[000:00:00;00] we started talking about this topic, i think we will continue it, because here it is really worth calling the enemy by name, it is worth talking about his characteristics, it is worth understanding how to fight him, it is worth understanding what he is, because living until the 21st or 22nd year, many ukrainians in principle did not know what russia was, for many it was strange, and they did not kill people, we did not think , the boys came, well, that is, they are not boys, they are bloody murderers with the genetic code of murderers , starting there from the 15th century, of course, you have to call the enemy by name and we this is what we will do. it was a program of vasyl's worldview in the winter. subscribe to social networks in telegram. youtube twitter instagram facebook wherever you can . thank you for the word congratulations thank you vasyl literally in a few seconds

we will start the verdict glory to ukraine this is the verdict program my name is serhiy rudenko everyone have a good day and good health today february 7, 349 days of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers, the verkhovna rada of ukraine appointed vasyl makyk as head of the security service of ukraine, the russians are regrouping in separate areas , the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine reports, the main efforts of the occupiers are concentrating their offensive operations on the kupyan , liman, bakhmut, maldivian, and novopavlov directions, meanwhile , the russian army continues to lose lives forces and equipment in ukraine as of the morning of february 7 , russia has already lost 133,190 people in ukraine

in the last day alone, the armed forces of ukraine destroyed 1,030 orks at the beginning of the great war, the russians have already lost in ukraine 3,245 tanks 643 armored combat vehicles 232 artillery systems 461 rocket salvo systems 227 air defense equipment 294 aircraft 284 helicopters 5,107 units of automotive equipment 18 boats boats 796 cruise missiles - 1,958 drones 208 special technical units today, friends , we have a special guest - the legendary commander of the military school named after colonel yevhen konovalts of the azov regiment, ex-commander of the second infantry battalion, major of the national of the guard of ukraine, knight of the order of merit of the third degree kyrylo berkal p major good day good health to you and i am glad to see you on the air of the espresso tv channel good day serhiy let's see you so, p major

let's start with your rather long biography because nine years of war russian-ukrainian all nine years you have been at the front you are one of the veterans of the azov regiment they know that before the russian-ukrainian war you were not involved in military affairs you graduated from the national aviation university majoring in international law, criminology of international terrorism, and graduated from the military department in parallel in 2013 with the beginning of the revolution of dignity, you worked far from ukraine and then returned to ukraine and joined the azov regiment, what prompted you to leave everything far abroad and return to ukraine 9 years ago well, you know how different it is for me, that is. well, i didn’t have a choice. that’s how my parents raised me. i understood that my

country was once again an enemy. there was a landing already in the crimea when i was already a green man. although i graduated from the military department, but still i took an oath of loyalty to the ukrainian people, that is, i was already an officer, so for me the choice was obvious, i have to return , i have to do something about it. but you were far from ukraine. as far as i know, your work was connected with being thousands of kilometers from ukraine, if i am not mistaken. in thailand, how did kyrylo berkal turn from the manager of a successful company into a soldier of the azov regiment, well, it was quite a thorny path, the path to becoming a real warrior

, that is, well, it was really difficult from the beginning days just to plow because i understood in order to give myself some kind of advice to somehow give some advice to dominate this matter, a lot of work will have to be done. moreover, from the first days there were already challenges, there were already real challenges and threats. well , what did you have to counter and counter until now ? a person with the nickname kirt by the way, why a cat i understand that kirt is part of your name kirill and what does it mean in this situation ? scandinavia and here kirt is antiquity in the scandinavian language it sounds like an ax and i usually fought with this ax at parades, someone took part, it was my totem, well , now we hope that they will give us tamagavka axes and we will be able to fight again with axes

in the war of the 21st century, i know mr. kyrylo what are you from a big family of military men, your grandfathers were military men, you always dreamed of military service, but you worked in civil aviation, did you always want to be a military man, or how did you even join the military, you know most boys in childhood dream of being a military police officer. i was certainly not an exception. we always played similar games. i wanted to become a professional soldier even after school. i had a hot idea to go to the military there. with great effort , my parents convinced me to study there first. well, you decide if you want, you go. well, in principle, at the department of braids, at the department of the military, when we were practicing at the belbek military airfield, this is in sevastopol, where i took the oath myself. well, i

saw that, unfortunately, the army, the army is in ruins there no there is no such professional, but the horrors do not have the work that the military should perform, i will understand it now, the military are not psychologically prepared for their main purpose, it is to protect their homeland , to protect state sovereignty, that is , they are not made into military, it looks more like civilians in military uniform who perform i didn't like economic work at that time, then i basically studied military affairs. but you know it's amateurish there. we did airsoft. we did navigation. it gives a certain training, but it is not a full-fledged military affair. and what kind of army was it in 2014, when you actually joined the azov regiment

