tv [untitled] February 9, 2023 1:00pm-1:31pm EET
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[000:00:00;00] and the master's degree in psychology is about how to experience separation ah during the war with the family. maybe you have some short advice for all women and families who are waiting for defenders defenders questions i want to tell you regardless of a woman but that a man or a child believe because exactly faith holds on to these. if we believe, believe in victory, then help . as my son said, whatever you do, donate , go to rallies, distract yourself, support each other, we will definitely win and there is no room for worry. thank you very much, iryna nechay and her son serhiy were the heroes of my today's refugee program with anzhelika sezonenko i wish ira a naturally easy and successful
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childbirth and the return of this family to the motherland and the reunification of the whole family, of course well, then serhiy rudenko and the verdict program stay with the press anzhelika literally in a few seconds we are starting the vered program glory to ukraine, this is a verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko . good day and good health to all. today is february 9, 351 days of the heroic resistance of the ukrainian people to the russian occupiers. russian troops have launched an offensive in luhansk region, the american institute for the study of war reports. the morning of the war began with battles on the northern flank. meanwhile, president zelenskyi is in brussels, where he has already spoken before the european parliament. we know that yesterday he visited london and paris, where he had
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meetings with the heads of states great britain, france and germany , meanwhile, the russian army continues to lose manpower and equipment in ukraine. as of the morning of february 9, russia has already lost 135,000 people in ukraine in the last day alone. the forces of ukraine destroyed 910 orks at the beginning of the great war, but the russians already have 3255 tanks, 6468 armored fighting vehicles, 2244 artillery systems, 463 multiple-launch rocket systems , 232 air defense systems, 295 aircraft, 285 helicopters, 5121 units of automotive equipment, 18 boats , boats, 796 cruise missiles, 1967 drones, and 211 special units. techniques zelensky conquers europe holds talks with
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the heads of european countries and with members of the european parliament ukraine is waiting for planes and tanks poland names russia a terrorist country , we will talk about this and other things in the next hour, i want to introduce today's guest - he is a politician, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 2014-2019, pavlo klimkin, mr. pavlo, good day, good health to you, and thank you for joining our broadcast. greetings to everyone division will play with you mutually, mr. pavly . so volodymyr zelenskyy yesterday started a big european tour, a big
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one. we see, but zelenskyi's visit to europe continues today, the president of ukraine spoke in the european parliament, he expressed his gratitude to the current leaders of european countries who provide unprecedented support to ukraine. well , of course, zelenskyi talked about the fact that the current lower europe is finally freed from the destructive dependence on russian fossil fuels, europe is being cleansed of corruption influence of russian oligarchic business europe defends itself against filtering by agents of the russian special services, let's hear what zelensky said today in the european parliament was considered impossible by the previous wave of leaders europe is finally freed from the destructive dependence on russian fossil fuels europe is being cleansed of the corrupting influence of russian oligarchic business europe is protecting itself from the infiltration of agents
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of the russian special services who even considered europe as a place to hunt opponents of the russian dictatorship for the first time in its history the european union provides military aid of this scale and, for the first time in history, prepares, i believe, a positive assessment of internal reforms in a european country that is defending itself in this total war and at the same time modernizing its institutions by fighting, we are getting closer to the european union, ukraine will be a member of the european union, ukraine, what is ukraine that is winning, a member of the european union, what is winning , so, pavlo, let's start with the interim results of volodymyr zelenskyi's european tour. what is happening and happened yesterday and today
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is the completion of the formation of the anti-putin coalition, and a rather powerful putin coalition, so that the main accents in the policy of this coalition are now being set, the coalition is already it is formed and i see that it will not go anywhere. how did you start the conversation today ? pipeline of oil or gas , it is going. we also see that some leaders
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of european countries, for example, viktor gorba , even want to exclude russian oligarchs from the sanctions list, i do not think that urban really hopes that they are hurting are excluded, but he wants to show that he is still unique and seemingly independent in the european game, it is clear that he will use this for his game but nevertheless, the coalition is clearly already there, and that is why zelensky's address was about the fact that there is no separate ukrainian-russian war and that russia has actually become anti-european , that putin's regime threatens the european way of life, that is, the threat exists for everyone regardless of who he is and what he
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does in europe and around this threat we need to unite, no matter what it is, and that's why the appeal is actually for everyone, and i think it's very important, as well as this tour, because there was a visit to the states, now it's very important to support the emotion in the european direction, according to various estimates, we have already received more than 120 billion dollars almost half of europe in terms of weapons, of course, the united states is the unequivocal leader number one and will remain so, but in general, europe is critical and important, and in this sense, this tour is also politically important, and i believe that the main assessments are actually a joint strategy.
