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[000:00:00;00] he says months ago about uh, let's say, even tanks were not discussed, he couldn't even imagine that today we will practically discuss the issue of uh, delivery of f-16 fighter jets to ukraine, although we always talked about it from the beginning of the war, remember, and close the sky over ukraine by these very means, we proposed well, awareness does not come immediately and it is, so to speak, the realities with which we have to live, but vladimir, actually , about those red lines that you said that we are already there already moved we are far from the red lines that the european leaders talked about there. hmmm, after this summit, after the president's visit to brussels, did you see any beacons and signals that the ice is falling from the chair, that in the matter of
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aircraft with long-range weapons, any possible diplomatic hints thin, which we do not distinguish, well, look, this is not a hint, if today in great britain, the first group of ukrainian servicemen are undergoing training on modern combat vehicles of the west, then this already suggests that, well, rather for all this decision, i do not want, as they say, er, to predict something er but it seems to me that this indicates an er, absolutely possibility and, most likely , the delivery of combat aircraft to ukraine will happen. well, we have already clearly known about tanks literally days ago
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a group of states that have already announced their deliveries of this weaponry are gathering. well, it will be the same with uh-uh with airplanes a-a um-m, actually , in britain. so, i would like to ask here such a nuance about the fact that britain will not be immediately supply fighter jets to ukraine about it said the minister of defense, mr. volys. he said that the air support of the troops can be provided with the help of long-range missile drones. vole noted that it was more realistic to productively convey that britain would predict, i apologize, it was productive to predict that britain would provide ukraine with aircraft in the long term to ensure its security after the end of the war with the russian federation , that is, if we a helmet as a gift, but the voice says such things. look at the dissonance, it’s not only you, i had a lot in my head, many people
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have this dissonance in their heads, really, you know, and i want to say just something today, the issue of the supply of planes to ukraine so far in the process of discussion, it is also about that. literally today, it seems that a statement was made by the secretary general at dostoutenberg that the decision on the delivery of aircraft will be made by nato as an organization that says that poland even says that you and we will be, but we will not be the first to deliver, that is, discussions are underway you know how deliveries of such weapons should, in principle, take place in silence, and you think that announcements can be made when these machines are already on the territory of ukraine. well , actually, the president said that we will not reveal all the details, and that is why
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it will be possible, let's wait, then the situation. you a politician must always understand the art of the possible, including a politician, including regarding the production of weapons , volodymyr, we need to speed it up a little and add one more topic to our conversation. on the phone iryna solomka is a correspondent of the ukrainian editorial office of the voice of america and we want to ask her about the meeting of the un security council what happened at the request of russia and iryna, good evening, are you having a good day and it is already late in the evening a please give me a word about what happened before this meeting, how it happened, and what was said on the sidelines about this meeting at the request of russia , the meeting was really a lot around this meeting, information
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about experiences, also because until the last time, no it was clear who exactly russia will propose as speakers on this issue, because i will remind you that the official name of the meeting is usually peaceful settlement in the conditions of increased arms supply, and that is, among the speakers was the deputy secretary general, who is in charge of arms control, and also british musicians and activists that's what he calls himself a-a yes, this is roger waters, and just his speech was very controlled , it is clear that russia tried, that is , to pay extremely great attention to this and the attention of the media and his attention is probably, however, very often, even permanently, a russian worker at the un already after his speech addressed this speech, and he was quite like that, he said quite such things in our country , even in russia, because he basically admitted yes that the invasion is illegal, but he said that it was not unprovoked
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and he put well, that is, he basically put the responsibility for it on the provocateurs. for example, when he called that the war in ukraine should stop, he said that it was a call not only to the president, that is, he called on the president of the united states, the president of russia, and the president of ukraine to do it, that is, he tried to put the responsibility for this situation on everyone. about the speeches of the wall representative of russia at the un, and besides, i already said that he tried to strengthen the speech of waters, er, that is, his main one of the main messages was precisely that what is happening now with the supply of weapons, this is essentially a business project for western countries for the united states and european partners who supply the most weapons, which helps to deny and increase profits according to their military-industrial complex. he talked about the fact that even the shares of some companies have increased in price because of this
