[000:00:00;00] mark denys mayer, senator of the federal parliament of the kingdom of belgium, as well as eurovision deputies from poland and pokramon viologist in germany. federations on the territory of ukraine. finding partners is the main thing. we have the opportunity to convey to our neighbors the messenger that ukraine has changed. ukrainians have changed

. of this victory and it depends only on the world community , how will we pay ms. lyudmila well, we are talking now in this studio in particular and about certain staff rotations , they did not miss a lot of things like your visas and colleagues from europe in particular reacting to possible news do they know in general, about cases of some kind of unfair use of financial resources for the reconstruction of communities in the sumy region, in particular, but this topic was not voiced by our partners and friends in the desert , this topic was not raised. the basis of the ukrainian e-e state as ukrainian state-building well, finally, ms. lyudmylo, there will be

some direct investments or auxiliary grants for certain communities, in particular for yours, and it is open , ready to help, and it is already helping us , and humanitarian aid in the form of food products that came on the territory of ukraine , both for the population suffering from weapons of aggression and for internally displaced persons - these are generators, and today we discussed the problems of each territory , for example, my territory as such and today under fire, but we are looking for donors and partners to finance a strategic surgical department for us, as well as the restoration of our goals

of kindergartens , so i am sure that cooperation. studios dmytro razumkov people's deputy of ukraine their chairman of the verkhovna rada at 19:21 we return to our conversation and to the analysis of difficult, so to speak, schedules in our domestic political the situation, not dmytro's, the restructuring of the government will most likely not happen because there were throw-ins of different plans. i don't know how to treat them believe it or not believe it well, because there were even names of a number of figures, vice prime ministers , ministers and so on, i think that there will be further rotations -e but eh, a complete complete reboot will not happen in the near future, but a reboot by ministries. i think that it will be possible and by the ministry of economy, it will expand again in us, some kind of ping-pong, who will we

increase it, then narrow it, then withdraw it separately the ministry of agrarian policy now wants to shove it back again, precisely to shove it, because today, yes, so that it is a good question, but i think that even those who propose to do it today cannot answer it, and hmm, the same question about the ministry of energy, the same question for the ministry of education, strategic issues. well, there are many issues that are on the agenda today, but when it will happen is difficult to say . again, it should happen only when an adequate candidate appears for that or another position. and will she appear? well, this is a good question, which is difficult to answer today, or rather, that is why these are unreasonable approaches, but we will continue to see me alone in general, so

it is a little surprising, in general, the approach when we appoint a new person to some position and somewhat forget about the achievements or in a negative sense let's say the legacy of the predecessor, we have a new head of the security service of ukraine where the predecessor is a good question the president, well, in fact, there was a little bit of not about the state - you remember that it was about the council and i wanted to hear the answers or it was slander and the tank was absolutely decent and effectively performed its functions or it was not slander then for

it must be answered, you know the situation surrounding the head of the kharkiv er regional security service of ukraine, who , to put it mildly trip to kharkiv this is it was february 9-10, 2022, that is, two weeks before the war, 2 weeks. instead of preparing the region for defense, if you believe that they knew everything, i doubt it very much, but instead of preparing region to prepare personnel personnel of the security service of ukraine in the kharkiv region before a possible invasion was engaged in going around and turning off the lights for us in e-e press centers so that we could not hold a press conference well, we are together but this is a fact this is a fact what was the security service doing well actually

the head of the security service and many such examples can be given. therefore, we need to find out here if we return to the ministry of defense or the minister or deputies, then what is ours or even the office of the president well, what is our approach if a person is suspected of corruption, he should be released wait if this is an institute reputation begins to work from the application for dismissal, it cannot be saved and it is about reputation, but the question is different if the person is innocent, well, theoretically , we assume that we have a white fluffy uh no no no no tainted deputy of the president's office and why are you dismissing him if he is good? show that he is good, efficient, decent, he did not steal. let him continue to work in the same way with the ministry of defense . the deputies, at the same time, the deputy and the director of the departments wrote statements if they did not steal, then they should be kept. everything is fine, the more

they said about it at the specialized committee of the verkhovna rada, the minister said about it. and if they are guilty , then they should not be released, but sent to wherever ukrainian legislation provides for prison, and when the minister says no, everything is fine, we buy eggs by the kilogram , and a week later, the deputy is detained, the director of the department is detained , they find a million dollars in one of them, which was before the time interval, we are only seeing it now, and it happened at the end of the summer, yes, then. well, there is a question well, someone should bear responsibility for this , including reputational responsibility. well, we understand that the minister of defense appoints the president , the verkhovna rada appoints formally, but nominates the president. that is, it would be up to the president. i am not saying that the president mixed in corruption stories, but it hits the president and hits the president hits the state

