[000:00:00;00] i'm iryna koval, i'm saying goodbye to you , i wish you a quiet, peaceful evening and a quiet night. take care, let's listen to people who suffer from rheumatism. it's arthritic, it's impossible to get used to it, it doesn't allow you to move. relieves rheumatism reduces swelling and improves joint mobility long crimea for joint and back pain no matter what ukrainians think about, no matter what they talk about, the first place is still war war and our

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with the appearance of western main battle tanks in the line-up, it will be interesting, the gift turned on closer to the ukrainian positions, russian mines interfere, that is why they did not reach you, although something will fly again, you have to wait until it gets quiet and completely dark. no, it was very cool , we took advantage of the darkness and slightly snowy weather to try closer to go to the position of the ukrainian soldiers, well, the dugouts. well, when bakhmut meets them, the commander says for the interception, we hear that the russian troops have rotated here, now they are fighting with the paratroopers, they pressed the members of the replenishment, they pressed themselves. well, they themselves communicate constantly as parakeets, and well, it can be seen that when these personnel are military, then i am not a professional, but also a military man. at first, he

voluntarily came to the war there, but well, over the years there, for almost a year of war, well, you can learn already find out where this person is, who has just left the zone there and picked up a walkie-talkie and does not know how to communicate with bcm e because a person who communicates professionally determines the azimuths there and communicates more about, well, more through hidden channels there, communication with the hidden language. that is, we clearly know that wagner was standing here cheaply , but wagner is all over. this is one of the preparations for the assault on the ukrainian positions in this direction. explodes a few meters from the assembly point and was also disrupted earlier they could simply give their living power and now they iron iron iron and pull up a little bit of

their strength, that is, they work there with their own means 120 or 80 lng ags and after that the infantry does not come out and the move does not take much risk . assaults and yes, working, the strongest of the defenders of ukraine. we stand here in defense of the motherland, in defense of our homes, our villages, our cities. morally , we have a higher bar than it is four broadcasts , usually a map, a signal, a gatekeeper is afraid of call sign artist, he worked as an actor at the lesya ukrainka theater in kyiv for 17 years and now commands a unit under the same bahmut four days ago there was a general erudge that has never been seen and in 11 months of war 10

km of the front simultaneously went on the offensive and the distance between the orks it was 20 m, that is, such a density. at the same time, we have never seen a squall and it happened for about an hour, it was just trash , but they survived, made an impression on him, and normally, the equipment is less than, for example, in the north or the border. well, because landings are not very, well, it allows everything to be very open, we have a bird's eye view, they don't have such an opportunity if we want this question to be gone. well, we constantly work with talent, when we work at tables, they keep their problems there, trying to solve them, they already forget what they wanted to go to when will the offensive come, unfortunately, it is already too late for the artillery and lng to work , that is, we can adjust as much as possible where they are coming from and how they are in order for our commanders to be able to transmit

information in a timely manner, because moving everything is already there it depends on the guys, that is, we can only observe the shot of various rack-mounted grenade launchers, machine guns, and minor interspersions of equipment, and taking into account the mobilization of many formed units in the defense forces , riflemen, that is, they have a rather limited arsenal of weapons, because the army has significantly increased in number, but the equipment still has to be resisted for that so that means a tank needs to be hunted for, it's a whole huge procedure strategy and so on and so on he doesn't stand still, he moves to a certain distance it works and it turns out very rarely when they work now already from closed positions with caponers and so on, so it will detect it and then hit a moving target, it is

quite difficult, the government t-72 tanks arrived from poland with almost zero mileage in the months of the war and have already suffered damage from the enemy's fire, they are broken here , because the holes are so named, the holes were torn even in the last part . well, they will ride as if they were knocked down, i know , as if on a bad cart. yes, i was sitting there on a rickshaw . they didn't ride like that. as a child, for that battle in the kharkiv region in the spring, igor received the gold star of a hero, the highest award in ukraine, during the advance, after being hit by an rpg, the commander lost contact with the mechanic driver and climbed onto the armor to remove the tank from the battlefield , although at the same time the enemy fired three rockets at the tank

