[000:00:00;00] vladimir putin is a third creeping non-combatant, not girkin strilkov, who was sitting in the donbass at that time, but there is supposedly a conversation between putin and plotnytsky, who was then the head of the so-called lpr, and about what exactly putin gave the order to send this beech, because all the conversations there are about that he will return from france and say so, that's why i think that the topic should be promoted and this international criminal should be punished . the visit to the british capital saw different things

, but the events of this day forced many to change their traditions. there was no information in britain about the trip of the ukrainian leader to great britain the day before, late in the evening before the day before, some british journalists who have certain sources began to receive messages and invitations to a number of events but again, without details and this morning, when zelenskyi's plane landed at the airport, it became top news in an instant, right now you will see the first footage of a military plane with zelenskyi on board arriving at the airport, just to give a sense of the possibility events, well, the guilty tv channels instantly changed their news. some news channels instantly changed their standard grids, some of them interrupted the program in order to show these frames live, it happened around 20 minutes after noon, visit what and

i will repeat it once again, it was a complete surprise for everyone who was not involved in the preparation, rather zelensky was expected in brussels tomorrow and with this even a certain scandal arose with the leak of information, but we will definitely talk about it, but a little later the british protocol was able to keep everything in full secrets, well, because of the absolutely security issue. so , on the morning of february 8 today , the british prime minister's administration announced that zelensky is arriving in london, downing street said that he will hold meetings with the prime minister, rishi sumak, will speak with in a speech in parliament, the british government also announced that the training program of the ukrainian military will be expanded to include fighter pilots and marines. and this may already mean the existence of preliminary agreements on the transfer of western military aircraft to ukraine, which kyiv has been asking for for a long time, and i immediately introduce the guests who will help me today together with you , you can put all the events of the day on the shelves and look

at what is left, even behind the scenes, it is probably even more important. so maria zolkina a researcher at the london school of economics i congratulate you and orysya lutsevichi from the royal institute of international relations chat house i also congratulate you and thank you for taking the time to share the events of this day . knew yes, a plane of the royal air force landed at the london airport. by the way , the prime minister of the kingdom of russia was waiting for zelensky at the airport . welcome to great britain with the hashtag glory to ukraine, he wrote on twitter the head of the british government to inform about the arrival of the ukrainian president but as i already said, these shots were broadcast live, and during this visit the whole of britain already knew the moment of the plane landing and zelensky once again a number of tv channels broadcast live and from the airport both politicians went to the old street where

the the british prime minister's residence was also visited by journalists, among them my colleague, correspondent vysirna taraniuk, she managed to get inside the residence. this is what irena saw and heard that was not announced the visit of the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, to the united kingdom began with a visit here to 10 old street, where he was met by the prime minister of the united kingdom, rishi sunok richie sunok called volodymyr zelenskyi his great friend and reminded that he was in ukraine in november with assurances ukraine in the constant support of british society and the british government , this visit is taking place in conditions of extreme secrecy. no one knew about it from the mass media until today in the morning, next in his program is the address of the president of ukraine in the parliament to the chamber of the people's parliament, and i will remind you that it was here in the british parliament that president zelensky delivered his first address to

foreign legislative bodies on march 8, when he quoted winston churchill . according to journalists, this visit is as close as possible to a state visit, although president zelenskyi has not yet made a state visit to the united kingdom, this is also the first visit since the beginning of the full-scale russian invasion on february 24, and soon it will be exactly a year since this intense russian-ukrainian war began , the most important thing that ukraine needs now, according to the authorities and analysts, is weapons, weapons, and weapons. and precisely this training of the ukrainian military in how to use challenger 2 tanks is one of the elements of zelenskyi's presidential visit to

the united kingdom. today he is visiting and the military base where the ukrainian soldiers who arrived here last week are trained. the significance of this visit is very symbolic . zelensky's arrival in ancient split lasted maybe 20-25 minutes, but its symbolism is that britain will continue to support ukraine and that britain will continue will allocate tanks to ukraine and support politically and economically and another symbolism and also a touch to the fact that the nature of this visit is not so ordinary and not so working that president zelenskyy has an audience with as the new british king charles the third. in general, what is happening in buckingham palace is the visit of the president of ukraine to the western country that was one of the first to show support to ukraine. it is extremely important and very symbolic. britain is with ukraine even before president zelenskyi returns from london. the united kingdom