, then the azov battalion ? to conduct such a retrospective of the army of 2014 and the army of 2023, well, the chasm is a huge chasm, a colossal one, because when we joined the dobrobat, i and most of my comrades, we thought we were volunteers, we basically know nothing in this matter, we will help, we will come there, we will cover there we will cover the rear routes, maybe we will stand at roadblocks somewhere, but we and the ordinary soldiers will go to us , they will fight step by step, but for the most part we have seen that there is such an army and there are people standing in stars in epaulettes and do not know what to do at all they simply do nothing even in critical situations , they cannot help themselves, and we were simply forced to take this blanket

on ourselves. so, in the same way, the unit went to liberate mariupol, in the same way, in the vanguard, they went to maryinka, to ilovaisk. i know what is in azov for with your participation, the military school named after colonel yevhen konovalts was created. this school actually works, and i know that it is almost the only school in the ukrainian army in the armed forces of ukraine , in particular, which works according to nato standards . what kind of school is this? tell me, please, and with whose help it was created and what state it is in now, you know. the school was founded somewhere on a voluntary basis, that is , first of all, it is our first honorary commander at that time, people's deputy of ukraine andriy biletskyi, he agreed, found volunteers, then there are former soldiers who once served in the armies of georgia, the united states, and canada. there were ethnic ukrainians there to conduct a command and control

training course for officers . we officers who passed through this hot stage in the 14th and 15th years went to such and such a training course. we had a thirst for the struggle was such an ardent heart, but there were no professional skills , and the vyshkiv team gave us a penalty course, which, if you take it in the original, it consists of four large programs, it was supposed to last about a year and a half, we passed it in about 3.5 months with great intensity. that is, we studied, we studied the process of making a military decision . and in the planning phase, we planned 18 hours a day there, we were just pushed into such a system without sleep, constant work, constant workload. in mariupol , we will face these in the course of our military operations , then a big problem arose, this is the creation

of the newest sergeant corps. it was the creation of the sergeant's corps, and here it was, they selected the best of our best soldiers, sergeants, and sent them to this sergeant's course . about half of the candidates, about half of the cadets graduated from it, and they became the golden graduates of the konovalts military school, who became our first professional instructors when i picked up school at my teacher's friend, colonel georgy kuperashvili. we already have a challenge: the creation of new technical literature. western, that is, it was in principle our personal acquisitions, we translated the manuals of our western colleagues, combined them with our experience of the ato and embodied the main thing is to implement it in our reality, in our legal norms

, there were many obstacles, many things, but it worked out. the main thing is to activate the consciousness of ukrainian soldiers, because it is a thinking warrior, a thinking intellectually developed person, he will be able to survive on the battlefield, make the right decision at the right moment, that's why it's a western idea the military idea of ​​preserving human life. what is most important and most precious is that we have a man's place, they invest huge amounts of money in it for uniforms, but it is the man because they can send equipment and equipment, and nothing can be repaired if we lose a professional, well, it is a painful loss and even considering how resources are not restoration , therefore the principle of preservation of one's life has become

quite close to us, close in spirit. we can't, we couldn't afford to lose our guys, we couldn't afford to make tomorrow the mistakes that were made today, this process of professionalism became the creed of the military school, here we transformed, remelted iron into steel , created the azov ridge of the azov sergeant, more than a thousand azovs who accepted participated fought in mariupol, they came to the basic combat training course, almost all of our sergeants went through training at our sergeant school, and most of the officers also went through training at the base of our military school and it is this path to professionalism, the path to continuous development that created this phenomenon , despite the fact that russian propaganda constantly made huge obstacles to us, we were not given the support of western partners

