[000:00:00;00] therefore, not only the kremlin and the russian ministry of foreign affairs, they are also following up with russian opinion leaders, propagandists, officials like kadyrov or informal leaders like prigozhin, and simply bloggers, warmongers who are sometimes even more radical than the kremlin itself, who openly want the blood of ukrainians, who want war and the complete takeover of ukraine very soon on february 24 , just on the anniversary of the invasion , joint military exercises of the fleet of the south african republic of russia and china will take place, that is, russia is really winning in

information war in africa, that's all for today, turn on our program tomorrow at 21:00. good luck and take care . we listen to people suffering from rheumatism. but it's arthritic, it's impossible to get used to it , it doesn't allow you to move. it saves me from pain in rheumatism, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility dolgit - the only yellow cream for joint and back pain congratulations, this is freedom lyme's name is my own lazar, we are starting russian energy monopoly gazprom oil creates its own private military company meanwhile, the wagnerites continue to recruit prisoners for the war in ukraine, wagner's group is also called a private company

, but in fact it is not quite. so why has the party not yet recognized the wagnerites as a terrorist organization like dil or al-qaeda and to give such recognition let's talk in a minute, in the situation around bakhmut in donetsk region , any scenarios are not excluded , the head of the region said in response to our question whether it is possible to take over the city so that it is happening in bakhmut right now, we will show you soon well, the verkhovna rada of ukraine appointed vasyl the kid to the post of head of the security service, how politically independent is the kid and does he have the will to investigate the actions of his predecessor ivan bakanov, about it today in svoboda life , the russian energy monopoly gazprom neft plans to create its own private military company about it ukrainian intelligence reports that the decree on the creation of the pvc was signed by the head of the russian government mykhailo mishustin, the document that

was published in the group dated february 4, 2023 this is what ukrainian intelligence officers point out since the beginning of the year. the so-called arms race among the main political players in russia is ongoing, they are creating anti-tank weapons one after the other. following the example of yevgeny prigozhin and his wagner group, just yesterday the verkhovna rada of ukraine approved a resolution on the recognition of all russian private military companies as terrorist organizations, the ukrainian authorities believe that in the future this will affect the confiscation of russian assets or so we will talk soon, but i will remind you that against the background of the news about the probable repeated russian attack on wagner's recruiters have been visiting ukraine since december last year for the second time around russian colonies in search of potential recruits , this was reported by mediazone the day before . and he himself no longer visits prisons. and he sends his representatives, the media zone writes. and although

the kremlin denies its connection with wagner's group, it seems that it has not been a secret for a long time that wagner has no not a private military company recruiting prisoners, sending them to war, pardoning or even burial with honors, it is unlikely that all this happens without the consent of the kremlin and russian government structures, in fact , wagner's group remains one of the pillars on which russian aggression in ukraine is supported. obviously, this will affect the kremlin's ability to continue the war. so what is the problem? and who can really weaken this group of wagner ? this is what we will talk about today, but first we will remind you of what happened in recent weeks. distinguished yevgeny prigozhin and his so-called pvc, in addition to loud statements about the seizure of ukrainian settlements and criticism of the military leadership of russia, boasted of bombing bakhma and such an air duel , these shots with the owner of pvk wagner, which the united states recognized as a transnational criminal organization, appeared on the network

the day before bachmutu tomorrow i will sit on the copper 29 if there will be wishes if yours will be taken by the third artem if not we are going to the dnipro meanwhile mercenaries pvk wagner in a telegram flaunts allegedly significant successes in the vicinity bakhmut reports about the capture of several people with salt, it was difficult now, war crimes were committed by the wagnerites, where is the testimony of the ex-mercenary commander andriy medvedev, who requested political asylum in norway , we took four captives, brought them accordingly , handed them over to the platoon commander, and they asked them, and they did not receive any information, that's all here three people will be executed, they were

