[000:00:00;00] you trust yourself well, then that means me well, okay, you have the right, you know, we have freedom, and on this, they tell me that i have 30 seconds , they lie to me, as always, they always lie to me , because it was actually 40 when i told them that it was 30, that is, 10 seconds before me it's just a terrible story, but i still have to finish it. for example, i definitely have to finish it right now. why, because ani eva melnyk has to start right now. and i can't take her time away from her , and that's why i'm leaving her, her time, and my time is up . all the best ladies and gentlemen

we will definitely see you in kharkiv oblast. and also about the new rules for entering bakhmut for journalists. details in a moment. come with us to eat in bakhmut only with a special one-time pass. from february 13 , the regional government will introduce such restrictions for media representatives, all for the sake of safety, permission to cover the situation . must be obtained from the donetsk regional military administration without it they will not be allowed into the city almost completely destroyed bakhmut still remains one of the hottest spots in the east of ukraine was and does not have artillerymen of the 128th separate

of the mountain assault brigade of the armed forces of ukraine destroyed a column of military equipment while this was reported by the mayor of melitopol , ivan fedorov, according to his words, in the zaporizhzhia direction, our military, thanks to the correction of the stork drone, destroyed a significant number of russian equipment and soldiers, a good event happened on the melitopol vasylka road, a tragedy in the kherson region, two men were driving a car and a mine blew up, it happened this morning near the village of novoraysk, boryslav district, both died on the spot, the car was moving on a field road, the regional military administration once again urges people to be careful and drive only on proven roads in the region, the level of mine danger remains high, there will be light at the moment , there is no power shortage in the power system, everything is thanks to the round-the-clock work of specialists and the commissioning of two npp units, ukrenergo did not

set consumption limits but in the case of an increase , emergency shutdowns may be applied , in particular, this applies to odesa, kyiv oblast , zhytomyr oblast, khmelnytsky oblast and the capital with the beginning of the working week, restrictions may return ukrposhta issued more than 97,000 led lamps in lviv thousands of ukrainians managed to use the energy efficiency tool how the program of exchanging old lamps for energy-saving ones works will be told by our correspondents yulia from lviv came to the branch of ukrposhta to take advantage of the new lamp exchange program the woman says in this way she hopes to reduce electricity consumption at home this indeed tens of times in electricity savings, which is really extremely relevant. now we have counted, for example, e-e with the family, what if we change, for example, 10

of led light bulbs, it essentially replaces one hundred , from january 30, ukrainians can exchange up to five serviceable incandescent bulbs for free at one time and receive the same amount of energy savings in return. to this branch in which the customer has chosen for himself well, according to his wish , the chosen place where he can exchange it and these bulbs are waiting for him for five days , it is possible to use the exchange and without prior registration, you can simply bring a light bulb with passport data and an identification code is addressed to the operator to any operator of the branch, yes, as part of the project in ukraine, they plan to replace 50 million lamps, partly with financing , the european union and the french government are helping to test the service, even the president of the european commission managed to test the service ursovo fondan is simply very energy-saving, how much energy

does it save led lamps reduce the load on ukraine's energy system, which was significantly damaged by russian shelling , government officials say, full implementation programs where it is possible to unload one nuclear reactor because it is millions of light bulbs and this is one energy-saving light bulb, it saves eight times more electricity than usual, and this project will help save up to 10% of our electricity in general, if the light bulb does not work in any department, it will be exchanged for a working one sometimes old lamps are disposed of , up to 5 million lamps will be brought to the lviv region, this will be enough for two-thirds of the residents of the region to use the program from february 25, the exchange will be available in villages and mobile offices of ukrposhta kateryna oliynyk andriy polyakovskiy tv channel espresso 199 russians were on the sanctions list of the corresponding decree signed by president volodymyr zelenskyy after the decision of the national security

and defense council , the security service proposed a list of citizens of the russian federation on this list, there is also one ukrainian traitor yuriy cherniychuk, the deputy chief engineer of the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant who went over to the side of the occupiers , and among the representatives of the aggressor country, the head of the russian energy agency, andriy petrov, is putin's assistant from foreign policy, yuriy ushakov and others, the first launch of a missile drone took place in ukraine, the corresponding video was published on the social network of a senior researcher at the shevchenko university chemistry faculty and the head of uroket, serhii pico, according to some media in ukraine, they are also working on the production of their own long-range missiles and about a victory on the sports front of ukraine yevhen marusiak became the winner of the continental ski jumping cup

competitions are held in germany our athlete jumped 138 and 135.5 m and won a gold award. this is the first victory at a competition of this level in the history of ukraine . almost 30 winter fishing enthusiasts were saved in dnipropetrovsk region. men were drifting on ice floes 150 m from the shore . eyewitnesses saw them and immediately called the rescue service. the incident took place near the village of shulgivka, the petrykiv settlement council allowed fishermen from the ice cap, er , rescue diving groups were allowed, and local residents also helped. here's what's going on at

