[000:00:00;00] it is our olena katyuha who already knows more information , she is directly in touch with our studio olena, our congratulations, what is currently known about both enemy attacks during this night, it is really a very difficult night for zaporizhzhia, our city began to be massively shelled on the fourth morning and during for hours for a whole hour it was a real canada of explosions according to the report of acting mayor and secretary of the city council anatoly kortiv 17 explosions were recorded in zaporizhzhia at the moment it is not reported whether there are any victims, we hope there are no and i will destroy information about the destruction. there is no information yet, but he officially announced

that the russians hacked the infrastructure in the city , and indeed, when there was such a massive attack, in some areas there was a power outage and water supply. there is a blackout or some kind of catastrophic situation, it is not possible, the light is coming back, it is likely that the utility services are working, well, it is known that this is the largest attack, first a full-scale invasion, and we continue to monitor what is happening, the explosions were very loud and for example, at my house, the windows were just moving like a walker. from what we heard, let's say so . we continue to monitor the situation in the studio. thank you olena

zaporizhzhia , you are holding on. now we are in direct contact with us from the dnipro, our polina vegera polina, you too had a loud noise at night, is it already known whether there are any data on the damaged objects and what about the people, uh, so far it is known that the residents of the dnipro woke up today from explosions at on the morning of the 4th, 15 minutes before them, an air alert was announced and it lasted until 6:00 p.m. there were only three explosions, and according to the official information of the eastern air command, there were no hits , our anti-aircraft defense worked perfectly, there was also a threat from the russians at the beginning of the night attacked our region with kamikaze drones and all of them also shot down the corresponding wreckage, a fire broke out in the region, and if there are any victims or destruction

, there is no such information yet, we are waiting for an official report and at the moment there is no alarm in dnipropetrovsk oblast, only the threat of artillery shelling continues in the nikopol region, it is there all night, colleague. thank you, polina , the alarm is now sounding only in the autonomous republic of crimea and in luhansk oblast. and we continue to talk about what happened during the day and yesterday, including. well, of course , the attention of many, not only ukrainians and not only residents of europe, is obviously also focused on the events of yesterday in the european the center of political life is the meeting of the leaders of europe and volodymyr zelenskyi - this is something that is extremely disturbing and first of all it takes our attention very, very seriously and we are talking about what happened around this meeting and here is one

of the stories about which yulia wanted to say first of all well, the hungarian prime minister demonstrably did not applaud volodymyr zelenskiy before the summit of eu leaders. in the video you are now watching , european leaders congratulate the president of ukraine , all but one viktor orban call him a friend of putin, i will remind you that urban was the only one who stood silently at that moment with his hands down , so let's see how it was. bohdan ferenc candidate of political sciences , an international expert with us on a direct line bohdan good morning our greetings i congratulate you on how acceptable such a reaction is e-

do you observe international events, do you remember that this happened somewhere else, well, it happens in different ways, depending on the context that exists. within the framework of bilateral relations, therefore, i think that the attention was primarily focused on orban, that is, already he didn't have time to raise his hands, well, we got attached to him, even memes appeared in social networks. i think he wouldn't have had time to raise his hands, but in principle, this is really an illustration of a certain attitude, and you can tell a lot about the emotional state by facial expressions what to define for yourself, especially what concerns the support assistance or not, that’s why, as far as i know , the meeting did take place, that is, between president zelenskyi and urban, and it is really important because to meet, to use the opportunity to meet - meetings need to be even

with those who may not applaud you there, or with the collective farm country, you may have certain difficulties on one or another issue, i think the president did not pay that much attention to it from the review there, yes, on the intensity of visits and the intensity of conversations relate to the support of ukraine, but on the other hand, it is also important to talk about issues that are difficult to resolve, to communicate , well, there are moments that help in the context of further actions and to- and in the context of further support, let me remind you that hungary is a member of the eu and a member of nato and we like it, we should also work on this as smokers and find even difficult such issues that from the point of view of touch because they can block us can block support for ukraine and our european integration and nato hopes for accession bohdan but yes, of course they can but they can not only

hungary can be any of the countries that belong to the european community, why exactly is hungary behaving like this, and again, in a russian language, without an ugly face , how comfortable are european leaders in such a situation? behave and react to the way hungary behaves demonstratively, well, i'll start with an extreme question. i think that the problem is, let's say orbán, it has been felt at the level of the european union for a long time because , well, this is again, i won't say that the whole country and we have to associate, for example this or that country with a specific leader is not the case, because the rest of the hungarians who help ukraine, who has been to budapest, has seen many centers with ukrainian flags and directly sent to support ukraine

