[000:00:00;00] of course, come and get a doctor's consultation, carry out an ecg, an ultrasound examination of everything possible, we have specialists who conduct all open examinations , do express tests, take a blood test, if this is necessary, take smears, if this is necessary, and further consult on the same day or in this is the same time to re-determine the diagnosis and issue medications; if you do not issue medications , the probability that patients will find them on their own somewhere will buy them through volunteers will bring a very minimal amount especially to very dangerous areas where sometimes we stop by, we understand that no one else has gone there except us, so it is very important to give the patients medicines, tell them how to take them, how often, and so on, so this is the main thing, what we

do, help us, and how do you proceed we have absolutely two directions of assistance , it can be planned, for example, assistance, we understand that now we cannot help the patient, let's assume that surgical intervention is necessary in such a case, our doctors first of all, they try to take the contacts of these patients and discuss with them, firstly, the possible consequences if they do not come for surgery, or secondly, what to do to eliminate some pathological process there , to cure something, if it is surgical intervention, treatment that requires inpatient treatment, but planned, that is, that which it is possible to postpone .

in private centers, we are able to help these patients come to be examined, have an operation and then return home if they want it, of course, if they don't want it, for example, you should be guided somewhere further , because we also had such cases, we were intermediate points and then patients were evacuated from dangerous territory and the second option - this is an oral situation, that is , emergency care, yes, we transport the patient to the nearest medical institution, we already have relationships with the management of clinics in these territories where we work and they are absolutely with honor to say that they accept our patients uh and we have never been refused in organ cases ah i understood bohdan, that is, you independently negotiate with hospitals that can accept this or that patient so absolutely true who helps financially at all if we say for example, about private hospitals

when we talk about medicines, but in general , it is necessary somehow to maintain a team of these doctors who will make trips to the de-occupied territories, if we are talking about hospitals, if a patient comes to the state, then our ministry through the national health service, it covers the costs of what it can cover, if any help is needed from us in the form of medicines , medical investigators, we are trying to provide this for doctors who work in public hospitals, if we say for medicines, the equipment that is in our mission, because these are still expensive devices that we have to trade, medicines are mostly sent to the nation from international partners, or if we are talking about funding, it can be to the nation from

people who will donate to our organization well, then these funds will be directed to the medical support of our mission , mr. bohdan well, actually, i want to thank you for our conversation today, for giving us your time and wish you only the best in your work and thank you for coordinating this whole process , doing this and helping people in the occupied territories, thank you , we were just contacted by bohdana avramenko , project coordinator and therapist, cardiologist , doctors who volunteer in their free time and they go to the de-occupied territories in order to help people well, let's move on to our next communication, and literally now we will be in touch with the infectious disease doctor oksana vygovska, i want to say that she regularly travels to

the de-occupied and front-line zones to examine patients and he sees with his own eyes the conditions they are in and how the war affects their health. mrs. oksana , i congratulate you. and you have seen the problems in the territories that were under occupation from the first days of the war. you were in the kyiv region during it. during the occupation, they provided medical care there, now they have joined the volunteer doctors who constantly conduct receptions in the liberated regions, so i want to ask you to tell me personally what impresses you the most, what health problems you see in adults and children. congratulations ms. iryna, well, first of all, this whole the problem and that pathology can be divided into two situations. as an infectious disease specialist, i see acute pathology of an infectious nature, for example

, respiratory viral diseases. well, i have bronchitis, a large number of pathological lesions er, from skin changes of fungal or bacterial origin, i see, for example, an infectious pathology of chronic er, to which patients in those areas did not have access to medication er, this is a reception, for example , of antiretroviral therapy as a patient. e-e drugs for the treatment of chronic viral hepatitis b and viral hepatitis c e as an infectious disease specialist e-e given that i do most of the sorting and triage, that is , i ask for complaints, ask for anamnesis, look at

the documentation and try to see specialists, and after i already accept this as an e-e specialist e-e what is the problem of almost every first person , that is, it won’t even bite the second one there is a combined pathology e-e a large number of chronic diseases a-e for example just such hmm combined e-e combined pathology is pathology from the side of the cardiovascular system plus diabetes, moreover, very often this is the first time that arterial hypertension is detected - this is the first time that diabetes is detected, which the patients did not know about and did not even suspect.

