[000:00:00;00] like the battles for stalingrad, they were supposed to end in february, like the battles for stalingrad, although in the ukrainian army there was no freddy mercheva paulus who would capitulate, so it did not work out, but then he came to volgograd and there he spoke to the youth, we will now listen to one of his quotes and then continue full someone is always fighting in the country, and some of them said how boring it is to live in the world when no one fights with russia . our main task is to ensure the preservation of russia, to create the conditions for the progressive development of its strengthening, and this task will certainly be solved, but one of

the components of the work . subscribe, like, comment, people can write their thoughts, there is such a chat. and here , the user writes, there is peace in ukraine, but in ukraine, but it’s good if it’s also russian. i don’t understand the logic of it, that is, it is logical there is a certain chain if that well, if it doesn't work for him, and what kind of peace can there be if she is also russian, but here the question is that ukraine is, in principle, also russian, although zalissya was not russian, if a person is sick, she read the chronicles, then she read something from- the princes who went to kyiv wrote what was for them in rus, i.e. they went to rus and then left rus, kyiv and all the territories that were part of russia were considered rus, by the way, kyiv rus was not kyiv rus, it was simply rus, then the word kyiv rus was invented later already much later, well, but it was just russia on the territory that is russia today, at that time it was not considered russia, and the princes who were there said that they were going to russia and then

leaving russia. that is, it was not russia. well, but god is with him this is the historical memory that putin shows, to which putin appeals, but the question is that historically it is very difficult, because since catherine ii and then many russian figures until the 20th century, when the ukrainian annals were burned, the annals in the vernadskyi library were destroyed years ago history was very easy to write, rewrite and create the history that russia wanted to have for itself, but less so. and i would like to ask you now. so, from the first p oleg p oleg i will ask, do we have 15 minutes left i want us to leave now now to our company the finish line, although this topic is very, very fertile, we can talk for a long time and i am very interested in talking and discussing with you to some extent, and i want to ask in your opinion what is the potential of putin now to achieve something and what is the potential of ukraine ah to endure and to destroy what putin

came with, and well, i will say it like this. and please, i ask you to express your opinion, oleg, please understand , we are discussing a lot of topics at the same time, what potential putin has, unfortunately, he has a sufficiently large intensive, well, about it's clear about the army of people. i mean, how much can you pump up this biology of people, sending them to their deaths and forcing russia to suffer economically because of what, well, in russia, when i lived in russia for a while, i heard such a proverb there, they didn't live well. it's not necessary and they will start, unfortunately, unfortunately, such a trait as long-suffering in russia is, er, in russia, they have accumulated what is called fat for er , zero 2000 years, and therefore to expect to expect rapid changes is not my view, er, considering

the attitude of the population to this war and to the propaganda, what kind of food is it being fed? well, for now, you shouldn't, for now, you have to adjust to a difficult and uh, such a confrontation may be quite long . that's why my interviewer said that russians consider themselves higher than ukrainians, and that's not exactly the case, they don't consider themselves higher by ukrainians they believe that ukrainians did not have any at all, they believe that ukrainians are russians, a part of russians, eh . and there are many problems in this. and this is how the quote you gave about russia in general should be interpreted . at first, only the wife of the varangians was called russian. rus, and the local slavs, it was something else, then they began to call the area

around kyiv rus, but at that time, yes, but over time , the word rus and the russian people spread further and further and even then volodymyr suzdetsky moscow principality they themselves also began to be called russia here. the point is that what time period do we take? i would also like to say that the seizure is not a trial. the russian tradition of seizing the territory and the entire world empire, including the so-called overseas empires, they were formed at the expense of the seizure, the problem is that russia remained e at this time, such an empire, such an empire, which has not disintegrated and which considers it normal that tuva, buryatia, yakutia, kamchatka , and other territories - this is supposedly a normal component of russia and the world is accustomed

to consider this to be the definition of russia, that is, not an empire russia and the russian empire, and actually russia , the state, etc. cannot be said so clearly. that russians call themselves superior because of their ethnic characteristics. the interviewer himself said that every person who has adopted russian culture can consider himself a russian, that is, then the question is that what we consider ethnic origin to be a nation, a people, ethnicity - these are different issues, but if we put it all together, then it becomes difficult to have a conversation, but in general, putin has , unfortunately, putin has resources, including ideological propaganda ones, he is good