and tomorrow when you come to the same rammstein you will be told wait you have corruption and there is already enough of our international partners and not so many partners who will convince us that we should not give anything to ukraine because they are stealing something again. we must be so transparent. how transparent are we in the information sterile in the information anti-corruption perception that well, we simply cannot afford such things. someone's reputation from the officials, this issue is related to the future state, the defense capability of the state, but no one thinks about it, well, they cleaned it up and ran on, it doesn't work like that for the internationalists, as far as i know , the internationalists do not applaud us, saying that this one was fired, that one was fired, they ask the same question

the question i ask is, if they stole, they should not be released. we must prove their guilt and send them to prison, not as they say . some of my colleagues are there. spring will come. we will plant again. we are already waiting for the third spring there, but it does not depend on the parliament, the parliament still when i was the chairman of the verkhovna rada, today you adopted a sufficient number of laws according to which you can send a corrupt official and an enemy to prison, but this does not happen, apparently , there is still a lack of will, including political will. well, here, from the other side, you know the key story of any powerful teams to do it so that her baby doesn't spill out with the water, you understand. here, too, i understand why there is such a system of trying to balance what they can afford and what they can't afford some civilized dialogue, for example, between the government and the opposition, although formally there is no opposition as such. yes, but i already have one, and this is a problem. and this

is a problem created by the government, because we all remember february 24 . after that, when there really was no politics in the parliament and not only in the parliament and in society , there was basically no such thing, the parliament accepted everything and there were big discussions before the meeting of the verkhovna rada, but the meetings passed very quickly and everything was adopted almost by consensus because accepted the issue of defense capability, the issue of laws related to the provision of internally displaced persons, business support and other things that were not there. sorry for the slang of the skinner , when he started to appear, all the factions and groups started talking. well, they can , including our ob' unity, smart politics took the position that there are things that we definitely support and that we vote for and there are things that well , they are just trying to tear it apart until it

is shown on tv, while we have a war, people are busy surviving and protecting the homeland well, let’s dust something for ourselves somewhere. yes, and since what is happening, for example, with privatization, well, what kind of privatization is it today ? well, go out and ask people if the state has funds to buy something, well, people are not stupid either, they understand that a big american investor will not come or a european, honest, white and ready to invest in a state in which there is a war in which it is clear whether a russian missile will fly there tomorrow or not , well, this will not happen, it is necessary to understand it, it looks good in words, but on the other hand, on the other hand, the same authors introduce bills that allow property to be taken away

, and the international investor sits and thinks, wait, i'll buy something from them now, and tomorrow they'll take it from me. the last one that is in the state, and with the other one, we are also scaring you to buy it from us . and then we will somehow take it from you, it does not work like that. changes to the tax legislation should take place no earlier than six months before they start to take effect . who is looking at it today? they adopted it tomorrow on the run . the war is difficult, not the lack of electricity, the relocation, the loss of jobs, the loss of specialists who went abroad, the lack of working capital, many other things that are hitting ukrainian business today, and instead of

doing everything for this business to help now on the one hand, but only now they signed the law on the removal of preferential taxation for the gambling business , and the whole parliament fought over it, well, for a month and four, or five, and for the e-e business now they want e-e for the whole business they want to remove the e- preferential taxation i do not understand at all, well, people, some people's deputies have a memory like a fish 's, you know three, three seconds, if you are representatives of the monomajority, well, you should support the president correctly. well, if there is logic, then i would like to remind you that the president of his time came out and said that these preferential conditions are introduced for the entire duration of the war, at least plus one year, and when you remove it today, you either impersonate the president or think that

your entire society is stupid, no, people in ukraine are smart, business is smart, and if you drive this business outside the borders then he will get up and go to poland, where he will pay taxes calmly, where he will know that there is security, where half of his employees left and are sitting there today and will work there. yes, it is so dangerous, the tax legislation will be understand that he works on the territory of the european union, he will understand that he will not have to pay bribes to the customs officer when he brings raw materials here, they will understand that he will not have to tell the taxman who writes notes to himself for the new year that he wants a new chanel handbag or such a story yes , we remember, so i want to fly to london , well, you understand, without regard to customs officers, so i would like to talk more about important international stories. that is, historically, this is another

