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[000:00:00;00] there is already a solid foundation on which he can stand firmly and demand, i just can’t say to ask for delivery as soon as possible in this case, how much will it be six months and 9 months? well, this is already beyond my competence, i don’t want to turn into a fortune teller, mr. oleksandr thank you for the inclusion for your professional comments to our viewers. i think that the film espresso channel was oleksandr los, a doctor of technical sciences and a captain of the armed forces. so, we understand that the issue of obtaining combat aircraft is on the current political leadership is doing this as much as possible in order for it to happen as quickly as possible, we need to gain stamina so that the ukrainian army really received these samples of weapons and due to this, we won on the battlefield, these were the main results of the conversation about military western fighter jets for ukraine and later on the air espresso channels will be
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olha laziness and her chronicles of the information war olya, i congratulate you, i congratulate sergiya well, let's talk about the hybrid component, the component war and literally in a moment, about this congratulations, it was noticed a long time ago that the favorite course of action of the russian federation and putin is to raise the stakes at every new stage, and now we have such new clothes for the russian dictator, a situation when it is extremely difficult for him to play his favorite game, russia has practically exhausted the possibility of escalating the war by conventional means, moreover, the russian federation will definitely lose on the battlefield in the conventional war , the year 2021 ended with putin threatening the world with a major war in the hope of gaining control over ukraine without this
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war. it has been a year now. only he did not come close to his goal, on the contrary, he showed everyone that the army is not such a formidable force. therefore, he has only two levers of pressure left: the threat of nuclear weapons and the strengthening of the hybrid component of the war. and for the last two or three weeks, we have been observing a very active strengthening of the hybrid war rev activates its agency among professional pacifists in order to spread the movement against the armament of ukraine in the world and where it is explosive just such throwing of fakes into the world media and social networks, let's talk about this in more detail now but first of all, i paid attention to the fact that last week, russian propagandists suddenly began to discuss the fate of iraq and the trial of hussein. look, the invasion of verek is simply a forgery of fictional history, a lie , what did they agree with? they still believe that we acted correctly so far, no one has done any relaxation
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. so far, no one has been accused. so far, the international hall has not taken any measures to punish the united states. received an oil contract of 2 million tortured people from hunger and thirst and diseases of the dead and to explosions and mockery of the american military olga oshbyka oh something we there oshyasha razroblenny vybilon so download this value there are thousands of them exported 90% of the usa exported well that is, you know to tell that the americans did something somewhere in order to justify their own wars, well, this is very typical for russia, but here
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it’s not even just about this. such saddam's iraq only with nuclear weapons, by the way, that's where hussein tried to get nuclear weapons and the situation is actually very similar . isn't this paradoxical? the fact is that when did saddam hussein first start there . first, he started a war against iran. then he started a war against kuwait, it was a constant attempt to somehow expand his sphere of influence by military means, exactly as russia is doing after the war in kuwait. when in fact samud was pushed back to the territory of iraq, the world hoped that this would be something internal unrest in iraq, that is, it was a one hundred percent military defeat, and they hoped that saddam would be overthrown inside the country. it is paradoxical, but even the loss of the war did not lead to this. moreover , saddam tried
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to present his loss of the war to his own population as such, you know, even victory, the main message then was well, you see, they didn't dare to start fighting on the territory of iraq, they didn't dare, we repelled them, we didn't let them enter the territory of iraq , what am i talking about now, practically the world faces the same story in russia, very similar because well , few people doubt the ability to throw the russian federation out of ukraine, that it will be possible, maybe there, not in two or three months, but it is really, really, to push russia back to the borders. and then they arise again the impression is that there will be an internal coup, that putin will be overthrown and something better will happen, but the history of cancer shows that, well, here it is, you know, such a strange situation, not everything is so clear-cut, and that there
