[000:00:00;00] that ukraine must win in order for this war to end as soon as possible and end with a just and lasting peace, but not with an armistice and a second signal. public opinion, which is generally very favorable to ukraine and very actively , with the overwhelming opinion, with the overwhelming opinion, supports the leaders who declare that britain will help ukraine as much as it is needed and if possible, thank you very much for such a wonderful analysis bohdan tsyupan - european correspondent of the ukrainian service of the voice of america radio liberty we talked about the consequences of volodymyr zelenskyi's visit to

london well, how many times today we and our guests mentioned this that after london the ukrainian president will probably go to paris and then to brussels in particular , the reuters agency in paris reports that he is supposed to meet with manuel macron and german chancellor olaf scholz. zelensky is expected to arrive in brussels tomorrow where he is to speak at the plenary session of the european parliament, and radio svoboda received this information earlier this morning practically from its own sources in brussels. my colleague zoryana stepanenko joins our broadcast live from brussels. zoryana my congratulations, are they still waiting for zelensky in brussels? well, really? his path will pass through paris, what do you know about it? well, actually, everything is in principle, as you said, on the way to brussels, volodymyr zelenskyi has a stop in one more european

capital - this is paris and the french and german the media reports that the ukrainian leader and german chancellor schultz will be received by the french president at the elysée palace. neither this nor his further visit to belgium. there are still no official confirmations , however, there are unofficial ones. now , more than enough about brussels . part of the ukrainian delegation has already arrived in the capital of the eu. who exactly i can't voice it, but we managed to talk today and the representatives of the ukrainian president's team explained why zelensky will come here personally, do you remember that since the beginning of the great war no the leaders of the eu could not do without it, but the president appealed to his colleagues online, in principle, the main priority coincides with what was previously voiced by the head of the state that was attacked when he accordingly named the conditions of his trip to brussels, this is a weapon. well, the team perfectly understands that the european council as that is, all the leaders of the eu council do not make such a decision. it is the area of ​​responsibility of the member states. well, but the general

support is necessary, they say. and besides, it is an opportunity to convince colleagues on a bilateral basis levels, i will remind you that tomorrow the leaders of all 27 member states of the european union will be here, but also bilateral meetings, in particular. this meeting is reported by colleagues. well, again, returning to priorities in ukraine , long-range installations are needed. well, also ammunition , especially in 122 mm and 155 mm, is important, representatives of the delegation believe, and that partners are not they only accordingly equipped it to ukraine and sped up with the decisions that were approved earlier, that in particular the political will to provide western tanks in ukraine has been confirmed, but none of these armored vehicles in the country. so far there is no time factor, critical destroyers will also go in

zelenskyi’s team, they believe that they can break through this wall it will come out much faster than a tank wall , metaphorically speaking, and this is all the number one purpose of the visit, in fact, friend, you are raising the issue of ukraine's future membership in the european union. kyiv expects that the decision on the transition from the candidate to the next stage, i.e. negotiations, the partners will adopt this year and the third item . on tomorrow's agenda is president zelensky's peace formula and security guarantees for ukraine together with his colleagues. he plans to discuss what steps are needed to implement this and how to actually do it. well, you see that the plans for the visit are ambitious, but they note in the president's team the cost of leaving the country, adding that it is unlikely to be possible closer to the anniversary of the invasion, it was unlikely it would be possible well, they emphasize once again what they said earlier, that for their information , russia is preparing revenge, well, in fact, in addition to the meeting with the eu leaders, in which zelenskyi himself will have an extraordinary meeting tomorrow, as

our sources in eu diplomatic circles report, they are expected in the european parliament and this speech is scheduled for the first half we will keep an eye on everything and, accordingly , we will promptly report on the reaction of the meps, on how the negotiations went and on the reaction of the leaders of the european union, please. we will also be alert. follow it, i am already announcing for our viewers tomorrow tomorrow's speech of volodymyr zelensky in the european parliament, we will broadcast it live thank you very much zoryana stepanenko live from brussels well, as i already said today, i and my colleagues who joined us from london reported that the number one topic during the meeting between sunak and volodymyr zelenskyi is about tanks, so i apologize, not tanks, but fighter jets, tanks, this is already yesterday, although there are no tanks in ukraine yet, they are expected in march. well, fighter jets are the number one topic, indeed, the prime minister

great britain, the decision has already become known, instructed the minister of defense bn voles to investigate which british planes can be sent to ukraine in the future , a representative of the government informed about this today, the decision is transmitted by sky news, and this may indicate the readiness of britain to provide aviation to ukraine, well, there is a sense here to remind that since february last year great britain has sent military aid to ukraine in the amount of 2.3 billion pounds and has become the second largest state to support kyiv after from the united states of america, ukraine received from london an air defense system, tanks, artillery systems , hundreds of thousands of shells, armored vehicles, equipment for radio electronic warfare. ukrainian pilots on western-style fighters, in principle, such a decision may indicate a change in britain's position regarding

