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[000:00:00;00] will not suffer from the threat of starvation, this is a very important point in your opinion as a whole, will the russians manage to develop uh in their advance in the donbass, we see their tactics , they accumulate artillery, they invest wave after wave and little by little there 100 m a week by 200 m per week, but they are advancing that if, in principle, they are satisfied with these rates of advancement and they are ready to continue advancing in such and such a way in order to reach the borders of the donetsk region, for example, in the summer or autumn of this year, what can we oppose to this? well, we can oppose a lot of things. that's why what they give us is given to the whole civilized world. it's clear why he gives because, after all, these are territories that
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provide bread for the whole world, and there is an effort to destroy it, which threatens the security of the whole world, not only in this is one of the reasons why we are being helped by ukraine. we see that russia once had the opportunity to attack all sides of ukraine . now it has 1-2 directions of attack and has a very small amount of armed equipment, and the only thing it has is a large human resource on to which it actually acts and to which it leaves let's see how much she can mobilize now, how many horses. well, we see that in ukraine they don't leave each other, they give us help and this help. it has a different character and it's not manpower that needs to be done. here's how the russians act, it's a technique in basically, let's actually say that
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from our side equipment from the russian side, it's the meat itself. well, it lost so much, ours don't bear such losses because we, well, they want to take the destroyed salon, take it if you 're going to do it there. oh, it will be quite expedient for ours to be defeated by our troops and actually ours are simply destroying the russian army, this is a different position, and russia is trying to capture some populated areas there where there is nothing , which it will even restore, this is the situation. counter-intelligence of the city of zno and the veteri was with us. well, we are moving on. and then we will talk about the help of germany, about the fact that switzerland may lift the ban on the supply of weapons to ukraine. about what is happening now they are discussing a possible visit of volodymyr zelenskyi to the european union. and actually, in connection
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with this, a small scandal happened serhiy , a conscientious german political scientist , is in touch with us , serhii. good morning. in brussels, it is the leaders of the european union themselves, and these are the ones who are being accused at a high level . who leaked information about a possible visit , this literally happened within two days of zelenskyi - this is a question, in particular, for security, how do you comment on this, what does this mean for this scandal well, to be honest, i don’t see any personal scandal here, the fact that this information was leaked, that is, of course it’s unpleasant, but when such visits are wide, a lot of people know about them, and not only the embassy or
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some official authorities know about it there and the security service and even i think that there are some logistics companies that are preparing it there in terms of transportation and everything if they understand if it will be and therefore if it is not surprising that some kind of loss of control over this information happened that is it's like that happens and of course it's unpleasant, but i don't think we'll say that from the point of view of real security, uh, it can add some significant risks, that is, of course, it increases the risk , but i don't think that it can add significant risks, because, well, the russians are those who they want to harm me there. i think that they are guided by other sources of information than what appears in e-e snakes than only what appears in the mass media and in the public passport e-e p sergiu, but actually in connection with the fact that in
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ukraine a full-scale invasion of e-e whether in the european union or in the countries of the european union when there are such and such events taking place. where are the leaders of the countries coming? how have security measures changed regarding the organization of such and such events? well, you know, very differently , because we don't know what to say, so certain , even public, such discussions regarding ukraine they now need additional security measures, if we can expect that they are on themselves, it is as if they are gaining some unwanted weight from the point of view of people who do not want to disturb them, we know that even at demonstrations now everything looks completely different and it is necessary let's even tell a person if there is some ukrainian where it is, then there will be significantly
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more policemen between, let's say there two years ago well, that's why, in principle, you know, i think that europe still has to go through these cabins. some kind of reassessment of security issues ago that europe lived for a very long time in a situation when security was free and when, in principle, there were no challenges because there were, of course , there were some spots there in the 70s, this is due to terrorism there in germany, the russian federation, then there was an outbreak of urban terrorism there that's all one thing if it weren't for the fact that this is happening at the level of a state of a large power, unfortunately, it has enough resources and quite a few , let's say, moral restrictions of some kind or no moral restrictions at all in order to
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limit its interventions in foreign security and, unfortunately, in europe, you know all these situations there with the murder of litvinenko in london and the attempted murder of violinists in britain, it was the use of chemical weapons , in fact the territory of nato countries, they were ignored in berlin, only 300 were killed m from the office of the slippers merkel was killed does not mean a chechen human rights defender by an agent of russian intelligence oh, this was all ignored and in principle now it is just beginning to reassess these shortcomings of the leadership that are generally in the mood in germany , in particular, regarding such an issue. this is the russian narrative, which is now very much is spreading that sooner or later the war in ukraine must end and end in some part of the territory according to the korean scenario