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, too, after that, the russian government can start to tell well, they didn't dare to enter our territory, what's more, they are already talking about it on their broadcasts , see some people are writing about how the us mall is preparing for the marakh scenario well, i would say so but no russia compare russia with the arab scenario well, i will not explain correctly yes, there really was a war, and cancer was smoked, yes, then, and cancer was squeezed out of the cavity, but in fact, the american victory over the fighting took place when a huge multi-nosed coalition invaded iraq , a very small country, by the way, they say yes and i occupied it completely, completely expanded it in the military plan , but i am personally convinced that nothing can be selected in relation to russia. there may be some failures in the ukrainian theater of military operations . as if sooner or later we will definitely play it if they are friends. yes, but these are nonsense about the military , as if to defeat russia, eh, and even more so the comparison there with some freaks or proch
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prophete, they are so incorrect, that is, now in fact, the main question of the world is not even whether to win there or not to win russia, what to do after they reach the borders of russia, i will not develop this opinion further for now, just think about it and you will understand that this question is very relevant and it exists . well and now let's get back to our fakes, more precisely to the russian fakes , er, yes, this is the first biggest such fake that was launched this week, it's actually about the fact that the investigation about the alleged undermining of the northern streams by the united states came out, and it of course, it was most widespread in russia, they talk about it a lot. look at the article by kirsch, it is called how america destroyed the pipeline to the nord stream, and the entire scheme of the secret sea operation is detailed in them . so , washington is preparing to blow up russian gas lines. even before the start of the special operation in ukraine in december 2021, the ideological inspirational sabotage became
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the us president 's national security adviser baltops 22 was put into action by the american military, azov issued glue, or 3 months later, at the end of september, the explosives were activated. norwegians helped in this. they dropped a diversionary radiobuoy in the area, from which a signal was transmitted to norway. kirsch writes to attract specially. she was interested in the liquidation of the nord stream, what really? a very well-known journalist who even received a police-police award, he had several high-profile investigations , including, for example, an investigation into crimes it's interesting. in principle, it wasn't the discovery of yorsh, it was the main data before that , what he threw out, it was an internal
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investigation of the us authorities, uh, in this prison. well, but now his reputation, you know, is very controversial because uh for decades, he has been publishing such data that he doesn't, well, he simply doesn't confirm them with anything, for example, in 1986, he published a book in which he made such an assumption that the soviet union shot down a south korean airliner because it mistook it for an american spy plane, even soviet archives they are debunking this version, it is simply false. well, it's just a fiction, and in 2001 he talked about the fact that 16 american warplanes took part in a raid on the small camp of muhammed amarov in afghanistan. although at that time there were only nine of them in the entire region airplanes that were never used at the same time there
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were no more than two airplanes in the air well, he had a lot of them, he confused the price of drones there, he just made up that uh, the united states is going to invade iran, well, it's so very a controversial person and that's why the russians, in fact, after three days after it spread, all the information that he threw out. well , i would say they are disappointed with how this information is spread and how it is treated in the world in a blog in their own blog. journal preferences will notice an investigation possible due to censorship, a message from a news agency, reuter , yes, even then, he invoiced the article to me, guys . well, the reaction is weak so far. yes, this is not the most
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authoritative known european policy. первые на маргализированные yes they are apparently busy with zelensky's meeting and pretend that nothing is happening, there is no direct evidence of us patroshev on the stone declared that we do not know who blew them up yes that is well yes yes yes yes another such fake that literally even their one parliamentarian at first a week ago, i threw it out. look at this little plot, questions are being raised, eh, and about trade in organs, eh, all the best, eh, soldier of luck in ukraine, ah, um, all the time, ukrainians talked about it being impossible, these organs they live there for two hours and so on. in fact, it turned out that there are technologies that allow these organs to be frozen for a few days, and in normal conditions, these technologies are used
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. by the outlet of the second army corps with the guardsmen, we are moving towards the current ukrainian positions among the ukrainian military, the so-called black transplantologists can work, interestingly, i don’t know what, they suggested that it is for storage. well, no fortune teller i don’t know what it’s for well, i think we can guess on one sleep all the way we saw how our servicemen discovered a container for the transportation of internal organs and here indeed there is a question why he was in the ukrainian positions there is an assumption that this is an indirect confirmation of a story about black transplant specialists who er can work in a war zone, that during the war in