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what you want on megogo thank you friends i'm very glad you came to today's meeting because i think that these are difficult times in you see me so often at first during the pandemic period , which almost imperceptibly changed for us into the period of war, it is absolutely obvious that in such a situation people usually virtualize, as a rule , real communication is limited to be honest, now i often think about how young people grow up who do not have normal communication in school groups, for example, student groups, how does socialization happen now, it does not happen at all, people

who are now there from 15 to 25 years old. they have a completely different experience of social growth than the experience that had previous generations and another very important point. of course, when people don't meet in some social circles, if i, when they don't go out, uh, to offices, like when they don't go out to some family circles, when they usually communicate in a virtual mode on computers and think that this is basically communication , well, if so, but we see each other on the screen, we talked how are you? it 's great . some experts or some video bloggers or some videos e-e run away to be mentioned , the impression of a certain contact is created and therefore, by the way , then we get a shock after every real event when we meet real

people and think because they turn out to be gods they think completely differently than we do, and they have completely different sources of information than ours, where do they get all this from, i don't know what happens when we and these people meet at the elections, and they vote the way they do. i think it's not bad a sign of what happened to people over all these recent years were the words of many western politicians and experts about the president of russia, vladimir putin, that vladimir putin, during the isolation period of the pandemic, finally lost his mind

moved to the reality in which he was always comfortable, but he had, like every state leader, communication with a large circle of people and could imagine that people somehow think differently, that there are some other facts, that there is some kind of discussion even in the closest environment . and when you live in a friendly families of your own bodyguards who tell you of course volodymyr volodymyrovych lungs volodymyr volodymyrovych then you eventually clearly begin to understand that everything that has to happen to you is determined by god and that what you decide to do is it will certainly be as you wish. by the way, this is not the first time in russian history, i want to remind you that the most terrible events in russian history happened precisely during the isolation of leaders and kings, the meat of the isolation of ivan the terrible, but for us, the time of isolation of joseph stalin is much closer

in the last years of his life, there are about 50. the first 53 years . i am not saying that stalin was a realistic person before that, but the last years of his life are complete madness, but his communication was very limited due to the pandemic. there was, but the pandemic was already in stalin's head, he was paranoid, he was afraid of his own, that's why he communicated exclusively with the security and with three or four members of the political bureau of the party , already the presidential church, who usually looked at him with frightened eyes and never in their life even burned a single one of them opinion that it is possible to contradict him, let me remind you that in stalin's inner circle at the time of his death, even this closest associate of many decades, vyacheslav molotov

, was no longer there, there was not a single person in principle who i could talk to him and not just look scared. and here is the matter of doctors, the korean war, thoughts about the deportation of jews to siberia , the idea of ​​the possibility of a nuclear attack on the united states, we do not know what would have happened if stalin had not died in march 1953. then he didn't die, if putin died after the coronavirus pandemic, then we also had thoughts of god. if he didn't die, he would definitely start a war with ukraine , let's say, he would definitely start destroying everything around him, he would definitely threaten nuclear with a weapon, and so he died, maybe he had such plans, maybe he didn't. well, he didn't die , you know the important thing now is that everything is happening in our history that we don't want to see or want to see. i always say that it was very interesting

i would see what would have happened in 1938 if nothing had been done. i would have come to munich for a meeting with hitler and whether berlin had told hitler that we believe that czechoslovakia should remain territorially intact and we will defend it and help it . if you try to occupy it by force part of its territory, how would history have gone in general, or had world war ii started in general, or would there have been an attack pact between the soviet union and hitler's germany , would poland have been occupied, or would hitler have attacked the soviet union , maybe everything would have been different, maybe everything would have ended in czechoslovakia with this only difference that the whole world around could be peaceful and more or less calm, and czechoslovakia itself could be completely destroyed and we would see in the place of prague what we now