, foreign missions did not teach us, we were taught first by a group of volunteers enthusiasts, then we developed everything ourselves, then we broke through such a chasm of the iron wall there and began to work there with the missions of the junior fire of gold , to create training programs for the entire national guard of ukraine and what distinguishes us we are certainly not looking for any excuses from other units. we are looking for opportunities, that is, in fact, you trained people on wheels while constantly being in russia and in a combat situation, and this actually distinguishes your regiment from all the others, because you had your own school , your own standards, and precisely against these standards, russian propaganda worked quite actively because they understood that, in principle, the army that fights according to nato standards is still an army of a new model and not a post -soviet army, which was the ukrainian army

for a long time. this is exactly our principle of our understanding, because the majority of those who came from the very beginning, we all came for one idea, we came not for the sake of serving there , to receive awards of some kind, just to get a good job, we came to win back our own at the beginning, more than half of the azov battalion consisted of people from of the occupied territories , there were crimeans, guys from luhansk, donetsk, and that is why our departure was based on just one thing, that is to return our own, to win an independent cathedral, a united ukraine, major, in 2015, you took part in pavlopil shykin

operation, you were the field commander and under whose leadership shykin was freed and held. second, she made it clear to the russians that they will not approach mariupol so easily, even though it is such an obvious possibility and they had such plans as of january 2015. look, if you explain it so simply, all military actions can be divided into three types, that is, they should have three tasks, there is a strategic task. and the strategic task that fell under the shikiv operation was to withdraw the reserves from the surrounded debaltsev, to give the opportunity to our units to our guys who are already in the ring to breathe out, to take some initiative, the operational task was already to withdraw the front line from mariupol

, to create a defense shield around mariupol , because at the time before the start of the shykin operation, there were no offensive actions in this sector, the front line, then all together we started immediately on the outskirts of the eastern microdistrict, and already the tactical task was to recapture pavlopil , but at first there was a secondary task, the wide one was supposed to be just a distracting maneuver. someone, we had an operational task to delay the creation of more for mariupol in the 22nd year it became a strategic task that we were able to recapture more than 20 km of our territory to create three more lines of defense, that's what we and made it possible to hold mariupol for such a long time, if

we were on the same borders as before this operation, the enemy would simply be from the east from three sides without flying into mariupol and yes, we had a chance, we had three lines of defense that held and what can you say, mr. major about the russians, the enemies of ukraine, the occupiers with whom you quite often came face to face, that is, what can be said about them , because now in the ukrainian media there is quite often and a widespread opinion that there are objects of mobs, they are there in different ways called well in order to actually devalue and say that they are nobody at all and their name is not the russian army and the soldiers of the russian army with whom you have been fighting since 2014, well, in fact, a third of your life

has come in the war and what can you say about the russians, how about the fighters, well, you know, face to face, this is not that kind of war anymore, we don’t have a significant ax in the line, we didn’t meet so often, mostly those who were already captured later, you can say about them that they were cynical hypocrites who tried to hang their crimes of destroying mariupol on us on us on polonin to force us to sign, to take responsibility for this, that is, personally, that is, we really did not do such a thing in our country, and we did not even have our own artillery in march, they destroyed the city and cynically tried to make us do it . to respect and underestimate your enemy because it usually leads to defeat, but they are all blinded by propaganda, i have seen it

personally, they are going, they are going, they are going. you all wondered how it is possible to believe this in the 20th and 21st, but they are in the village and climb and believe that they are fighting with mythical fascism, they are told that no , you can kill, you can destroy cities , but it is not your fault, it is their own fault and they are starting to believe in this, to find this excuse for one's conscience, yes, they don't have a conscience in this, they create, as i tell you, hypocrisy, they do everything cynically , that's why you know, there are some cases. officers respect each other, but i did not see it from them, if we are belonged to prisoners to the enemy, well, with respect they provided help, the enemy did not show such respect for us, therefore, you cannot underestimate

the enemy, russia knows how to adapt, russia can also draw conclusions, so the most important thing is not to relax , continue to do your job, because the truth is in all cases, she is behind us, we are on our own land, we are not fascists, we have not murdered or killed anyone, we protect our historical borders, our land, on which we have been living for more than a thousand years, our country has a thousand-year history, unfortunately, russia wants to take away and create its own. we cannot in any way prevent the change of these concepts, this is our land, therefore we will win, mr. kyrylo, you lived in mariupol for 8 years, and did you have a feeling then that there would be a big war in ukraine, and just such a war what well, it will almost completely destroy mariupol, and not only mariupol, but also other cities, you know. well, if you want peace, they say prepare for war, but since the 14th year

, that is, we already knew after ilovaisk . moreover, it was already a war, we already saw the invasion of russian mechanized units yes, without aviation, but it was unfortunately then the world community put the brakes on it somehow, they did not make the appropriate reaction the vase division, all our existence , all our work , that's why we stayed after the 14th and 15th years, continue to serve, continue to fight , continue to defend our ukraine, because we understood. we waited for the invasion in the 16th, in the 17th, in the 19th, we waited until the 22nd. unfortunately