. well, there is public transport was free, at least that's why i wouldn't completely associate the whole country with the leader or with his political power , and the problematic points have been discussed for a long time, sometimes used by hungarians in the context of the law on language, for example, in the context of minorities let's say we like what we do at the state level, but it's their right , and we have to do our own thing, so again, the main thing is that hungary didn't use and blackmail brussels and other states and eu members in the context of supporting ukraine, so that for itself also negotiate some concessions with brussels, and let me remind you that in order to work in accordance with the principles of the rule of law and the democrats, the principles on which the european union is based, hungary and orbán in some places do not manage to show this in

practice, and from brussels they have already started to make tougher decisions that, for example , put funding on hold in the large volumes of hungary from the budget of the european union, there may be billions of euros, that 's why otaki is a tool for sometimes blackmail, we can support it or not to support a collective decision aimed at supporting ukraine, at the same time give us the green light so that we get the maximum from the european union, actually such a mechanism is blackmailing successfully getting its way with oil, he negotiated a concession for himself , now he is threatening to impose sanctions against the russians in in the field of nuclear energy, before that, hungary has repeatedly blocked sanctions, including against patriarch kirill. and now, in orban's office, the heads of his staff said

that kyiv will not be allowed to ratify that hungary such energy is energizing ukraine's accession to the eu due to the alleged oppression of hungarians in transcarpathia. in transcarpathia, let me remind you that there are cities where they speak only hungarian, study only in hungarian there, i will try to find the ukrainian language . i think it is possible because, again , nothing is impossible with diplomacy, but at the same time we need to strengthen our position with the collective position of our partners within the framework of the european union and within nato. countries definitely have the tools to influence hungary directly, as well as orbán and his entourage, and it is desirable that these countries take advantage of this opportunity, what concerns the issue of language and minority issues , unfortunately, this does not only apply to hungarians, who in some places really react harshly to our

decision, our policy ah, this is also a very sensitive issue with the romanian side , so here it is, but with the romanians, it is good that we do not have such problems yes, such problems at the bilateral, multilateral level, but we must understand that they also arise in some places issues that are of such a sensitive nature, and we also have to try to settle the situation precisely , meetings, negotiations at various levels , they sometimes help such opponents to move forward in certain issues, so actually, on the one hand, our position is, of course, supported by the position and support of the western partners well, at the same time, moving forward because we really need it if we aspire

to join the european union and the north atlantic alliance. countries that may be skeptical of such a process now bohdan and how would you characterize and evaluate yesterday's event in brussels, i am personally happy because , you know, until the last europe was perceived by us as such a sleeping beauty, so a comparison , for example, with the same e and sharp statements and operative by the actions of the same americans or the british, there is now a feeling that europe has woken up after winter hibernation, or at least is trying to wake up, and there is such a healthy competition with the overseas leader is it good or is this really our feeling and the expectation that europe has really stopped dragging on for a long time and will start to go fast? these feelings will come true. we hope that the dynamics will certainly please the dynamics. i mean decision-making and support in the context of

the european union, but i will explain why to the eurologist first of all, these are tactics, a collective larger story here, there are different players, er , in some places with different visions of how to respond to certain current challenges, and to balance this vision in some places, again, time is needed, eh and political will, and on the other hand, the impulse that comes from washington on the european continent is doing its thing and the processes are speeding up, even that track is the direct channel of communication between berlin and washington between mr. scholz and mr. biden, it illustrates that when important decisions need to be made how about the supply of heavy tanks to ukraine, this was the case. this channel of communication worked and the decision was not taken as quickly as we would have liked, but at least the effectiveness is already there, let's