cleared the field and there is such an effect as well, like the stockholm syndrome, which you want to consider as the authority of law, the one who captured you is this authority of law, and you need to join it , therefore, you need to understand that, unfortunately, he has these resources, you know, well, reading what i read there from the bolshevik leaders oleg listened to about how russia planned to provoke hitler into europe and then actually use him to take over europe is a contradictory statement that putin, stalin, was preparing this operation in storm that he tried to attack or hit hitler in the back, i don't know. you can discuss this for a long time, i will not only just mention it, but also hitler's alleged attack on the soviet union was his attempt to win with a blitzkrieg, effectively capturing moscow quickly and eliminating the threat from the soviet union well, even if it was so, i am now transferring to the war started by putin before the great invasion, it became unexpected for many representatives of the ukrainian government of the ukrainian

people, also for ours, for the western world , on my impression, the hydra made two mistakes in principle, not that he attacked the soviet union, that he exterminated the jews and that he bombed london, and for the united states of america, for his community, these were key things where they were. if he had not done this , it is not known what would have happened to hitler, but he he made these key mistakes. and he actually lost this war by attacking ukraine. putin unexpectedly , obviously, also planned a blitzkrieg . he did not succeed in this war and continues to exhaustion and i would like to ask olesya in your opinion and what was the key reason that putin decided to do this and how do you assess the potential of russia during this war when in fact more and more people in the world are seeing the light of day and continue to help ukraine, was it putin's fatal mistake , please? well, what happened to our interlocutor

, mr. oleg, is that empires used to be engaged in conquering the territory of different empires, but in modern times, or rather in our time, empires such as i quite a lot of historical states, they are conquering the space economically, intellectually, ideologically, culturally, and russia remained in the previous a-a historical epochs according to its practice and continues to try to continue to conquer the territory precisely by the way of warriors a-a not only in ukraine we see the previous war in migration, that is they remained in the conditional xix century, at the same time we see that the second thesis of the interlocutor, on the contrary, confirms not his position but mine when it comes to the fact that

ukrainians themselves are not recognized as existing. as in us russia this is what it shows when the rise of russia they don't even give us the right, they don't allow us the right to a separate existence they don't allow ukrainians to exist as a separate , separate nation separately we have trying to mean in the state sense as a separate ethnos the right to a separate language this and testifies to the extermination of the russians above all others. they do not allow even us, i do not want to give us the right to a separate existence. this is the neo-nazi ideology that they are superior to everyone, close to the extermination of others, or assimilation, and this is the difference from negative

why do neo-nazism groups allow the right to assimilation, in contrast to the ideology of the nsdp. that is, there is only physical extermination, and here it is worldview displacement, that is, if you deny your right to exist as ukrainians and recognize yourself as russians, then you have the right to exist and continue to exist. and here it is your question is about the potential. unfortunately, the potential is also inside the country. i watched it yesterday or the day before yesterday. well, a very unpleasant video about who are the kherson traitors. vow who are going to vote for this pseudo-referendum for the accession of kherson oblast and kherson to russia, and these are specific local residents, ukrainians for

world-view citizenship. maybe they are already russians, but they belong to the ukrainian nation. let me remind you that the nation is primarily citizenship, that is, they are citizens of the ukrainian state who are ready to give up their own identity, i.e. to become ready to become russians putin, and here again, there is an absolute analogy with neo-nazism of nazi practice, let me remind you how slovakia was divided, is putin speaking about the russian-speaking population, and hitler talks about the german-speaking population, about ethnic germans, and let me remind you that the so-called sudeten germans on the territory of the czech republic, not only there, in fact, on the territory of the sudetenland , they were never germans, they did not belong to the german state, they did not belong to the austro-hungarian state, that is, they

in fact, they were to the austrians, but the fact there is in german , and one of the options, because in german , too. the language is dialectical enough , and the most important thing is the worldview, that is, agreeing to recognize yourself as germans and it was letters were used, but now putin uses the same technologies, and it is extremely important, because of the spread of the russian language, this is also one of these factors , to reach people of uncertain ethnicity. donetsk luhansk crimea and you see even in the territory of kupyansk or er or kherson a-a , that is, the struggle is for consciousness, for worldview , and this is a very difficult struggle in our country, we are literally

talking about educational activities on the part of ukrainian forces in contrast to the company is a terribly strong company with money and resources that comes from the side of the russian media space and in this plan to cut off all opportunities for the spread of the russian ideology, it is not the nazi ideological measure around the world from rush there and starting and ending with songs and cultural manifestations, it is extremely important , that is, it turned out to ukraine that the so-called russian culture does not spread throughout the world, because it also contains the danger of the spread of the balancing road of the russian world. i will ask such a question and i would very much like to ask you to give us a brief answer in literally two minutes. well, 30 seconds each, and what do ukrainians call this word that ukrainians should oppose to this racism , neo-nazism, fascism , how