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, in particular well, i see, the comment was made by the former german ambassador, now the deputy minister of foreign affairs andriy melnyk is asked by a journalist about what is going on with the peace talks. are you already preparing for some kind of compromise? well, to mr. melnyk's credit , he replied that it takes two to dance and unfortunately, we don't see any movement towards of peace from the russian side, and therefore these and such peace negotiations are meaningless . this is the answer of mr. melnyk that he said . nevertheless, it certainly indicates that such questions are often asked in german society, or do germans really think that already there are reasons for ukraine somewhere to look for some kind of compromise in exchange for its territory, you know. this is a constant discussion that takes place in german society. i
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also actively participate in it and try to explain to many that, unfortunately, in the situation of war between russia and ukraine, peace does not simply mean the banal end of hostilities, and if the hostilities end and there will be no shooting , this does not mean that we will come, that is, it means that torture, kidnapping , rape, murder and other things are being carried out on the territory of occupied russia. ukrainian culture, whether ukrainian or not, monuments of architecture, destroyed ukrainian books, education of ukrainian children in russian kindergartens, preparing them for war and other things. that is, it is also right there, if , relatively speaking, the nazis captured europe and won the second world war, then it would be peace it would be a concentration camp from er, you know, under the er atlantic to the urals, and
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it simply could not be called peace well, unfortunately, there are not many in germany who understands well, let's say so, of course there are people who understand but the most and it has one alone you know one such simple factor, namely germany as a society has no experience of war for its freedom, the two wars that germany waged in the 20th century were aggressive wars, and there is no need to talk about the second world war at all. world scale, that's why for the germans there, if you are there in the 44th, in the fifth year, some vinnytsia boy means with a weapon, then of course the best thing you can do is to throw away these weapons and wait for the americans to come
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so he will give you democrats and they don't understand what it is to be, let's say, to be a warsaw ghetto jew who fights against the ussr - that's also for whom to throw down your arms, it means to be guaranteed to die together with your family, and while he has weapons in his hands and more there is hope, that is, a german cannot imagine himself in the place of this jewish boy or a ukrainian boy. so, i am trying to somehow explain this as well. the situation is quite complicated now. some 43%, if i am not mistaken in the survey system, say that in ukraine it is necessary to agree to compromises, to give part of the territory in exchange for customs , that is, there is a beacon of light here, firstly, russia allegedly stopped, and secondly, allegedly , there would be a little less than 50% of the occupied territories there, too. 47 seems to say that ukraine does not need to agree not to those and it is necessary to liberate the entire territory , i.e. the same as it was there a month ago before the tanks
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when in fact it is 50 to 50 and here the great responsibility lies with the expert community to explain why this the idea is the russian idea of ​​supposed peace in exchange for territories, why is it easter and it's a trap and uh well, in principle, as it were , a lot depends on the ukrainian and embassy and on the state authorities, what is to be explained at the international level on international platforms, what does this so-called peace in the occupied territories mean? well, i think that this matter is being done from the lunch directions and i think that fortunately , fortunately , not much depends on this survey in germany, because in principle, in principle, at the government level, there is an understanding that in ukraine it is necessary to help society in german
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language determined that german is the word of the year for germany. this is the invende website. this word was spoken by the now famous and chancellor schultz . what does this word mean for the ukrainian-speaking audience, and why is it and how is it being implemented now? it can be translated as an epochal change, like a change, just a change of eras, but this is also the spring speech of the holocaust - this is when he announced that germany was revising its views on foreign security policy. well, let's say that it is ready to send weapons to ukraine . germany had not sent weapons to ukraine until that moment. weapons in the areas where the war will go, that is, in the countries or in some parts of these countries. so they believed that if we send weapons, we increase the level of violence, this should be avoided universally and the sinap, that is, a large-scale russian attack on ukraine was
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adopted the decision that it is necessary to help in ukraine, that is, this was this request for changes. but i think that here there were too many rhetoricians and such, you know, as they say in germany, it means hot air than systems and some, well, just the content of some real content, because we remember that the speech was there sometime in april, and the first artillery arrived only in the summer , and they were silent about tanks until the last moment, and only now have they agreed , not even a single leopard. i read that they promise to deliver the first leopard 2, not only units , during march, and a decision has been made to supply ukraine
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with almost 180 e leopards. for the first time, this is an older , older version of the tank there from the 70s , that is, it is also needed. but there are so many excellent ones modern as it is, that is, from the speech to the e-e to the actual supplies, a year has passed and the supplies have not yet gained strength , which is why it is necessary to talk about the fact that we have changed and made a neat change, it is easy and it gives a political dividend because it is beautiful, this is a picture all the changes talk about it, but really help with this in scholz, in scholz, this is a problem . germany, because of the war, a large-scale invasion and their observation, so the minister of defense said