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a strategy with the west, a joint strategy with the european union. it should be in terms of weapons, financial support, and the further isolation of russia, and all these directions should be combined into one, but in fact, this tour is about it , about these key goals. let's talk about the visit. zelenskyi to great britain yesterday he spoke to the british parliament and said literally the following: we have freedom , please give us wings to protect it , a pilot's helmet with this inscription was presented by volodymyr zelenskyi to the speaker of the british parliament the president thanked the british people and the government, and in particular resi sunak and boris johnson for the strong support of ukraine and the ukrainian people, let's see how it all turned out . i believe that this symbol will help us in our next coalition of airplanes and i am addressing you and the world with simple but most important words for
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ukraine needs fighter jets for freedom , wings are needed for ukraine, it seems that this call for freedom needs wings and ukraine needs fighter jets, uh, in britain, they still heard, judging by the decision of sunaki volodymyr zelenskyi, they flew on the airbase where ukrainian pilots are trained and britain can become the first country to provide ukraine with its fighter jets as far as possible and to what extent britain can ask tons here in this situation because we know that literally 10 days ago when the president of the united states of america joseph biden was asked whether the americans are ready to provide the ukrainians with f-16s, he briefly answered no, if britain decides to transfer fighter jets to ukraine, how much will this affect
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the general international tone and further the transfer of fighter jets by other countries, for the first time, the answer to it did not mean no, never, no, on the very day when he was asked precisely for the strategy and tactics of providing weapons, and this is obviously the opinion of many who are in the pentagon, where the department and in the council the national security of the states is working on this, it is not in any way. no, in the future, the second moment is the provision of aircraft. this is currently the number one priority, because there are talks about what kind of long-range weapons will be provided to us. this signal is also went from
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conversations of volodymyr zelenskyi in london, and there it is clear that it could be cruise missiles and new modifications unfortunately and unfortunately , we have lost contact with pavel klimkin and i hope that now we will refuse this connection, well, we know that yesterday volodymyr zelenskyi after his visit to london, he said that ukraine had agreed with britain on the supply of long-range weapons, and i am told that pavlo klimkin is already on the phone again, give me the connection, mr. pavlo, it is so unstable, please, long-range weapons are being discussed, it is airplanes, it is very symbolic a step forward and i think that the decision of the politicians and the discussion about the planes means that actually everything is possible and yesterday the prime minister of great britain said nothing, in fact we do not rule out
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absolutely everything is possible and this is a very encouraging signal and we remember the history of when japan in the 30- x years ago, the americans attacked china , the americans began to train pilots there, but it was too late. we also remember when nazi germany attacked france, the americans began to train pilots, but it was also too late, and here we do not need to waste time. drive and lose emotion and start distant such complex strategic conversations, we have to start preparing for this well, actually, the day before yesterday, but at least today, i mean technical and logistical support and training of pilots and the third decision-making
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to fly, well, literally in the foreseeable future and by the way, this not only increases our military power. it is a very powerful message for putin that the west will not stop for no reason. that is what biden said the day before yesterday in an interview. to some, this phrase seems too simple. and they absolutely understood that putin lost ukraine, in fact, this is a phrase, this is a statement, if you will, a fixation on languages and the political status quo means that everything that has been happening since the 1990s, when part of the zone of soviet influence came to where it actually belonged to the west, is now expanding to ukraine and the united states and the west
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in this way, we are seen as a fundamental and integral part of the west and what does this mean that the history of ukraine should be a success story because many speculated that they invested in afghanistan, but many did not succeeded, but nobody ever considered afghanistan a part of the event, i.e., this message of biden is still a foreign world, and this is exactly the message that volodymyr zelenskyy is achieving today in europe. the pressure inside the west is also increasing now and i see how it will increase in countries that were very cautious about the supply of tanks and we all worked on this for a long time, but i
