[000:00:00;00] politically, this is also a question of value and this is a question of understanding for the west what is cool about him. and this means that, as you can see, macron has stopped saying that let's save putin's face . he says yes, i will continue to talk with putin , but here are all these phrases that were annoying only us, uh, half the world, what, let's save face, let's understand , let's do something like that to ourselves, or her for macron's lexicon , after all , lately they have left. negotiations with putin, but for us the key change

is that you say that this conversation cannot proceed from the capitulation conditions that putin put forward from the very beginning and that we must set the conditions, that is, the collective measure to which , as i have already said, ukraine belongs today , but this is unambiguous a change that is not final yet, but a change in macron's attitude to reality, and we see that he also began to believe more in ukraine and ukrainians, he understands that despite the challenges, despite the challenges of winter, despite the blows to our critical infrastructure ukrainians are becoming just as ready to resist nothing has changed in our feelings and in our feeling and this also actually changes the position of macron and that this friends we work live on

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refers to its sources. we don't know what happened behind the scenes, but we can see how volodymyr zelenskyy at a tripartite meeting in paris thanked his colleagues for their support and once again emphasized that ukraine needs long-range weapons and modern aircraft for the return of europe to a secure world. let's see how it was in france . germany has the potential of game crangers and this is exactly how i see our negotiations today, everything is obvious the sooner ukraine can get a powerful long-range weapon emmanuel or the sooner our pilots can get modern planes olaf, will our tank coalition be stronger? i am grateful to you for starting this path, and the sooner this russian aggression will end and we

will return europe to secure peace. well, olaf also assured ukraine of his support and emphasized that the help will last as long as it will. we need to hear from the beginning of this terrible war europe and the transatlantic allies not only supported ukraine, but together with partners we also supported ukraine in various plans and financial and humanitarian and also in terms of military aid in the last direction it was the strengthening of missile defense ppot, but also the supply of tanks, and this is the help , as president macron emphasized, it will simply continue as long as it is necessary, so there is an assurance from macron from

scholz from sunaki from biden or not too late these weapons can come to ukraine mr. pavlo what can russia beat us with its resource potential, we know that they have a lot of weapons in their reserves, although they are old, but there are also the number of people in the army, they increase it every time, or whether it is not too late to run no longer create problems to receive in real time. of course, it is possible and we understand this very well. that is why the very fact that there is a solution for the scs ice and there is a solution for armored vehicles. and that a solution is being discussed regarding long-range weapons. also, according to my data, there is progress, and

it is already planes there is no taboo, as before, everything is fine, but we also perfectly understand that by solutions it is training, it is the creation of technical capabilities, it is the creation of supply , service, logistics and many other things, and in some moments we can simultaneously use all possible weapons, this one would also play grenade launchers well, actually, tanks in many areas with airplanes are of course more difficult and we need to have one or two key models. we also understand the capabilities of our radiologists. we also understand that, for example, f 16 american or, by the way , swedish griffins would be the best for today, although the planes we are 100%. even 101 percent, we will use it

very, very effectively, but here is your program, it is actually called to love and what and this macron although late, they also issued their lex in relation to putin, they finally understood his mentality and i think that they were wrong about many things at the beginning, they understood the nature of this regime and perfectly understand that in the end what i said is that you need to talk to the putin regime from a position of strength and in no other way. and this in in turn, this means that there should be no taboos regarding the supply of weapons , and in fact the formula should be very simple, all that is needed except for nuclear weapons is that , in principle, there is nothing to be excluded even from

the latest links of weapons. we are fine we understand that russia has very, very much junk and there are also stocks from soviet times. but we have fundamental advantages from which we can and should take advantage of this, first of all, this emotion, fighting spirit, but also the help of our allies and western weapons, and in the end, the understanding that we are fighting for ourselves, they are fighting for some goal, which they do not really understand and cannot even formulate it for themselves, even russian nationalists have now started to talk about what exactly we are fighting for in ukraine, what is our goal, who formulates it, not us, and in general, what the image of the future for today's russian empire, call it whatever you want, or

the russian regime, and so once again answering your question, putin cannot beat us in any way and will create additional problems. this is absolutely critical . putin's press secretary piskovka says that the possible provision of fighter jets to kyiv by london will only prolong the conflict, make it more painful for kyiv , it will not affect the russian federation's achievement of its goals, said piskov over the past few days, or rather a week, this topic has been quite actively torpedoed there, how will the russian-ukrainian war end, this korean option was mentioned when the two koreas were divided by the 38th parallel, and when the adviser in the office of the president of ukraine oleksiy arestovych spoke about it