shot in the village, cool, now the former wagnerite sees a threat to his own life , to realize that there are people who can be counted a compatriot and who, just by some command of my google, they can come and kill you by yourself. the most terrible woman in the telegram channel is the wagnerian woman, next to the promises of a beautiful woman to grant the status of a combat veteran even to recruits, the content of deprivation of liberty, the advertisement of knives of our own production, we are again launching our superaction for two, the sale of a mini columbia two knives , you will have time to buy for only 2500 rubles , moreover, according to the publications of diazona , the second wave of recruitment of wagner prisoners, who are serving their sentences in exchange, has started for a pardon, regardless of what crimes a person has committed, this was previously stated, and prigozhin

himself, putin's press secretary piskov, admitted in a bbc comment that criminals recruited in the colonies were personally pardoned by putin in accordance with russian legislation. despite this, the kremlin insists, they say, that wagner's private structure is not connected with the state maksym hrabovsky radio freedom well , almost a year after the full-scale invasion yesterday, february 6, the verkhovna rada of ukraine, in addition to approving the resolution on the recognition of all russian private military companies and terrorist organizations also recognized the wagner group of yevhen yevgena prigozhina as an international criminal organization, but what does this all give in practice? and what else should the world, in particular, western countries, do to really cut off the oxygen of the so-called russian pvk and in particular wagnerode, we will talk about this now dmytro zolotukhin, executive director of the institute of post-information society , joined our broadcast dmytro my greetings greetings good evening sorry for the bad connection

now due to the performance of the light but thanks to answer your questions yes, let's first explain to us in ordinary, simple words. and what does the fact that ukraine recognized them as an international criminal organization mean for the wagnerites? how can this help weaken this group in the future? the verkhovna rada of ukraine adopted two resolutions, a resolution calling on international governments parliaments to recognize private military organizations as terrorist organizations, it was actually submitted by the european solidarity party back in 2020 against the background of the wagner scandal of their detention in minsk by the belarusian special services. now this decree was obtained, it was slightly rewritten and instead of the wagnerites, they wrote that all private military companies should be recognized as terrorists. there is only one problem in russia. there are no private

military companies. there is no legislation that describes the existence of legal entities . they are officially called private military. this is the very name of the company. there is no way that russian private military companies exist in nature in legal practice. this will be just nonsense and our western partners do not will be able to ignore it at all, the second resolution that was adopted defines the wagner group, which, including the very name, is a private military organization , a private military company, and defines the wagner group as an international criminal organization in order to simply explain to the audience in simple words what there is a difference, as an example , and the american air strike that was carried out in the center of tehran in january 2020, with the help of the us air force

, a strike was made to kill kasim suleimanit who was the head of intelligence, the head of special operations of the so-called islamic revolutionary guard corps, the islamic revolutionary guard corps is an iranian organization that is included in the list of foreign terrorist organizations under the laws of the united states, and with terrorist organizations , uh, this is how the united states does not negotiate with them er, the civilized world does not negotiate with terrorists, they are only destroyed. as for criminal organizations, their activities are documented , their assets are selected all over the world they are trying to bring them to justice in court, but no airstrikes and no missile strikes against them occur because there is no such infrastructure, neither legislative nor military, which is actually reflected from the point of view of the logic of the actions of the top countries of the world such as the usa and great britain in general nato

structures and so on, that is why we have a small number of conflicts that were laid by these resolutions, which , unfortunately, did not take into account the expert opinion , although only i talked to more than three deputies about it simply on it is a great pity that it was not possible to reach you now. international criminal organization is really a name that, let's say, is in the context of the legislation adopted in the usa. in the usa, such organizations are called transnational criminal organizations in order to emphasize that crimes are committed not only on the territory of one country, but throughout globe, in this case, it refers to the activities of yevgeny podroghin and his accomplices, who intervene and overthrow the constitutional order in

african countries, who smuggle weapons smuggling of diamonds smuggling of natural resources from and to the countries of africa er and the countries of the middle east mean syria libya central african republic south sudan mozambique nigeria small er and so on and so on and so on and so on i wanted to say that you mentioned the murder of suleimani, and there was also a case when in the summer of last year in afghanistan during special operations, the leader of the leaders of al-qaeda was also killed. that is, this is also an organization that is recognized as a terrorist in the states, and this is also a clear example of what the united states is doing with leaders of terrorist organizations, if the united states recognizes the wagnerites as just an international criminal organization, well, this does not actually mean the persecution of the leaders of this organization. i think what it means is that the infrastructure of combating terrorism in the world looks completely different from the infrastructure of combating organized

