[000:00:00;00] for me, as for a person who feels, well, acutely feels justice , who for the last nine years has devoted herself completely to the struggle for ukrainian independence, for our victory, of course, i also feel constant pain because of this, you know , it is unclear where, where, when it is necessary to speak, or maybe not publicly, but there is already a door knocking somewhere, of course we have so far, unfortunately, this full-scale invasion never happened , the anti-corruption system was not built, we did not have the changes that should have happened in order to prevent this this situation happened, unfortunately, we entered a difficult time and in such a history , not everyone in our country understood that, well, you can't steal

anymore. well, it's already a war, you can not fulfill your duties there, quality. so, i think that when it comes to that that no one is reacting, we really need to highlight these problems , but we need such a quick reaction so that the russian police force does not try to take advantage of this, we are being used so that we do not become weaker, i absolutely agree with this valeriy potsiluiko, adviser, city of good deeds of ukraine in 2014-21, he joined us. thank you, mr. valery. well, we would like to tell you, our dear viewers, that volodymyr zelenskyi 's speech will soon begin at the plenary session of the european parliament. you will actually hear from the first mouth right

away on the live air what our president will say in the european parliament, and in the meantime , the japanese intelligence has, so to speak, collected all the data from the consideration of the usa and europe, and a little clarified the diagnosis given to the russian army by british intelligence before that, which claimed that about 10 confirmed facts of the death of russian generals in almost a year of war, so in japan they believe that about two dozen russian generals died, they say that this is an unprecedented level for such a large of the army, for example, of the united states, there was no loss of a general, probably the last , it is not known how many 100 years. well, russia is about huge distances well, everything will change the supply of long-range missiles to ukraine. i think the rocket will go again, so that the generals will go to waste

. on the contrary, japanese intelligence collects information and makes it public in russia. about the state of health of vladimir putin, who told whom that he had cancer, who said that he had schizophrenia, who was joking about the fact that he was making some faces and that his hands were shaking suspiciously, he is something to people to do, although i don’t understand what they want to do there, systematize it somehow and then issue some kind of diagnosis to putin or something, or come to those who suddenly wrote about it, well, but the mind of russia and roskomnadzor have no idea and i hope that we will never understand them and let's not be on the same page with them , uh, well, but we, in addition to waiting for the broadcast from the plenary session of the european parliament, where volodymyr zelensky will speak, and espresso will

broadcast it in anticipation of this, we now have a guest in our studio, valery bozhik narodnyi the deputy of ukraine is joining our conversation, we are glad to welcome you, mr. larry, good morning to you, good morning, wait for this speech. of course, what do you think the president will say , i can't say verbatim what the president will say , but you know, probably the whole country is waiting for this speech because, well, this powerful the support of the european countries of the united states today and how they support us is also the merit of those who fight on the diplomatic front, those who organize this activity, this is directly the area of ​​responsibility of the president if we do not to ask if the president is effective in this direction, he is very effective. that is why we are all expecting, we are all hoping for support

. all european leaders will be there , according to the announcements, just like you, so are we . today, he will take part in a special summit of the european union and speak before the europarliament, almost a year passed such a certain taboo to cross the border to go to the european capital with president zelensky what has changed now in your opinion why this tour became possible is it a turning point the moment of the war or what it allows now, the situation inside the country, in particular at the front, it is a necessity, it is a necessity, i don't think that there were reasons before, well, let's say, not to leave, if it was necessary, i would leave now, at the moment of time, we see what everyone is saying about the possible escalation that russia is gathering strength and that

this year will be a turning point in the war, of course it must be a turning point. we need to communicate with them, and here the president is currently doing this work, our western partners are also keeping a good eye on not only how ukraine is fighting on the battlefield at the front, but also what is happening inside the walls of the parliament, what is happening in various ukrainian institutions and it is 100 percent that the scandal surrounding minister reznikov surrounding his resignation and then not resignation, but announced and then resignations, uh, this is also being monitored and the hearing of the people team maryana bezugla

