[000:00:00;00] how did they have such an impression somewhere near the kremlin, and here we see such a not often seen lawyer of the russian opposition public and political figure . now we will have a small film about post -conflict situations about mental disorders. in ukraine, in the whole world, wherever there is a war, there are bound to be people who need help, and this is exactly what we will have a rather long story about, a six-minute story, and i advise everyone to watch it, and then we will come back and talk about the economy, sports and let's answer the question. so, post-traumatic syndromes of voids, traumatic stress disorder, pt-heart, a mental and

behavioral disorder that can develop after a traumatic event, that is, everything can be obtained by luna's ways . yes, it is not necessary to be a participant in this event , this is the first option. this was such a participant in this event, yes, the second option - is to witness this event as a result of a strong shock , a person can experience an acute stress reaction , it can be there increased sweating, dry mouth, even there the temperature can increase, these are the autonomic symptoms that i manifest in such a way. hm, the highest expression of acute stress is the reaction of freezing . yes, when a person freezes from terror, it can be a physical withdrawal, it can be an internal freezing, if you do nothing about it and just let the person rest, calm down for 182 hours with an extrasenrex it passes , the intensity of the body's system decreases

, they adjust and recover. however , the body's protective mechanisms cannot always cope with trauma, according to america according to studies, approximately one in five people can develop ptsd as a result of an acute stress reaction, there are certain inclusive symptoms , these are our dreams, which can be in the form of nightmares, these can be fundamental disorders . when a person cannot fall asleep or wakes up , is it night sweats yes, when a person wakes up all wet because of what is happening to him , it can even be flashbacks . understand what a flashback is, a flashback is the feeling when you return to that situation when you seem to be thrown out and you are living this situation again today in ukraine . everyone has different conditions, so a diagnosis

of ptsd can only be made by a doctor for a full diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder. still , it is better to turn to specialists yes, there are certain tools that can be used to measure it, look at these indicators and already understand whether there is ptsd, because now i will tell you that what i see among people are more anxiety disorders and disorders adaptations and depressive disorders, well, depressive disorders are when people are faced with such a feeling of powerlessness. yes, my life has changed . the development of post-traumatic syndrome can be prevented with this goal. in ukraine , a reconstruction project is being implemented during the war for those women and children who lost their loved ones due to the war and were in the occupation. or surrounded cities and faced severe stress, this is our project, this is the first step in the psychological rehabilitation of women and children

, it is impossible to go all the way to rehabilitation in three weeks, because some cases are very serious therefore, we set ourselves a more modest goal, this is the psychological stabilization of their psycho-emotional state, the second is psychological support for them, and the third is self-help training for 1 women and children with whom psychologists worked in individual and group therapy, there is body therapy, which is very important, such body language they learn from this, there is art therapy, art masters and it is simply impossible to exaggerate the importance of this, because when the child works together, their mother and they do something with their hands and the result is already in one day well, in two

days at most everything is a very good therapeutic effect three thousand families of those especially affected by the war. and this is about seven thousand women and children . also in the plans is the weight to finish the work with the families of military personnel. from me, it will end in victory. there will be demobilization. we will then work with the families. the man who returned from the front first and his family, what year is there? and a half were separated , it is the military personnel who are most vulnerable to the development of the ptsr because they are in the combat zone . they are in harsh conditions for survival . in such circumstances, people are often ignored and the psychological state is therefore precisely close people should pay attention to changes in behavior, few people now first realize that they need help, as if everything is okay in a different way, there are certain people who are ashamed of it because, well, how can i ask for help when other people

are worse off, very often if a person there received postrigmatic stress disorder there are such coercive symptoms, that is, concomitant symptoms - these are such as the use of psychoactive substances well, in our country it is usually either alcohol or narcotic substances and this is a path to nowhere, yes, this is a path to addiction, this is a path worth social some kind of behavior and into social isolation and into other problems that will be dragged along like this layer of snow, so to prevent the development of stress disorders, it is important to help the body stabilize its psycho-emotional state so that the psyche is in a resource and has a reserve for work, the first thing to do is and the most important thing is to sleep normally. yes, try to get enough sleep. because during sleep, all the recovery processes

in the body take place, and the second point is nutrition . watch your diet because nutrients we get through food they fill our body give us energy and resources for our physical normal existence so get busy with things that help reduce stress feel anxiety worry and fear in war conditions is normal this is a natural reaction of your psyche and if you or your relatives have symptoms ptsr , the professional help of doctors is necessary tetyana litvinova oscar janson oleksandr burlevych especially for express we will listen to people suffering from rheumatism and arthritis cannot get used to it

