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[000:00:00;00] they are publicly trying to hang everything well, as for the verkhovna rada of ukraine, how will the resolution of the verkhovna rada be, it will be more difficult to do it, and they will return it, that is, if i say that in our country, the cabinet of ministers is forming such a thing with the support of deputies, but it is more about parliament, i was a little in politics and for one decision at that is, in fact, it is easier otherwise not to touch it , it ’s just money, the euro, the west and the european union are american for everything except for social payments and military experts. the budget and, of course, the budget from ukraine, extraordinary events, extraordinary formats, we are on the air again with a special edition. my name is hryhoriy zhigalovmy live from london
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, but today the focus is mainly on brussels , the political capital of europe, where president zelensky continues his unexpected big tour, but before we talk about brussels , i will tell you about the results of the meeting in paris is another stop for zelenskyi. where he held a meeting with two heavyweights of europe, macron, all together at the same table. zelenskyi is received by the leaders of all the countries of the european union, a special eu summit has begun before that, a speech in the european parliament, but what else but words. let's tell her london, the political beau monde and experts are all recovering from a sudden and unexpected visit that broke traditions and seems to have started new ones. let's listen to the points of view from that side. so, the special summit
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of the european union leaders of all eu countries , presidents, prime ministers, chancellors and the president of ukraine, as a special guest, we will talk about it right now. the leaders have gathered in the palace of europe, er, that's where zelensky spoke that he will discuss with the leaders of the european union whether the provision of long-range missiles and combat aircraft to ukraine worked, but we will start with the events of the previous night and from paris , the london story of the previous day was actually repeated there, with the only difference that the french journalists had a little more time to prepare than the london ones because about that that zelensky, after london before brussels, will make an express stop in paris became known just during his visit to the british capital and that is why i say that history has repeated itself, this is what i have here are these shots of the plane with zelensky on board, which, like in britain, when he landed in london, well
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, the news channels broadcast live the plane with zelensky landed around 10:45 p.m. outside kyiv at orly airport in paris. in the french capital, two european dignitaries were waiting at once , the owner of the elysee palace, macron , the president of france. well, german chancellor olafsholz scholz made a stop in paris on his way from berlin to brussels so that in three to talk with zelenskyi and so, after a short photo shoot on the ramp, zelenskyi went to the elysee palace. we will now take a closer look at this meeting . there was a small briefing for the press , despite the late hour. there was no little embarrassment. zelensky
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scholz got their places mixed up at first, but quickly figured it out . modern airplanes by the way, it became known that the idea of ​​such a meeting of the three of them was spontaneous and belonged to macron shorts, this is the conclusion that can be drawn from the press conference after the negotiations, and one more interesting detail : the president of france macron awarded the president of ukraine with the legion of honor . this is the highest award that france awards the president of the republic for military or civilian merits will be fulfilled ukraine can rely on france, its european partners and allies, to win this
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war russia cannot and must not win until it attacks must continue to adapt and adapt the military support necessary to preserve ukraine and its future, similar to the delivery of new defense equipment in recent weeks. of the terrible war, europe and our friends overseas not only firmly stood by ukraine, together with our partners, also provided ukraine with significant financial and humanitarian aid and military support, heavy artillery, anti-aircraft defense, and recently battle tanks, and we will continue to do this as long as necessary, and already after the meeting, speaking at a joint press conference in the elysee palace, macron said that ukraine intends to lead ukraine to victory in the war with russia, similar
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statements were also made by german chancellor scholz, who emphasized that russia cannot be allowed to win the war in ukraine . confirmed that his country will provide ukraine with military aid, i will quote as much as necessary, let's figure out the details. i am glad to welcome a colleague on the air, my own correspondent of the magazine ukrainian week in paris, alla lazareva . i congratulate you. such a franco-german tandem works together in the international arena, although between the two countries and there are many contradictions on many energy and economic issues, but on the issue of ukraine and russia how much do their voices sound in unison and where
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the difference is, well, recently we can say that we have more or less achieved enough of this unison, because despite the fact that the french press quite often writes about the fact that there is no such warm understanding between macron and scholz, there is no contact with anyone, er, but purely on a human level. but nevertheless, they find an opportunity to work together and achieve some joint results, then again, this visit of zelenskyi can testify to the fact that , even if it is difficult , they find a common language, some communication, regarding the position on ukraine, then it is clear that the french had it. it was certainly simpler than the germans , if only because the french do not have the energy dependence on russia that the germans built for themselves through both the first and second northern streams. that is why it is clear that the french have an easier time .