will announce new personal sanctions against putin's entourage, we are primarily talking about those who helped putin get rich and finance the war in ukraine. iryna taraniuk , a bbc correspondent, worked today at downing street and with me live on the air maria zolkina from the london school of economic and political sciences rysy lutsevich royal institute of international relations we review and analyze this unexpected visit by zelensky together we look, as i said , behind the scenes as much as we can well, speaking of what is happening behind the scenes , i i understand, maria, that you were probably in the same situation as journalists and most of the expert observers found out about zelensky's visit not long before the plane landed at the london airport. but in year i sometimes chaos there, then you probably knew more about the royal institute of international relations. did you even have the feeling that london

was preparing to receive a visit from such a person? we see that at that time the visits even to the united states were unannounced and unknown. therefore, it was a surprise for us as well as for many here in london and in ukraine. well , you know the united states there by the way a few hours, and it takes longer to fly there, and yet the journalists already knew maria, this visit is zelensky's second since the beginning of the war, the first was to washington, uh, that was clear. okay, i remember that after that visit in brussels , many people made it clear. now zelenskyi is waiting in the political capital of the european union this would be such an important signal for europe and he was waiting for him in brussels, they were waiting for zelenskyi, they wanted to see the ukrainian president in themselves, looking ahead , it seems that they will see it tomorrow, but first

, london and paris tonight, too it let's also talk about what kind of signal you see here and whether it offends the politicians in old europe . good evening, i don't think it will offend, and they think that it was fully expected that the second visit will be poland in full, because volodymyr zelensky stopped to meet with ange. on the way back from the united states, or it will be great britain , based on the simple calculation that these are all strategic partners of ukraine, which are among the largest donors of military aid, because great britain is a donor of military aid in terms of military aid, it is number two after the united states, and these are the countries that occupy, i mean, great britain , poland, which you could think of as the next points for visits, and this is a country that is very clear in its strategic vision. how should ukrainian victory this is the complete de-occupation of ukrainian lands

, this is the unconditional crushing defeat of russian troops on the territory of ukraine and the unequivocal accession of ukraine to international security systems, in particular to nato, therefore it was both symbolically and strategically justified and completely it is expected that great britain became the second, in fact, the second destination in the beginning of zelenskyi's international visits ok well, then we return to great britain , we return to london about how high the importance of this visit became clear - it became clear that the program of negotiations with e. -e with the prime minister e -e spoke in the parliament e about him we will analyze him in detail in general there is something to talk about meetings with the king well and the military base the military base on which zelensky's picture they gave a press conference, well, this is actually the level of a state visit, correct me if i'm wrong, questions for you

both meetings with the prime minister, political results how would you characterize them orysia let's start with you , well, of course, we see that the main task of zelenskyi is to form a new coalition that will deliver fighter jets for ukraine, and what is interesting is that we are now seeing, uh, that there is information about what will be the next longer-range projectiles that ukraine receives, and what is interesting, if you observe how the rhetoric developed during the day, at the beginning prime minister sunak said only about the training of pilots, and now at the end of the day we see information in news agencies that he will consider the possibility of providing the same planes. that is, we see that well , the negotiations were probably quite successful and that it is important that there is an active discussion here in great britain between the opposition and the government about financing the defense sector, and we see that

the labor party is putting pressure on sunak to increase financing for the military-industrial complex itself, because the provision of aircraft will require e increasing the funding of the royal air force and also additional funds for spare parts training. that is, it will require additional resources and we will hope that the resources will really be allocated in the same way after this visit maria, the same question to you, what would you pay attention to when raising political the results of zelenskyi's visit to london , i mainly talk with the prime minister of great britain, well, i draw attention first of all to the fact that great britain continues to be at the forefront of new types of armed support for ukraine we remember how important the political signal was regarding the decision on chandlers two challengers i apologize two

a-a on tanks and this started a discussion in old europe about the possibility of providing two leopards to ukraine and now we see the same bold step on the part of london regarding the potential the supply of fighter jets to ukraine is very important not just in some immeasurable perspective, but precisely in terms of short-term and some plans. since we are on the threshold of the munich security conference where clearly one of the key topics will be the discussion of exactly how intensively and at what speed ukraine should receive the types of weapons that are needed for the deoccupation of ukrainian lands in order to at least start this company of co-occupation from 2023 and similar symbolic signals regarding the strengthening of sanctions on the provision of weapons to ukraine and the training of ukrainians pilots to control