, your colleague in particular also wrote that so far resignation is canceled or does it add and why in the end is this some kind of decision and d- a strange moment of the communication itself is that it very often happens to archamii well, you read it is true , that is, he very often announces things for which he , for example, well, there is no authority to announce , for example, there will be landings in the spring, ok, do you give me an arahamiya for this one, the prosecutor general , or is he the head of the supreme court? well, that is , how can we explain it? well, we can announce anything else if we start with the first part of your question , these corruption scandals. of course, this is shameful phenomenon i am ashamed, o representative of the authorities, that this is happening in our country, and international partners are also following it. and now on your broadcast, i watched the inclusion of our soldiers from the frontline of society, everyone can see it, of course , now we need to make quick decisions, that is, there is a history of corruption, there is no need to

explain later and somehow try to pull out this corruption story only eggs for 17 hryvnias are they worth the weight is the question of a quick investigation quick decision-making regarding the appointment well, of course, there was an announcement that the minister resigns, then when we looked deeper into the legislation, it became clear that in order to appoint a new minister, according to our standards, he must now be a civilian or a given military general, and in order to appoint a military general, he must be released from military service, but there are other laws that do not allows the release of a military man during military service, he remains in the reserve . therefore, the way out now is as follows. if we talk about the appointment of budanov to the post of minister of defense , then it is necessary to change the legislation that will allow a military man or him to leave the military service so that in the future there will be remarks about the fact that when uh-uh he is removed from the post of minister

reznikov for corruption, then why should he be appointed to some other ministry if that is already the case, the first is the second if he uh-uh normally communicates with partners abroad and already has such, well, almost friendly relations with some of them, and why change him to budanov when budanov, in principle, according to estimates, fulfills his role well in the position he is in, if you ask my personal impression, well, i can't make predictions some military, but in the end these personnel reshuffles, budanov is an effective group leader, very effective, the authority of the minister is a little different, this is the administrator, this is the economic part, this is international communications, how it will be unknown here and will depend on who comes to the main intelligence department, as for the different when really i know him as a professional person, a professional lawyer, but in this case you know well, there will be ramstein 14 and the minister is going

there for that, the question was asked correctly, and how should our western partners react, knowing that he has already retired within five minutes, yes, that is, there is some mistake on this, it is known, yes, yes, but he accuses, you know , as far as corruption is concerned, i am a lawyer. i would also like a signal for society, some kind of transparency, if accused of corruption, a quick investigation , the decision of the prosecution if it's purely some political moments or some such coal accusations, then admit it, defend him, tell him he's a good specialist, he continues to work, well, here you see what the matter is, well, first of all, one moment well, what about me it's surprising, well, to imagine. for example, i'm the head of the largest faction there and i say, i'm announcing that the minister of defense there will be fired

. and we'll replace him . does not do simply simply you have to have some minimal level of competence in order to basically announce such things especially since they are really sensitive absolutely in front of ramstein in front of the international ice , read you as a lawyer can tell mr. arkhami or maryani bezugli, i am his to my colleagues, that is, in our country, each deputy has relative independence, for example , to comment on the same social networks, of course, you cannot compare everyone and say that i absolutely agree here, but what concerns well, for example, making personnel decisions in such positions as the minister, it is not only a coup of deputies, it shows that in fact there is still some kind of discussion that is not being held in public, where there is , for example, arahamia, to say conventionally there, well , they are sitting over there for coffee, well, i don’t know what kind of conditionals yermak is, now all the names are made up, rahamia

someone else is there and they are saying well , let's fire well, let's fire the different ones well, what's up, i'm already saying to the arahami well , let's fire different ones because i was there with the big boys, please tell me who directly here, we'll say so, you are discussing these issues made such an assumption, the only thing i can say is that such decisions must be worked out you must have a clear list of actions algorithm what do we do the first submission for dismissal change the legislation read the law read the law i agree with you because these are your fractions, it somehow happens already in your faction, the discussion of the servants of the people is happening or not , the parliament is happening on what issues it is happening on which issues are considered necessary where the verkhovna rada makes decisions and voting is necessary, of course well, sometimes it is offline sometimes online when deputies are working now. you know that the verkhovna rada is not the same regime as it used to be. there are three weeks of session , one in each district. now we have worked for two