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it is possible to have clear positions regarding, for example, what is the victory of ukraine, er, can russia hope to win this war , er, it is clear here that the germans hesitated longer . they were somehow approaching the acceptance of the need to provide ukraine with heavy weapons, but still the goals have been achieved, the next stage that president zelensky is aiming for is combat aircraft, let's hope that this stage will also be passed, i paid attention to all the remarks that the idea of ​​a-a belonged to paris or berlin, it definitely wasn't there, but what exactly macron and scholz decided to talk with zelenskyi first, the three of them, before the eu summit takes place. and what kind of format is this and why such a meeting in such
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a narrow circle before it will be in shiroki? well , the french just like to give as much as possible other countries of the world and beginning his speech yesterday at the press conference, macron noted that exactly one day a year ago he was in kyiv . it was on the eve of the great offensive. he hoped then that you would be able to warn him . he then came to ukraine after a trip to russia . where he spoke with the kremlin leader, and it is obvious that he wanted to somehow mark this anniversary by the fact that his position has changed. at least since january, we can say that he has been very clearly saying that we and ukraine will reach the victorious end, and for sure that the understanding of what a ukrainian victory is also beginning to become clearer for the name of olya macron, and now if we talk about such
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a trio that met in paris, yes, this tradition is, let's say, perhaps a failed norman format, where there could also be but is not e representative of the aggressor country a-a but nevertheless, the norman format is precisely a diplomatic initiative of france and germany where they tried jointly and unsuccessfully to achieve some peace-making goals in ukraine . that is, it can be said that this is certain in a way, you can imagine an update of this format, an attempt to apply for an update, i would read it like this, and in addition to the beautiful words about support , what are the practical results independently from this student meeting? we saw
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what was not known before or about we didn't agree on a video call, let's say this visit has more of a symbolic meaning than any other meaning, at least natural specific numbers , er, no specific dates, no specific amounts , a-a was not announced in the public space , and this means that hair behind closed doors is possible at the door during the dinner, at which there were only three leaders and translators and that's all and no one else, maybe they agreed on something, which we will find out a little later in a few days, at least this is hinted at in the foreign policy department. but as of today, no, except that zelenskyi began his visit to these two capitals first
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, of course, in london, because the most reliable and largest european military partner of ukraine is britain. this is due to the fact that france was the first to provide light tanks, and zelenskyi mentioned this during the press conference . no specific conclusions are announced and the meeting is called a symbolic one. it turns out that very important and principled decisions were made there behind the criminal doors. perhaps this is the situation now. thank you very much. actually , the correspondent of the ukrainian week in paris alla lazareva and we are moving on to brussels, there the ukrainian president was waiting for the meps, he was supposed to make a speech in front of them and participate in a special summit of the european union, an
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opportunity to see and talk face to face with the leaders of all the countries of the european union for the first time in a long time and already i don't know. today we have a lot of planes in the program. i want to show one more footage. this morning at dawn, president zelenskyi, president zelenskyi and president macron are walking towards the plane of a french fighter jet in lithuania. and we prepared these shots . i hope that we will still have the opportunity to show them, but if not, then i will just tell you . he flew from london to paris and then he went to brussels on the same
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flight with the french leader. and when he arrived in brussels, welcome home , welcome to the european union, tweeted the president of the european council, charles mishael welcoming the president of ukraine to the michelin, a photo of the meeting between the presidents of ukraine and france, was also published by the head of the european commission, ursula von der lyagin, in her tweet . she well, then the ukrainian leader appeared at the meeting of the european parliament, where he was met by standing and shouts of "bravo" of