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yugoslavia, these stories appeared , by the way, er, after they found this container for the transportation of organs. just to the statistics, it is true here in the world, well, especially in israel, over the past year, the number of transplants , for example , yes, such an operation has increased dramatically war, then russia immediately starts talking about organ transplants , which is simply impossible in combat conditions, in principle , well, this is absolutely impossible. well, uh, this is all against the background of the fact that they, well, literally constantly now say again that there are none crimes on the territory of ukraine look at the agenda today is not improving the quality of life in britain, but increasing the number of deaths in ukraine, a british instructor trains ukrainian marine fighter pilots
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, they have already trained 10,000 ukrainian soldiers, many of them died or surrendered, they took the entire mr. palace where last september, for 10 days, the coffin of queen elizaveta was standing. zelensky read a 20-minute speech for a fundraising event , apparently written by a native english speaker. among other things, zelensky reminded the audience that king karl the pilot did not ask him to be mobilized and sent to ukraine . zelensky also presented the speaker of the british parliament with an inscribed member of the ukrainian pilot without nazi symbols and asked in exchange for this souvenir fighters, well, that thing we don't have it now they are like this and this is what happened, it was just an example of how it is now in the news, in the news , where they are supposed to not express any opinions, but to inform, they provide information about
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zelenskyi's trip, but i want to talk in general, eh about all this with oksana moroz, the founder of the initiative on how to become a vegetable, who is very active and very professionally monitors all these fakes, because it is not even just a fake . well, everything else is somehow, some other way . oksana, congratulations. and i would like you to comment to me this news, because i think it is something magical, and then olga. greetings, greetings. listeners or viewers , actually, all these stories, they are, when i watched them , what happened to you? a reminder that russian propaganda is based on to the endless repetition of the same ones, also in very different formats, from different groupers, and so on, if we now look at our information space and look at what they share, what they do not pay attention to, what are some of the key information operations in them
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well, that's one of them. it will be everything related to the mobilization and the failure to show the huge number of victims who are allegedly on the side of the armed forces. and actually this is what they are trying to emphasize in very different moments, but i am sure that this is a fake as far as transportology is concerned, it is also in the same direction, but it is still there, er, there, if you look at how they showed it , they showed it in the anti-corruption block , that is, it has two tasks, that is, on the one hand, look. this is not how they make money. how do they make money from the other side? look at the big sacrifices . well, a. and actually the second such important point is that everything that is connected is related to mobilization and not actually to show that in ukraine they do not want to mobilize in order to ukraine is big problems with mobilization e and actually tie it to the great sacrifice e that is why in fact this is what they say in the so-called news
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or in their programs e it absolutely not only works for their audience it also takes and ties these are the messages that they are now actively broadcasting to ukrainian or primarily to ukrainian and western audiences. well, it was mentioned there that they did not mobilize the king . well, how can you mobilize even more? compare it secondly they managed to make a news story in which it is not even clear where the action actually takes place, that is, where the queen's coffin stood . sorry, it is not profitable for them to name the onion and point out the huge importance of the very place where zelenskyi spoke, and the fact that it is really a very iconic place
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yes, that is, it’s not news, it’s something like that, but what you said, oksana, is it in general, this week , it’s just like that, too. an avalanche of fakes was thrown through a turkish newspaper at first, no. then went out a person who has been cooperating with russia for a long time, this is who they present as an adviser to the pentagon, macgregor, who also said that he knows how to be diligent, he told skillfully about some huge losses, and here he gives some numbers. at the same time, they talk about e 18,000 mercenaries who also died there in ukraine are foreign , well, that is, completely unrealistic numbers with which in reality they are trying to beat their own numbers of losses, this is firstly and secondly, this is one way to show the world that ukraine cannot losses to fight and, accordingly, there is no need to supply weapons, but i think that there is another