what is a possible option when we are forced to accept this model of a peace agreement when a part of ukraine is, so to speak, divided along the 38th parallel, but i don't know what the parallel is now, well, at least on the territory of not those of the regions of ukraine that russia seems to have adopted, oleksiy danilov says that this is impossible . the secretary of the national security and defense council says that any analogy there with the korean option or with other options is not appropriate at all, because ukraine's victory over russia will only be when ukraine will return all its territories to itself. medvedev came out again with his conclusion that we will use more powerful weapons there if the ukrainians attack crimea, well, that is, again

after the 10th round, he will lose this record by in your opinion, what is the most possible scenario of the development of events, and is part of the west leaning towards some such conditional korean option, according to which russia will leave something like this to itself first? i believe that war may be in different forms and, or better to say, confrontation with russia will be for the time being the russian regime will be in power, at least we do not know what the next russian regime will be like, who will be in power personally or who will keep this regime, but while this regime is in power, we definitely cannot have peace

, there may be some pauses in the termination of agreements of fire and many other possible scenarios, but i don't see a peace agreement with putin, because he wants to either destroy us or have in fact no other options for his protectorates, and since 2003, when you remember, there was the idea of ​​that third-party concert, we would withdraw, but in fact the desire to snatch away our the gas transportation system and at the same time the so-called common economic space . and this is actually economic slavery. when it didn’t work out , tuzla went, then in 2004, the orange evolution and the subsequent history are absolutely known to all of us, and at least since 2003, putin had as

uh, not just your strategy, but your mission of destruction and statehood of ukraine, that's why i don't believe in any peace agreement with putin. i just don't see it politically, but actually from a political or moral point of view, as far as the korean model is concerned. by the way, your colleagues american and german recently she also asked uh about this so the topic is really discussed and it must be recognized i will remind those who watch us what the korean model really is since we use these words very often not remembering the history of the korean model is the result of the war on the korean peninsula when on the one hand

the coalition of western countries helped -e on the guardians of values ​​and actually the good, they just walk knee-deep in water with weapons and tools and it was on the other side there were the soviets and the air force and others also er very actively helped the chinese ukrainian socialist regime. by the way, i was there on the lines of democracy and the whole center of the korean model is that on the one hand the chinese were present as security guarantors at first while the crimean regime was developing, in fact on the other hand there were the americans

. the world was united and in general the korean model with a temporary demarcation maybe when you have two sides physically, i emphasize that different forces are physically present, i am absolutely sure of our formal accession to nato, but the biggest model eh i absolutely do not believe that it will be possible to stabilize any country, even if it is possible, honestly, the west understands this perfectly. he perfectly understands that inna, as a success story, as a stable country, can

not just defend itself, understand what our option is, and what is the statehood of the son of the west, it simply cannot accept such line, and the second option is also completely clear, you see recently that the west is very consistent in putting pressure on russia and it is not only the supply of weapons that we have been talking about for a long time, this is not an example from the fifth introduction and restrictions and restrictions in their e-e costs from the state budget has increased by exactly two times, and this is two for the russian economy, which is created by our war, where is the budget actually

limited, whether it is from oil products or from income from imports, if you look at it , it also means that the deficit of the state budget is insane, if this continues for another month, and what is it way can change only if there is a jump in the mood in the gulf and i think that the kremlin is already working on it there on some provocations that will allow the price of the element to increase in the interests of china and china india should not go in this direction. and here , too, the russian regime will absolutely see how all this pressure will be taken by the russian regime. i believe that for today the western line is a controlled

reset, american official factors, they claim that they do not have a goal rebooting russia, but it is actually real to put russia in a situation where the e-e regime has to give up its goals and occupy the absolute geopolitical status quo of others - this is the goal of the collective measure, since today the russian regime is a danger for everyone, for us, for europe, for the states, for anyone, and it needs to be curbed otherwise, how will we live on this planet, that is, our task is global and our war will have a transforming effect on everything, on geopolitics, on the future security architecture , but russia is definitely not in it will play some kind of leading violin, it will not be played

