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[000:00:00;00] art history in ukraine now has more than 15,000 subscribers and actually the first thing she did was write about it. and since then , a possible company has started about these works in the metro museum because the audience is actually very i accepted it and started tagging the metropolita to write to them and so on, and then i found that you can leave feedback on their website, and i also suggested that everyone should leave feedback on the website that in fact these are not russian artists, but ukrainian artists. and actually about this picture. also, i can't say how many people wrote it or not, but it seems to me that this was also such a joint
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matter, and as far as i know, the director of the odesa art museum also communicated with the metro about this work and the signature of arkhip kuindzhi oleksandr kovalchuk. and also, of course , the ukrainian institute worked with these institutions on decolonization that is, speaking of kuindzhi - it seems to me such a very complex work and the victory was achieved oksana, i understand that the employees of the subway, well, let's say yes, maybe they didn't want to react immediately because ah, you they started writing posts in december, yes, and only now they renamed it all, although it was not so long on the site, it was not such a long procedure, it is clear that there should have been some discussions, but all the same, that is why i concluded that they somehow started a little in all this
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or thought for a very long time and i saw in your posts, well, at least on facebook, well, this kind of rhetoric is quite annoying. so i immediately remembered andriy melnyk, our former ambassador to germany, he said, by the way, that you can only talk to the germans that way because they do not understand in any other way, but eh how are you how do you think we should communicate about such an issue? it should be gentle, gradually convincing people, or do we still have some right to say something more harshly if we are not heard very much? well, to be honest , i have a little more freedom, i think, than the representatives diplomatic services or representatives of other ukrainian institutions because i do not work in any institution and i would allow myself to write letters that are more demanding and
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perhaps not very correct leaving these m-m names, well, that is, leave calling ukrainian artists russian, a-a, this continues this policy of er-er russia , which stole our er-er culture. to save that is, because well, really, if they continue to call all artists russian, it means that they support russian propaganda, which says that we are one people, there is no difference, ukraine has never existed, and i actually write like that, and even more so
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i'm talking about the fact that now our culture is being destroyed during war and genocide and museums remain on the side of russia. i don't know how much it affects them or not, but it's a little different than gently explaining and writing gradually, and of course i also try to find er, some archival materials or english-speaking researchers, er, in order to show that this is not, well, i just took it, i just made it up. and that this topic has been raised for quite a long time. why is there such resistance, which we very often see among the representatives there of visual art e museums e why do they think for so long why do they need so much evidence to prove that there is an ex
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-ukrainian artist why do they have such a sympathy for russia? my personal opinion, well, first of all, all these connections with russia, with russian curators and museum workers, they were maintained not only for decades, but probably for centuries, because well, indeed, many european and american curators traveled for some internship there and did projects together with the same armitage or tretyakovka , and they have, well, first of all, there are these personal connections. well, secondly, they remember how everything was good there, how they liked everything, eh? the first is possible, the second also seems to me that uh, well, it is also difficult for them to admit that what they taught in the history of art and how russian
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art is actually not true, and what they have been doing for decades, writing texts about the mysterious russian soul in the paintings of glyla repin, is actually this no russian soul a ukrainian, and it turns out that the research that this person did, well, they don’t really correspond to reality, well, and another one is perhaps more metaphorical, well, not metaphorical, but when we talk, for example , about the imagination of colonies and empires in the western world, usually empires are something that is across the ocean. that is, it is far away, these are peoples who have a completely different cultural cardinality, another skin color, another conditional group, another religion, and here it is difficult for them to understand the fact that these are two neighboring
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countries and they do not understand how is it you can sometimes, well, to colonize a neighbor in general, this is what eva thompson, a researcher of colonial optics, writes about this, and she explains why it is difficult for them to understand and why, in their imagination, ukraine cannot be a colony of russia, because they are neighboring countries how is it, well, and it seems to me possible that the russian empire still exists for them because , well, the soviet union it was also essentially an empire just with a different name and now russia still has all these occupied territories and colonized territories with other peoples which they don't have any rights at all, they don't use their language, and russia continues this imperial
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war of aggression, and now oksana is the last one i have. it seems to me that the situation has improved significantly in all these platforms over the last year, thanks in particular to the ukrainian institute, to all the representatives who, and to you, and to people who , in general, just elementary write in social networks, stalk someone, only own in languages that are able to communicate, all these uh well, let's say this, the volume of human power somehow gives some kind of irrigation. so i judge from my point of view . what do you think uh, me too? how much money did russia invest in cultural propaganda, in all these huge exhibitions in the largest museums of the world, all these studies