modern fighter jets, regardless of whether the actual delivery took place, all this is very important in order to break the last obstacle on the way to arming ukraine fully for such a rush, you mentioned the munich security conference, of course, a very important event that will take place this month, i would add that, well, tomorrow, of course, the summit of the european union, where the ukrainian issue will be number one, is on the agenda and rammstein is another rammstein meeting, if i'm not mistaken next week we are planning, at least we are planning there. it might even be okay, we are moving on from the old street. zelensky went to westminster, where he spoke before both houses of the british parliament. i already said here there is a lot to talk about here, if i watched the speech of the british parliament, the mother of the parliaments of the world, for a second, as they call it, zelensky spoke in westminster

hall, an 11th-century building, the place where the most important state events among british parliamentarians take place. dexterous orator even when, during his unprecedented address to the house of commons immediately after the russian invasion, he quoted churchill's military speech we never let's give up, well, just look at exactly how zelenskyi was presented and exactly how he was met . i don't even know what was in this speech , what was more interesting to watch, the speech

uh or the reaction in 2015. what do you think of zelenskyi's speech in the british parliament and the reaction of the people who listened to him, of course. this is a historic moment of his speech. and the most important thing is that zelenskyi appealed to common values, he said that we will fight for freedom together with great britain, and these words sounded very convincing and... it seems to me that one of his main messages was that russia has no chance in this war, and that's why he, you know , evoked empathy in the audience, you could see how people shook their heads, and in fact, such speech the gesture was very touching and what is interesting. it is definitely a gift

that he gave from the ukrainian pilot with this phrase that we have freedom but give us wings to protect it, this phrase is now heard by everyone in the media and it really is if a brief summary of his ventsmeisteri speech you know, i will sound like we have, i hope, if there is such an opportunity, let's watch now a fragment of zelensky's speech, and that 's where he is, where he is handing over a gift from ukrainian pilots, let's see, if there is such an opportunity, let's see a little later , maria, for now, i'll ask you. this is almost not the limit of the show. when zelenskyi very directly and frankly asked about the planes of cautious british politicians, after all, british

politics has very, very deep such traditions, yes, but it does not scare away, i think the history of 2022 showed that, despite the internal turbulence in the british political system, support for ukraine remained and continues to remain as stable as possible. moreover, unlike many countries that are partners of ukraine, this support unites both the government and the opposition by and large. that is, there are no internal contradictions. in this regard, it is very important that britain itself, perhaps for its own reasons, acquires or regains a specific city in the international arena precisely as

one of the leading forces that shape order day and e-e understanding of the threats that come from the violation of the territorial integrity of ukraine from full-scale aggression, they are very clear to the british politicians , that is why they easily fit into the foreign policy of britain and the fact that britain is pushing , in particular, the countries of western europe, the old europe , the core of the european union, in fact, to more uh , radical actions and support for ukraine, so no, i think that right here in london, volodymyr zelenskyi with similar direct messages, uh, was more than appropriate, you know, by the way the fleet is like this before what you said, but now the editors are telling me that we can already watch this fragment here during a speech in the parliament zelenskyy called on britain and the whole world to provide ukraine with combat planes, what a very interesting way he brought a helmet from ukraine ukrainian pilot on which it is written we have freedom, give us wings to protect it let's see

inbreation in britain, the king is a pilot of the air force, and today in ukraine every pilot of the air force is a king and i am proud of our aviation i brought from them a gift to you great britain this is the helmet of our real ukrainian pilot he is one of our most successful aces and one of our kings on the helmet it is written we have freedom give us wings to protect it i believe this symbol will help us in our next coalition of aircraft coalition i appeal to you and the world in simple but most important words , fighter jets for ukraine, wings for freedom

so, maria folup question , worked for a long time in ukraine, now you are in london and you can evaluate what the difference between how in ukraine they think about how ukraine is perceived there, well there, yes or not and how ukraine is actually perceived here , there is a difference, i would say a slight difference, that is, of course, in london and great britain there is a certain debate in academics circles and in expert circles regarding what the policy of great britain and the conditional collective measure should look like in relation to ukraine and russia, but by and large the disagreements are serious.