grenades, the combat vehicle eventually successfully retreated without losses, the russian positions were not far away, that is, before the landing , it ran 3,600 meters. you know, there will be a store opening here, that store will lose nothing with a bang after the bottom and from here, the last one is there streaked, and 20 is already how long you stood on the armor while giving it back. there we were driving not far from the landing 50 meters, that is, forward there it goes fast and back very slowly. the games were mobilized in march and mastered the tank from scratch. it was drilled by a graduate with such a call sign , ugly, who quickly stood up system due to the russian invasion. he had a month to prepare people for war with him - it was not, well, not difficult, because he is a person who

wants, who climbs on his own, who asks himself , looks, so if a person wants, it is not very difficult well, not difficult enough. i was alone in this process. at the beginning, there were no squad commanders, so they were trained at the very beginning of the beginning, they were formed from them into some teams , some crews. yes, it was a little difficult for me myself, but after they passed more the officers in my unit became easier, i trained the officers, and the officers had already trained personally in their first battle, driving eight tanks on an old t-72, the graduate went forward , suppressed the machine gun, but the side of his tank was pierced and the gunner was wounded. however, the officer changed tanks and continued to lead his unit and we went forward because the infantry was hiding behind us, because i understand very well that one bullet of

its infantry can be either wounded or killed. the moment the enemy rpg ran out of the landing, well, the occupiers and she started firing with rpgs, this is a long distance, it was 3:20, according to the data of the letter balance, before the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine, the troops had up to a thousand tanks, the majority of which is 64 in combat ukrainian the army lost more than 450, about the same number of t-72s were received from the allies, but their reserves are decreasing; ukrainians need tanks equal to or superior to russian tanks, even taking into account statistics, it seems that russia was able to get t-80 tanks that were in

storage and deliver them to the ukrainian shadow theater in ukraine, western tanks are needed for the offensive, which have better protection and , what is important, better visibility, which is superior to most russian tanks or the same as theirs, the tank fleet of the armed forces will soon grow, the united states will send 31 abrams and great britain 14 challenger two leopard-2 transmission can be expected from at least 10 countries, but how many of them will be unclear donbas realities according to their data doctors balance calculated the number of leopards in the country of operators starting with version 2:4 as the most massive and which as well as two six exactly ukraine receives in this there is no list of austria and hungary, which officially refused to supply arms to ukraine , there is no certain amount that can be said about which if you give so much, they will do whatever they want, first of all it is about combining

all the tools that ukraine receives yes, i i think you need more than three hundred, think about the size of the units of the combination of forces, the intelligence about it is strengthened, a breakthrough of the defense is needed to carry out a major operation , battalions of brigades are needed, even armored divisions need more than 100-300, it will be great , more is even better. tanks are used on the battlefield and in defense, and we have the task of detecting the enemy's firepower and ensuring combat operations, primarily of mechanized and

motorized infantry units, when tank crews and the tank platoon conducts reconnaissance, calls artillery fire, adjusts artillery fire, and fires at long ranges from positions unusual for us, when there are two-level trenches for firing . this is what a soviet tank looks like from the gunner’s position. a significant reservation and there is always little space in all soviet tanks is this about those 64 t-72 t-80 they do not have a charger in their crew instead there is an automatic system it is either an automatic charger or a charging mechanism so when it is about the future transition of the ukrainian army to western tanks, the army will have to train a new member of the charging crew, it happens that even today it is out of order

, sometimes water gets on the e-e wiring and it does not always charge, it does not always work correctly , and the commander or gunner still has to put at the same time charging and distracting from one's direct duties therefore charging it will be much better purely due to the fact that the person started charging and despite the obvious advantages of western tanks , ukraine will not be able to use them here and now, in addition to training the crews, it is necessary to establish logistics and service in the application of this for ukraine, poland may become poland, where at the end of the 90s , about 850 soviet t-72s of various modifications were in service, the first leopards. in