, many of us often did not hear from us, the whole world , the whole country, constantly repeated that russia is the enemy, they are already fighting a hybrid war, they are rolling out their troops the day will come when they will launch a full-scale attack and that is why, in principle, our whole philosophy was to prepare people for the challenges of this war tomorrow, for this full-scale war of the year, which is exactly what we saw on february 24, in principle, the azovians were all ready for this because, uh, the whole towers, a vinedresser falls, a civilian falls into the ranks, passes the basic combat training course at the very end of the course, i tell them, guys, yes, you have already passed most of the tests, but you are really ready to defend your country tomorrow, maybe to the last, maybe at the cost of your health and

life, but victory it will be up to us, if you agree, we will stand with you with a ball to our shoulders. you are our brothers on this path, a ukrainian warrior. let 's talk a little about azov, because over the past 9 years and during your stay in azov and the formation of the azov battalion of the azov volunteer battalion in the regiment, a lot of time has passed and the transformation of the azov regiment has taken place. the azov regiment became part of the national guard of ukraine and probably turned into one of the most effective combat regiments in ukraine, which prevented other volunteer battalions from going this way. came with a clear understanding of what the majority of battalions are that we have to win back our independence that our independence from the very beginning

of the restoration of independence in 1991, it was in threats in a hybrid way with constant threats, and when it already started, full-fledged hostilities between terrorist hostilities began, because in the definition of military operations, the grandfather refers to the actions of organized formations, and unorganized terrorist formations, rather organized by our enemy, acted against us, that is, they did not call it an invasion, they did not confirmed their aggression and did not use the methods of terrorist-terrorism, you know, the enemy acted against us in the 18th and 38th years by the method of terror, by the method of intimidation, that is, by the method constantly fighting with each other, they use propaganda, you, they use their ipso, i won’t say for most battalions, but some of which i know that hindered them were hindered

by internal disputes, often played along with from the outside, and so it is these disputes and mutual accusations that have separated many effective gas units in our country the idea of ​​brotherhood was based on the idea of ​​brotherhood of such a round table, most of the key decisions were made collectively after discussing the analysis of the so-called wargaming theories of war games, that's why unity was our second base again at the very beginning and it was she who left us the structural unit will give us we have gone through many stages of transformation, difficult times, many obstacles from the side of the authorities, many of our own tinder moments because this process of constantly improving the study of military affairs

it is difficult. it requires maximum concentration . i will tell you that there is still a majority that more than 10,000 people have served in the battalion of the regiment . and now i will probably say that 90 more than 90% of all people are fighting are fighting in other formations as part of the armed forces of the national police of ukraine, we are gur, that is, they are fighting, they got towers, they got this , the world perception passed this military fairy tale and they understood they understood ours, they went there , they went to civilian life, but they knew that they would return. all of them they said that when they are released, a full-scale war will begin, we will return . unfortunately, we were surrounded and most of the people returned as members of other units

, but that is exactly what i am saying. can we allow some internal ego internal disputes to divide us within the country within our divisions that is why here it is in our unity the unity of the ukrainian and maybe there is a recipe recipe for victory the recipe for this path the path to get yours to the end friends we work live on the espresso tv channel also in our on social networks and on youtube, for those who are currently watching us on youtube or facebook, please like this video, e-e, write comments or questions to kyrylo berkarya kyrylo berkaletsya major of the national guard of ukraine, the commander of the military school of the azov regiment, the former commander of the second infantry battalion, a man who has been fighting in the russian-ukrainian war for nine years and a man who came out of captivity, he was a defender of azovstalia and in september he returned from

captivity on february 24, you said that while you were in mariupol, while living in mariupol, you felt that this great war would start sooner or later , how did the beginning of a large-scale russian invasion of ukraine begin for you? i was in in principle, we had a plan for the defense of mariupol, in the event of a full-scale armed aggression, we had to act according to a certain plan, and in principle, before the official address of the aggressor president, artillery training had already begun on the demarcation line, there was no such thing even that the period of the shykiv offensive operation and in principle we understood we understood what would now begin well and therefore in principle we were already

ready we were resting we knew that it was possible the last minutes seconds of our hours of sleep and after the first rockets, we simply dissolved in the city, took up our positions and began working to prepare the city for defense, because the main problem was that we were not given access to the critical infrastructure of the city. until the very beginning of the invasion, we did not even have access to engineering works, because most of the - there, the fields belonged to farmers and the city administration for some reason already held, held this permission to carry out engineering works, therefore, with the first invasion of the first announcement, we began simply titanic efforts so that mariupol would have at least