the supply of western fighter jets to ukraine. i will remind you earlier that the same british prime minister decided to call the delivery of fighter jets impractical, he explained it by the fact that british military aircraft are very difficult for training pilots well, what exactly will change if ukraine receives the same fighter jets, we will talk literally in a minute now i suggest you listen to an excerpt from today's press conference that the british prime minister said about aid for ukraine, we both know that the extraordinary strength and inspiring courage of the ukrainian people will eventually defeat russia, that's why we train and we are providing them with the weapons they need to push back russian troops and as i said today we are speeding up the delivery of our allies' equipment to ensure that it reaches your front line in the coming days and weeks and months or years well, we will continue to talk about giving ukraine western fighter jets

if they were in ukraine, but we are just talking about this right now , colonel of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine roman svitan, roman, my congratulations. to britain, i could give ukraine some kind of american f-16. are these some of their own? by the way, today we also had experts on the air during the day, and they said that britain is now engaged in rearmament, and they supposedly don’t have the f-16 anymore. needed and they could give them to ukraine, what do you say, which fighters, well, really expect, well, definitely, if there are ones there, then it will be a typhoon, er, the main plane, er, of great britain, of some countries, er, nato , european typhoon, a good plane, an excellent plane, er, this fighter jet fighter

a platform that can perform certain tasks, e.g., in addition to interceptor interceptor interceptors and tasks for border guards, which is not vk , this is exactly the kind of platform we need, and it’s roughly the same as the f-16, but the typhoon is still more expensive three e in 16 later for us, of course, the optimal option would be the f16 but if great britain, then it will definitely be a typhoon, eh, this plane can carry a lot of nato weapons, almost all aviation weapons, it can lift a car with two engines, a good control scheme that is, the plane itself is reliable, and i would not say that it is difficult to control or to retrain a pilot of the first, second class, who flies in our country for a moment 29 on the su-27, the same machine with two engines , about the same

class, he is slightly in the middle between the day and the second, and with the same tasks later , the pilots of the first and second class can easily relearn to stay on the plane for months. here you are, the training could also be fast on these typhoons, listen, but just recently decided sunak said that british fighters are very impractical and it is very impractical to give them, maybe he had someone else in mind and clearly these are the main aircraft they still have the f-35, but it is too expensive, it is the bomber, it is the fighter, it is the typhoon and the typhoon in itself is a machine that, at first, is quite a lot, that is, after the f-16, the typhoon is probably the first machine that can be considered , and in 16, more than 4,000 were produced, and of these up to 1,000 typhoons, well, great britain has

there are more than a hundred, a hundred and a half, at least because i think 10-20% of our fleet could be shared with us in principle. and this is, um , good bugs, at least one of the quadrille of 12 planes, uh, a brigade of 24 planes, in principle , we could uh they will perform the tasks that are very important to us now on these planes, especially to cover the same challengers and the same tanks in british stripes . after all, it is very difficult for our mig 29 and 127 from the last millennium to resist us, it is difficult to resist the russian aviation but typhoon is definitely on голову выше россия even if, conditionally speaking, ukraine received these british fighters, which are currently being discussed, so that it would give

ukraine an aircraft of such a level , this is permissible. е light fighter jets е platforms perform могу полніять также четери тажети это четы в дном interception of the same aviation or unmanned aerial vehicles of cruise missiles , that is, you can perform this function a float and this is a bomber, it can carry up to 9 tons of bomb load, an airplane that can

drop an enemy on the head, about the same combat unit, the combat parts of the suspension are like 100 missiles, there are 31 for the haiders, that is, 9 tons the weight of the warhead of the m3190 missile chamber is later, eh, it’s four in one, it will fulfill all these, all these four tasks, it will definitely fulfill, that is, it will be the key to the anti-aircraft defense system of our general air defense system, and it will work to support the troops when attacking directly on the earth and please specify one more detail, you partially mentioned this and how much time does a ukrainian pilot need to prepare to fly on these british typhoon fighters, everything will depend on prof. the suitability of the pilot himself, that is, what class of aviator is allowed, eh, the test pilot, he can do it in one day, eh, well, before that