historic speech by president joseph biden and the extremely important visit of president zelensky to the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland, we now invite to our live broadcast oksana yurynets, professor , lviv polytechnic university, ex-head of the ukrainian delegation to the nato parliamentary assembly in 18-19 years, member of the network for the protection of national interests ms. oksano , we welcome you glory to ukraine is extremely important sharp speech of the president of the united states joseph biden so he very clearly set the perimeter along which the whole will move the civilized world understands that the united states is ready to be the flagship in this process, and this is a story not only of the pro-russian federation, it is also a story about china and other states in general. this is the impression that the state of the so-called cold war was recorded during the manifesto. maybe i am wrong. so, your

assessment. i will actually talk about the fact that this speech is really important. maybe it is out of the spotlight today in ukraine, but it took place with such a high strategic level . it seems to me that it is probably in a certain way a psychological plan that further relations with ukraine is more than that, and in fact, in his speech, joseph biden said that once a year ago, we received a new challenge, but after which we passed this test, we became a country, a state above a state, we are a country that helps ukraine , which stands on the side of democracy, and moreover, in the context of what was present in fact, the ambassador of ukraine to the united states, where there was special attention in her person to all citizens of ukraine. well , i believe that what happened was a very historic moment from the point of view and the support

of the two houses of the congress of the two bipartisan the support of the entire congress why? because in the well, then it was our ambassador and oksana markarov that they came from here to this hearing with blue and yellow ribbons, this is symbolism, but this is the symbolism of the fact that the united states is in its next strategy the intended plans are on the side of ukraine and ukraine is not alone, that is, when everyone talks about fatigue, about the fact that there are some other things in priority and we also understand that this is our daily work, we still received e-e messages by which we understand that now even the students of the united states are proud of their support of ukraine and show their strength precisely in this, that is, to support the strong who are fighting. it is a priority of such a superpower as the united states, and from the support of which we have practically something to thank for, in fact , every day, because for us now

, many things are very important that ukraine is in the field of vision , which helps us with weapons and directly supports us to survive economically. that is, this is what we need in order to keep the economy going, it is the appropriate funds for other sectors except defense, we understand now the president of ukraine is in the united kingdom. this is an important story, but somehow everyone would have missed or missed the extremely important visit of the minister of defense of germany, in particular , boris pistorius, and we have already seen that the strategy of providing us with heavy equipment, in particular, and european, is beginning to be implemented. what do you know about this? see in this context i would like to quote vitaliy klitschko and met with the mar of the capital and together with his brother who, by the way, immediately after the appointment of the new minister of defense was

with him at a meeting in berlin, but what is important is that the message in this resident is that there will be weapons and economic aid, the most important thing is that we say yes in this the message to the official is also that now after the new appointment of the new minister of defense, everything will be fast we talk a lot about speeding up our victory and we talk about the fact that unfortunately every day of delay tastes very dear to us we heard today about one number of leopards needed today we already hear a completely different number and in fact when we already hear some amount in ukraine, this means that it has either already arrived or is on its way here. of course, this is very important for us. the united states should support ukraine to others, if we talk about what is happening in the european union, if germany will have such a stable position in the european union, then it is clear that all our

partners who could not just talk about it now they will be actively involved because, again, because it was emphasized in this message, which was voiced by vitaliy klitschko, that it is both the economy and weapons and defense. that is, we understand that ukraine today needs exactly this help in those two directions, that is, one more thing. this confirms that local self-government, public organizations, ukrainians are not indifferent, the entire diplomatic front , scientific and business, must work for our common victory and the goal of mutuality, and those visits , both ours to the countries of our partners and the partners of key people to ukraine tomorrow the mayor will be sitting, who is driving, who is driving a lot of generators here as well. that is, this is what we are saying about help, which should be daily and continuous, and in fact, these messages are about what we will say

, so we have something to strengthen our faith in victory significantly figures are a significant help and concrete things already from the fact that they are coming here, when they come to ukraine , the key key persons of those countries say, that is, the responsibility of the ministry of defense. is it the prime minister of britain who receives the president of ukraine today? things the prime minister of britain on the sunok river is so about some practical things that have already been outlined at least in specific terms , we will continue to support ukraine to ensure a decisive military victory on the battlefield this year, we understand that when a specific time appears and a specific the term means that immediately er narrows well , i don't know the number of names of weapons that we can handle in this time, we should already have one second, third and fifth, should we

shield this signal as a solution in particular great britain should provide us with more than what they have already offered, maybe challengers or something else and from tanks, or maybe it’s time to raise your eyes to the sky and talk about aviation. what did president dmytro talk about ? it did not change, they occupied it constantly, they will help until the last, and in this regard, they are one of the locomotives, will they provide aviation, i am not sure about this , unfortunately, unfortunately, for now, for now, and the question is, uh, they don’t even provide it here, they are or they will give, but the question is only about it. it is exactly the same as when we talk about tanks , tanks. we need them immediately and for many reasons, because then you will be able to form a strike force to break through the defense and carry out a deep