crime in ukraine the infrastructure of the fight against terrorism, which is reflected in the law of ukraine on the fight against terrorism, is one of the best in the world in ukraine, the security service of ukraine actually worked a huge experience in this field is an extremely powerful unit of alpha, eh, this is actually the special forces of the security service and legislative procedures, and they , in principle, correspond to, i understand why, uh, the united states and the white house do not want to recognize wagner as a terrorist organization, because in this case, they will have to admit that the ministry defense of russia a officially or unofficially and not publicly supports the terrorist activities of wagner, which is actually sponsoring terrorism on the territory of ukraine, on the territory

of the countries of africa and the middle east due to the american government, which says that it is not leading a victory, will be forced to close certain tracks of negotiations with terrorists and terrorist organizations in accordance with the russians, accordingly, the white house does not want this, in particular, mr. jake sullivan, and this is understandable, but it is not very clear to me why are we killing wagnerites by the thousands on ukrainian soil, who came here to rape, slaughter, torture ukrainian residents, and why do we not recognize wagner as a terrorist organization? i think it is very important for us to have both at the same time tracks, i.e., the fight against crime led by yevgeny prigozhin not only in ukraine but throughout the world, and it is correctly called transnational or international crime, and he heads this organization, but at the same time, the wagner group commits political acts , carries out terrorist activities, and this terrorist activity must receive a proper

evaluation and the correct legal context, which in fact has already been developed, the security service of ukraine, the national police, the general prosecutor's office, etc. and so on and so on , all these bodies they have enough arguments, there are enough legal tools to do all this , unfortunately, a little bit of strategic vision and leadership is lacking in this activity. just and the rest of the assets are not just the pursuit of criminals and documenting the specific destruction of people who commit torture rape murder around the world well , you yourself just said that if the white house

recognizes wagner as a terrorist organization, everything is fine, according to the pentagon, about 100 million dollars are spent on wagner’s maintenance every month. obviously, this is not yevhen prigozhina’s personal money. obviously, it comes to him from some state or related state structures. if the united states recognizes wagner as a terrorist organization, then the next step will obviously be recognition russia is a terrorist state and i don't really want to do that, they are absolutely right . i think that this is exactly the kind of political logic embedded in this legal mechanism itself. which was applied and must be respected to the policy of our key partner, the only thing i don't see is why ukraine can't uh with the help of its legal mechanisms still call a spade a spade and use both 23 i.e. i 'm not saying that we need to criticize anyone i'm not saying that we need to give up something. i'm just saying that in these conditions , we need all the means that are possible and

not only the means of our american partners, but also the means of other countries, and other countries have already taken such initiatives for example, the european parliament, er, there is an initiative to recognize wagner as a terrorist organization, the parliament of canada, the parliament is not a parliament, but it is, er, it is essentially the ministry of the interior of great britain, home office, what is it called, they are currently working on the same topic, that is, we have international partners who all still use such rhetoric and i do not think that we need to give up some tools in the context of the fact that the united states and the white house may not be able to fully use them based on

the priorities of your international and american policy, and you, in fact, like dily and alka. well, if, for example, it turns out that a number of countries, such as britain and other countries, recognize the wagnerites as terrorists, and the united states does not , you can be like that, theoretically, you can be like that, and we don’t have to for that not to do anything and not be sad and not happy because we understand that each country of our partners has its own national interests and they primarily pursue their own national interests - this is normal a but at the same time, we need to talk about the fact that ukraine also has its own national interests and pursue them. it was not for nothing that at the beginning of my own comment i gave the example of the islamic revolution guards corps. wagner himself is such an islamic revolution guards corps for russia, it is an absolutely terrorist religious organization that including based on some beliefs on some

er concepts of prisons introduced by yevgeny prigozhin himself. personally, it is not for nothing that they use 40,000 according to the american intelligence, the number of e-e hares that were actually recruited by this organization in order to die in ukraine e-e, well, actually e-e , it does not have any official representation , there is not a single legal entity e-e, there is only the actual brand that is officially linked now on one of the buildings in st. petersburg, and there is this shopping mall, how wonderful this photo is, it is different everywhere. and you have already mentioned the ukrainian side several times and wondered why ukraine does not recognize wagner as a terrorist