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in addition, he spoke about the fact that these companies use ukraine as a training ground for weapons testing and , accordingly, modifications. it maintains neutrality, but even speaking out, he said that now the tsariya is reviewing its neutrality, and because of these super-duper surplus profits that are causing, accordingly, it did this year , although it is not clear what ukraine is doing here, because currently switzerland does not supply directly not through the third through the third countries , respectively, weapons to ukraine, yes, that is, and because of this , respectively, the swiss now want to change this system and allow, respectively, these supplies of weapons to ukraine, and he said that in this way a
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the swiss are repeating this to their predecessors who cooperated with the tsitsik regime, in particular, that is why there were many such contradictory statements, but to say that the goal of russia was that the goal of russia was achieved, and i would not say that, and iryn , i thank you for such a small excursion of the events that took place. so i will remind that our security council again discussed russia's war against ukraine at russia's request . iryna solomko, a correspondent of the voice of america, was in touch with us. i will remind you that we have volodymyr khandogiy a. volodymyr, let's go now, let's go back, i want to add more information and we will discuss this meeting itself. and what about the statement of mr. kislytsia, so that the un council still tolerates the presence of war criminals in the seat of the soviet union, therefore it is unable to fulfill its task of maintaining peace and security in the world this is exactly what our representative serhiy kislytsia said
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at the council . all responsible countries we must do this work now to safety for our common good as it is said in the first lines of the un charter to save future generations from this hell of war the president of the russian federation vladimir putin has emptied his nation and continues to treat his country like an animal farm to produce more and more more cannon fodder mr. volodymyr and what do you think in general about this situation that develops when the united nations is meeting at the request of russia to discuss the war in ukraine that was started by russia, well, let's say it is statutory
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the right of a member of the organization from a member of the security council to call a meeting of this body, especially if it is a permanent member of the security council. unfortunately, at the moment russia remains a permanent member of the security council, this is a normal phenomenon. it seems to me that this measure conceived by russia is rather propaganda you know, so much noise about nothing, that is, in fact , i have the same impression. i agree with the comment from new york about the fact that today even russia, i think, regretted that it invited otters to speak at this meeting because if you open er on the guilty er tapes, there is not a single word on the essence of this meeting, but everyone is commenting on some figure of er roger waters, and we know her and this 70-year-old er grey-haired man well, we all
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wish him a lot er those of us of that generation were his fans. well, as he said, it was also a famous song. it is not necessary. breaking the wall is such a brick in the wall that was built there . yes, he made himself another brick that covered the entire wall of disinformation. sponsored by the russian federation, that is, it is completely pointless she did the discussion. by the way, russia quickly convened this meeting of the security council, knowing that in the area of ​​february 24 , another meeting of the security council will be held, which will be called precisely on the occasion. well, i don't want to say on the occasion . but in connection with the anniversary of this anniversary, we let's say about the russian aggression against ukraine, on which there will really be powerful messages from many countries regarding the situation
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with aggression against ukraine, you mentioned the sourness of his statement - the statement about the illegality of the russian federation occupying a place of a permanent member, i completely agree with this, there is no time to agree on this, but i am happy that today this topic began to be actively discussed, just remember that in 2000-2019 and earlier, the journal of the ukrainian foreign policy association, which i head included an article authored by me, a former permanent representative of ukraine at the un, volodymyr yelchenko , called the raider seizure of the chair of the security council of the russian federation, how