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, translations of these studies into english , and so on, that is, when i talk to foreigners, i tell them well you know russian literature not because it is so wonderful incredible and unique, and because a lot of money was invested in making these translations and distributing them through publishing houses. this does not mean that ukrainian literature is worse or less interesting, it is because, unfortunately, our culture was being destroyed and for quite a long time it was just, well, it was hers if russia was somewhere on the first and largest plan in world cultural diplomacy and in museums and so on, and ukraine was somewhere behind, so it seems to me that it is very important to support precisely the development
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of cultural diplomacy and ukrainian culture and institutions that popularize ukrainian culture abroad. it was oksana semenyuk, an art historian and journalist , who forced the metropolitan museum to rename edgardagh's painting from russian dances of female dancers in ukrainian clothing, to recognize kuindzhi as a ukrainian artist. well, let's move on to roger waters now. -e i think a lot of pink floyd fans have been completely disappointed over the last many years with ah waters and what he is saying because he is absolutely clearly on the side of russia ba more he, as a famous conspiracy theorist, constantly says various nonsense in interviews, also to himself in social networks. but i think that such devoted direct fans, fans of pink floyd were not surprised because what biography of pink floyd does not take, in each of them it will be stated that this
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musician has terribly bad character that he always quarrels with everyone, he is conflicted and he has always been a conspiracy theorist, he has always sought to show that he is an expert in international relations, politics and war, although he was never like that a and e it's simple continues until now, and for some reason they take him. i hope that various reputable media interviewed him, thereby spreading his point of view. well, finally, roger waters reached the peak of all this absurdity. he spoke at the un red tape at the invitation of russia, of course , for 15 minutes via video call. he said what he says quite often, by the way, he started by accusing russia of an illegal attack on ukraine, but in the very next sentence he said that
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russia was provoked. someone is provoking either the extreme ukrainian nationalists or it is the hand of washington. here he is speaking very sympathetically about the fact that he is very sorry that people are dying in ukraine and all that. and that's all . it's so simply terrible, but that's why it's necessary to end it all and agree on it first the second is to stop the escalation, the escalation is that of course it is the supply of weapons to ukraine and also he mentioned the red buttons , the red buttons that are at the disposal of the leaders of various countries and if the situation will become more emotional. therefore, maybe someone one of these leaders will not be able to hold his hand, he will reach for this red button, he will press it, there will be a big boom , why is roger rothers asking us all this ? i strongly condemn this and also the russian invasion of ukraine was not unprovoked
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time to stop all this we need a change in the president biden president putin - president and zelensky united states nato russia european union all of you please change course just now, agree on a ceasefire in ukraine today well, it is clear that this speech was positively received, probably only by the representative of russia from the un, and the representative of ukraine, serhiy kislytsia. in the soviet union precisely because the participants were against the invasion of the soviet union into afghanistan. and how can you understand what kind of unprincipled position taras is, he is against the war, he supports the war, but waters himself calls himself a pacifist, and this is not support for the war, no, in its interpretation, it is not the same at all, and they also say that a representative from the united states somewhere there clearly said, well, first of all, i was surprised , to put it mildly, that such an incompetent person
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suddenly speaks at the un. why did it turn out like that, and then he said that the next from russia at the russian invitation, mr. bean will speak, so let's understand roger waters, everything he says is absolutely predicted, and this is not only about bad character, but also about the fact that there are such people , conspiracy theorists, rip-off is very bright the representative is people who for some reason think that they know some truth, they know more than others. they are somehow informed , and the person is also known to be legendary. that is why he thinks that somehow someone is leaking him some very secret information. he is exclusive. it seems to me that for the last 13 years, he has become active again. since he is political, he is a political military expert, he made terrible comments, for example, the relations between palestine and israel. he loved it very much
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. he was on the side of palestine and also supported venezuela there. for some time he began to engage in and also began to comment on the issue of taiwan and china. guess whose side he was on, of course , on the side of china, and it was absolutely impossible to convince him otherwise if he was simply not speaking his opinion, which can be perceived in different ways, but just some - he spoke false facts anyway, he was very angry when it was pointed out to him , here is a vivid interview on cnn with michael the dead, with a famous journalist who is his fan, by the way, pink floyd, and he also remembered death at some point, he said that now the chinese are very concerned with encircling taiwan which roger rothers immediately interrupts and says the following they are not encircling taiwan and in taiwan this part of china and this is fully accepted by the international community since 1948 and if you don't