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, glory to ukraine, and they call me mykola veresen here as novy, today you see about politics about politics, now about the economy and at the end about sports, that's about the layout of our program today. and who else would we invite to talk about the economy, about finances , but serhiy fursu, the investment banker , who will appear just now, and this is exactly the person who will tell us everything honestly and professionally i wish you good health, mr. serhiy, you look like you have completely new eyes , it’s an ignorant question. well, the ukrainian economy, ukrainian finances, ukrainian everyday life has already reached its peak

from the bottom, yes, what’s going on? we will still grope for this bottom well, look, in fact, we groped and pushed back from it back in april last year it was march april last year the beginning of may is the same bottom in our economy and in our social life since that time we have been recovering uh, one thing is certain time were recovering quite briskly until october. when the attacks on our energy infrastructure began , this is a slow economic recovery and social recovery itself. you and then such a figure was heard from three to five billion a month, it would be good for us to have somewhere from somewhere that just to maintain balances, all that pay people salaries may be small, but to all who

need it to hold the front to keep some kind of infrastructure and so on and the like. now we have such opportunities to receive from three to five billion dollars every month. well , last year it was 4 billion . we will also receive this money, a larger amount is already guaranteed, it is ensured by the decisions adopted by the european union, where the inclusion of aid to ukraine in the budget is unity at the expense of our western partners, uh, actually because of this , for example, let the hryvnia stay stable and the past six months and in the near future there are no prerequisites for the central bank's reserves to grow and even higher than they were on february 24, this is all due to the support that the western world provides us

, mr. sergey, but everything else has frozen. well, as i understand it, how about me asked i would also say if i were the prime minister i said everything we are not doing anything well because why should i restore this road or this house if tomorrow it will fly down this road and this house and i will have to ask again someone has money to start rebuilding again, that is, the country simply froze. if the economy can grow somewhere, it grows, but bearing in mind that it can always stop this growth. preparations are underway for these investments, both in terms of the idea of ​​western large-scale aid and of our western business friends, so to speak . because the world looked at ukraine in a different way .

big companies travel, come to ukraine, take a look, try to understand where it is possible to invest here after the end of the war. and that is, there is no investment now, but the current situation , well, the business is working. yes, and not because he is, well, and because he is patriotic, of course, but because it is necessary to survive to eat for something and so on, or the economy works , it just works at a slightly lower level , yes, if you can say so . look what it will be, this is such an idiotic question. years after the end of the war, it will already be like a shob, how can you imagine it, it will already be 10 smooth roads, autobahns, i'm not saying all , i'm saying 10, it will be a modern plant in mariupol , which steel foundry is already ultra-modern, some kind of

japanese, south korean, 22nd century , it will be wonderful television, where will it work, uh, mykola veresen, and so on and the like, how will it look, otaka , that's the problem, at least today, everything looks very, very not very good, now they will call you back, they will restore mr. serhiy fursu an investment banker, an expert, a wonderful economic philosopher, if i would call him sometimes, because he really sometimes talks so elegantly about what is happening that it becomes clear to everyone, on the one hand, on the other hand, it is obvious that he uses not only economic and financial books. so, mr. sergey, what will he look like ukraine, well, the only thing

i can say is that my internet crashed, it will be television, there will be no mykola veresen in 10 years. great news about the other, i have no idea, but in 10 years, we will most likely be either in the eu or on self-defense in the eu , this will determine our investment attractiveness , and we will move somewhere in the direction of romania, bulgaria, poland. factories, because few people will be interested in investing in new metallurgical plants, but the infrastructure will definitely be actively developed , that’s true. and where then? well, where should i look, where should i invest and i will work in the new ukraine, i will have a big salary i need to invest somewhere, where agriculture is yesterday's day - it can