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to throw this out from there is a big question, but actually this question was my next question. well, considering whether it is possible to prove this fact of raiding. here is this chair when russia was still there from the soviet union, conditionally speaking, she said that it was supposedly left there as an inheritance , as it were. signals that something should be done about it from this organization with russia's presence there. well, we seem to be, if i'm not mistaken, we talked , you and i already raised this topic on the air , maybe more than six months ago, but in these six months and a year, something has changed, it's taking over by the masses at the moment and i have already said that i am very happy that they start talking about it more and more
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. the illegality of the russian federation's presence in the un security council, there are many legal and legal arguments that testify in favor of the illegality of russia's presence in the un, but we must be realistic and be aware of that that this is not only a legal issue, but a political issue of political will on the part of many players and, let's say directly , of the political will on the part of the member states of the united nations, that is, without the majority of the member states of the united nations recognizing this thesis. unfortunately, we do not it will be possible, so to speak, to deprive the russian federation of its illegal place in the organization of the poor us, and in particular in the security council. well, it’s just
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that the russian federation does not have a signature under the un charter, it did not sign this and therefore, a priori, she can, so to speak, behave in such a way that she disregards the provisions of the institute, since she did not sign it, and the statement that she is a successor and member. you know the category of the continuationist. well, it is an artificially created category of international law, it is not very actively used, but this is a separate issue, it is very big and i understood well, but we actually need to get rid of the russian the federation of powers in the organization of the united nations in the meetings and this in essence to do the current general assembly heard thank you very much for joining, spent
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so much time with us and explained the processes taking place in the international arena volodymyr khandogii, president of the ukrainian foreign policy association and first deputy minister of foreign affairs from 2007 to 2009, why didn't the pause last for a moment , let's continue your future in your hands protect yours, i protect ukraine, my blue sky , morning silence, forest, fields, i protect culture traditions, the cossack land, i defend the borders of my country, i defend what is important , life, family, mother and father, brothers, wife, i defend my ukraine, my will, love
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, we are the ones who do not, the new, strong, free and independent ukraine , i defend, i defend, i defend, i defend myself, because we understand that the main thing is ours the wealth of our people, therefore we advise every ukrainian and the ukrainians we managed to save because we know that there is no such thing as small help and we are ready to support to the best of our ability with projectiles only strengthens our
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unity and desire for victory we introduce the winner and we will give up the ruins. who are the ukrainians ? you can involve other children who are nearby do not forbid the child to ask questions or share memories allow him to speak and show emotions and then calm down baby, we have children's fairy tales about the air defense of ukraine in no case and raise your voice, all the women fully experienced all the beauty of the so-called russian world
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, the war radically changed the lives of each of them , their husbands, the defenders, and for their sake , the wives of the fighters united in one association the main goal of which is to return everyone home, they were able to attract the attention of the whole world and even reached the pope of rome more about the difficult path of steel wives in marathon the only news
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i forgot the 14th year sophia square it was the shipment was on july 16, and it was one of the first ones in the donetsk direction. at that time , it was still of the azov battalion, and my best friend was there. we went to see him off with my girlfriend the day before . our friend came out for a short walk, and he told us not to go for a walk together. i took my friend, we just got to know each other. we were just talking , and at that time it was not yet clear that it would turn out 8 years later , and there were some girls who brought sunflowers and gave them to the soldiers, and dmytro, we had been together all day. as acquaintances, he just gave his the sunflower also told me something like live it from this day i consider sofiyivska square to be a place of strength. i came and stood looking at this poster and was very stunned when i first saw it here in
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such a symbolic place. i came to mariupol on the 23rd. i in general i planned to go on the weekend, but something so spontaneous happened on monday. when i came to work and thought that i would come on wednesday, i arrived in the evening, he was already so nervous and pretentious, there was some kind of instruction for the future, here is a letter just in case if i die and that is if i don't die and i sit like that and i just don't understand what is happening and on the morning of the 24th, when everything started there and he took me to a checkpoint in mariupol, the extreme and i went on the road to kharkiv and he returned to mariupol and that it was half past 6:00 in the morning, i had my hands locked, so uh, i loved taking pictures of ours, and i just say come on