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the european parliament, robert metzola assured zelenskyi, that the eu will help and support ukraine as much as necessary, emphasized that the future of ukraine in europe is a settled issue and will do everything to help its ally on the military and diplomatic level. speaking before the european deputies, the ukrainian president said that by fighting now, ukraine is protecting not only itself, but all of europe and the european way of life, we are defending ourselves from the most anti-european force in the modern world, we are defending ourselves, we ukrainians are on the battlefield with you and i thank you i thank you for the fact that we defend ourselves together and we must defend ourselves and this is important not only
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for the states of europe, not only for the communities of europe. whoever we are, we always fight against contempt, wherever we live, we always bet on good faith, whatever we talk about with you we dreamed for our children, for our grandchildren, the unconditional background for these dreams of ours is peace, peace and security , however, one of the main issues to solve which, judging by everything, zelenskyi set out on this european tour, so far it remains unsettled, thunderous ovations and military planes not the same thing, but promises to supply ukraine with modern combat aircraft with specific numbers and specific dates so far. we have not heard any and the summit of the leaders of the european union countries. where the president of ukraine also spoke after the european parliament - this is not a fair for arms dealers, although it is still a chance
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to be in the same room with 20 leaders of seven countries, many of which do supply weapons to ukraine, and try to convince them to increase and speed up these supplies from brussels, as bbc correspondent jessica parker arrived today in the heart of europe in capitals he was greeted very warmly at the european parliament, ukraine is europe and the future of your people in the european union, rising to the podium, he knows well how to work with the public and
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wants to achieve a result. but this does not mean that individual member states are ready to give kyiv exactly what it wants today. great britain said that the president will not transfer british fighter jets in the near future zelensky may want to talk about the supply of weapons and fighter jets, but in fact this summit is not for that ukraine emphasizes a sense of urgency, but some of the european leaders are wary of rushing into big decisions, let's go, the west should supply ukraine with fighter jets, there are many sensitive issues that need to be discussed, the pros and cons, everything must be done in order to prevent a direct confrontation between nato and russia in accordance with the fifth article, therefore , all these things must be taken into account and as soon as the conclusions
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are made, they can be conveyed to the rest of the world, this is only the second foreign trip of president zelensky after the full-scale russian invasion. he wants ukraine to become a full member of the eu one day, but at the moment he has more urgent demands, and at this moment it is he who does not continue from time to time. it happens that the same ones continue until late at night and well, a few hours ago, we saw the arrival of the leaders, now they are behind closed doors in the palace of europe, and before that , bilateral multilateral negotiations were held , the politiko publication writes european leaders even were divided into four groups to talk with zelenskyi, everyone except macron and scholz. by the way, as we remember, they met with zelenskyi the night before. and from what is known, zelenskyi called on eu countries to also impose sanctions against the russian nuclear industry and against the company that involved in the production of missiles and drones, russian missile terror will be
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a threat until the source of such a threat is destroyed. drapak, congratulations, mr. mykhailo, i have a question. i just listened to zelenskyi's speech, re-listened to the fragment that we chose for the broadcast, and he repeats the entire thesis that a-a ukraine and ukrainians are now actually protecting europe and are such a forward line for europe. although i have repeatedly paid attention to the fact that in western europe itself, this thesis does not work very well in western europe, they say that we can protect ourselves, does your observation work, does it not work, or is it really successful?
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message in order to convince the europeans to support ukraine and give more weapons to say that ukraine protects europe so unconditionally. i also drew attention at this point to what mr. zelensky repeatedly repeated during his speech to the european parliament and later during his speech in to the european council, and moreover, while speaking at a briefing in paris, he spoke about ukraine being part of europe, ukraine protects europe, and here is another important detail. during his speech at the european council, he referred to the examples of two the founders of the european union, well, maybe not the founders , but the two leaders of the first ones who actually created this idea of ​​a united europe, this is how i was fooled.
