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[000:00:00;00] because this is just an absolutely logical conclusion of this, you know, this contradiction of this inconsistency, according to which style, according to the new style, when the poiryan style, the novoyavyav style, the gregorian style, i think that humanity should have come to an agreement a long time ago in the punishments of the measurement of time and chronology. well, it is clear that the calendar does not have to take into account the part of humanity that actually lives in the christian tradition, that's why i , for example, react very positively to it. well, yes , the first years may be phantom pains that we have left from the zhulian calendar that the cover is needed on the 14th and not the first. what is it? mykolay is coming on the 19th and not earlier
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for two weeks, but i think that it is before these changes , so there is no tragedy. as they say, i don’t see it, you see. now there is a moment that we seem to be losing our identity, and i don't think that those millions of ukrainians who live abroad have lost it, but you just know yourself, they logically wrote who and the influence of historical events, uh, who live in the west, if we left the docks, we can live together with russia already after such a terrible year tragedies of the war, this is an additional argument in favor of the fact that grigoryansky should have been passed a long time ago, but in its main dates it coincides, if we allow literally what i wanted to say, confirmation of your words
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that very often people say that we will lose our identity because we will not 6 christmas eve, for example. and on the 24th, these are people who really had no identity . sixth, these are people who don't really carol. these are people who don't honor those christmas traditions that mean nothing to them. it's just another one reason or to eat or drink eh or the main holiday for them in general new year with new year everything is fine he will not go anywhere he will stay from the 31st to the first this is how to calm down and people who just to whom just ukrainian christmas with a ukrainian carol there is such a huge column, i don't know, on which they hang, including the ukrainian identity, it seems to me that it is not a problem for them, where these people, moreover, have already noted for 24-25 days that well, i can say for myself that you are already there and doing something 24-25
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but you still understand that the church sets the tone all the same, the first christmas carol is sung in the church in the church on the sixth day at vechirnya and so on here rivno well, that is, it still didn’t matter. now it just synchronizes with what was already being introduced little by little. you are right and i think that it is not necessary to worry about this, you know, to go the way of liberation from those stereotypes that do not allow us to breathe in the western air, and all the time we are drawn to it, you know, it is the past, where there was no actual religion, and there was this imperial church that imposed on us the way we we have to live some celebrate the holidays as we should celebrate them, that's why i call on everyone to remember that we are free people and
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that there will be no coercion in this decision. celebrate as a family in the old way, but follow the old way and about those laws and trends that today are dictated by time and our time is specific , we have a time of war and a lot has changed even in the villages and if you are lagging behind this time well so to you, my son and the junkyards. as the stories say, take flight and continue on those margins, therefore, ukrainians, do not be afraid, nothing will change in this life, christ was born, so they are born, but the date will change , that is, the actual astronomical date of the celebration of this great holiday e- madam lyudmylo, the only thing is that i also heard that, well, this is not an argument , but actually it is more like a wish of those
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ukrainians who are ready for ukraine to switch to a new calendar and celebrate christmas together with the whole civilized world about the fact that we have such a slowdown is due to the fact that, again, ukraine is a post-soviet country and the new year was the main holiday for a long time, so the communist party imposed itself , emasculating everything that was in the traditions of ukraine, regardless of whether it is ukraine or the east is this the west of ukraine or the north or the south of ukraine? and actually this slowdown is the preparation for the holidays because people , one way or another, the majority of people in ukraine , actually, first prepared for january 1.