go with metal foundries, well, they will be needed or not, we don't know what they are used to make cars, cars, maybe from plastic. that is, where will humanity be in the second half xx- 21st century where will humanity look first of all and it is really impossible to predict it, you can invest in the assets that are now in ukraine, which will definitely increase in price, they understood what to invest after the end of the war, for example , the same countries that have integrated into the eu bulgaria, romania says that the value of agricultural land is increasing very significantly, most likely from a point that will be here. we choose a point on the day the war ends, then real estate prices will increase, and those assets that are in ukraine will increase simply because of european integration, due to the pooling of significant funds in ukraine regarding businesses well, this is entrepreneurship, yes, er, entrepreneurs . they are people, they have an idea, they

implement this idea, and what i will say here is impossible, you need to have this idea, have an understanding. how to implement this idea into life, yes, agriculture told will develop. i hope the password will develop. i think that in today's world, the farther you go, the more you feel and the less you work. the sphere of services is what is now on the screen, this is very important. moreover, now a lot of people who left ukraine see that the field of services in ukraine is much more developed than in many countries of the european union, and against the background of tourism, we are the potential development of the country, well, this can be a very interesting story, but look at the role of western specialists, to what extent is it in kyiv or lviv whether odesa or kharkiv is similar, let's say to prague in the 90s, there were a million foreigners there, americans, canadians, englishmen, germans who

just came, helped, invested money, it was like that, it was a very, very active life . how far can the west manage all this? well, i would hope that they would be able to manage i'm not sure that they will be able to because there are other people here who want to play poker and who don't really like western friends. and in terms of whether it will be similar, i think that plus-minus will be similar in fact because , again, investment interest much more than he was before the war in ukraine. if he goes, he starts financing anya according to the marshal's conditional plan, according to this, he will start financing , they will step up to such a step that jeeps, mod sax, are already appearing. and if such people come, then everyone else around them begins to think that they know something and also run here, so theoretically, if we don't lose our closets, uh, for quick european integration after the end of the war, if we don't do something stupid, or if we don't tell europe

that it is visible to us. so this one may well be similar to prague at that time or warsaw, for example, it is 1.90, because it is a new land, you know , everything is not interesting there anymore. in fact, what kind of pressure will we have after the war, they are waiting and the main thing is that it will not be lost, you looked so ironically at the relevant questions what do you hope that western specialists will have a chance although there are people here who would like to do this and this and i understand about corruption and i thank you, i can imagine when i see the number the prime minister or the president pronounces 500 billion 700 billion trillion dollars i'm sitting thinking that somewhere in kyiv, odesa, lviv there are people who are sitting in the carpathians saying, oh, you 've lost your money. this is finally happiness, not some

petty tens of millions to steal already it's a shame tens of millions tens of billions already have to be stolen, how much chance will those fine ukrainian managers who stole all 30 years after independence have? well, i think they will have a chance. whether they realize it or not depends on ukrainian society of course, from western pressure, but the west will put pressure one way or another , and we understand that it will, but how ukrainian society will react to it after the end of the war , this question remains to be seen, how it will deal with the same corruption or whether we will plan the opinion that the west is to blame, so let it give money and turn away, but here we are, we will already distribute this question is open. i think that one way or another the level of corruption in our country continues to decrease , because the same example last week when we laughed at the tax lady

who ached to earn a million dollars. well, honestly, if they were somehow yanukovych’s cronies said that working in a top position in the tax department, you can earn a million in a year, this person was laughing, or they earned a million there already a week ago, the level of corruption in our country is decreasing, but how is it? the rate of decline will be and how effectively this money will converge here is already a question for ukrainian society to what extent it will actively defend the new most corrupt ukraine against the background of many psychological problems that we will have after the war see the last question is question group a there are mechanisms? you can imagine some ideal mechanism. i understand that it is impossible to bring corruption to zero. there will still be some percentage 5-10-15 three. well , how many, but there is some mechanism when together the state plus western countries plus ukrainian society and some non-governmental organizations organizations can jointly prove that this will be some kind

of acceptable acceptable option . well, it is acceptable, it is generally unacceptable, but such that will allow you to feel the development of society , the development of the economy and the development of the wages of every ukrainian. well, first of all, you are will yes western funding will be tied to the reform program and each reform will reduce the opportunity for corrupt officials therefore it will be a plus money will most likely not be issued in the ukrainian language and no one will be turned away one way or another control over their use will be well and the third part - this is the anti-corruption infrastructure that was built after the maidan, which is already starting to work more or less effectively now, er, it is also an element of this control, and the west is actively controlling it now so that nothing breaks down there , let's say so, that is, there are chances, it's great

