[000:00:00;00] i think you are all great guys. virtually hugged everyone who donated. thank you, dear tv viewers, for your not only financial , but also informational activity. well, now we will finish our broadcast little by little. visas in moscow are such a small thing, but relations . by the way, with the russian federation for the last year, it is not included in the list of countries with which russia is very friendly . everyone tries to stay away from what smells bad, as they say, the best is the best next to this reduction of this unpleasant substance called the russian federation, our armed forces of ukraine and

the defense forces . -e be with us verdict serhiy rudenko next glory to ukraine this is a program verdict my name is serhiy rudenko good day and good health to all today february 7, 349 days of heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers the verkhovna rada of ukraine appointed the head of the security service of ukraine, vasyl makyk, the russians are regrouping in separate areas, the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine reports, the main efforts of the occupiers are concentrating their offensive actions on the kupyan , liman, bakhmut, maldivian, and novopavlov directions, meanwhile , the russian army continues to lose manpower and equipment in in ukraine, as of the morning of february 7 , russia has already lost 133,190 people in ukraine in just the last day, the armed forces of ukraine

destroyed 1,030 orks at the beginning of the great war russians have already lost in ukraine 3,245 tanks, 643 armored fighting vehicles, 2 or 32 artillery systems, 461 rocket salvo systems, 227 anti -aircraft defenses , 294 aircraft, 284 helicopters, 51,107 vehicles, 18 boats, 796 cruise missiles - 1,958 drones, 208 units of special equipment. our special guest is the legendary commander of the military school named after colonel yevhen konovalts of the azov regiment, ex-commander of the second infantry battalion, major of the national guard of ukraine, knight of the order of merit

of the third degree kyrylo berkal p major good day good health to you and i am glad to see you on the air of espresso tv channel good day serhiy let's see you so major let's start with your rather long biography because nine years of the russian-ukrainian war all nine years you have been at the front for five years. you are one of the veterans of the azov regiment. they know that before the russian-ukrainian war you were not involved in military affairs. you graduated from the national aviation university , majoring in international law and criminology. of international terrorism and simultaneously graduated from the military department in 2013 with the beginning of the revolution of dignity, you worked far from ukraine and then returned to ukraine and joined the azov regiment, which prompted you to leave everything far abroad and

return to ukraine 9 years ago. well, you know how else for i mean, i didn’t have a choice. my parents brought me up like that. i understood that my country was an enemy once again. the landing was already in the crimea when i was already a green man. although i graduated from the military department, i still took the oath of loyalty to the ukrainian to the people, that is, i was already an officer, so for me the choice was obvious , you have to go back, you have to do something about it, but you were far from ukraine. as far as i know, your work was connected with being thousands of kilometers from ukraine, if i'm not mistaken, in thailand how did kyrylo berkal turn from the manager of a successful company from a successful manager into a soldier of the azov regiment, well, it was quite

a thorny path, the path to becoming a real warrior , that is, well, it was really difficult, i had to plow my first leg because i understood that to give somehow to give the council some way to manage this matter will require a lot of work. moreover, from the first days there were already challenges , there were real challenges and threats, well, which had to be countered and countered until now. i understand that kirt is a part of your name kirill and what does it mean in this situation? well , it is somewhere like that, almost yes, it is consonant student days and school days. i am a big fan of history, but in the history of russia, the history of

scandinavia. and kirt is antiquity in the scandinavian language it sounds like an ax. and i usually fought with this ax at parades, someone took part, it was my totem, well , now we hope that they will give us tamagavka axes and we will be able to fight again with axes in the war of the 21st century. i know mr. kirill. what are you from the big uh, military families, your grandfathers were military , you always dreamed of military service, but you worked in civil aviation, you always wanted to be a military man, or how did you even join the military, you know, most boys dream of being as a military policeman i was certainly not an exception, we always played similar games i wanted to become a professional soldier even after school i had a hot idea to go to the line there , my parents convinced me with great efforts to study there first, go to the department, if you decide

you want to go, well in principle, at the department of kosi, at the department of the military, when we went through practice at the belbek military airfield, it is in sevastopol, where i myself took the oath. well, i saw that, unfortunately, the army, the army is in ruins , there is no such professional one, but the horrors do not have the work that the military is supposed to perform, i understand it now, the military are not psychologically prepared for their main purpose, it is to protect their homeland , to protect the state sovereignty, that is , they are not made into the military, it looks more like civilians in military uniform who perform economic work for me then it did not suit me then i basically studied military affairs. but you know, that’s what amateurism is like there. we