, you just need to study the technique, eh, the engineering components of that plane, he can fly in one day and perform certain tasks , test the pilot. well this is a very rare profession in this sense, well, the main flight crew that flies with us are first- and second-class pilots, these are pilots who can, in principle, in three uh, from three to six months, they can master this plane, what about you they will not complete all the tasks specific levels are allowed on the ground or in the air, it performs all the tasks, that is, it can complete this plane, or three to six months, you still need to study them, which means that the west is also preparing for the fact that the war will continue in ukraine for a long time, but i have one more question, because today the fighter jets were talking. this is the number one topic, but today they also talked about the fact that ukraine

can get another long-range weapon from britain . and tell me, please. from your from the point of view of sounding some ultimatums so that, for example, not to use this weapon to strike targets in russia well, not an ultimatum, most likely uh-uh, one of the points of the agreement, let's say they can be spoken somehow, the optimal option uh- uh the rockets that he made are rockets, cruise missiles, air-based missiles , mostly they are also sea-based, our main ones are air-based, and they just need adapters for some of our planes, for example, they are the same as adapters for harmam po hamu we have these rockets, we use them, because it is a cruise missile

that it has a range of 250 km to 1000 , it has a range of 250 km to 1000, there are rockets that it has a range of 1000 km. calibres can be gas 10 of the first a55 well, this is still a thousand-thousand missile in a combat cha bolt for 450 kg tandem, and it penetrates us first, the reserve part would and the reserve penetrates a certain hole in the object and then there the main charge is already coming in this object is detonated from the inside. the warhead is almost half a ton later . this is a missile. it can send the entire black sea fleet to the bottom. the guidance system is there on the starting section on the marching section it goes along inertial inertial

gps system and further on already on the final section it comes out of it the head is the infrared head of the guidance itself, that is it the purpose of the slide and the destruction of the half-ton is determined by the fact that it is almost impossible to hide because it has ships of the russian black sea fleet, ending with large bases, four bases in crimea. until now, russian naval bases are still working in russia , of course. er, certain warehouses, that is, all the logistics, the russians, and the rocket will deliver exactly this rocket, we need it for the liberation of crimea, because in crimea , no one here will simply ask , at least if we will liberate our territory. i think that's exactly the question the transfer of this rocket to us, and it was raised and uh, in addition, our president is still working on uh

, great britain is allowed to go if the british also transfer the opposite helicopter to us . the point is that it is very important. the same bradley mar and the helicopter, the helicopter from above performs cover in the first e-e in some positions, this duo on the ground and performs the same task as the tank of the helicopter, a pack of e-e , practically a flying tank very e-e carries e-e a certain amount of anti-tank rockets with this tank with a large range of defeat is very many noses of unguided active projectiles , that is, it supports our infantry

in motion. ukraine has not yet received and used any missiles that could strike up to 1,000 km from its western partners, well, it wasn’t exactly yet. in the nomenclature that is many, it is released, there are some positions of modification of the rocket, it goes from 200 km to 1,000 km. they will give us that. well, at least 250 kg, that is, lower. 150 km harme is going quite successfully eh harpoons are working with us also 150 km , that is

, by and large er will try conduct volodymyr zelenskyi from great britain thank you very much roman svitan, colonel of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine, we talked about the possible consequences of volodymyr zelenskyi's visit to london, where he , in particular, can be said to be knocking out western weapons in western fighter jets for the armed forces of ukraine, thank you very much well, one more topic, history which we want to discuss during the escape from balaklia, kharkiv region , the russian occupiers left a flash drive that contained hundreds of various documents , thanks to these documents it was possible to identify several employees of the fsb who managed the actions of the russian army in occupied balaklia, this flash drive ended up in the possession of the editors of the svoboda radio program, the flash drive probably belonged to one of the deputy commanders for political work of the balaklia military group , thanks to the information on the media , russian military personnel who tried to recruit the local population and during the occupation

of balaklia , we will now show you an excerpt of the investigation of the program of the scheme. balaklia becomes the first a large city in the kharkiv region where the ukrainian flag is raised, the ukrainian flag is indicated, remove this crap along with the hasty retreat of the russian troops, the city spoke with the voices of those who survived and endured the torture of the occupiers on this side well, i had a bridge; schemes committed by the russian army in the now de-occupied territories also managed to establish the identities of those russian soldiers who tried to recruit the local population and sought out

victims for the catives, as well as several fsb employees who managed them, a flash drive that the russian military left in one of the places of their deployment in balaklia when they fled , and judging by the contents, it probably belonged to one of the deputy commanders of the balaklia military group from the political work of forgetting the occupier, got into the hands of the schemes various documents, who was looking for future victims of those who disagreed with the occupation, and how to prove it , given that the russian troops in some places forgot their own when fleeing from balaklia, but they tried to destroy documents important to them, instructions, probably answers to these questions can be given by nikolai klimanov, a 46-year-old colonel from voronezh, deputy commander for military and political work of the 11th army corps of the russian federation, which is part of the informal grouping of the balaklia troops, we are reading one of the april lists submitted to the order courage is written about klimanov personally