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also see in germany when they say that it may not be today, but we do not exclude anything that is, this in fact, biden's answer is that the tone of the west has changed and the west's fears of putin are no longer the same as they were a few months ago , and the west will not give up its strategy of a thousand passes, and this strategy of having much deeper and much more painful consequences is absolutely clear, as i said , zelenskyy said yesterday that ukraine has agreed with britain on the supply of long-range weapons, so far there are no details of these agreements, but we know that britain has a large arsenal-racket capable of hitting targets at a distance of several hundred kilometers, this is a harpoon that flies 240 km, a scalpel that hits targets up to 400
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km, and a spear that gives and gets to the body 140 km, but all these uh, all these platforms and all these missiles are located on air or sea platforms, well, of course, they have such system, if we are talking about such heavy weapons, long-range weapons, which ukraine will receive in the short term, how much will it affect the french and germans in this situation ? in europe despite the fact that they are located outside the european union, which i understand p. sergey, your friendly trolling towards them. i congratulated them and they will probably be very satisfied with this, but you did not count one more type of weapon that is being discussed, and this is not an absolute
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secret. navar is a development that can achieve both tactical and strategic goals of the harpoon. there are older modifications and there are newer modifications. so i really hope that yesterday’s conversation with zelenskyi with sumnak ended in an understanding not just what we will get, since this is important in itself. and when exactly it will be received, that is, i am absolutely sure that there is just such a quantum leap forward, and your second question is so definitely. they say yes, this is what we are already doing, but the next step is still a taboo for us. and here it is, in fact. also, it will be
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under the influence of the british decision , are you afraid that they will rule? i think it is still more correct to say that the west rules west street very correct. and if we define one leader in the west, it is definitely the americans, and i do not in any way want to provoke my british friends there, they are very cool, they are starting the assembly, this is johnson's assembly , they have done a lot and shown a lot of leadership precisely at a critical moment when we it was necessary, but in the end, all critical decisions on weapons, such as tanks , such as airplanes, such as long-range weapons, they will not be taken without the americans and will not be taken, they are an integral part
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of any strategic decisions and this is actually er, very, very correct. by the way, yesterday the guardian wrote about the fact that the decisions of sunak and boresh johnson are also trying to get under this stardust of volodymyr zelenskyi. well, you must have read this er article, or at least the quote , at least it is popular in the last day in our media the west is very actively coming under the wing of this stardust of volodymyr zelensky as the leader of a country that is at war with the russian federation, everyone is trying so hard to be closer to him now, and the fact that he is a member of the parliament we have seen how his met in the same way as in the congress of the united states of america at the end of december when he spoke, that is, the entire event is trying to be close to the future winner or the leader of the country that will
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defeat the russian federation. that we saw some kind of waiting during the last years of the last year there , the first six months, or maybe the first three months , how long was the great war of russia against ukraine, then we already saw how the west began to slowly move from some small help, well, small, such linguistic, small, to more serious, that is, what has changed, why did the west begin to change its rhetoric , this is after zelenskyi’s visit to the united states of america, let me remind you that this was zelenskyi’s first visit abroad during the war, at the end of december 2022, the americans are at the helm or not, the americans are definitely in charge, and it ’s cool, if biden and the american administration
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decided for themselves that they should and could be a leader from the first days of the war, then it actually worked and united the west. i want to remind everyone that in the west there was and still is unfortunately a fundamental lack of leadership and that the collective west eventually appeared thanks to us thanks to our resistance and thanks to our war and this is also a fact americans played a prominent prominent role in the formation of this particular collective measure, people are now puzzling over this not only in the kremlin , in fact in beijing, they are puzzling in many other capitals, but the collective measure is united not only by declarations of values, but also together oh, and