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know this so you haven't read much about it so go and read well, at some point, voter became interested in ukraine , more precisely, in the russian-ukrainian situation, he was on the side of russia, immediately he was in favor of the annexation of crimea , saying that in general, sevastopol is a russian city, and he also began to say that the revolution of dignity is an action that was provoked by washington and the extreme nationalists in ukraine, because of course russia attacked and occupied crimea, occupied the territories because it did not need to be provoked, he gave interviews more than once, it was better to go there and where he admired the courage of russians and of russians in general of the people of the russian military, he mentioned how the russians defeated nazism in the second world war, and he also constantly talked about this, the need to negotiate and the lack of escalation,
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etc. and so on. by the way, before a full-scale with the invasion, he said that it was all false, that there would be no invasion, and that it was again to denigrate russia, but when the invasion began, he somehow began to say that the invasion was not ok. but again, it was a provocation, russia simply had no other way out rather than attacking a neighboring country in such a cruel way, according to roger waters , this is pacifism, it seems to me that , unlike many other artists who support russia , waters is doing it completely sincerely, of course not without the support of russia, let's say, but he is such a person with such views, it must be recognized that there are people in the world who must be absolutely similarly, but our joy is that waters is more and more gaining the image of a freak and almost all celebrities who they support russia. they have such an image and ah, on the other hand, other members of pink
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floyd are absolutely on our side. david gilmore and people who have a great reputation have an excellent reputation and they are for us and they are quite active in their support for that i think that it is exactly this star support and in star support, star support, i don’t know what to call it, ah, we are far ahead of russia, and here the force is absolutely on our side, well , on this cheerful note, i will surely say goodbye to you. i wish you traditions for a peaceful evening good night watch espresso let's listen to people suffering from rheumatism but it's arthritic it's impossible to get used to it it doesn't let me move i tried everything and at the pharmacy i bought a yellow cream dolgit it saves
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me from the pain of rheumatism it numbs the pain reduces swelling and improves the mobility of the joints dolgitz the only yellow cream for pain in the joints and back art in a country of war a series of documentaries, each of which will tell about one of the ukrainian artists artists who did not go abroad and continue their creative path in ukraine , the impression is that just the story entered now, yes, at some such moment, where everything just gathered in it, like a linear one, that's what happened there that we remember then, it was a kind of drag, but now it's like it's all at one moment, and we see that well, that's all is repeated against how the place and meaning of the artist and his work change. in a country at war, see in the new tv series from docnotfield studio, the association babylon 13 art in the country of war from january 16 on weekdays
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from monday to friday at 11:10 on espresso join to the community with a ukrainian view of the world, become a sponsor of the espresso youtube channel . and this means access to exclusive content , personal thanks, pinned comments , special icons and the possibility of personal communication with the espresso team, click sponsor and become part of the community with from a ukrainian point of view i welcome you to the espresso channel. today in our military program we will talk about the prospects for our armed forces to acquire western fighter jets . this topic is one of the most relevant topics during the visit of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi to leading european countries during his speech in the parliament of great britain this wednesday. volodymyr zelensky called on london
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and western allies to provide ukraine with wings of freedom, i.e. to provide our air force with modern western aircraft, and after the speech volodymyr zelenskyi, a member of the european parliament, said about fighter jets that there are certain positive solutions , but they remain behind the scenes so far, so is it really worth hoping for the receipt of western aircraft, what are the prospects and how does the situation with aircraft reflect the actual political and technical limitations of our partners when choosing the format of further military cooperation with ukraine, we will talk about it on the espresso channel with our experts and military personnel, my name is serhiy zhorits, i am the director of information
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of the defect express consulting company, which, together with the espresso channel, strives to highlight the most relevant defense and industrial trends . and now we are joined by oleksiy ezhik, experts from the national institute of strategic studies, oleksiy. - still how to talk about planes i would like to ask about the nuance that arose today with the russian missile attack when one of the skeleton missiles flew into the airspace of moldova, then romania and then it again came to our territory. and actually, can we talk about the fact that this is already such a bright beacon for the nato countries that sooner or later they will have to be involved in hostilities with the russian federation, or are they actually this challenge again what are your assessments? well, it seems to me that this is specific, and yet they will rather say that they didn’t see