great news. listen, well, there is no drama in our conversation, serhii. not to say that there is something bad here, but here the money has gone to the bottom. the event allows us to fight corruption. tell us about one of your shortcomings. for one and a half minutes , the biggest problem for us will be depopulation. in fact, it’s just a physical lack of workers, it was there and before the start of the war it was already very difficult to make people, but now there is a grace that took place during the war, it will be a long -lasting problem, in fact, which should be solved and the only way to solve it in fact, it is migration, but here. is ukrainian society ready for mass migration, not from ukraine, but to ukraine from other countries ? this is a very open question, but this migration will be the basis from which ukrainian growth will be built economically, because without working hands, without

the population, i simply cannot become anything. it is a pity. that i really only have a minute and a half left and i simply won't have time to ask the question. and is it possible to achieve such an option when one person will work at two jobs earning twice as much, that is , it used to be that people were paid very little there is not enough and no one knew what to do with it and now if there will be a truly free labor market i worked here i worked there i worked here i earned money there and somehow they feel better works so i worked here i worked there it will not be very effective work and employers will not be very happy if the workers work the same way plus it is not only about work i about consumption because it is about the domestic market of ukraine it's about the opportunity to buy and provide work in the same small and medium-sized business

. someone has to sell this coffee to someone. someone has to drink it. if you work two jobs, you still drink the same amount of coffee. well, i can drink uh, much better quality coffee. more expensive. i don't know, because i always had the impression that it's good that you refute me that if you really give economic freedom , people will find working hands and there will be working hours, people will already work as under capitalism, but don't drink and smoke... in the morning till night there is tea or coffee and they will already do something to produce some additional value. i always knew that it was effective because i remember the beginning of hungary, poland, it was exactly like that when the transformations began in the late 80s, at the beginning, people just wanted, they were looking for work

constantly let them work because they have seen the taste of money well, dear, money on the other hand, well, you can’t work at two factories at the same time, for example, mmm, that’s a separate story , that we simply have a big bloated state apparatus, there are state companies, many people and it is possible that there will be a certain migration of people from the state company, conditionally ukrzaliznytsia . it showed itself admirably during the war. i am showing myself now. create it's true, it will be like that, but everything will be the same. this lack of people, depopulation, this will be our biggest, biggest challenge. well, usually at the end, i speak on an optimistic note, but here on a literary note. but i myself provoked it

it would have turned out on an optimistic note, we finished talking to sergey fresa as an investment banker. well, as it is, get ready , but prepared and ready for tests is much better than not prepared. so everything will be fine, except for depopulation. i wouldn't say that there is room for improvement, this is a small thing, but about sports igor zhdanov project manager information defense fund open policy minister of youth and sports of ukraine from the 14th to the 19th years i hope mr. igor i saw yes good health mr. igor ah mykola long time no see nice to see you mr. minister a very simple and difficult question, in fact, this story is about what the russians say. i was shocked today in the morning when i was looking at the internet. when irina radnina

was called in the soviet union . it's so simple, corruption in the palm of your hand, what's there, what's ukrainians, what's poles there , you can see it from the sky. he'll call, i'll tell you , i think it's like that. about sports, it seems that no one has the right to demand that we do not go , it does not lead to anything. bach himself, the head of the international committee, says that it was never good for someone to ignore the olympic games, and i myself was a child. i remember how it was in moscow and los angeles is legally binding. there is a document that forbids ukrainians to say that we will not participate and another 30 countries will not participate in the olympics if

a russian delegation comes to this olympics. what is written legally? well, first of all, this is the whole story. it started not today and not even yesterday, february 24, 2022. it started in 14th year , when russia started aggression. true, not yet a large-scale aggression, but aggression against ukraine later. if i am not mistaken, in 18th year , a law was passed. -e recognized russia as an aggressor to the states, and i then, in compliance with the law, signed an order prohibiting ukrainian athletes from participating in competitions on the territory of russia, which were held officially and unofficially, then there was also a big scandal and the bank told me

in an official letter that they had the right to do this to do that is, the state has no right to ban an athlete. well, i said ok, and then i changed this order and simply forbade financing the trips of our athletes to russia, let's say 99% of ukrainian athletes go to international competitions at the expense of the state . that's why, let's say, stopped any efforts e- e and e-e go there to hold e-e competitions there take part hug with e-e russian athletes while they are also servicemen of the russian armed forces