days. we vote next. we prepare the agenda. who works for friends. who deals with others? questions, some different food. he shows another important point , that is, directly to him, no one has any accusations against him specifically of any corrupt activities and so on, but there are some scandals where distinguished and were, for example, already suspended, dismissed, and so on, his deputies or heads of departments and here again the question arises as to how much the minister is the master of, for example , personnel decisions in his own ministries , because there is information that out of the nine deputies, one of the nine deputies is conditionally one deputy, and the others were simply imposed on him we remember similar scandals back in 14-15 years, when some people, for example, who changed their citizenship of the european union there in order to take part in the construction of ukraine , could not behave in response to what was imposed on them by some onlookers, conditionally speaking in the ministry, or does this mean

that a similar practice exists now, and to me, a lot of ministers in key ministries are not really free in their decisions and then forced to answer for the faults of others . an extremely important thing. i don't have reliable information about whether this happened in the ministry of defense and whether it happens in other ministries. well, in fact, i don't. i would prefer to operate with facts. you can make any assumptions, but i am sure of it. even if someone is imposed on someone, the zone responsibility is exclusively yours, then the question is for you as for the minister. well, you must understand that if you were imposed on and those people will not deal with the tasks that are assigned, then answer politically.

in the end, you will be no matter how good a professional you are, or you agree with me or you agree or not as it was in this case well, it is difficult for me to talk about it, i say again i do not reliably possess such facts however, i believe that if you are a manager and your area of ​​​​responsibility these deputies, as well as their actions, of course, what responsibility will you bear if you knew directly about the facts of embezzlement and in some way you were there in relation to them, so that’s one disability of responsibility if it wasn’t known but you should have controlled it well, that’s completely other than responsibility, then comes political responsibility, but in any civilized country in the world, this should happen like this. it looks like after the potter, well, hmm , the current cabinet of ministers from the very beginning had very limited independence , we now have a war and there is no doubt that some decisions need centralization, we consciously even understand that the parliament is limited to a certain extent now, we adopt only those laws

and decisions that are necessary for martial law, that is, that require the least the discussion in the hall with the least amount of discussion, we join one more of our interlocutors and volodymyr vyatrovych, the people's deputy of ukraine, joins us, volodymyr good morning, can you hear us and everything is fine and we can hear you too, volodymyr, we are talking about what volodymyr zelenskyy is now is with such a european tour eh and we are actually discussing that at that european tournament the president met with the leaders probably what these leaders also say and that we are accused of corruption here of the minister of defense and how it can also affect ukraine in addition to what we have now such historical events, in addition to the fact that volodymyr volodymyr zelenskyi is being received at buckingham palace, in addition to the fact that he will

speak at the european parliament, this is exactly the diplomatic activity of volodymyr zelenskyi, especially after the start of the authorized invasion of 2022 of his brilliant spoke in foreign parliaments in the united states of america yesterday in the british parliament, this is exactly what he should be thanked for, this is exactly what he says about his worthy performance of his role. unfortunately, if we are talking about internal politics , then the questions are much bigger. if we are talking about the personnel policy of president zelenskyi, then there are even more questions. we perfectly understand that he is a person who entered politics without being came the presidential services of the future in politics, it is obvious that he has a problem, there has always been a problem with the formation of his own team, but he forms a team from his immediate environment

for the most part. these are the people who, just like him they did not have any political or practical experience before, it is clear that these people change periodically , they change, in fact, there is quite a serious rotation in the executive branch, but it is not clear why they draw conclusions after these personnel mistakes, it is not clear why we, as a parliament, dismissing this or that minister, we never deserve , we do not deserve his report, it is clear why , these days, we elected a new leader of the security services, it is very good that we elected the head of the security service, because i think everything is completely unnatural that for six months when ukraine is at war, for six months ukraine does not have its head of the security service. but it is not clear why we do not know what the future fate of the previous head of the security service was he was released under a very strict article that actually borders on treason, that