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that the world would be better without putin, and the observation, in particular , of such a journalist as oksana ivantsiv. now in germany, she writes about her observations of the germans, that is, the germans who are not in power, they cannot imagine the world without a great russia , and moreover, they do not even imagine that it is possible that russia will not win. how, that is, what the german authorities say about russia, that is, russia is possible without putin. but is it possible for them to have a smaller russia, well, this is an absolutely key question because er, i also don’t see how russia without putin can be a more er dangerous or more comfortable russia for its neighbors , we know that in russia, er, russia does not depend on one person and of course it is an authoritarian authoritarian country, but its
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the problem lies in the fact that we know from history that this is not a matter of one person, if it depended on one person, then we know how much was on that person, that gorbachev will come and change everything , they ended it all with a murder in vilnius, the raising of diamonds in baku e-e in tbilisi and other cities then it means there was hope to hope for eh, it started already in 92, otherwise, moldova, then abkhazia, then chechnya, then the participation of the russian army, this state, eh, then eh , it means everything else we remember how he was spoken by the bundestag in 2000, in 2000, how it was received, it means an absolute ovation, and there were times when such a young president, who understands europe
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, finally came to power, and if you look first putin's speeches on the fact that he gave an interview, he speaks simply, allegedly, allegedly simply . he is, you know, a student of western political cargo. he speaks about the need for freedom of speech. freedom means demonstrations that states must be studied and so on. those also remember this. all early putin yes, that is, that is, here you know how a bear is a fan of iphones and took selfies at the table with jobs. well , read his telegrad, it does not depend on the person, unfortunately, and even if an absolutely good good person comes, the system and even if its they will find it somewhere, yes, the system is much stronger, the system depends on moscow's complete control over the region, the system is built on the colonial exploitation of the region, the system is built, it's a pity that most ukrainians have definitely understood it, but it's a pity that
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the germans don't understand it. thank you, mr. serhiy. people judge by themselves and do not always understand how different the situation can be in another country , how it can be with other practices and institutions. that's why i think. to be honest, the system has such negative selection elements that if you, well, you can do better, one of the main spies is in kg b in germany, well, you 're hardly a good person. well, imagine, you don't want to be a spy in germany, in the soviet union, in the kgb, standing in the kgb, do you want to be in the soviet union at all, a good person says yes, yes, i want to be in the kgb , i want to be a house, i'm a good person well, it's hardly
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just a road accident about by the way, why are we we started let's continue the thesis, zelenskyi will arrive in great britain today, it has already been confirmed, friends of unian are writing about it, and he will meet with the prime minister of the rishi country and the ukrainian military, who are undergoing training in great britain -e of the world in europe and he is heading to brussels tomorrow he will be at the summit well, that's good , another one of the registers and fursa investment banker mr. serhiy appears on our metal. good morning mr. serhiy, we will surely start with what the last week has been bubbling, if not only the ukrainian facebook, with the resignation and then not with the resignation of you, and maybe with a discussion, maybe then with the resignation of the minister of defense of ukraine serhiy reznikov, people who fight
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corruption say what they say what and what else is the war in our country, if a mistake has been made, be please, retire, people who, well, they don't like corruption very much either, but they say that we have a war, they say that it's not time to listen to such things . what do you think, where is the truth, look at the truth. i don't know where the truth is. to tell the truth, uh to me it is difficult to say here because on the one hand i understand that even during the war it is necessary to fight corruption because functionaries are the most friends of putin, in fact if we see on e-e who becomes a kolobrazhalist and through whom russia influences, then it is always corruption, i will tell you whether to fight on the other hand, i would not like the resignation of mr. tsarykov now, because it took too many risks and led to actually our support from the west main - this is because all
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the leading smiths would then write that the minister of defense of ukraine was dismissed due to corruption this means that the minister of defense is corrupt, this means that it is dangerous to give armed forces to ukraine because there is corruption, and this means that western politicians who work are corrupt, and this influenced the further actions of these same western politicians, so i did not like it now, if he were to be released, how about me? now the most people accuse mr. rysnik of what he really is about her, this is very bad communication after the scandal with the procurement of the ministry of defense where there was corruption , in fact, you and i all knew a month ago and six months ago that there was corruption, these facts
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came out and the minister communicated very poorly , he would have threatened the journalist for some reason with an investigation by the sbu and this is his fact, this was his mistake. i am not enough if it was mr. reznikov who was involved in corruption. yes, he should be fired without question, but since he simply failed to communicate due to corruption in his department, how about me now personally this is not enough reason for his release, considering the role he played during the war, by the way. after that, all those different unacceptable letters and alphabets that the president and this minister are different. he finally said and that is, he said that you know but we were wrong, we do now the conclusions. thank you for the criticism. well, i would not have said that in this story . what, for example, when i threatened journalists , i was wrong, and i apologize for that . i would like to hear it from pesnikov, too, but you know, there is another point here, people who