organized interaction with local self-government bodies organized work with the local population to identify persons with a negative attitude towards military personnel of the armed forces of the russian federation, which made it possible to timely notify the units of the razvar in order to prevent the influence on the units of the armed forces. in the documents found on the flash drive , you can often see a mention of the balaklia group . commanded this group and is responsible for the atrocities committed by the soviets in balaklia from the beginning of the occupation of the city . major general andrii ruzynskyi signed the documents for awarding personnel officially, he is listed as the commander of the 11th corps of the baltic fleet, while on the spot he is the head of the informal balaklia group since may 18, georgians under

ukrainian sanctions as a participant in the war against ukraine in donbas. and the main intelligence agency calls him a war criminal and claims that the military is personally involved to the execution of an entire family during the azerbaijan -armenian conflict, the original flash drive forgotten by the russian occupiers is now in the department of the security service of the kharkiv region and is being studied within the criminal investigation proceedings well, just now, the journalist of the radio freedom-schema project valeriya yegoshina valeriya my congratulations. hello to his investigation , because based on the contents of the flash drive, we think that it belonged to the so-called zampolit, that is , the deputy commander of the 11th army corps of the baltic fleet from the political works and there were also lists

with the personal data of soldiers there were also all kinds of statements they made to each other and they were discussing something about the fact that someone had shot one of them and someone got drunk and stole a truck there, that is, a lot of such sensitive personal information, but we decided to concentrate on a possible investigation of alleged war crimes, but even personal information is ready-made evidence of the participation of these people in russia's war against ukraine, if this flash drive has already reached law enforcement officers first of all, in fact, even the information about their presence in ukraine is useful to us, secondly, we were particularly interested in the award lists, and their so-called exploits are described. what are the russians proud of in this flash drive?

for ukrainians is a war crime and what can be said about these russian soldiers who appear in your investigation, they are some very experienced personnel military elite , maybe the military of russia or vice versa, those whom we identified as theirs and in the end investigated exactly their actions, this is mostly they are also experienced military personnel. and it is very difficult to find information about them, since they are not commanders, but in principle you can study their so-called track record. yes , they represent something like that, but one of it seems to me that even now we are showing him on the screen. no, this is nikolay klimanov. i apologize, but one of them was an adviser to the so-called head of the so-called lpr, but he got into the 202nd regiment, this is the regiment

of the mobilization reserve, this is what the population often calls mobs interesting, ok, but you also spoke with civilians, with people who suffered, what torture methods did the russian military use in balaklia in relation to the local population , and what exactly was the goal, just to intimidate, just to have fun, or to force them to work for russia by force, you know, we talked, in fact, we are already in the schemes with several victims of several tortures . i personally do not understand the purpose, because, er, there is some kind of purpose, it seems to me that it simply does not exist, because , firstly, people are persecuted for different things, and secondly they demand different things. for example, the person we talked to in this story in canada did not leave him, they demanded his awards because he was a fighter of the ato, but he claims that he

has no awards, that he was confused with someone, so he was returned to the torture chamber only 4 times. they pulled out his teeth, beat him in the heart, kept him without food and without water, but they specifically wanted awards from him. he says that he did not have them. and another man with whom we talked, as he himself claims, he somehow transmitted data on the location of russian troops to unoccupied territory troops and he claims that they found out about it, they also broke his teeth, he could not eat for five days, but in the end a decision was made regarding him to be deported, he was simply taken to the outermost checkpoint from balaklia and they just threw him out there, what they wanted from him is difficult to say, valeria, but the gennady you mentioned didn't bucket the roosters in balaklia, but your editorial office just yesterday

reported that he died recently. unfortunately , in two months, it's like that. it's difficult for me, and if possible so to say, it is a touching story, because gennadiy led us around this city in the city, he told us everything that happened to him , he gave very valuable, as we believe, evidence and he was actually finishing with the customs, they talked for a few hours probably and he was finishing his conversation so that if i had not fled to the territory controlled by ukraine after the fourth time , you and i would not have met here today , that is, i would have been the mayor and we would have found out that he was like this , his health would not last two months after our interview, that is by the time this interview was aired, he was no longer alive, his body couldn't survive . perhaps, including the torture, so yesterday

they wrote to his son, dropped the plot and wrote to him that, well, we hope that this will somehow perpetuate the memory of him father and he yes, he also very touchingly thanked us for the fact that we still managed to record these testimonies. it is actually very, very difficult for a journalist to find out that people with whom you recently recorded interviews for your materials are dying . thank you very much. about the occupation of the city of balaklia well, at the very end, i want to remind you that tomorrow radio svoboda will broadcast live the speeches of volodymyr zelenskyi in the european parliament if everything goes according to plan and he will take place, and in order not to miss this performance , subscribe right now to the radio freedom channel on youtube, like this