a surgical one that requires immediate surgical intervention, and hospitalization, and we carried out this specialization, mrs. oksana, we very often hear such an expression as doctors are heroes, and i can also call you a doctor, a heroine, now for everything. i know that hero doctors are ordinary people with their feelings and problems and tell me if it is difficult to be a volunteer doctor physically and morally in general, well, doctors on heroiv doctors are medical angels yes, when it is difficult to be a volunteer doctor both physically and morally sometimes why because you work er your own work schedule and then weekends, you go and spend the weekend er providing help and therefore physically, especially if

it is a mission from a mission, departure after departure plus er well, let's add here more er means of protection, that is, a bulletproof vest, a fairy tale. how much do i work for? part of it is precisely on departures er and not only in work in bomb shelters, namely not on departures so well, during the day, you wear clothes because your safety is extremely important, this is additional weight, so you don’t just walk around. during the day, you climb , descend, squat, climb e also carries something, the conditions of which are different you are on the train in the morning. you should already be in strya. you should look good, smile at her and work, uh. and so there may be periods when we are not physically tired. and

regarding the emotional side. here is a question from two sides, on the one hand, you are emotionally tired, you ask yourself questions, for example: why are there so many of them and why do many children stay in certain places? and why don't they leave? and how can you help? because, for example, especially at the beginning, only if it is a de-occupied territory or they are going very close to the front line, there is not always a branch of the new post , volunteers cannot always get there, but on the other hand , after such missions, you have a clean soul , a clean conscience, because a

- do you understand that you have done what you can directly do as a doctor for our general victory and this is your dot of help and contribution made by thousands of our compatriots, no , oksana, i am not just at the beginning of our conversations, she said that you have been to many regions, and i want to know where it was actually the most difficult for you, probably one of those places that really impressed me at the level of a pediatrician because i am a children's fixonist , er, it must have been siversk, er, i think those photos that uh, well, we uh, on the screen, we saw hmm, now uh, photos that are in many uh, foreign publications, because

somehow they got uh, uh, in the city at the same time, journalists, these are photos of seversk , this is a photo of children children who are in storage in basements for a long time the conditions in which the child cannot be because we understand that it is cold, it is dark, it is dampness, fungus is a disease, it is a deficiency of vitamins t, food that does not meet the needs of the child, and families do not leave, e. well, already arriving, for example, the whole city the second time i already specifically understood what children are, what their needs are, what they need, and already, for example, when i went to the mission

, i went not only as a volunteer doctor . then you just now have an opportunity for sure. as you emphasized to the infectious disease doctor, especially to the pediatric doctor, you should definitely turn to all ukrainians who are watching us now and say that we have already repeatedly said on our broadcasts that children and women have no place in those regions where hostilities are taking place. therefore, please take the children out so as not to expose them to danger tomorrow. this region can really be occupied. all

the parents and i, the mother, are watching. evacuation, medical evacuation, we always ask the question why do people stay there, everyone has different reasons for staying there, mainly it is the fear of the unknown, what will be ahead , i understand you perfectly, because fear is inherent in each of us when you really do not know what will happen, but children - this is our future, this is our present, and they should build and develop, rebuild our country and move forward, so think about our future, about your future, about the future of your kind, your family, children must be worthy

conditions and to be born before spinal conditions, they must be healthy, they must be happy, ms. oksana, would you like to ask one more thing about whether volunteer doctors have enough for their work and whether all opportunities are open to them, because we are talking here about what can be invited, for example people who need help go to other cities, they will be provided with medical care in hospitals and even in private hospitals . is it always that simple and do people always agree to it first of all? these patients are different. how many do we have? well, not one mission, not two, not five, and the number of people who have passed through our hands is measured by a very large number of thousands. yes, we have a lot of our own experience . patients are really different, that is, i am patients who are very easy and who

respond quickly when there is one doctor and we very often do consults . you say what you need urgent hospitalization or, for example, during such a period of time, you need to be hospitalized, and patients specify and ask where, and we have doctors from different cities of ukraine traveling with us, and there are then we call it, for example, it can be kharkiv or it can be kyiv, for example, choose where it is convenient for you and our patients yes they come to kyiv and kharkiv they then look forward to a-a they are waiting for us in those cities when we return we return er-er we know

our patients er-e we communicate we pass the medicine as it is maybe i patients who it takes time, there are patients who will not come, despite the fact that you talked, now you have done, they are afraid or they do not have opportunities or they are a lonely person who is physically difficult to get around or leave your house, so the situations here are different well, in fact, the volunteer community is it is very strong, it is very powerful and uh, we find opportunities to actively help each other and, in principle , so far we have not had a single case when we could not help a person, this applies to both drugs and surgical intervention hospitalization i want to thank you for being with us today ms. oksana and indeed

for your work and above all for your dedication to your profession thank you madam and i want to remind you that oksana vygovska, an infectious disease doctor, was in touch with us and thank you to all those doctors like skala ms. oksana doctors angels who help people and help people during the war and we are in touch with another doctor who regularly travels with charity rescue missions to the frontline areas his patients are primarily women i want to introduce to you obstetrician-gynecologist reproductologist serhiy baksheev, mr. serhiy i welcome you today on our broadcast congratulations glory to ukraine glory to the heroes mr. serhiy, so what health problems do you personally find most often in the de-occupied territories we have been traveling a lot in the occupied territories since march and

during the liberation we see different issues, different problems. at first, these were acute diseases, now they are chronic diseases , chronic stress. and you know many women who went through certain years of the war without medical those diseases that could have been detected six months ago, for example, because medical examinations are not carried out, examinations are not carried out and, unfortunately, we sometimes come across simply neglected neglected cases of diseases that stand on the temple between oncological disease and cancer diseases, mr. sergi, about it's about the regions in which regions. and what

impressed you the most, and each region impresses you differently . i was very impressed. i was very impressed . such a number of such a number of patients with a pathological climax with hot flashes with uh, you know from hot flashes, the limit of which we have not seen in kyiv for a long time, for example, who need hormone replacement therapy , i did not see so many people at the appointment, it turned me upside down and impressed me so much that we even began to transfer replacement therapy drugs there , to persuade people that their lives there could improve if they received this treatment