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celebrate christmas eve on january 6, then christmas on the seventh. but this was already a residual principle, and this principle, as happens in western countries, that on the eve of christmas , all life slows down a little, people begin to prepare for the holidays little by little, buy some gifts, cook christmas eve , decorate the christmas tree again after all, decorating the tree for christmas, not for the new year, how long will it take for us here to switch to such western rails in preparation for the holidays, it will take 20 years, it depends on the people. i call for a conscious attitude to life. with a sober head and fresh thoughts, the date must be shown and a certain willful effort must be made. in order to clarify for myself why i am not switching to the new calendar, but
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let's remember that we now have 2023 in the year of christ, that is, even in this family chronicle mentions the actual religious reason to go from one year to another year something like history why are you so indifferent and perceive everything about the act without deep insight into the essence of what is happening, well do not forget that in soviet times, christmas was not a public holiday. and now ukraine is living in new conditions, when december 25 and january 7 are also considered holidays. i think that gradually it will be like the new year in the west. well, new year, but in principle, all traditions are good developed in ukrainian families and caroling and so on, they were all timed specifically
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to the religious holiday before the birth of jesus christ . and no , to what new year, which was imposed on us once again. knowledge of its history, consciously thinking about what ukraine should be for our children, because we are already everything, but for us children , what should it become ? the civilized world and not the whole of eurasianism that is being thrust upon us now, uh, russia with its crazy putin, so make a choice dear ukrainians, so this applies to the reform so far, only as they say, it’s immovable holidays, movable holidays
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remain in uh tradition well, what was it earlier, in particular, easter will be calculated according to the formula that is known and used by all christians this year. easter, you know, is a little early, it is in april, so we are preparing for those changes that will show that we are keeping up with the times, keeping up with europe in feet sterilized world thank you ms. lyudmyla lyudmila filippovich philosopher , religious scholar and doctor of philosophical sciences came with us and talked a little about how we live now, at least the greek catholics will live according to the new calendar well, the orthodox the church of ukraine has so far left this issue to the decision of individual communities, but as lyudmila tells me, in her opinion, very soon , they will also join the whole church to celebrate now all
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holidays together with the civilized world but not with russia well, by the way, it is very valuable to ukrainize the new year a little because we had our old new year with our traditions with a lightning bolt with a body with this and that i sow and that's all now the old new year coincides, that is, it becomes simple it's the new year and that means that it's as if the tradition is returning this one is already being updated in the new year and i think it will be a competition. i hope very much for that soviet tradition, which on the contrary is already dying out. and damn, olivier will be left . well, no one will look at the irony of fate anymore, or with a light steam, more muscovites they want to replace the dnipro-birch with the help of technology, i don't know margarita simonyan, because you see, berizka came out in defense of lia khidzhakova, who
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defends ukraine and who have already taken all the roles in the contemporary theater in which she gave most of her life let's go back to ukraine, and that's all. let's accept a person. well, it's not some kind of nizora, but wait for me, they accepted a non-standard one. well, all the more, okay, let's move on, let's move on , now let's talk a little about our mental health during the war, says the world health organization i think that every fourth person in ukraine is at risk of a mental disorder due to the war, this is as of now, when the full-scale parties last a year. and how long it will last in our country is unknown, and this statistic can also change. nataliya podolyak , a psychologist, joins us. to see on our airwaves uh actually every fourth uh how disturbing it is and can we manage with the number of specialists
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we have to preserve the mental health of our people well uh hear me everything is fine yes everything is fine we let's stand and see well, i would probably be a little confused with these statistics, because given the experience of my work, constantly communicating with colleagues, that one in four ukrainians will have a mental disorder, er, i do not agree with this, a disorder is a mental illness, that we will have psychological problems and have they really are psychological problems can be corrected, it is possible to help a person to stabilize his skating, but for it to directly turn into a disease, such statistics are terrible
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, there is no way to discuss what questions you are asked most now. gender, you know, most of the time they address problems about teenagers, because teenagers are going through an age crisis, they are very fragile, sensitive, prone to changes in forms , changes in some values, and as it turned out that they are the most difficult to bear the changes that the war brought us and well, about 80 % are teenagers and anxious people who already had a too high level of anxiety in life and the war because, well, it increased this level and people can't cope and they turn to how to stabilize how to live, because one of the greatest fears of people in general is the fear of uncertainty, and we now live in such total uncertainty, we do not know what will happen, how it will turn out. and this is the fear
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that people turn to and what to do when you live in uncertainty because you don't know ani first when will it all end and ani how will it all end and even if it does end will you live to see it end yes, you know such a very banal phrase that psychologists say and have always said to live here and now and there literally yesterday i opened a can of mushrooms that i they gave me a gift from the carpathians, and there were also some white buttermilk. well, always leave it here for the holidays, i think so, and in the here and now, i open this jar of bi-bil and start eating it, and there are such moments in the here and now when we ourselves we allow permission to live and really we don't know if i will eat these mushrooms tomorrow or if i will have them tomorrow so why can't i use them today and these eyes anchor yourself ground today the sun is shining