2002, warsaw ordered another batch for 10 years and now in the armament of the polish army there are more than two hundred leopards now in ukraine, the battalion is 31 tanks, er, the battalion of vehicles we have, er, 58, that is, much more, and this also changes the issue of logistics and training, which type of ammunition, in fact, everything in fact everything had to be built from scratch and if it took time in our case it took it took time er it was at least several years, most likely the leopard 2 will not become a tank of the polish army, last year it was announced that the purchase of abrams and later korean k2 tanks was planned of the polish army to completely abandon soviet vehicles already now warsaw has transferred a third of its t-72s to ukraine in the future it is possible to transfer an even larger number of leopards, of which 14 units have been announced so far, or will it be possible for more tanks with

poland for chains to ukraine. it will all depend on how long it takes from the moment we ordered these tanks from the usa and south korea to the moment when they are already in the center from the units of the polish armed forces , then the first 116 reached this first batch. and if i am not mistaken, this is the year 294, our neighbor and ally, poland, is the operator of leopard 2a4 tanks and leopard-2pl, and it has sufficient experience in operation, maintenance and repair, and it has absolutely all the infrastructure

and for maintenance and repair unfortunately uh, about abrams, about the infrastructure for repairing abrams, we can't say that yet, even the poles can't say that, it will only unfold in the next few months on the territory of poland, so from the point of view of both tankist, as uh, user, as a crew member, yes, abrams - it is better, especially in the seb version, two seb-3, but from the point of view of the general military commander, for now, for us , it is probably leopard 2a4 and leopard 2a6, but from the point of view of logistics, from the point of view of operation, it is better if the challengers and leopards of the armed forces end up on the battlefield is already behind for several months, the situation with american tanks, another publication for the washington post writes that the ukrainian army will receive abrams no earlier

than the end of this year, including the export version, the protection elements from depleted uranium will be removed, this is a common practice when supplying such tanks abroad, and even if you are concerned that abrams is very difficult to operate and will be too much of a burden for the ukrainians, the gas turbine engine is very difficult to maintain and is not similar to the teo weapons that are in the ukrainian army, the tank also has very complex electronics strong digitized so again it requires a lot of maintenance work and in the end it uses a lot of fuel when the abrams goes half a mile 1 km takes one gallon almost 4 liters so it needs constant refueling all together makes it not a very suitable weapon for ukraine leopard is much better usa agreed give abrams to give the germans a political push so that they dare

to send leopards call soldiers warriors love i know for sure that the usa did not decide on the transfer of tanks if they knew that they could not help ukraine with routines during their use from training to maintenance of tanks, these are challenges, not problems that i know of. as a former military man who works with the pentagon, thousands of people have worked on how to overcome challenges and reduce risks. maybe someday when ukraine achieves its goal, it will knock russia out of its territory will become a member of nato and reform the army according to nato, then of course make the m1 the main tank, but now tanks are needed quickly and the fastest solution leopard

along with all the others because they will take everything hey because this is what i abrams leopard two used in combat, the german tank was used in afghanistan and syria, it was in syria that turkey lost about 10 tanks , most of them were hit by anti-tank missiles , a few were blown up by mines, the loss of tanks in ukraine cannot be avoided, given that they will most likely be used , including in complex urban battles. i have my own experience of using dances on the territory of urban development in baghdad , the population is very regional, the territories are very dense, and in any situation with cities there must be tanks 100% of all these tanks, including abrams, the evolution of their improvements is based on these lessons that were learned in urban battles, for example folluji bohdan community, western tanks were modernized. in order to strengthen their importance in

urban battles, it is known that in addition to modern tanks , germany allowed the export to ukraine of leopard 1 an older model that was produced until the mid-80s, in general, the machine is at the same level as the 64 zsu in total, they plan to transfer 88 units that are in the warehouses of the company that produces tanks rain metal - that's all one of the elements of war, like other equipment or weapons, how much they will affect combat operations depends on many factors, the tactics of their use in battles, command , the ability to keep them operational, the availability of ammunition, but the vanguard will be affected by the training of the crews, and this process also takes time. if we go, what path will we take crews who have combat experience , who have been in battles, and we will start retraining them