, to provide drugs for three months a year, and for me. for the doctor, it was so vulnerable because that i have long been accustomed to the fact that as soon as the decrease in estrogens begins and the number of women enter this period of menopause and the period of transition ahead of me , they turn to us doctors, we carry out the work, we say what examination needs to be done and we treat it, and there they are with e- this one fell out, and in kherson on my last trip, i don't know how we will see now. on the last trip, we discovered quite a lot of tumors that are related to the fact that for almost six months there , people did not consult a doctor for 9 months.

there are several patients in kyiv, moreover, i must tell you that the people of kherson are not incredible people, but we agreed with them , we said that they need treatment, they say that we do not have money, we treat without money , you have a contract with the national health service just come. okay, we're going back to kyiv on monday. on monday, several patients are already calling me. they say we'll be there tomorrow. i'm saying how . tomorrow we'll be there tomorrow. she'll meet you at the station in life . we'll meet you at the station. we arrived and immediately took them to the hospital. unfortunately, we are now in the third maternity hospital is not able to work. because during the war

, most of the doctors of the third maternity hospital were dismissed in kyiv, so the doctors work in other hospitals that provided the conditions and free of charge. conditions that were due to negligence , which could have been prevented or could have been diagnosed or cured if it had been six months ago, sergey, well, on the other hand, it is very good that you have met just such people who still take care of their health because you invited them to kyiv for treatment and they immediately agreed because , for example, ms. oksana and i talked about the fact that there are cases when it is very difficult to persuade people to we also came for some kind of additional examination or surgery

, that is, i understood you correctly that oncological diseases also occur quite often. seversky er, family, children, and it is impossible to take them from there. i say people, you are leaving, and volunteers provide you with conditions, they take you away, they take your things, your children, no, this is our land, we will not go , our delegation was in bakhmat, the same situation is with the children, and they cannot be taken out because they don't at least leave, i want to tell everyone who watches us, those who need any medical treatment, not only in the cavity , freshmen studies in other specialties , please come and take our contacts, we are on social networks, block on social network and you will be able to find our phone number, call, say what city you are from and we will organize medical care for you in relation to our specialization - it is always

qualified medical care, unfortunately for me , we can always buy you tickets and make sure that you get to kyiv, but i personally and my friends will meet you frida, our organization will help you, all doctors work in very different hospitals in the city of kyiv, which will provide you with help, and you will not need to rent an apartment or a hotel or something else, we can accommodate you in a hospital until you are examined check and see what happens to you

. everything will be fine and then you will go home, mr. sergey. i have a rather delicate question for you regarding rape victims and abortions. of the country, she will appear in the kaaz. i think that more than one person from the russians should be punished for these crimes that they committed against our people, but i personally, since the release of buchi , when i was approached as a doctor , i refused to communicate with these women because they are under such stress that i, as a man, never have the right, as a psychologist , a man also does not have the right to do this during the entire time of my trips, i have not performed a single abortion, i have not had such patients, as i say this frankly, and i have e- there were no women who were after the rape, of course we communicate, people tell us a lot about the atrocities in the occupation

, i was impressed by a boy from kherson who said that his friend was beaten, his friend was abused and miraculously it did not happen to him there, boys 10-11 years ago, but regarding termination of pregnancy in relation to mounted women, i did not communicate with them, not because i could not do it or did not want to do it, i believe that there are female specialists who should provide this medical care . chav of the kyiv region immediately after the occupation. we looked at pregnant women, but you know that pregnant women are still more or less organized by the post office of our country. do they

leave or do they have remote doctors? during the war, we gave birth remotely. i had several such messages on my phone when i prayed to the midwifery gods at night that everything would go well and that there would be no real complications. because nature, after all, is above the ukrainians, she helps us and this midwifery fate, the fate of the birth of this child , these children. she is, well, from my the dawn of a small such remote birth was still wonderful, uh, now there are not many pregnant women in those territories that we

will examine. our conversation with you i actually also want to thank you for your work for what you do with volunteering in your free time, i also want our country to kneel for me, the flag of ukraine will not kneel, this is another message from our doctors we are reformatting our state and i wish all of us to hold hands after the victory and wait for the birth of real ukrainians. glory to ukraine, my hero slavko was serhiy baksheev , obstetrician-gynecologist, reproductive specialist, medical volunteer movement, frida, in general, we today they talked about ukrainian doctors who, despite everything, are not afraid and go to de-occupied territories and provide help to people who

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