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that europe can be strong and strong in peace. and secondly, he draws attention to the idea that europe is united. the soviet union was created around the idea of ​​mutual understanding between peoples. and that today ukraine is ukrainian soldiers and ukrainian the people are actually protecting the stability of europe, this is a very important detail with which it is probably psychologically easier to appeal to all the leaders of european states. but will it have any effect? trips and maybe not even immediately in a few weeks, but still there are certain shifts, uh, if we look at the trip to great britain, if we look at the trip to meet with the president of france, germany, we can still
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say that a certain ice is off the chair and what and the leaders of the united kingdom and the leaders of the eu member states , one way or another , they are already discussing the issue of providing a different type of weapon than was previously provided to ukraine. on the day of the first day of the visit, i will also announce on youtube the bbc channel from ukraine there is also a special issue where we talk in detail about the visit to london and also using the opportunity if you watch us on youtube, do not forget to like don't forget to subscribe, yes, this is the broadcast, more people will see this broadcast, and more people will get access to important information, i have a second question, too , er, well, there is a summit, zelensky came to the eu summit
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and asks for weapons, isn't the eu summit a place where they ask weapons eh i think this is one of the best platforms to ask for weapons and talk about something in general, but here returning to the previous question i must also say that i do not think that eh ukraine and well the president of ukraine only speaks here as the party asking for something er after all, this is a visit of a future member of the european union, a future member of the european union, on the one hand, and a partner of european states. in particular, security issues are the first thing, and the second thing is that the cs itself is a place where they gather in fact, all all heads of states or heads of governments of the member states of the european union and where else can they be gathered in one place, like in brussels
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, no way, not at the summit, another interesting detail is that this meeting of leaders was not well announced there before its organization and we already saw today that it is unplanned that is, an extraordinary year er. in this way, you can say and omit that ukraine itself and help to it in the coming months is a key topic for discussion, of course it was announced that it was not good, but you remember the scandals with er leak of information that the europeans could not contain in secret, unlike the british, is zelensky's visit to brussels, by the way, you talked about the possible future membership or future membership of ukraine in the european union. and today i also drew attention to the fact that sources among
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diplomats are commenting to journalists that behind closed doors, zelenskyy talks much less about the beginning of negotiations on the accession of ukraine to the european union than in front of television cameras, in general, the beginning of negotiations this year, possible, real , everything depends on ukraine, everything depends on how well the state implements the seven recommendations that it provided the european commission earlier or last year, at the ukraine eu summit last week, we saw that there is progress in many areas. he was forgotten by european partners, but with on the other hand, there are also a lot of things that need to be worked on, in particular in the issues of a-a-m-m justice in the issues of the rights of national minorities. and until these steps are completed , the accession negotiations will not begin, as kyiv wants, in addition, the ukrainian side the ukrainian government has also
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expressed its readiness to start the so-called salt screening of national legislation for compliance, that is, an analysis of national legislation for compliance with european legislation, and i think that it will be started soon, that is, now in fact, everything depends on ukraine, on how the reforms will be implemented, thank you very much, director of the program of european studies of the council of foreign policy, ukrainian and prizma, and mykhailo drapak, thank you very much for taking the time to join our broadcast and let's return to the london part now visit that it became known only late in the evening the day before that ukraine and great britain concluded the so-called london declaration, the documents remind us that great britain has already provided ukraine with various types of aid, including military aid, for almost 4
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billion pounds, and more than only the united states lena promises to continue and support during the aggression to help with the restoration of both the energy system and infrastructure well, it is also about sanctions pressure on russia. that britain is ready to provide ukraine with a strong defense package that will include long-range weapons various types of weapons, as well as london will begin training ukrainian pilots to operate modern western-style combat aircraft, and despite the fact that the comments now sound , in particular, the british minister of defense has already announced that there will be no immediate delivery of aircraft, and here is a more realistic quote, according to him, it is productive to predict that london will give ukraine airplanes in the long-term perspective well, of course, it is interesting to listen to one more side of zelenskyi's visas, his speech
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at westminster was appreciated by international observers from the bbc, among others, gave a speech. the whole ministry listened to the aroba watson’s nose, his summaries. i have seen quite a lot of speeches in this historic building, but i have never seen a single speech like this or a speaker who received such a reception. you think because zelensky is perceived as a wartime leader, he was greeted as a hero. the president’s speech focused on on the three main points that he wanted to convey, first of all he thanked great britain for being one of the first to support ukraine, and secondly, he drew a broader picture, which consists in the fact that the ukrainian the victory will be the victory of the whole world over aggression and will be able to contribute to averting future wars. of course, this is a headline that will be picked up by everyone, and finally he absolutely clearly called for the provision of combat aircraft . zelensky also paid tribute to boris johnson as a person who became one of the first supporters of ukraine and mobilized for it the support of the international community , the leitmotif of the speech was what he felt great britain clearly became one of the first
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countries to understand that, according to him , resisting russian aggression was correct, and then involved other coalition allies, including the rest of europe and, of course, the usa, it must be said that he is such a good orator who is used to and knows how to deliver his message. he had one wonderful phrase that i could notice was enthusiastically received by all present , he said i am going to the king and i will tell him that we also have kings in ukraine, they are people who fly military planes and i must admit that this really impressed everyone and again it emphasized the main message which boils down to one give us more weapons thank you for what you have provided but we need more and that's all for today more history on our site and we are back on the air tomorrow at 21:00

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