did they not call it this phenomenon? after all, the ukrainian state, ukrainians should oppose the armed forces, because if there is no armed forces and if there is no help from our partners and allies at this time, then there will be nothing else, because the second is they have, they have, we have oppose well, i don't know my character , my willingness to try. and thirdly, in my opinion, it is very important to have a clear understanding of what is happening, a clear terminological awareness of what is what and what is not what hitler was also sharp, first of all , that is why it is also possible to argue to what extent austrians are a genius, aren't they germans , children are shot, you know and he said that austrians are the smartest people in the world because they managed to convince the whole world that mozart was austrians and terminians hmm i know

i remembered how in joan rowling's novel about harry potter, everyone was afraid to call voldemort by name. and when they called him by name, harry potter did it, and here it is very important that ukrainians should also call this enemy in the name with all its signs they are not afraid of this p oles very briefly if you tell me what you oppose to this phenomenon what can be called racism after tennis neo-nazism what has come to russia today is safe armed resistance is safe and resistance is all education and so and above the first and on the second we have a place to work because you see the world is only gradually increasing both economic and military aid to ukraine, that is, there is still work to be done , and inside ukraine there is a week to work on. asserted and asserted that we need posture and development, that is, we

must learn to compete with the successful nations of the world for the happy nations of the world. yes, russia wants to take away from us now the right to happiness for every ukrainian and every ukrainian woman. and we instead, in opposition to russia, we need to go not only to the strengthening of the ukrainian state , but also to the right to happiness for every ukrainian and every ukrainian woman . so, the ukrainian dream is a ukrainian idea , the right to happiness for every ukrainian and every ukrainian woman, but let's start with the destruction of the misery that i am today is russia for us, thank you very much, easily, dorin. he is a writer and publicist . thank you, mr. ours, for joining us and thank you for your comments. we will continue, because here it is really worth calling the enemy by name, it is worth talking about his characteristics, it is worth understanding how to fight him, it is worth understanding what he is, because living until the 21st or 22nd year, many ukrainians in principle did not know what russia was for it was strange to many that they were not killing people, we didn't think the boys came, well, that is, they are not

boys, they are bloody killers with the genetic code of killers , starting there from some 15th century ago, of course, you have to call the enemy by name and we will do it. this was the program of the world view of vasyl zimi subscribe to social networks in telegram youtube twitter instagram facebook everywhere you can support and spread see this week in the program collaborators of traitors in white coats which of the doctors passed mariupol, but he was shockingly active in overlapping and how to get a leadership position in the occupiers for a lie, a mortar installation is just a bullet cures around the garden program collaborators and i'm olena kononenko first do no harm - says the latin maxim that is the main commandment of medical ethics and this principle has been working for thousands of years even now in the conditions of the war with russia it is precisely because of ethics that it is not so easy to bring to justice the collaborators

of doctors, and indeed they simply did not want to harm those who were only saving lives from real state traitors, let's try to figure it out today in ukraine , the doctors and medical workers who remained will not be considered traitors in the temporarily occupied territory, this is the official position of the ministry of health. as viktor lyashko stated , providing medical care, working in a health care facility is not collaborationism work in a hospital in the territory and russia is trying to establish an occupation regime is not cooperation with the aggressor and it will not be considered a crime there in the near future we will release them and de-occupy them and everything will return to the way it was before february 24, the ministry of health care did not appear immediately, it was coordinated with the security forces and the security service of ukraine, therefore, if the occupiers force doctors to provide care to the sick, it is

a matter of survival, not cooperation, and no one has canceled the human fact, there are those doctors who themselves took the initiative headed fake health care departments supported the occupiers and discredited the armed forces of ukraine these are the medical workers who are real collaborators and state traitors and sooner or later they will be punished since the beginning of the russian aggression a year ago mariupol and its residents and with them the defenders were one of the first to experience the horrors of the occupation on the front lines of the bloody war, together with courageous military personnel, were representatives of civilian professions, those who repaired broken communications under enemy fire and saving their lives, the burden of taluk on them every day from materials based on real stories of doctors who escaped from hell with blood in their veins, and as it turned out , there were also those medical workers in mariupol who

helped the occupiers turn a flourishing ukrainian city into a home, traitors who , guided by personal interests, left working for the enemy is hanna olhov , a doctor from the mariupol perinatal center , last spring she gave an interview to propaganda media talking about various atrocities of azov, she is a woman she called the head of the maternity hospital a saleswoman, she claimed that the maternity hospital housed the base of the azov regiment . in this way , olkhovska tried to justify the bloody bombing of the perinatal center in march. and then for the inpatient of one of the departments, as her colleagues and patients say , a scumbag of soviet hardening, everything that this traitor