is, it was not fulfilled because it led to important losses for ukraine, so it seems to me that this is an internal policy of some internal personnel issues unfortunately, they show that the situation has not fundamentally changed since the beginning of 2019, from the beginning when zelenskyi became the president, so again i will start and end with what he started with. i can thank the president for his foreign policy activities, which are really very necessary and very useful for ukraine many comments on domestic policy issues, there is such a difference between the president who represents our country externally and the president who works inside the country. i think the point is that despite all the difficulties, still represent the country, the more so, which is fighting, which has earned its authority through this struggle, confrontation with the aggressor, that's all. this gives

him a certain confidence, and it is this that opens the doors of buckingham palace and the congress of the united states of america, again , here are certain skills, professional skills of president zelenskyi, i mean even his acting skills, diplomatic work, on the other hand, internal work - it's always much more challenging, it's right here, uh , much more needed internal of some professional team, if again in the zone, he can still rely on a serious diplomatic team that has some diplomatic experience, you can help him, accordingly, internally. unfortunately , once again, the main criterion for him in selecting those other personnel is loyalty and loyalty and professionalism do not always coincide, often they do not coincide at all, and unfortunately, the situation does not change, that is, you wanted to believe that in three years, and even more so

after the beginning of a full-scale invasion of the approaches that the most important thing is that this or that politician is military, that they will go into the past, they are not going away unfortunately, i actually wanted to continue this topic with the topic of loyalty, professionalism , for example . in the law according to which you can be fired, this is not an operation, not an obligation, this is a right, in fact, and an obligation of the verkhovna rada, so before announcing the dismissal, it is different and its replacement will be given. that is, it is some kind of minimum only he, but in general all the spokesmen. last week, all the spokesmen from the party in power spoke calmly about the possibility of replacing the minister of defense with a construction project, despite the fact that there is a direct provision of the law that forbids it to be a person who has an army, who is a military person . they just showed and actually, when we move on to this principle, because

the mobilization of the country means, first of all, that all the people who can best do something for the country at the moment find themselves in those places where they best realize themselves regardless of who there believes in whom, who voted for whom there two years ago or three years ago. well, it seems to me that it should be quite obvious when this understanding will finally come and what else must happen for this. well, there, but i see that this understanding is already comes even if we are discussing this today, it is obvious that in the future such mistakes should not be repeated today, you are really right, it is a country of underpolitics today. the country should be as united and mobilized as possible, and if someone works professionally in medicine, someone professionally military, someone specialized in jurisprudence, he must do those things that depend on him as correctly

and as clearly as possible, because everyone is in his place - this is a part of our success and a part of the fact that we have preserved our state. it is extremely important , but i learned that, for example, do you remember there was a time when the leadership of the public vamnik of the public had major political confrontations with president poroshenko and also blamed groysman and poroshenko's government for the fact that because of that they don't like him, they underfinance them by half, but they found out that, for example, the public sector is now financed by a third. in general, this is happening against the background of the fact that some companies that are called somewhere there are close-minded, effeminate, there is a very former head of one of the deputies there the leader of tymoshenko receives 100 or so million hryvnias each, funding for some entertainment projects and so on, the huge

budget of the tv channel, the council, what does it do anything except coverage of parliamentary actual activity, that is, there is some problem. it seems to me that they are doing the same with this funding, why not transfer this funding to the public itself, for example, in this case, and on its basis build this national narrative, uh, there are national channels, so when i see nastya i slandered my former colleague , for example , in the morning, who is now a super-patriot. well, i'm a little bit embarrassed. you know by photos when we even discussed changes to the budget and there were proposed funds to be allocated certain uh very large billions exactly some such things well , personally in this way the deputy can regurgitate on this probably not vote for it probably

