at least representatives of the japanese political establishment hear the information that it is possible that japan will purchase tomahawks, yes, and we understand how the psychosis of the russian propaganda public, in particular , when there were high-level meetings , yes, accordingly, they always remember hiroshima and nagasaki there this is such a retreat , but japan during the russian-ukrainian war, to what extent will japan be ready
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to help us powerfully, so to speak, symbolically rhetorical and so on, it is about the power of aid, well, it is actually difficult for me to give an assessment because i am not familiar with the progress and results of the negotiations on military-technical cooperation between kyiv and tokyo, and if i were familiar with it, then i would not have the right to provide any information to official to official publications, so it is difficult to say, but i think that the united states of america is trying to find , in any case, there are some indicators , they are trying to find a format that would increase japanese aid to ukraine, but if we talk, for example, about defense potential, about developments, about technology, we must understand that the japanese armed forces, the so-called self-defense forces of japan, are built exclusively on american technologies, so let's say that transfer or assistance from japan to ukraine is still assistance
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from the side of the united states of america of ukraine, so i think that it is difficult to say, maybe japan could help the amnesty with ammunition, maybe with some samples of military equipment , but for japan it is also difficult in that respect including for the reason that japan feels a serious threat from the people's republic of china and japan's self-defense forces are increasing their military potential in the event of repelling some kind of aggression in the event of a conflict developing in the region . therefore, it is difficult to say in what way japan could help ukraine on a large scale. i think that ukrainian diplomats and american diplomats are working on this, and if there is any positive news, sooner or
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later mr. yuriy will know about it. the milestone of our conversation with you, uh, conversations on our air, including uh, sbu reserve major general viktor yagun suggested that lukashenko and belarus in general are looking for options for rapprochement with china uh, this is what is happening now regarding contacts in belarus and china the consultation of the ministry of foreign affairs of belarus with the chinese ambassador almost every day he is called for consultations. i think this is one of the factors where lukashenko is trying to find an alternative to putin, realizing that everything can happen literally at one moment and neither putin nor russia will be behind him. well, we understand what this is such a subjective view of the situation can be, nevertheless, is lukashenko really looking for an alternative in china? well , unfortunately, i do not have access to the process of negotiations between minsk and russia in a similar way. but if we look at the geopolitical situation
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which took place, for example, until 2020 or 2022 , then leave it. i was really looking for it. i apologize. minsky was really looking for such a counter-balance in the image of china that could balance both economic relations and political relations from the people's republic of china and reduce the influence of the russian federation. however, we must understand that after 2020 and especially after 2022, the geopolitical situation has changed. and this, from my point of view, is any help from china to minsk, it is very, very unlikely because, for example, even before 2020, such a thing was done. well that despite its significant economic presence , including in the post-soviet space, china has not been able to transform it into a significant political influence, firstly, and secondly
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, it is not ready to take any such take an active role to take an active role in the post-soviet space in the event of a crisis, we see this very wonderful cases and in 2020, the revolution from the effort of the revolution in belarus, we see the situation in nagorno-karabakh, for example , when china and in the first and in in the second case, he was silent, we see the situation with the annexation of crimea in 2014, when china was silent, and in the same way we see the silence of china in fact after the full-scale invasion of the russian federation into ukraine, so i think that even if mr. lukashenko tried to find in china's image is a counter-balance. the people's republic of china is not ready to, in any case, i do not see any indicators from the sources available to me that could signal that china would be ready to help either the belarusian leader or, respectively, the country
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and so on and so far, what i see, for example, what is happening between china and the russian federation, these two countries are very , let's say, they perceive very well and work very well the so-called zones of influence, and the chinese side, in principle, believes the post-soviet space, despite the fact that it has serious economic relations with other countries, it still considers it a zone of influence of the russian federation. therefore, we do not yet expect any such steps on the part of china that could change the balance of power or help other countries, etc. next thank you important relations with russia thank you, mr. yuriy always an interesting analyst yuriy poita, the head of the section of the pacific region ziscotika worked now live espresso well, it's five o'clock exactly so this means that now on their we will see iryna koval on the screens, but some

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