were engaged in airsoft. military affairs, what kind of army was it in 2014, when you actually joined the azov regiment, then the azov battalion, how did it look , looking at the 9 years that have already passed , can you conduct such a retrospective of the army of 2014 and the army of 2023, well, the chasm is a huge chasm, a colossal chasm, because when we joined the dobrobats, i and most of my comrades thought we were volunteers , we basically don’t know anything in this matter, we will help, we will come there, we will cover there, we will cover the rear routes somewhere there we will stand at the posts, but we and the ordinary soldiers will go to us, then we will fight step by step, but for the most part we saw that there is no army as such, that there are people standing in stars in epaulettes and do not know what to do

, but in general they simply do nothing even in critical situations can help themselves, and we were simply forced to take this blanket on ourselves . so, the unit went to liberate mariupol, and in the vanguard, they went to maryinka and ilovaisk. i know that in azov, with your participation, a military school was created named after colonel yevhen konovalts, this school actually works, and i know that it is almost the only school in the ukrainian army in the armed forces of ukraine, in particular, which works according to nato standards . what kind of school is this? tell me, please, with whose help it was created and in what condition it is now you know, the school was founded somewhere on a voluntary basis , that is, first of all, this is our first honorary commander at that time, the people's deputy of ukraine andriy

biletskyi, he agreed to find volunteers, that is, former soldiers who once served in in the armies of georgia, the united states, and canada, there were ethnic ukrainians there to conduct a command training school for officers , and we officers who passed through this hot stage of 14-15 years got into such and such a school for us . there were no professional skills and we were given a high school team penalty course, which is if we take it in the original, it consists of four large programs, it was supposed to last about one and a half years, we passed it in about 3.5 months with great intensity, that is, we studied, we studied the process of acceptance of a military decision. and in the planning phase, we planned 18 hours a day there, we were just pushed into such a system without sleep , constant work, constant workload

. this is exactly what we will say in the future. we will face this in mariupol. we will face these during of our military operations , then a big problem arose: the creation of the newest sergeant corps. they explained to us exactly how the officer and sergeant ranks should work, so the next challenge was the creation of the sergeant corps, and they selected some of our best soldiers sergeants and sent them to this non-commissioned officer course, about half of the candidates, about half of the cadets graduated from it, and they became the golden graduates of the konovaltsi military school who became our first professional instructors when i took over the school from my teacher friend, colonel georgy kuperashvili . the creation of new technical literature, that is, the translation of the western field manual, that is, it was basically our

personal acquisition, we translated the manuals of our western colleagues, combined them with our experience of the ato and implemented the main thing is to implement it in our reality in our legal norms, there were many obstacles, many things, but it turned out . somewhere the main thing was to start the analysis , the main thing was to start the consciousness of ukrainian soldiers, because it is the thinking soldier, the thinking intellectually developed person who will be able to survive on the field battle, to make the right decision at exactly the right moment, therefore, the western idea is the military idea of ​​preserving human life. what is most important and most precious is that we have a human place, they invest huge amounts of money in it uniforms, but it’s the person because the equipment can be sent to the equipment, and nothing can be repaired if we lose a professional, well, it’s a painful loss, and even if we take into account the resources, it’s not a recovery

, so the principle of preserving one’s life has become quite close in spirit for us, because all our combat the way it is based on brotherhood on brotherhood in combat that is why we cannot we could not afford to lose our boys we could not afford to make mistakes tomorrow that were made today so this is the process of professionalism became the creed of the military school here, we transformed, melted iron into steel, created the azov ridge of the azov sergeant, more than a thousand azov who took part fought in mariupol, they came to the basic combat training course, almost all of our sergeants passed the towers in our sergeant school, and most of the officers also passed the base of our military school and it is precisely this path to professionalism, the path to continuous development that created this phenomenon, despite

the fact that constantly russian propaganda made huge obstacles for us, we did not receive support from western partners, foreign missions did not teach us, we were taught first by a group of volunteer enthusiasts, then we developed everything ourselves, only then did we break through such a chasm of an iron wall there and began to work there with the missions of junior fire gold to create educational programs for the entire national guard of ukraine, and it certainly distinguishes us from other units, we are not looking for any excuses. we are looking for opportunities , that is, in fact, you trained people on wheels constantly being in russia and in a combat situation, and this actually distinguishes your regiment from all the others, because you had your own school, your own standards, and it was against these standards that russian propaganda worked quite actively, because they understood that, in

principle, an army that fights according to nato standards after all, there are armies of a new model, not a post soviet army, what was the ukrainian army like for a long time, yes, you are right , this is exactly what our prince is, our understanding, because the majority of those who came from the very beginning, we all came for the same idea, we we did not come to serve there, to receive awards of some kind, just to get a good job, we came to win back our own at the beginning, more than half of the azov battalion consisted of people from the occupied territories, these were crimean guys from luhansk, donetsk, and therefore our departure was based on just one thing: to return our independent cathedral united ukraine, major, in 2015