says in the video is also an absolute lie because she was not even present in the center during the events that she paints in all colors of falsehood as soon as it was possible to justify this atrocity, as a result of which two dozen people were injured and three died, among them a woman in labor and a newborn child, but from all villages, olhovska defended the war criminals and fueled the russian propaganda machine with fakes, later relying on such testimonies of collaborators , the russian government, the so-called diplomacy and propagandists will spread fictions about nationalists about tom and if not the war criminals tried to hide the truth, the world did find out about the children's hospital, what they threatened the russian federation there, there were small benders, pregnant women played shooting in rostov, someone in the maternity hospital humiliated the russian language, what was

the de-nazification of the hospital, another collaborator from the cohort of mariupol doctors, olena ozon so- called the head of the mariupol medical college, who independently switched to the side of the occupiers two years ago, during the admissions campaign, the woman chirped sweetly in ukrainian invited applicants to enter the institution and talked about the development of ukraine. the 90-year history of our educational institution is connected with the history of the development of our native mariupol and our ukraine, and along the way there were more than tens of thousands of people who brought glory to our college and just rushed to mariupol. took the side of the occupiers and began to glorify the aggressor country after the occupation, she undertook the restart of the medical college under the russian brand, established communication

with the parents of the students, offered to abandon continue studying in ukraine and get a russian diploma, as it became known in 2014. this traitor was one of the organizers of the pseudo-referendum in mariupol after the liberation of the city from the occupiers in the zones. years ago, unfortunately, we saw how it happens. and this is svitlana slabinova , a cardiologist at the fourth mariupol hospital . she spread lies about ukrainians for the sake of the russian propaganda machine here are military excerpts with her participation from a tv program that aired on a russian tv channel, a star belonging to the ministry of defense of the aggressor country, cardiologist svitlana slapinova, occasionally anna came out of the basement, and saw with her own eyes how a ukrainian tank

fired near the corps of the hospital and then hid behind them for our girl, they supported and they asked, rather, they said, uh , what are you doing, you lived in a family, lived here, a woman had children, and the answer was shocking. the director of the mariupol emergency hospital, serhiy orlandskyi, has traitors. he has been the head of this institution for many years . the hospital used to be in a bad condition, but since 2014 the authorities have invested a lot of money in its development. the flag of the european union, his joy knows no bounds for the medical facility, new equipment was purchased , quality repairs were made there, and

a modern cardio center was opened on its base for the first time in mariupol began to perform complex operations on the heart, and the cardiologist serhiy orlanskyi was supposedly happy because he finally got the opportunity to work as he had always dreamed, and as it turned out, his dreams were about something completely different when last year a rash doctor invaded mariupol. he began to work for the enemy and in every possible way ukrainian military on propaganda tv channels, militants from azov gangs open fire specially on civilians' apartment and on the fifth, too, they shot in the apartment, we clearly know where the etymins were flying from we saw what here, from the body, a mobile mortar installation from azov and they were shooting everywhere in the garden to the hospital, the militants entered the hospital but quickly left, this escape was shameful, they just pulled out mattresses from the pickets and took them with them, we can ignore what such humiliation and betrayal the orlandian left because of what he wanted

at any cost to stay working in mariupol on new high-quality equipment , previously the most popular operation here , heart stenting, was performed free of charge as part of the medical guarantee program, now they say that serhii orlanskyi bereza is 250,000 russian rubles, but hardly any patients. he has a lot of operations there without light, water and heat. so in his free time in orland, many collaborators go to moscow. there in the swamps , he mastered a new level of betrayal . by heart, the seller took a picture with tetyana goyoka, the deputy head of the government of the russian federation, if it were not there, and all these actions of the orlandian are a crime , the responsibility for collaborationism and

treason is from 8 to 15 years or even life imprisonment and for all mariupol traitors who agreed to work for the kremlin, surrendered the positions of our military and were engaged in discrediting the armed forces, sooner or later retribution awaits, no matter how painful it may be, because their shameful activity has nothing to do with medical duty. at the same time, low bow to those medical workers who saved the residents of mariupol and our military and did not agree to work for the enemy of anya for anya's money for flags, their published diaries and memories of early churches again and again glory to those heroic doctors who gave their lives to save others while working under enemy bullets, they were collaborators. and i am olena kononenko . in our next programs, we will talk about collaborating doctors from other regions . believe me, there were many of them not only in mariupol

. if you want to talk about kremlin sellers, write to us at this e-mail address or simply on facebook, let's put them all together on the trail of the russian ship , we'll see it in a week on the air of express , art in the country of war, a series of documentaries, each of which will tell about one of of ukrainian artists, artists who have not left abroad and continue their creative path . in ukraine, it seems that history just entered now, yes, at some such moment , where everything just came together in a linear way, so what happened there that we remember then it was a kind of drag, but now it seems that it is all in one moment and we see that everything is repeating itself, but how the place and

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