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today we have a blue sky and i get pleasure from it today i breathe today i live and the boys protect and give us a chance to live and now don’t take this chance to live today live allow yourself to live allow yourself to wear your day allow women to paint their lips and this is not something that contradicts and someday guys can communicate order nataliya and why are we fighting there? well, why should we be closed and fall into depression? and who will support us? and who will help us ? and they are talking about the boys, our defenders, who unfortunately return from the front, well, on the one hand, unfortunately, and on the other hand, i think fortunately, because they return
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alive, but they return without their limbs, and this means that they need to rebuild somehow i lived my life the man who was my audience i never saw him in person we finally met when i went to the rehabilitation center he lost his leg in the war and i left him in the gym what can you say about the other men who are in the room with him he says i'm there the only one from his room who does not abuse alcohol, who has found his strength because at the beginning it was also difficult for him to find his strength despite the fact that he has no legs to continue playing sports well, to think about the fact that when he gets out of there that he will not receive a protest and will somehow start his life already with the fact that he will have a prosthesis because he says i have a garden of 40 saplings in the kyiv region i want to return there i have a wife i have a daughter i have grandchildren i want to live on what to do with them
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who do not find the strength in themselves as this viewer could, and some simply slide down that hole and alcohol probably kills them even more. well , alcohol is a way to avoid these terrible memories, which are imprinted and the boys cannot cope with them because they are traumatic. memories they are obsessive uh they are uh emerge from the psyche against their will, it is not clear at what moment , and they seem to relive these traumatic events in which they were, and to escape from it , they forget to silence it, they drink alcohol, but we know that alcohol does not cause depression because only they are not teresa, we have become, then this is a symptom , she will appear again, yes, and this is an installation of hope, like that guy. and who says i have a garden , this is an installation of hope for the future, this is something that we can then cling to, for example, i look at
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very beautiful dynamics those boys who have healthy relationships in the family and the family is just such a healing when there is a wife who loves and supports when there are children when there is a good relationship with children when parents are waiting and happy so they don't sob and hide for life and when they say yes we need you and you know to try the ceiling there you promised me to make repairs there, i don't know anything yes, i will help you, and in fact, these are the things that ground and give action to live, that is, when there are friends, when there are supportive friends, and social support is mega-mega important, when there is recognition of the state yes we have been fighting for this since the 14th year, and when there is recognition by the state at all levels in various ways in various formats, it also inspires and supports volunteering, and when, how do you lesya , eh, visit the boys, you just
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talk to them, that is, don't cry next to them with them i say, god, what kind of people are you, what a horror the war has already done to you, but to talk, to inspire, to read, to ask for advice, if you listened , you have such trees, what kind of grafting should be done , which pear is better, yes, that is, to bring them back to life in this way and lots and lots of support because they themselves fail they don't cope and also seek help from psychotherapists, in fact, er , even post-traumatic syndrome is treated , people recover from it and do not need to be formed because mental health and physical health are very interconnected and many miracles like we say when a person is injured and crippled, he has some disabilities, but he longs for life and lives a high-quality and classy life. well, where did we have a video on which a girl from
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mariupol went out with her mother and she was very- very every day, in great detail, he corrects himself somewhere, and tells about how he and his mother were walking and then there, uh, here they walked over the bodies, and there were a lot of people killed, and then my mother slipped and fell into some pit, i suspect from the explosions, and there there were many people. she begins to list who was there. what was there. a man, a woman, a man, it seems, was still alive. he grabbed my mother's leg . the mother could not get out and had to take the child. pit she is she tells everything in a completely ordinary, calm tone, even in such a way as if she is retelling some kind of funny story, enough, i would ask myself during this question whether it is not some kind of displacement or a child's psyche is so elastic you are so
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ten years old, there is nothing she can do it all in principle survive. but will it remain a kind of scar? what will happen to those children who did not watch all of this, eh, it sounds terrible to hear, terrible, and our adult psyche, listening to such stories , eh, well, eh, it is very difficult to digest it but you are right, mr. andrii, that uh, children are because they have such a flexible uh psyche, it is only being formed, and in fact, when the children tell there after six months, they share and want to share these stories, the more detailed the better, because a detailed story is just that emotional tension is removed and if a child wants to tell this story 150 times
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, that's great because each time the brain digests it, it transforms this story from a traumatic story to a normal story. of course, it will remain and as i say, scars remain. well, when we break an arm or a leg, we are there where we open the weather, how is it a little like that, something there, well, exactly. there was a fracture somewhere in us, it gives us the process of life and it will be a sad memory it will be a difficult memory, but, for sure, this traumatic experience, for some reason, i think that it will heal our next generation when we share it, so we hope for that, in the end , we have an example of a generation that survived the first or second world war, which, well, especially the second the world war, which became so great, in fact, the builders of a very successful world, the liberal world, and all this horror