hope that the trend will continue to support of ukraine will be stable. by the way, this is very important because we set this trend in a global context and it is very important. after you set certain trends so that they are stable so that this wavelikeness we support, then we will refocus on our internal agenda issues, it happened less often and the european union our european partners are key partners because they are actually geographically closer to the aggressor before the russian-ukrainian war and the threat to them is more tangible than, for example, mine the opinion of our pacific partners. we think the same, but this reaction , in my opinion, should have been just as emotional and prompt in the first month. and it's good that it happened now, but if everything happened 12-11 months ago, it's good that this trend appeared, but

what should be done to make that progress so that it really does not fade away so that it is really like that in vistra. as they say, constantly update in some places, so to speak, our agenda on the international fronts, it is very important because when, for example, we communicate only one thing although it is extremely important, we really do not update this communication strategy in some places, our partners may get tired of it, we just need to understand this, first, second , take into account what is happening in them, especially not only at the level of the european union, but also specifically in the member states, because they are changing attention is being refocused on political processes and we must also respond to the internal agenda of our partners. well, actually the most important work is being done at the front, they show how strong our resistance is again

russian aggression and that we are capable of defeating it, i think the most important thing is that we communicate through different channels of communication because zelensky is the president, but he absorbs exactly yes so what is against the entire ukrainian people and when they applaud the president, they applaud first of all three heroes those heroes no one is on the line of the front today is protecting not only europe, but protecting the values ​​due to which the western world is developing , the values ​​of democracy, freedom, first of all , by the heroes of ukraine and but about the new er, the new communication strategy, er, this campaign in europe was behind the planes, and this is in principle the first time. when ukraine so loudly declared that we need airplanes, wings for the freedom of ukraine, this statement of the president was published by dozens of western publications after the visit of volodymyr zelenskyi to great britain. of protection, this news was placed on the front pages by a number

of authoritative british changes to what extent it can affect the influence of the media on public opinion in britain, for example, a very serious tool of influence and this is important when political meetings and political messages are reinforced by coverage in the mass media, and i will explain why. because for western politicians , it is also important for them to communicate with their electorate, they have elections there, democracy and they depend on the opinion of the, let's say, the mood in the electoral and in some places it may not be clear to everyone, unfortunately, in one or another country

, why do we spend so much money, for example, to support ukraine? in western democracies, they think about themselves first of all, it is also about us, that is, you understand the level of prices there, whether i will be able to pay for heat or not, and here it is important to really communicate and explain to the voter, first of all, that by supporting ukraine, we provide ourselves with protection, first of all, from russian the aggressor, therefore, such diplomatic communication is supported by an information space that is not distorted, but really shows the reality of the russian-ukrainian war , it helps politicians to make bolder decisions in support of ukraine for example, really provide us with airplanes, and on the other hand, it forms public opinion , which is necessary in order for the trend in

support of ukraine to be permanent. appreciated this game of words, yes, each of you pilot is meant to the british society, how did it perceive that your king is a pilot we all pilots are kings, how far did it go, as they say in simple words, yes to the british of ice because they treat the king and the monarchy very badly. i think that the president's co-writer checked every word before that. i hope so before really declaring such things, but in my opinion it is a good message that means what our pilots are doing in the sky right now. on which one the risk they take every day, as it is difficult for them in some places, especially when airplanes are needed and there should be more of them in ukraine, and this is even understanding, it is also sometimes, well, quite difficult to perceive

when you know that you can protect more families in ukraine, critical infrastructure but you can't, for example, because there are not enough airplanes, and again, i think that this is in the context and professionalism of our pilots, so that our partners do not have any wrong perception that we need to learn for a very long time , of course, piloting airplanes is a special profession and requires a certain qualification time for this, but i am sure that we have experienced specialists who can deepen their knowledge quite quickly and already master the aircraft of our defense partners well, in fact, the decision, as i said before the visit, found out great britain has already declared that it is ready to train our pilots on modern aircraft that

are at the disposal of great britain and not only to talk about the results of the visit to brussels, how much of this message, give us planes, how much it was heard in europe, again, considering what was said on the sidelines, not to the people , not to the public, and what is known from this is the confidence that the european community is ready to transfer to ukraine at least a political decision to transfer aircraft to ukraine and how quickly it can happen, i think it is a matter of time, the situation is really similar to the tanks, and such decisions were not made immediately. they communicated for themselves and found out at the expense of which coordination of actions the decision to provide ukraine, for example, with heavy tanks, can be implemented now , i think a similar situation, maybe even