on western models, this will be a period of 4 6 8 weeks. if we go the way that we are now demobilizing those tankers who served 15-20-25 years ago, here we will get terms of about one and a half , maybe even two times longer. and we need to teach people , we need to teach units, we need to teach staffs. so , actually, success in battle is achieved by the one who plans correctly, the one who implements the plans e- the one who will quickly respond to changes in the situation on the battlefield and will be able to respond to new challenges, apply new ways and methods of conducting combat operations and defeat the enemy, well,

ukraine is not iraq, but still thermal imagers i would agree very much because we are going against the enemy who has tanks with quite good thermal imagers who see us and we are theirs. these are the abrams, these are the leopards, these are the new tanks of the new model, any firearm that works at a distance has a tremendous effect, i’ll even explain why ah manpower, that is, people, they are priceless, a box of abrams leopard, i don’t know gaimers yes, it costs a lot, it’s cool, but it’s not more expensive than the life of a ukrainian defender, and the more funds there

are, the fewer my brothers and sisters, my friends, my relatives who have become my relatives here will die, and even one box, even one abrams, is very, very strong a force that helps in neutralizing the enemy helps to work at a distance to work out positions in zaporizhzhia it is very difficult for you hutsmen who sit in trenches or infantry others who go to the assault this is the most difficult, that is why we are waiting very much this is a lend-lease that will even come here and it should come here. western aid to ukraine follows the principle from simple to complex. a year ago, it was anti-tank complexes and manpads; now, among other things, western tanks have appeared on the long list, and in kyiv they are already talking about aviation as experience shows on

the battlefield, all equipment is lost , regardless of the country of production of its technology, but these technologies in a complex, to which russia has made access very difficult, can help ukraine in future military operations with the liberation of territories occupied by russia, these were the realities of donbas. my name is roman pagulych. let's see each other and listen to people suffering from rheumatism. it's arthritic, it's impossible to get used to it, it doesn't allow you to move . i've tried everything. and at the pharmacy, i bought a yellow dolgit cream. it saves me from the pain of rheumatism. dolgit relieves pain. swelling and improves joint mobility dolgit is the only yellow cream for pain in the joints and back

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, we will transfer the first five stations to the 406th separate the artillery brigade named after general oleksiy almazov, join the gathering , let's get closer to victory together, glory to ukraine, i greet you, dear viewers, on the espresso tv channel, the studio program, the event , we will analyze the most important events, those related to both international security and our ukrainian security, and we will involve our guests as usual informed experts to the ordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of the republic of poland in ukraine mr. barter or any political scientist who is in washington andriy piankovskyi and now on the air of the tv channel espresso ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of poland to ukraine mr. bartosz czyhotski no longer polish greetings, mr. ambassadors, so there is information about the possible visit of president

joseph biden to poland already this month . a couple of days ago, we heard his extremely important and fundamental speech in the united states congress, where he outlined the american paradigm, america will not back down in the face of any threat and, accordingly , i would like to ask you, mr. ambassador, about the prospects of president biden's visit to poland. polish-american relations are ready , they are unprecedentedly powerful, close to the visit in february would be additionally symbolic, the anniversary of the russian criminal aggression is approaching, the presence of the president of the united states next to ukraine will provide an additional chance to talk about the details of support for ukraine, support and armaments for the support of civil infrastructure

humanitarian affairs and also about the sanctions on russia, they did not hear the peace formula from mr. president volodymyr zelenskyy in november. it seems to me that the visit would also be a good, good reason to hear from the united states how they feel about this process, the 10th package of sanctions, mr. ambassadors, we understand that there are ongoing debates, ongoing discussions regarding the severity of this next package, well, on the other hand, what about me if we already have the 10th package of sanctions, which means that it is possible that something was incomplete in the previous packages, and even more so, we see that the main fall or

destruction of the russian economy did not happen. with the second or sixth package of sanctions, we will collapse the russian economy, but first of all, we demonstrated our unity . with a demonstration we approve every almost a month every two or three months the next package of sanctions and we also put psychological pressure on the russian society, it matters that we will constantly move forward but again, every time we leave some space for the russian elites for the russian society to think draw conclusions whether they are doing the right thing or whether they are going in the right direction and also this process