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in this sense, defeating the putin regime is a fact of history is already a fact of today's politics, and it is also perfectly clear to us that in addition to the lack of leadership in the west , there were also fundamental features of a lack of strategic vision, many did not see what the putin regime was developing into, we also saw the northern streams and saw the desire to receive russian energy carriers at a discount, we also saw the desire that russian russia and russian campaigns really buy a part of the western establishment and saw the desire to turn a blind eye to it, and we should also talk about it in the same way volodymyr zelenskyi to the european parliament today is still the west, at least europe has not yet gone through the stage of understanding what happened, why did we come to where
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we are with russian revanchism , we still critically need work on mistakes, but what we are helping the west if do you want to fill this vacuum of leadership, fill the vacuum of speed, fill the vacuum, the desire to go forward, no matter what it costs , the actual vacuum of optimism, here we are, you and i started with this, it also really works very, very well. the transformative role of our war for the world and for the west in particular, and what we are today, although informal for now, is already obviously part of the west and a history
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of success will be built around us, this is already a question. for the coming years, so we also give a lot to the west , and this is not only protection, it is also the desire to look at ourselves in the mirror or in the mirrors around and understand that the west of the 21st century cannot live and feel as in the 20th century, it is time it's not just time to change, it's time to understand that new challenges require nervous leadership and a new strategic vision, the same thing that 's happening in ukraine, in ukraine, ukrainians are leading and showing the world, because well, we have to agree that this leadership that zelensky is currently demonstrating in europe is obvious . it would was not so powerful and would
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not have been perceived in the same way in the world and in europe if zelensky had not had a powerful ukrainian people fighting for their freedom, because what ukrainians are showing all over the world and what ukrainians are now demonstrating together as a group of the whole society, it deserves the applause for the respect with which the leader of the ukrainian state is met in britain and in france and today in the european parliament. from the parliament, thanking you in advance for the powerful british planes well, yes, in advance , zelensky thanked you for the british planes, uh , sunak decided, and asked ben vulytsia, this is the minister of defense of great britain, to study the question of what planes ukraine needs, this is the skuse office
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of the prime minister at 10 downing street in london, after that zelensky flew to paris, where he had a meeting with french president manuel macron and german federal chancellor olaf scholz. macron said that ukraine can continue to count on france and european partners in the fight against russian the aggressor, we will see how it was . ukraine can count on france , european partners, allies to win this war, russia cannot and should not win it, and as long as russia continues to attack, we will continue to adapt to change and reconstruct the military support that ukraine needs in order for it to defend itself and its future, we will continue to deliver defense and military military equipment in accordance with the urgent needs of ukraine in the last week, we will always act in coordination
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between partners and allies mr. pavla macron very long at the beginning of the great war in russia against ukraine , i tried to understand putin and these memes went around. of bitter irony that macron is trying to agree on something with putin and putin is just mad at football. roughly speaking, what kind of macron do you see now and what kind of france do we see now during the last 11 months of the great war between russia against ukraine and france, not as we would like i wanted to understand the position of macron and shultz in particular, who want to keep
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the possibility of maintaining contact with putin , all of which i still do not see. it is impossible to be putin, that there will no longer be any conversation on putin's terms, but biden, in fact , said it very, very clearly a couple of days ago, and i think that for macaroni and for schultz to stick to their own line of collective action , which is now taking its final form, that politics has changed the new status quo, that ukraine is part of the west, that this is a question. there are no geopolitical benefits from which
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you can profit economically or politically , this is also a question of value, and this is a question of understanding for the west what it is, and this means that as you can see, macron stopped saying let's save putin's face. he says yes, i will continue to talk to putin, but here are all the phrases that uh, annoyed not only us, uh, half the world, what, let's save face , let's understand, let's do something like that for ourselves i am absolutely sure that in the future the macrons also want to bring the situation to the point of holding negotiations with putin, but for us the key
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