it is enough, even just before our broadcast , i completed a focus group in which we discussed, including how ukrainians perceive different countries that help us, and i did not have a single person who doubted that great britain is a real strategic partner of ukraine because one thing is situational partners, and another thing is strategic. maria zoloti lutsevich , we will continue, stay in touch. met with the british king again at the third buckingham palace intrigue. by the way, there was a discussion . well, okay, zelensky was seen in front of politicians in his signature style, the military is already used to it. but will he betray his tradition or follow traditional royal protocols or wear a suit to the audience to the palace eh, but did the british media notice the monarch in

a zelensky suit, wearing a military-style jumper and trousers, zelensky reported that he congratulated the king of the contiguous kingdom ah m.m. with the recent ascension to the throne wished peace and prosperity to the british people. towards the evening, zelenskyi and sunak left for dorset county, where ukrainian soldiers are trained to operate challenger 2 tanks at a military base there. they arrived by helicopter. zelensky thanked sunak for his support before handing medals to some ukrainian military personnel , it is a great honor for us to see all of you here, and your courage inspires us and the courage of your families inspires us, vsunok said at the end of january, ukrainian tank crews i will remind you that they arrived in velika brya to train on challenger 2 tanks, and on january 15, britain confirmed plans to transfer to ukraine a sc-drone of

14 challenger-2 tanks and about 30 sao caliber 155 mm. on the connection of military experts oleksandr musienko. i congratulate you, oleksandr. you must have heard the press conference of zelenskyi and the picture, and probably, like other journalists, tried to catch and guess what great britain provides what what to expect from ukraine to the armed forces of ukraine what are your first the conclusions are clear that a large part was left behind. well, first of all, it must be said that britain is extremely classical in terms of military doctrines and the help it provides . that is, we see that britain is concentrating in tanks on the high-speed component on the artillery , which should support these tanks, that is, actually

clear let's say the way for tanks and infantry, and now we are talking about aviation and longer-range weapons. that is, this is the third component that must be in interaction, which is taught by classical military science, we have to attention let's say so in this case and the british one as well, therefore, from this point of view, absolutely logical decisions are made regarding the possibility of transferring aircraft, and i still think that, as in the case of the challenger 2 tanks, it will be quite a good precedent from our british partners when they will make the first decisions that will serve as a good example for other partners in the future in terms of transferring aircraft to us, aircraft used by the british royal air force. they are also known by the air force - this airplanes are mostly typhoon european, there is also an f-35, but i think it is about this

fund. thank you, oleksandr. thank you , of course, expert oleksandr musienko . the editors tell me that the report of our correspondent natalka goncharova, who was also involved in this, is ready. watched the visit of zelenskyi's bag to the military base. and here's what she saw and heard there. the ukrainian president arrived at the british military base south of london. he and the british prime minister were brought here by helicopter volodymyr zelenskyi with the ukrainian delegation, they toured the military base and showed how ukrainian soldiers are trained. it is at this base that they train to operate british challenger tanks, and the president was very happy to meet with the ukrainian guys. the prime minister said that in addition to the tankers, which britain will already receive, they will start training sailors and pilots. at

the press conference, journalists asked why they don't give money for tanks. sunah assured that there are negotiations about them, but first you have to learn to fly them. and it usually takes three years, to which the ukrainian president gave the perfect answer . the question of people with experience is difficult for him to do . then the president thanked him and left because he still had a lot of business to do. he said that london is very nice, but he came here on business. not on an excursion and now i want to return to our guests maria zolkina london school of economic and political sciences orysya aletsevich royal institute of international relations immediately from london zelenskyi flies to paris then in brussels, in paris, he will meet with macron and

scholtz in his hand . what do you think of this kind of geography, don’t these big movements indicate unprecedented situations? some time ago well, it can already be said that the european tour of the president, as we can see, are the key capitals, the capitals on which the future of the ukrainian victory actually depends, because ah, of course, we see that putin does not change his geostrategic goals for ukraine, he wants to destroy ukrainian statehood, conquer donbas and convince the defense that ukraine does not belong to this trans-european community , neither to the eu nor to nato, so it seems to me that this is the main task of zelenskyi to convince that the aggressor understands only the language of force, that the ukrainian army must defeat the russian army on the territory of ukraine and this is the only way

to return to the world order that was violated by this aggression maria and i gave you a minute to answer such a question tomorrow yourself in brussels - your expectations, first of all, ukraine should receive assurances of financial support and commitment to supporting ukraine's path to the european union , so that the history of ukraine's candidacy does not turn into the history of the western balkans or, even more so, the history of turkey. well , armed support is the same, although the european union it does not do this directly, but it is a separate signal to paris and berlin and all other capitals that it is time to concentrate their forces as much as possible on equipping the ukrainian armed forces for this of the decisive year thank you very much maria from golkin orysiv lutsevich thank you and that's all for today, let's put an end to a bigger story

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