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purely psychological thing that they are trying to direct at the ukrainians, because in parallel with this, they are running, you know, such very broad fakes that they are. well, i have already talked about it in past programs they invented a refrigerator with the bodies of ukrainian soldiers that was supposedly standing on the border with hungary. it has been there since the summer because of what they have been distributing. well , tell me it is possible for this to happen and no one anywhere knew about it, it is impossible in principle but those no less, it is spreading. why is this all going on massively now, and it is clearly massive until then, when the preparations and the start of the actual russian offensive take place. and you know, i also wanted to draw attention to one important point here, that fakes are fakes, and there are ukrainians in a certain number ukrainians are already immune to them, in this situation they are more concerned about the information operations that they conduct
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, in which you, ukrainians , are involved. the last year after the full-scale invasion, uh, clearly due to an escalation at the front, clearly under some specific counteroffensives, it rises, and how it rises, it rises due to the spread of some viral videos. or out of 60 of ours have returned from captivity and are all neutered . please tell the boys not to go milking, or as it is now very much such an idea , purposeful work is being created by groups a , supposedly to search for the missing, they are initial technologies are created, they are created in general, even very often not by slavic accounts, not here and there, a mass photo of allegedly soldiers who disappeared in the forest is being distributed, and that there have already been a lot of investigations , that these are generally photos of people who
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died a long time ago and who died back in the 14th, 16th year and so on. and what do they want to do with this? on the one hand, they create this mass of people who literally disappear in the war. missing persons, so that they would publish their data, and in this way, two birds with one stone are killed, and data is collected, and this also affects the way in which people are actually returned from captivity, and data on parts and a lot of other information is collected, so i am about i would like to emphasize once again that please treat these so-called groups or reports of missing people very carefully, because that is how you can meet really real people who are looking for their relatives. but is it useful or is it even possible to find this information through such groups because if you appeal to the people who are currently on the front lines, then they definitely do not sit in these groups and do not read these
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messages, and if we talk about the enemy, then unfortunately he will find a lot of information from there. therefore, before spreading such information, it is very necessary to to check and think whether we are not helping the enemy because all this is part of this information operation to maximize losses by putting pressure on ukrainians to er destabilize the situation on mobilization and so on and so on unfortunately well and unfortunately i will say that because of these groups are trying to attack the relatives of those people who are fighting on the front line and put pressure on them, that is, when it's just relatives who are sitting in the rear and who are, well, sometimes they worry too much, let's just say a little bit , they can't help anything and so they think that if they spread some screams and uh, screams that something is wrong and is happening uh, then they
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will help with this. no, friends, we will not help with this. of how your loved ones are fighting where they are fighting and then it flies there after them because you started shouting about it in social networks very untimely and the enemy found out where to look for your loved ones who are sitting on the front lines, this also happens, moreover, i will tell you that such a story, right now, it is also several weeks this is going on, a telegram channel has been created, the digital army of russia, which is being created, uh, well, they involve russians in creating such comments and distributing them in ukrainian telegram channels, that is, they literally follow the comments in ukrainian telegram channels in ukrainian, there, well, where they can go to youtube , for example, and uh, they spread some kind of fakes , they spread some panicky rumors, they spread all kinds of panicky moods, and this is literally also them. in this way , first of all, they attract their population and other
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they are trying to get ukrainian resources to close their comments from this kind of directed hate, because they involve, in addition to the fact that they involve bots - it's like software, but they involve real russians in it they are trying to make it so that ukrainians , when they close comments under ukrainian resources, go to the russian resources of telegram channels and try to find out some information . i think it's a bit strange, you know, this is the situation because when a normal ukrainian with memory came to comment on russian resources , i'll tell you there, there's just such trash and screams and such hatred for ukrainians that it's rather
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creates a generally negative background. but nevertheless, it seems to me that it is necessary to pay close attention to what is happening in the comments and pay close attention to what some unknown person writes in the comments, which i know for sure because you are very likely to be a russian who participates in absolutely planned companies, especially if they appeal to certain operations to certain parts and to certain specific events , this information must be checked because they know very well that if they just write what is there and do not go to fight for the country of the oligarchs like thieves, it will be one emotional reaction. and when i write what is there, i know for sure that someone stole something there, or there is such and such a commander of such and such a unit, he is such and such a scoundrel, and trust the second one . unfortunately, there will be more that there is rational information out there. well, i see even on our social networks a lot of such comments