in some way to express his public position well and the role of the mass media despite the fact that today there is a war in the country and again, you also feel that somewhere there are some frameworks that can be covered that no, this is objective, but you understand. if it continues, for example, there are things in the country we don't know any such corruption scandals, so if the mass media didn't pull it out, they would have become known later and maybe the scale would have been different. that's why it would only be worse here, it's worse, that's why the question is also about what you say that we don't say everything and considering on the fact that we are now in a time of war, but we are, for example, like the espresso tv channels, never three times i contacted reshnikov before publishing this about those premature eggs for uah 17 three times and a mirror journalist two weeks of football so-so-so- yes,

volodymyr, you very rightly noted that mobilization is when the state calls for help in its ranks all those who can be professional. unfortunately, in this sense, mobilization is not happening to the full now, and i can say this about you, for example, here are you two in the studio, professional journalists who do not have the opportunity to work to the fullest extent for the benefit of the state, because unfortunately you work in a tv channel that someone wanted to exclude because of the fact that it is considered that this tv channel is oppositional, despite the fact that this tv channel has been giving the opposition from the beginning of the full-scale invasion and still works for the common good, as a representative of the opposition party, on the one hand, i still consider myself a professional in a certain informational and historical field, i also do not think that i am fully involved in this work, which i could do more.

that in these issues of some kind of informational work , er , he does not perform the area he sowed for me in a high quality way. simply, no one, instead, again , the very strange characters you mentioned er, appear on the same tv channels precisely because they are simply loyal e-e speaking of social literally yesterday, we had an interesting, very good meeting at the social , and it seems to me that what we heard inspires a certain hope that the social has serious prospects for growth and prospects for growth, but these prospects can really be easily crossed out by the fact that er with- and further- in the future cut the budget for er public now truly public has a budget of only a third of what it has these prospects can be further cut when instead of public to essentially finance quasi state television in the form of tv channel rada in the form of tv channels dom and freedom, which perform very strange functions in my opinion and are very far from really

somehow mobilizing ukrainians around defense against russian aggression . it seems wrong to me that the public has become part of this marathon the only news , in fact, it seems to me that participation in this marathon essentially destroys the very idea of ​​public, which should be, in fact, outside of politics, outside of the party by some influence, and it tries to maintain such a format, but being integrated into the national marathon , the only news, which is already openly partisan, is well, it is difficult for the public to protect itself from this excessive politicization , so unfortunately, once again, it is necessary to say that it is very rational in ukraine to use this potential, the information boarding house , the potential of personnel, the potential that ukrainians have. it's a pity, we can't. it's because of the fear of the state leadership that even if these people are professional, they are not loyal enough

, so it's better to stick to his side, mr. valery , but all media experts are already talking about what it's time for the only one this one marathon or marathon the only news that it's time to stop it and it's time to talk a little about what topics we should talk about despite the fact that we have a full-scale invasion but it already seems everyone understands that what information can harm the country and what action what is it? we want to have an official confirmation of our membership in the european union in the 24th year. this is a fact to me. now you can see that sydorenko did with the ukrainian truth with the european truth. we have 69 points, which is less than for example, in montenegro, in macedonia, in albania, we have a lot less work, a lot of work, a lot of reforms that we cannot rewrite at the end of the war, if we took the 24th year , we literally have a minute to answer what can be done in this direction. well, i think that here is

just right as far as i remember, even our international partners are also hinting and directly talking about the fact that this approach needs to be changed, and here we need to knock and convey to you from this side the need to change the format. and we, accordingly, what thank you for this conversation. we also thank volodymyr vyatrovych and valery bozhik, the people's deputy who took part in our conversation in this discussion today. i am very glad that espresso can be a platform and that deputies from the private faction also come to us . thank you very much for that too. yes we are waiting for the speech of volodymyr zelenskyi at the plenary session of the european parliament and espresso will broadcast it well, now is the time for news angelika sezonko already has a selection of everything that happened in the last hour and will announce it