organization yes, yes, for some reason, there is an explanation, i do not have an answer to this question, it is obvious that in ukraine it depends more on law enforcement agencies than on the parliament , that is, there is a special law of ukraine on the fight against terrorism, there are procedures that must be carried out by the anti-terrorist center, which is located in the infrastructure infrastructure of the security service of ukraine, but precisely in the resolution or in these two resolutions that were adopted and made public the day before yesterday, well, actually , these mechanisms were applied in what the logic of such an approach is not entirely clear to me and we have to go somehow in the formator of activity and shapers and negotiations with our american partners , but i emphasize once again that they have their own interests and the logic of these interests in ukraine has its own logic of national interests. i don't see any conflict here. i don't see here that we should somehow try to record

all legal facts only as the white house says, thank you very much dmytro zolotukhin , executive director of the institute of post-information society, former deputy minister of information policy, we talked about the prospect of recognizing the wagnerites as terrorists, thank you very much. well, now for personnel news, today the cabinet of ministers supported the appointment of three new heads of regional military administrations. i would like to remind you that on january 24, volodymyr zelenskyi dismissed the heads of the kherson, sumy, zaporozhye , dnipropetrovsk regions today, three of these regions dnipropetrovsk, zaporizhzhya , kherson got new managers, and it is interesting if they were previously appointed to such positions well, so to speak, the masters say, now the trend is changing, obviously because of the war, for example, serhii lysak, an employee of the security service of ukraine , will head the dnipropetrovsk

region. he was the head of the sbu in the dnipropetrovsk region . oleksandr prokudin will become the head of the kherson region, as reported by the kherson publication most about codein. until the 21st year, he headed the main directorate of the national police in the kherson region in this position he was suspended several times and was allegedly close to the omer of kherson, igor kolikhaev, whose whereabouts are currently unknown. and this is how the bridge publication wrote in the 21st year, after the last suspension of prokun , he did not hand over the keys to the office and his successor had to break down the door. such a detail is interesting. in addition, the verkhovna rada of ukraine today appointed vasyl makyk to the post of head of the security service of ukraine . on the eve of his candidacy , volodymyr zelenskyy proposed taking into account the results of the work and the passed inspection of the full-scale the appointment of the kid was justified by the war, the president said today in the verkhovna rada. and this is what the kid himself said when speaking to the deputies. listen, in the ukrainian epic, we

honor such a hero as a cossack. mama , there is a picture in my office where he is depicted with a bandura sitting on the skulls of the enemies of ukraine , so death is the only perspective we can offer the occupiers vasyl malovka since the second year since zelensky removed ivan bakanov from his duties, the kid was the first deputy the head of the sbu in january 2020 appointed him as the first deputy head of the main department for combating corruption and organized crime of the sbu. subsequently, he headed this department, the work of which, by the way , was highly criticized by anti-corruption experts, a full-scale invasion, but the kid also met the already deceased deputy minister of internal affairs denys monastyrskyi the kid was appointed to the ministry of internal affairs literally a week before the russian invasion, but already at the beginning of march 22

, he returned to the sbu as the first deputy of ivan bakanov well, when the bakanovs were first suspended before bakanov and then released, the kid began to perform his duties quite loudly, which alone is worth the almost weekly searches in the churches of the uoc mp people with whom we also spoke several times in this studio in particular they said that it was the kid's initiative to take a closer look at what is happening in the forms of the uoc-mp, they say that bakanov lacked the political will for this, and the kid allegedly managed to convey to zelensky the importance of this line of work foreign and ukrainian content with reference to sources indicated that the sbu under the leadership of the kid was involved in the operation to blow up the crimean bridge and the attack on the military bay in sevastopol, although officially the ukrainian agency does not recognize its involvement in these incidents. in september 21st, journalists of ukrainian pravda filmed the kid at oleg tatarov's birthday celebration , although the same andrii yarmak