more accelerated in the context of aircraft and that's all will depend on further scenarios, especially in the short term. and this is the middle and second half of february, march, how will the situation at the front develop if there is even more escalation, and most likely many military experts say that this is how it is. this is exactly how the situation can develop, i think the decision of our western partners will be accelerated because we have repeatedly emphasized in our broadcasts that it is possible to react preventively, that is, not after such tragic offensive actions of missiles. when we have devastation in the context of some issues of infrastructure and the protection of our lives, and directly in advance , that is, to prevent the enemy from giving us the tools to really hurt us, and i think that our partners have already understood our european ones much better, and we will

hope that the formats are different, and first of all, it is the rammstein format is already working directly and there is no question in the near future why am i talking about this i will talk about a political decision ah just like the decision of america made it possible and the decision at least at least nominal, but the decision to transfer, but this decision is very important, who in europe can take the political decision on the transfer of aircraft to ukraine, poland said that it is ready, but not the first, so britain said that it is not in time, the germans say that we should think about it in principle for a very, very long time who in europe can take over from me for some reason? you know that cautious feeling that after all it is our scandinavian partners who are decisive enough in their decisions, who can take over this important er important function yes we

are ready to announce first of all it all depends on of the most important countries in the european union, why do i say the european union? the european union is not really about the military, so the decision is more about the economy, finances, but now it has been mixed , that is, the rammstein format. nato is also the majority of the member states of the european union . i believe that first of all the decision will be made between berlin and paris, if we are talking about the eu, then london and washington , that is, italy, in the context of support or non-support, as far as the scandinavian countries are concerned, i agree, i think there are no, let's say, such special cautions, but the scandinavian countries will be equal to the key yes, such giants, let's say, of the european continent , if this decision is made along the lines of washington, berlin - paris, i think then all

the others will join in and i will start about this after every e-mail transmission is the armament of a new stage , so to speak, of the staged transfer of weapons, as machine tools were before this, with long-range artillery . i ask our interlocutors. for a year, everyone could see for themselves what russia is capable of, what kind of escalation our european american partners are afraid of, that was heimers . now, for sure, russia will decide what you need to know . then after the tanks, and now the planes to help. well, patriots, now we definitely won’t give planes, because it’s definitely russia will fight with nato well, we need to understand them, they also calculate russia's reaction to certain steps and the decisions they make, i will explain why because they, first of all, they

care about this collective nato measure about our security , and every time we hear messages from officials there, from the same jans stuptonberg, the secretary general of nato, from the leaders of nato member states that we are not at war with russia directly, that is how we avoid a collision there with nato, for example, with russia because it could be the third world war and we do not know how events will develop further, therefore they are guided primarily by their interests in the context of ensuring security and thus measure russia's reaction to certain escalating actions with on their part and on the adoption of certain decisions regarding the support of the military in ukraine , it is also worth paying attention to the fact that the military-industrial complex in some member states was not possible to such an extent that, let's say, it does not provide as much as

the needs as much as they are. this is now an internal political debate in the same germany. what is the state of their armament there with this or that, and if it is also part of the political discourse, many citizens ask and how much will it cost ? and what is the cost of this, and it is money serious large expenses and partners are also paying attention to this. well, the phasing of the supply of this or that military weaponry depended on how we in ukraine effectively use it, we proved that we can keep and really use effective equipment against russian threats, and so on i think the best argument was for our partners to provide us with more and better modernized weapons because they saw the effectiveness in protecting our country, our borders, our

people, well, it's very simple, how about me for example, how much does it cost for americans, it is $14 per month, and this figure is an eloquent figure that confirms how much freedom, security, and a happy future for the whole world costs. it seems to me that europeans should also count these numbers. and we thank you , bohdan, for that who were in direct contact with us bohdan ferentz e.e. expert e.e. internationalist candidate of political sciences was in the studio as our guest further news ihor pupkov will tell about the most important thing for this moment and gifts we will return to live in ukraine sweet we need her protect protect your era nivroku the times of obsession will pass and for now keep yourself in a fistful of a hand more visible in time the destruction of people is the brightest let's hold on get the hell not just

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