, you took part in the pavlopil shykin operation . the special operation may have been forgotten by some of our tv viewers, because quite a lot of time has passed, but this shykin operation was, firstly, successful, and secondly , it made it clear to the russians that they will not get to mariupol so easily, even though they have such an obvious possibility and such plans were as of january 2015. look, if you explain it so simply, all military operations can be divided into three types, that is, they must have three tasks , that is, a

strategic task. debaltsev is surrounded by reserves to give our units the opportunity to our guys who are already in the ring to take a breath and take some initiative. the operational task was to withdraw the front line from mariupol and create a defense shield around mariupol because at the time before the start of the shykin operation in this sector, there were no offensive actions in this sector. the front line then all started together immediately on the outskirts of the eastern microdistrict, and already the tactical task was, that is, the reconquest of pavlopil was wide but little , at first the secondary task was wide and little to be just a distracting maneuver, the main offensive was planned for pavlovka, but as always happens, what is at first the main task becomes a secondary one, and vice versa, and it was definitely an operational task for us to delay creating even for mariupol in the 22nd year it became a strategic task that we were able to repulse more than 20

km of our territory, to create three more lines of defense, that is exactly what we were able to hold mariupol for so long, if we were on the same borders as before this operation, the enemy is simply the east of the three parties would have flown into mariupol without the raids. and so we had a chance, we had three lines of defense that held and what can you, mr. major, say about the russians, the enemies of ukraine, the occupiers, with whom you quite often came face to face, that is, what can you say about them because now, in the ukrainian media, there is quite a common and widespread opinion that there are mobic objects, they are called differently there, well , in order to actually devalue them and say that they are nobody at all, and

they are not called the russian army and russian fighters the armies with which you fought since 2014, well, in fact, a third of your life was spent in the war. and what can you say about the russians, as well as about the soldiers? well, you know , face to face, this is no longer such a war. often mostly those who were later in captivity, you can say about them that they were cynical hypocrites who tried to hang their crimes of destruction of mariupol on us, on us as prisoners, to make us sign, to take responsibility for it, that is, personally we really didn't do this in our country and we didn't even have our own artillery in march, they destroyed the city and cynically tried to make us

do it. blinded propaganda, i have seen it personally, they go, they go, they go, they created this picture , which, well, it does not enter the mind of a sane person back in the 14th , you mentioned how can you believe this in the 20th, in the 21st, and they are in the village, climbing their ass and holiday believe that they are fighting mythical fascism, they are solemnly told no, you can kill, you can destroy cities, but it is not your fault, it is their own fault, and they begin to believe it, find this excuse for their conscience , yes, they have no conscience in this, they create, as i tell you, strength hypocrisy, they do it cynically, that's why you know, there are some cases. officers respect each other , but i didn't see it from them, if we usually

treated prisoners like the enemy, well, with respect they provided help, then the enemy is like that he did not show respect to us, that is why you cannot underestimate the enemy, russia knows how to adapt, russia can also draw conclusions , so the most important thing is not to relax, continue to do your job, because the truth is in all cases . we protect our historical borders , our land, on which we have been living for more than a thousand years , our country has a thousand-year history, unfortunately , which russia wants to take away and create its own. we cannot in any case prevent a change of these concepts, this is our land, that's why we will win mr. kirill, you lived in mariupol for 8 years and did you have the feeling that there will be a big war in ukraine and just such a war that

will almost completely destroy mariupol and not only mariupol and other cities, you know well you want peace, they say prepare for war, but since the 14th year, that is, we already knew after ilovaisk . moreover, that is, it was already a war, we already saw the invasion of russian mechanized units without aircraft, but it was a pity, then the world community somehow put it down to the brakes did not make the appropriate reaction. russia of course groped us, yes. so this can be said in the 21st century, a big country with great weapons and great capabilities can do anything to dictate its will , that's why it is in the vase division that all of our existence, all of our work, that's why we stayed after the 14th