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they say about what let's change everyone uh, regardless of the face and so on and so on, there is a question here. the second eh, the spokesperson is a person, too, with some kind of ground, there are also many bright sides, but we absolutely do not understand or we can understand who can take his place, but where is the guarantee that this person is more competent, for example, and again, i agree with those people who say that a minister is not a hired manager . it is very wrong to think that a minister is a political figure which carries which has political certain guarantees, too. see well, first of all, and again, if we said about everyone who will come after him , we don’t need to be fired. we could never fire even more than that. that’s not the reason. the spokesman himself is not connected with specific corruption transactions, there is no evidence that these items
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come directly to him if he were in the concessionaire. we exchange shilo for some kind of soap and the question is, as someone very well said, of the nine deputies, half of them were involved in all sorts of things and now left , or at least suspect that they are unmarried , that's why they left . how many people was appointed by reznikov himself, this is, for example, a key question of how management is done in the state, and you know the answer to this question that in fact these people are brought by the fact that it is not snowing, and in that matter, what if the people of tereznikov are now will not change anything. that is, we will lose something very important, but we will not gain anything, because it is obvious that this corruption was covered up by other people who are much more influential than the fallen spokesman and the dismissal
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of mr. reznikov will not change anything. during the war, i would say that he should be fired so that it will be a lesson for other officials so that they know that corruption cannot be practiced, but in my opinion , right now, during the war, his role is much more important than these lessons that can harm shouldn't the minister learn something else, and to be honest, we have much more important ministers who should have been fired long ago for corruption and plagiarism and who even play a significant role during the movement well, but for now there will be no resignations, as i wrote there maryana bezugla eh that's so far this week somehow she wrote like that eh doesn't that mean that then how will mr. reznikov's next conversation regarding weapons with our partners take place, or will they not send him to resign after that? see if
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if this was the last conversation between mr. reznikov and his partner, they could talk about something rudely, but now it is a permanent process and it is permanent work that happens not only once a month when rammstein meets. and so on, that's why it's important to stick to a specific date. i think that's not the case here . sergiu of the call week, i risked giving such a forecast in the studio . mr. kobolev's case and does not support the accusations of the anti-corruption prosecutor's office and the detectives of nabu , and he came true, is this kobolev's case in general, is he or he important? what does he mean? they also watch tv where populists come out and tell whether large salaries are evil and large bonuses are evil, unfortunately they are also people, but also someone shows that the anti-corruption structure is exactly how the system
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works and the system is not only that which should punish but which is supposed to be a safeguard, that is, the anti-corruption court, there should be no blacksmith in the orders to satisfy the requests. they should understand the fact that the competition came openly, honestly and transparently , according to the anti-corruption court. therefore, that mistake, in my opinion, was a mistake on the part of the detectives there and on the part of the prosecutor who signed this submission, that mistake was corrected at the stage of normal work and there are anti-corruption institutes that are blooming, they worked normally and mistakes are normal this is natural. yes, and any system has errors, and any court, both american and british, very often tells me that you are the prosecutor's office, well done, but we do not support your accusation, a person must be free , a person cannot be seen, so i think that this is a decision
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the anti-corruption court is shown in reality. well, how important it is to build a system to fight corruption and why our partners constantly insist on the systematic nature of this work and on the construction of institutions, not to run after specific people trying to burn them somewhere on the gallows, namely to build infrastructure anti-corruption so that we have confidence in him and that it works . thank you, mr. serhiy serhiy fursa, the institutional banker was on our air. won a billion dollars in russia and received several million dollars in prizes for it and imagine that it was simply a terrible corrupt activity. and he was given this prize not by him, but by the board on which he had no influence because the reform was carried out yes, and which consisted of more than half of foreign managers and they decided that kobolev actually deserves
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such an award to become a rich official person for those good things for the work he did for ukraine, well, somehow they still don't like us in ukraine there are many people who earn money for the country, including one, i would steal a billion but at least i wouldn't admit it this is a normal person, at least later i would have her from the golden ones, you know those old-fashioned plates, er, this kyrylo tymoshenko is, by the way , there was no mention of him for a long time it was all good to hear they allocated a few more than 100 million uah and he is on production. so everything will be fine . you will pass everything with him so that he will still put on those golden heifers. he will be fine with all this, friends . thank you for staying with us. thank you for conducting discussions under our broadcast here. all kinds of different different topics and some topics please of course thank you for watching espresso marton is still going on with us one more one with andrii seychuk one more hour

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