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did not take a moment to be good people and make a good future for their children. in the end, mrs. nataliya wanted to ask you what should we do with such a feeling as a sense of guilt in poland, such a magazine is a tall paragraph and despite such a rather feminine name , but it's not about that, not about makeup, how to do it correctly, or how to do it correctly, heels, high heels , yes, if you wear high heels, if translate into ukrainian a and actually this is a magazine for women about some feminist movements there, about self-respect, dignity , etc. and so they interviewed oksana zabuzhko , moreover, they put her, er, ukrainian writer on the main page of their magazine, and she is in this interview he says such a phrase that resonates a lot and i often hear how people there say that we are here in kharkiv, but
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it was worse in mariupol, or people somewhere in kyiv say that we are worse here in kyiv than in kharkiv, or when people are asked e- and even sunset country, they say that here we are, but the people in kyiv have it worse. someone constantly says that it is worse and that some of their pain, their experiences, and she also talks about it, about the fact that she lives with feelings, not because she did not lose a husband, did not lose a child in this war, and she understands that young people are dying there now at the front, that is, those who could have done something for this country, to make it better, but now they just have to hold this country and this feeling of guilt haunts many ukrainians, what to do with him why why is this so from belittling, she says, i feel feelings, that's why i can do what i can do, somehow repay the debt for that. everything is fine with me , everything is fine with you, everything
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is fine with my family. what do you feel like to be well, so far we have not found such criteria as criteria by which we can measure whether the mountain is deeper or who experiences it more strongly, it does not depend on the events, it does not depend on whether there is a lost cat or a lost home, of course there by the volume of yes, but according to our experiences internal there are no such criteria yes and this devaluation is when people themselves devalue their feelings their grief eh it only corrodes inside and does not give us any stabilization for the whole feeling of guilt and in principle when we talk about the stages of grief yes there are different classifications eh one of the first uh, at the voting stage, one of the first experiences is when people start blaming themselves for the fact that i didn't stand there enough
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, i said, i didn't do enough there, for example , for this person, and it's now so massive , yes, that is, we have such a stage where we blame ourselves so that we didn't do enough what to do then we can't control now the war process so ordinary civilians we can't globally influence it eh then eh psychologists recommend taking some area where can we or the process or action eh where we can control something, yes, well, for example, also weaving nets, for sure every craftswoman or master who does it can control his net, how much he is there, the quality of our weaving, the amount of plate yes, it is great because it reduces the feeling of control in us this is an alarming state of feelings of guilt, shame, what else can i do if i
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don't drink a cup of coffee there, i want to pay 50 hryvnias there, and every day, yes, there is a point-to-point address there , ok, that's good. there, if we i know a man at the front, eh, i'll say come on, when he comes, i don't know, he'll come to a beautiful room. we'll paint it there in his favorite color, that is, to do something is practically what i can afford and what eh in within the limits of my capabilities, and such small steps seem insignificant but when they are made by millions of people, regardless of where they live now in ukraine or if they were forced to leave for another country, that's all , well, it's an emergency to victory, actually yes , and everyone does what they can, and it brings such a little inner peace that
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after all, i am not excluded, i am not outside the situation, i am included in such and such in such and such moments before we ask the next question, i would like you to show us this cover which actually, this magazine is dedicated to the anniversary of the full-scale invasion and the ukrainian writer oksana zabuzhko as the collective image of ukrainian women and, in principle, ukrainians on this cover of this quite popular and well-known magazine in poland . well, there is also an interview in particular where she talks about how ukraine lives in our country. here , the viewer is asked what if she reacts very badly to russian language when you hear it on the streets of ukraine, eh, can this be considered a disorder of ms. natalya, how to be here, and why do people, in fact, some people have this feeling that well, when the bombs are already falling, then definitely don't speak russian, because they like in
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associate this language with the language of the enemy and others they say there is no connection uh and here at the front the guys are fighting and speaking russian ugh well, it is generally such a very tolerant question of speech yes uh people who react so strongly and aggression is not a disorder no everything is fine with you are fine, but it could be like a trigger, yes, a trigger that plunges us into a traumatic event, you are our trigger, why don’t they move, you know, since the 14th year, i have traveled to the entrance zone for my work, oh my god , people speak russian in the east too were then and when they aggressively introduced the ukrainian language eh we encountered only aggression, but when i was just talking
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to them in ukrainian and we were talking about something and about children because they work with children, on the third day they would switch to unconsciously ukrainian and they were speaking in tracing paper, you know and here is such a method it would work with us, well, that’s the first thing. yes, what i noticed. and secondly, everyone has their own level of readiness. there are people who are very patriotic and when you speak to them in ukrainian. well, i have always spoken in ukrainian and they speak. i am afraid to do and say something wrong. people have internal fears, but i want to speak it so beautifully that it comes out directly literary. and whether internal fears do not allow people to move so quickly and instantly , that is, everyone has their own level of psychological readiness and there. well, as a specialist, i understand , but in people who are not immersed in it in these processes , it can cause aggression, give people time , someone is ready tomorrow, someone has already moved on, someone is fighting their fears to do it,
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