in the 15th year, continue to serve, continue to fight , continue to defend our country, because we understood. on the 19th, they waited until the 22nd. unfortunately, many of us often did not hear from us. the whole world is pushing us, the whole country constantly repeated that russia is the enemy, they are already fighting a hybrid war, they are rolling out their troops, the day will come when they will attack with a full-scale attack, and that is how it happened in principle. vazov, our whole philosophy was to prepare people for the challenges of this war , tomorrow, for this full-scale war of the year, what exactly we saw on february 24. absolutely everyone was ready for this, because, uh, all the towers, the vine-dresser falls, a civilian falls into the regiments passes the basic

combat training course at the very end of the course, i tell them, guys, yes, you have already passed most of the tests, but you are really ready to defend your country tomorrow , maybe to the last, maybe at the cost of your health and life, but the victory will be ours , if you agree, we will to stand with you with the ball up to the shoulder. you are our brothers on this path of the warrior's path, the ukrainian warrior . let's talk a little about azov, because over the past 9 years and during your stay in azov and the formation of the azov battalion of the azov volunteer battalion in the regiment, a lot of time passed and a transformation took place. the azov regiment became part of the national guard of ukraine and apparently turned into one of the most effective combat regiments in ukraine, which prevented other volunteer battalions from going this way. as i told you, we came to this pressure

with a clear the understanding of the majority of battalions that we have to regain our independence that our independence from the very beginning of the restoration of independence in 1991, it was threatened by hybrid means by constant threats and when it had already begun, full-fledged hostilities between terrorist hostilities began, because in the definition of military operations, my grandfather refers to the actions of organized formations , and unorganized, or rather , terrorist formations organized by our enemy, acted against us, that is , they did not call it an invasion, they did not confirm their aggression and divided you know us using the methods of terror-town terrorism, the enemy acts against us as in the 18th and 38th years using the method of terror, the method of intimidation, that is

, the method of constantly fighting with each other they use propaganda, you, they use their ipso, i won't say for the majority of battalions , but some of which i know that hindered them were hindered by internal disputes, often played on from the outside, etc. the brotherhood of such a round table, most of the key decisions were made collectively after discussing the analysis of the so-called wargaming theory of battle waves, so this is unity again, at the very beginning, she was our second base and it was she who left us, the structural unit will give us we went through many stages of transformation, difficult times, many obstacles from

the side of the authorities, many er-e own tinder moments, because this process of constantly improving the study of military affairs is difficult. it requires maximum concentration, i will tell you that there is still a majority, that more than 10,000 people have served in the battalion of the regiment. and now i will definitely say that 90 more than 90% of all people are fighting in other formations in the armed forces of ukraine of the national police, we are the gur, that is, they are fighting, they got towers, they got this, the world perception passed this military fairy tale and they understood, they understood ours , they went there, they went to civilian life, but they knew that they would return. everyone said that when they were released, a full-scale war would begin

, we would return. were surrounded and most of the people returned. well, if they were part of other units, but that's what i'm saying, unity , now there's a war. we can't allow some internal ego internal disputes to divide us within the country internally of our divisions, therefore, here it is precisely in our unity, the unity of the ukrainian, and perhaps there is a recipe for victory, a recipe for this path, the path to get yours to the end, friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our social networks and on youtube for those who are currently watching us on youtube or on facebook, please like this video e-e write comments or questions to kyrylo berkarya kyrylo berkaletsya major of the national guard of ukraine commander of the military school of the azov regiment former commander

of the second infantry battalion a person who already fought in the russian-ukrainian war for nine years, and the person who came out of captivity was a defender of the azov steel and in september he returned from captivity, let's, mr. kirill , remember about february 24, you said that while you were in mariupol, living in in mariupol, did you feel that this great war would start sooner or later, how did the beginning of the large-scale invasion of russia into ukraine begin for you? full-scale, we had to act according to a certain plan and, in principle, before the official appeal of the aggressor president, artillery training had already begun on the demarcation line, this was not even the

period of the shykiv offensive operation, and in principle we understood, we understood what would now begin well, that is why in principle we were already ready. we rested. we knew that this was possible . the last minutes, seconds, and hours of our sleep, and so on. after the first rockets, we simply dissolved in the city, took up our positions and began to work on preparing the city for defense, because the main thing the problem was that we were not given access to the critical infrastructure of the city until the very beginning of the invasion, we didn't even have access to engineering works, because most of the fields there belonged to farmers, and the city administration for some reason already held held this permission to carry out engineering works with the first beginning of