claimed in the summer that friendly relations between the tatar kid did not influence the president's decision to appoint a kid to lead the security service of ukraine. well, today in the parliament, 324 deputies voted to appoint a kid to the position of full-fledged head of the sbu , one of them is the fedirvenislavsk people's deputy of ukraine, a servant of the people, a member of the committee on national security, defense and intelligence , joins our broadcast dobry evening i congratulate you, i said everything correctly, you cast your vote for vasyl the kid, well , please tell me, he came to you yesterday on committee and apparently somehow convinced the deputies to vote for him, what did he convince you? well, you know exactly, mr. kid, to convince the members of our committee, mainly the majority of whom, from the first days of the war, in very close coordination and cooperation with the security service of ukraine, with the ministry of internal affairs, with our military, worked on the issue we

did not really need the defense of the state. because we have enough information about the strength of different specifics of the committee's activities. they have our colleagues and we understand that really mr. makyk, during his more than six months as the head of the security service of ukraine, has demonstrated sufficient efficiency, as the president of ukraine really said today, but this efficiency, in addition to what can be said in general terms , is known to us under specific special operations, many of which i am convinced after the war you will know for sure such examples that will be studied by the cadets of the relevant universities who will go to serve in the bodies of the special , well, special service, so mr. kid on my beliefs, a really professional person, a professional person, from the first days of the war, he demonstrated his pro-ukrainian and such a patriotic and fearless position because he was directly in many points of hostilities, including together with the deputies from our committee who

were also actually constantly in the war zone in the first months of the war, and therefore for us, by and large , there was no choice during the discussion of yesterday's committee meeting and today's verkhovna rada seed. you consider vasyl the kid to be dependent on the president's office in a politically dependent way, because i, i will emphasize once again, he is for these 8 months. he has been in the war for 11 months very well, i understand very well , i know, i have seen how he behaves, and i cannot say that he has any dependence on any who is he? here he is a self-sufficient leader who demonstrated this self -sufficiency during the six months of the performance of the powers of the head of the security service . he is as self-sufficient as ivan bakanov. different leaders, and you would have kranov differ from vasyl the kid in almost everything because they are completely different

types, there are psychological portraits and leadership style , and you asked ivan, i apologize to ivan bokanov, you certainly did not ask anything from vasyl the kid, at least yesterday, did you ask about we certainly did not ask him yesterday about his connections with oleg tatarov, nor about his connections with oleg tatarov, and there was no need for that, because i emphasize once again that we perfectly understand, we see with our own eyes how he managed the security service for the past six months and or do you expect that vasyl the kid will investigate the actions of his predecessor ivan bakanov, whom volodymyr zelenskyi, well, the wording was like this, suspended him for a rather serious article due to actions that allegedly led to the death of people, or do you expect any results from the sbu, what ivan bakanov did, well , yesterday, this is the question, here it is the question was raised just yesterday at the committee by our colleagues there with a plumb e-e special re-special procedures regarding the verification of the activities of mr. bakanov

at the end. i think that society will be informed about this when it will be it is necessary because these are stamped inspection materials, they have limited access, e.e. to the questions of your colleagues, who often address him, including me, where is mr. bakanov. yesterday, we also received an answer. he is in the state, that is, but some kind of internal investigation regarding him lasted . but you know. you know, but you can't say what's there. do you not know? look, the members of the committee on national security and defense and intelligence are admitted to all levels of state secrets. that is, we are informed, but due to the specifics of the committee's activities and due to this in the case of the specifics of the activity of the security service, we cannot always talk about it

. how are you? what do you expect from vasyl the kid ? hmm, i don't know. maybe you talked and set him some tasks or voiced your expectations for his work in the near future. for six months or for the next month or two, i don't know. well, you know, now it is very difficult to talk about any concrete landmarks other than victory over our enemy, mr. kid, by the way, yesterday at the committee and in addition, we committee members were informed about those special operations, including those regarding the enemies of our country, the main idea and the main goal of the activity of mr. baby in the position of the head of the security service of ukraine is the transformation of the security service into a truly pure counterintelligence body of a special service that will not have functions that are not typical of yesterday vasyl vasyliovych confirmed once again together with the members of the committee that worked on the draft law on the reform of the security service, that is, one version of the law on the security service, he will definitely support it, because i can personally say