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, let's take pictures of our hands, i took a picture and that's it, and we went crazy, it was the last time, i'm very glad that fate turned out this way and i had to say goodbye before this great war, that's all changed very quickly and i remember that at first there was no connection , it was there after 26. probably it just disappeared and then broke through every time for several days. once to get in touch, and it was very risky on march 20. around the time when the helicopters started to fly, when the starlinks were brought in, that's when he appeared. you were in such a normal connection
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before that. it was, well, he just suddenly replied to messages there were some calls in which nothing could be heard except just fragments of the voice of fruit explosions the tooth was like it i had goosebumps it exploded
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it was for zlata she is three years old this is a little like this clothes pajamas dress also she also asked for a set of cosmetics because she really likes to paint her nails so we bought her safe nail polish will be practiced on myself, on my mother, these are felt -tip pens to make life a little brighter, and now we will also pack a gift for yaroslava . we have 134 families, well, children, the children of the dead, there are 3-4 families left at the moment. this is us for them i collected the wishes of each child who loves and
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already collects a box individually for each of them. there are boys who were left behind by their parents when they went to war and there they were 8-9 years old when their father died. they now think that they are older. in the family, they refuse the gift and say that it is better to give something to my sister, but he is already an adult and my toys are not needed. our associations are the wife and there is one sister of the one who has already been exchanged. and that's all, uh, wives and girls . my referral is the family of the dead and the family of the prisoners, that's why i help with financial issues. those who don't have
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any payments from the state, that's why we take care of them. if you need treatment if you need an operation there if you need some medicine renting an apartment i am generally a psychologist and psychological help is also on me, she is an association too er, well, my mother is mostly soldiers. we can spend there directly, which we can bake, then there are some types of children's yoga, it is very beautiful, it is very similar to a rabbit, and pizza can be studied a rabbit a-a, what and where does the rabbit live and grow? i am waiting
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for my husband, he left stalin on may 17-18, they threw out the order and until today, he is on the lists of those killed during the leninsky route, but there is no confirmation to refute that. i hope that you will find something . he got the desire , he was already in the hospital, he didn't finish there shooting ago well, communication was very rare after we realized that mariupoli was definitely already there. we decided to shout to the whole world
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that they should be evacuated, that they should be extracted, and we thought for a long time who we could turn to, and the first person who came to mind came to us anyway , well, world the figure of the pope, that's why we decided in the evening. i dialed anya, who was in another city. how did we fix the car in kyiv and go to the vatican ? she arrives, who is already in europe. europe knew little at all about the situation that exists and often. when we told something, they were very surprised, she invited us to various programs , various journalists talked to us , we then saw that one of prokopenko said that they were carrying out the order and going beyond the growth. glory to ukraine 86 days of defense the higher military leadership of mariupol gave an order to preserve the life and health of the garrison servicemen and stop
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the defense of the city. the photo of the exit was growing. i did not see it, the only thing that the red cross confirmed that at the exit for growth they fixed him hmm and everything after that there was no connection to the national information bureau in the red cross of the border guards, not the headquarters confirmed that he was a prisoner, then well, then there was a terrorist attack in the deer park and the next day , the 30th, i i saw him in the lists of the dead, so far the bodies are green, even though they brought him here, his relatives are waiting for dna confirmation, but i still believe that there will be no confirmation
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. and he is alive , and then in one box, where there are blue ones, yes, christmas trees , now we will put a box for leryno the second one, which is still used, is in captivity and well, in principle, we will collect it in a standard way, it starts with a backpack, which hmm is put in order that later you can put all the things that are in the box into the backpack itself , this is when i see tea, it is much even thicker, although we wanted to do this as much as possible so as not to catch our eye. well, we put a set of genes , it can, in principle, differ depending on what we have at the moment. because we did not give all the hygiene that we have to our partners and we agreed on it here free so it may differ from

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