, it is also understandable because it is too dangerous to let it play any role at all, therefore the combination of the military factor with the combination of the economic factor will definitely turn their heads for us of course, i would like it to happen today, because it was yesterday, but it will happen in the long run, i just see it. and i , for example, would not even rule out the collapse of the russian economic system at some point if it continues like this, the editor tells me there is a video where urban did not want to applaud zelensky

zelensky stood next to him right now, let's watch a small video. well, here it is . this is the story that happened. needs to be commented on is that putin himself made the decision to hand over the book anti-aircraft missile complex, which was used to shoot down flight mh17 in donbas, this is a statement of the joint investigative commission, one of the sources claims that russian officials discussed on the phone, and the decision to provide the book complex was left to the president of the russian federation, but the prosecutor digna vam e budeler says at the same time that putin, as the head of state, has legal immunity and cannot be prosecuted, this will be possible only after he leaves his position, the question is about responsibility and about this immunity and, in general, can he

appear before an international tribunal even before he leaves his life and office. to be in a situation well, most likely not, can he be in a situation for the rest of his life, we all hope with all our hearts that it is so and there were a lot of conversations about the serbian leaders there . do you remember milošev in particular? is there any way to avoid all of this but none the less justice. she can be late, but she usually gets it. i am absolutely sure that putin is worried about this, but it worries the russian

elites even more. i know that among at least many of them there is such hysteria about what we will do next. and who is responsible? and how will they get us, and how in general with our assets in the west, will we even be allowed to go to the west? and will we ever see this event, but we will either be somewhere around moscow, and it is still unknown with what degree of security we will exist , and this all sits deep enough in the heads and more and more comes in and i am absolutely sure that the release of this tape about putin's conversation and just let it be absolutely not accidental, it is also a normal part of the investigation, but it is also an element of additional pressure on putin, when

they point fingers at him and say putin, in fact, we know who you are, we know what are you guilty of, but we don't just declare it political, well, we already show you part of the evidence and if you continue to do what you are doing, we will find evidence for everything else and this is actually a story that will absolutely not happen to you and this if you want elements that are absolutely deliberately rigid and in no way covered up by putin's vandalism from the side of the west, and when we say that at first the west was surrounded by these fears in relation to the putin regime, and now he lives as he says here are tanks in ukraine, and here are long-range weapons, and here is a film where putin

is actually a criminal because of the evidence of his conversation, and here we are cutting off russia from oil markets. that is, it is already a completely understandable complex story that says that the west has gone through a certain internal line is not a red line in the sense of some kind of maneuver, but some kind of psychological line, when the west stopped being afraid of putin and what will happen after putin, somewhere at the level of the subconscious, it is already such a consciously cautious line. nevertheless , the west is already starting to try to develop a strategy that what to do with putin and what to do after putin, why am i asking this because i remember how osama bin laden ended and, in principle, always during this

restless and terrible year, the question arises why why the west can not put an end to he put an end to ben ladena itself. i think that this question is not only a political decision, it is also a question of precedent , it is a question of what justice should be, whether it should be carried out by examples in the court or , as in relation to bilang, it is also a question in general whether the west can afford it with the points of view that can be fulfilled here are actually not dozens, but hundreds of questions and you can point them out to someone endlessly. but i think that

it is not only about putin. the war, well, in the end, we will somehow transfer the power in russia to someone else, er, putin has been deprived of power, and we will somehow communicate and cooperate with this russia again, and when he tells them that it is alive, what about the russians, who mostly support this war, what about where putinization is more likely to hold and since without a hairstyle and this regime will always have endless outbreaks and relapses and this is a very dangerous story and i tell everyone that putin is directly responsible so his role is absolutely clear but we have to defeat not only putin personally, we have to defeat this regime , and this is precisely our common strategy, as a matter of fact, as

a democratic society, to defeat this one , which is criminal, dangerous for everyone, it is not only about putin. thank you, mr. pavlo, for the conversation. it was pavlo klimkin politician diplomat minister of foreign affairs of ukraine in 14-17 in the 19-ies give yes eh i wish you good health mr. pavlo friends please if you are now watching us on social networks , please like this video read our news on the espresso tv website well, you can become a sponsor of our youtube channel, now we will show you the details of the youtube channel and how you can do it, that is , under this video there is a description of how to become a sponsor of the youtube channel and there are qr codes you can see on your screens now join our sponsors, your help will help us, donate for tautology to develop our youtube channel

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