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it, they didn’t figure it out, after all, a lot depends on the position of moldova. very talks about the war. i think this time too if moldova does not raise this issue if the rocket flew and did not even fall on their territory. well, i think this time, of course , romania will be more ready, but until moldova says that it must be stopped, i think hmm, they will miss it again. that is, as with poland from romania, so far in reality they are not ready to accept these challenges and stand up to counter the russian missile threat, well, the same policy to end this war, ukraine will win, but on the territory of ukraine, do not allow war to leave the territory of ukraine, that's how it is, this red line is preserved, it seems well, then, oleksiy, let's talk about airplanes, because really
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, zelensky's speech in britain, then i was optimistic enough to the parliament , even the president and andriy yarmak wrote that the issue of airplanes is all resolved. everything is fine, then he corrected his post , and foreign publications, let’s just say so , more restrainedly assessed the prospects for the supply of airplanes for ukraine, and the bloomberg publication also wrote about the fact that now this issue is on time and none of the countries is ready to take on such an obligation, the question is whether we are too active now to put the issue of aircraft on the agenda . and less relevant for western countries, the intensity of those conversations
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and contacts and promises is such that well, it is really surprising. i think that there would never have been such an intensity of requests from our side if there had not been certain expectations and the judge what of that they say they say the same thing that was said about any system up to the fact that it is not on time, but then it turns out that this system appears even earlier than it was possible to expect here , the accusers really have a strange situation, because the sense is that when the requests started, uh, they were heard other options and other other requests and already during the aircraft discussion of this discussion the parameters of the arguments were changed several times and in the end what we see now it turns out that the first thing ukraine can get is a tornado
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or a eurofighter there are several planes with missiles e storm storm neck well, i don't know. what is our custom to call it, or sc scalp, if the french abbreviation is a racket with a range of 500 km? two such main aspects are really needed and necessary here, if we are talking about a large offensive of ground forces , then aviation support on the battlefield is important, well, something better than helicopters and su-25 , something more powerful, it would be very it is useful for those leopards that we get and other things, after all, well, there is at least one class of missiles for it, with which all that does not work well
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, the ground means of air defense - this is the x22, after all, it seems that way, it is better to shoot it down from airplanes. well, then they said that i am 16 - this is the best option because it is universal, one plane can be such a front-line stormtrooper and can be an air defense plane. and now something else, but in general, this discussion about planes says that the sky can really be reliably closed and the second i will really attack ground forces can be at such a deep operational depth, that is planned, that is similar. yes, there are no other interpretations , because, after all, it is much more. this discussion has progressed for several weeks than could be expected, that is , from our side, those who talked about the planes knew something. and what actually right now
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, great britain is acting as such a conditional locomotive of this process, doesn't this story remind us that if there wasn't this hair-raising kickback that actually let's say so and such things will happen later, almost after war, that is, can we talk about the fact that, after all, the question from the point of view of britain was not worked out in such detail that there would be such a wow effect immediately after zelensky's stay in london, er, well, it is not visible here that britain, um, promoted its own plane, but actually britain does not have its own aircraft. there is a lot of participation in european european aircraft. there is indeed such an element as well as a catalyst to make such a catalyst for the provision of aircraft, but what i think i heard in these european discussions about
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of fighter jets well, here is the language of non-penetrators in general, combat planes, er, there is something so new compared to leopards, there is an impression that there is competition, even competition, and even one of the european leaders said something. will provide more and better weapons, there is such a feeling that the question is being resolved: which plane, european or american, or another will be called victory, but there is something here, whether it will be a european fighter or a tornado eurofighter like the older version, whether it will be a gripen or an f16 or a rafale, but something , it seems to me that there is something from this discussion.
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of catalysis. she just really catalyzes these processes, just like with leopards, just like with airplanes. and, by the way , about this, which country will remove such industrial cream from the ukrainian victory ? that is, you once in one zaphyr quite interestingly assessed the prospects of germany, which now with a sticky catalyst that is creating some kind of tank coalition around itself. and now the impression is that it is possible that then germany or another country will become a catalyst just around the aviation project and we are again talking about european countries and not about american countries. does this mean that the americans actually remain in the shadows of this process , are they, in principle, looking at this process so that the activation of the european defense industry as a whole will take place, and the americans are quite satisfied with this? i think at this stage they that's fine while the war is going on, after all , there is an internal american debate about
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