offensive, because when you have it, there is a big difference. if you will you get uh 10 tanks every month or you will get 120 at once these are two big differences for an effective operation on the battlefield so uh hmm i wouldn't guess about this year uh we would all like the war to end as soon as possible our victory is a complete victory, but you can never underestimate the enemy, they have many people whom they do not count, we understand that they do not have so many tanks, they do not have so many planes, they do not have so much ammunition, but they have a lot of people, well, how many people it is difficult to call them people, because we have seen who they are. and in buch and in irpen and in izyum and in other cities of ukraine, to call most of the russians

people today is not a return, well , according to ms. oksana. how do you see the prospects ? real supply prospects to us combat aviation you have a very interesting post today in melinda simpson er. this is er today the ambassador of britain in ukraine and you saw the plane from which the president actually left later and between us and the ministry of foreign affairs was informed that it was returning empty this plane will not be, that is, it is there to transport. i also want to believe that what is actually necessary strategically, which we really need now, will be loaded. this plane will also be loaded upon returning to ukraine. this support will be expressed in concrete terms. necessary things for our armed forces of ukraine. this is really very important and very necessary today. and you know, i still have my friends. merlin hun wrote to me today when he was still the president of the nato parliamentary assembly

about what we believe. are so brave, like you, but my party, that is, her party, and they will all work to help ukraine, this is at the level of different dimensions, and it seems to me that actually we should believe that it will happen very quickly , there are things that we cannot talk about we civilian people, so it seems to me that everything should be fine. i would like, uh, here is such a small detail, uh, if you would add uh, to our conversation, uh, says the spokesman of the prime minister of great britain, the decision of the head of the british ministry of defense is entrusted to investigate which planes it is possible to potentially provide ukraine well, of course, the word potentially does not add any confidence, but no. can we provide planes, but just which ones can we add? well, it sounds like a resolved issue, just in some reasonable perspective

, let's not get ahead of ourselves. god grant that it will happen sooner than we all expect, but there are combat planes, there are transport planes, there are a number of things that we can get and let's still wait, er, when we will solve this issue, then we will be happy to discuss what happened, so let's hope that you don't want to rush ahead, because disappointment also sometimes accompanies us all, in particular, we remember how long and persistently our society and our politicians asked for heavy armored vehicles, we understand that history is extremely not simple in the end p oksano what do you think about the story and olafsholz, they made a strategic decision for themselves, in particular, it is about the supply of military heavy weapons in the quantities that we need, and is

there currently any restructuring taking place within the borders of germany itself, in particular, it is about increasing production. well, actually, i i wanted to say that at the beginning that actually they are talking about speeding up , we are talking about cooperating with us . it was important to me that the systematic work of the meeting from the moment of the appointment of the new minister of foreign affairs, where volodymyr klitschko met, and then the whole message of vitaliy klitschko, that is, a person who is not, shall we say , is not responsible for this direction, but when it is on the lips of every ukrainian, will come help us with weapons so that they don't help me with anything else, this means that it will definitely happen, and what's more, in this context , let's say yes , there is no such equipment equal and stronger than germany in europe , so we understand how much we have it

to do that there are different memes about the head of mr. scholtz we heard about it as well but again today we understand that this is the case we themselves and their intelligence are weighing the dangers of delaying with the help of ukraine and i hope that this fact will play a key role now there are great vicissitudes regarding the olympic games, including them, so it seems to me that all these moments are now politically and historically on the side of ukraine in order for us to get this necessary advantage, the technical advantage that we need with people. i agree with my colleague dmytro in the studio that actually our people are people with higher educations , they are people who go knowingly defending their land and every time there is such an opportunity, we must say thank you to our armed forces of ukraine, where many of our relatives

are, that is why it is important and we believe in the first place oksana well, this is fresh news, at least the president's representative in the verkhovna rada , fyodor veneslavskyi, announced this. so, the security committee of the council returned to the procurement audit, we have left, i don't know, it's serious. rockets on the settlement of semenivka, including an industrial enterprise, there are people who are under the rubble now and two people have been injured . i think that this is very important to note. well , regarding the audit, the audit will be an interesting question because last time he told the committee that everything is fine there and if he will return he will have to admit that he was wrong and i think that he was wrong because there are many spots and, unfortunately , not white ones that will have to be answered, this is not a question of the committee frankly, but it will be difficult to explain how everything was okay then and after two weeks it became bad. thank you , dmytro razumkov, the people's benefactor, the former