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, no. that's why there are such targeted attacks . check carefully even if you see specific parts there, especially when you see specific parts of specific people and so on, well, look , i would like to hear from you, you know . well, it is clear that the year of the war is not just that, people feel psychologically . constant pressure is a lot scary information , we constantly see some scary pictures . some of the people really experienced it, so you have to understand it, a large number of people who really saw the victims, really saw some explosions, really lost their homes there uh, they lost friends and relatives, well, that's all, it's all quite a difficult psychological situation, and it's obvious that the enemy understands that uh, well, there is an opportunity to put pressure on it, and you know how not to fall into such a negativity, because well, this is
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where it goes, that is in fact, now i see that the russian psychological attack is on the rise, it is not only about some outright fakes , not only to sow mistrust, but simply to raise such-and-such, you know, such-and-such, a generally negative mood, you are all gone, this is bad, there is no hope, we will all die, tell me how ukrainians to be in this situation because well, it will increase. you go to social networks and sometimes it is impossible to just read this negativity without such. the first thing that countermeasures starts with is understanding what is happening, and really now everyone needs to clearly understand that we are experiencing another peak. this is such emotional incitement and the enemy is doing it from absolutely different sides, the shelling that was massed today, actually, information about losses, information about mobilization , information about another offensive from belarus, what some other people came in and so on. this is all
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in order to put pressure on a person from different sides with different messages. someone will be oppressed by turning off the lights once again. and someone there is a message against attacks from belarus. one day they will finish the losses and so on. this is the first important point . the second important point is to understand where it is spreading, because it is not spread by the ukrainian media, it is spread by anonymous kana, and everyone has already said that please unsubscribe from anonymous channels, unfortunately, people do not unsubscribe, i think there are some insights there unfortunately, anonymous telegram channels have only one goal: to misinform , er, so that a person believes in this misinformation, they will mix in truth and half-truth , but the main goal to which they lead us is disinformation, and it is precisely in such emotional operations that we are now in these channels play a key role, these channels are of two types, the first is those that directly specialize in insiders, they say that we have insider information everywhere and so on, and the second is those that are so
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-called anonymous news aggregators if you watched even today how the information about a non-massive missile strike was covered, it was precisely in such channels that information appeared just about rockets flying, and so on, that's why they always inflate. they always try to publish information first and they never check it because to be the first to publish information and to verify information are antonyms, it is simply impossible to do, because every media needs at least a few minutes or even hours to check it, so if you go to there is a resource that publishes supposedly news, you cannot find a real media, a real journalistic team, a real editorial team behind it, that is, a site to see who works there, what their reputation is and so on , please do not take information from this because it is the same tool for misinformation, if you exclude at least these two components from your information space, this will already give a significant improvement
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in your and your emotional state and how much pressure you will have on these information operations because the enemy does not act on the us with the help of some russian resources or russian bloggers there because he knows that we don't read them, they package information under allegedly inside information, they are trying to fill it, these are the gaps that we have because we want to know the answers to which questions does not exist, when the war will end, when our counteroffensive will begin, when we will enter the crimea, there are no answers to these questions, but when he mixes things up, he actually can, and there is a third important source, which is the so-called various fortune-tellers numerologists, astrologers, and so on, these are the same anonymous sources , it’s just that this information is presented in a different way, if you go and watch their videos, for example, on the same tik tok, you will see that they are predicting the coming of blackouts, etc. that is, they are talking about all these key theses about which russian propaganda works, they work in the same way. therefore

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