see in the place of dresden and so on the other hand prague is whole and beautiful, but everything around it was completely destroyed. and in principle, i have to tell you that in 2022 we saw such a chamberlain who said in hyperonyms that we will defend ukraine. we do not think that you should take away part of its territory, and we turned out to be in a role that czechoslovakia could play in 1938, if the west decided that it was worthy of protection from the point of view of its territorial integrity, from the point of view of the general attitude of great britain, france to the threat from berlin , of course you will not rewrite everything, but i just i say that what we are seeing now are a lot of historical uh-uh events that maybe, in principle , could not have happened on our fates and you, this one

requires a certain responsibility, why i am talking about war and the truth because, as a rule, when a war begins, people do not really think about the truth in general in war, as a rule, the untruth wins, and lies make it much easier for people to live in the world of illusions, because the truth is, firstly , painful, secondly, it forces you to make difficult choices, and secondly, it deprives you, let's say , of the illusions necessary for survival, and it's always here the question of what is really needed for survival in the strategic sense of the word, do you need to know the truth or do you need to hope for an illusion

before the start of the war there 11 months ago, i heard many times that i did not understand why i scare people when i say that a major conflict is inevitable and that this major conflict can lead to events that we can't even imagine on ukrainian earth, to missile attacks, to millions of refugees, to the possibility of a migration crisis in european countries. by the way, not everything i said. not everything is a threat, fortunately there was no migration crisis in european countries, i drew certain parallels for myself with the migration crisis during the syrian war, and for that reason, by the way, i did not understand why we were so frightened by the words of pope francis

, who said that the ukrainian refugees in europe was treated differently than the middle easterners, this may not be very pleasant for us to hear, but it is true to a certain extent , the issue is not even that we are better integrated into european life than refugees from the countries of the middle east, although this the truth is that we integrate better because it is a very close civilization, nothing special happens. i am not talking about the fact that most of the people who moved to european countries in the first months of the war are people who had been to europe several times before that. they knew where they were going. people who saw saw people who had already been there more than once, and even if they were not, the very structure of their lives was very similar to the structure of the people to whom they came, as refugees from the middle east, as a rule

, they came to such a world for the first time. things in turkey, there was no migration crisis at least more, it was much more because people got into a world whose rules were much more familiar to them. well, and secondly, there was, i would say, such a possible fright of europeans in connection with these people even when they had not yet seen them, most of all they considered themselves threatened by these migration processes, those countries in which there were almost no migrants. this is also quite an interesting fact from this story, but i will not answer about it, i just use it as an illustration the fact that even a person who tries to predict the consequences of certain war events cannot necessarily say so precisely because then some unexpected things begin.

is possibly not avoidable and that every person who lives in a country that is on the verge of such a confrontation she should, in principle , draw up a plan of action for herself. i thought that it was incredibly dangerous to say you know nothing will happen, we should not look up and then it will be about a serious problem for our economy . because any state is not a territory , it's not an economy. i'm sorry, it's people. people need to be saved. if people are saved , then you will have the territory because they will be able to liberate it, and then the economy

because it will be able to do something if you don't save them. people, you have no economy and no territory, even if you liberate all this territory, there will be no one to live there physically. i believe that it is necessary to make plans for the survival of the nation, this is the most important task before any war, but people did not really want to hear about it, and it was to a certain extent, my professional problem now is when i say that of course we all want the war to end in 2023. or better yet, in 2022, but it can also end in 2024-2025. there are options, like any war. we cannot clearly say that this is the day of victory. the year of victory the month of victory, we must clearly tell people that they must learn to live in a war process, that we must be a state and a society capable of surviving in such conditions

and not counting on a sprint, because in such a situation, people are determined that something will happen tomorrow, then burnout usually follows those societies survive these war processes that are able to realize all their danger and all their burden and this is also a very important point when we talk about the truth, the third point that i always consider what is quite dangerous in our conditions is the extent to which, if you like, there are propagandistic currents. this was not the case during any of the great wars, because people, as a rule, do not know foreign languages. this helps. foreign languages ​​were known only by a small

part of society during the war of 1812, the russian aristocracy . i knew for sure that napoleon does not eat babies for breakfast french roman french and russian newspapers they did not read them because they were not comilfo, but the people did not know that i napoleon eh does not eat babies for breakfast that is why all these propagandist eh the announcements, let's say there was an old man in moscow, they were not intended for pierre bezzukhov, but for those people who stayed with the french in the then imperial capital and were afraid of them like fire and rejoiced at any fire that drove these french out of the cities during during the second world war, it can be said that an important discovery

in propaganda and broadcasting was made . this is when german radio stations began to speak in english . this is when british radio stations began to speak in german. they came to any city, took away radios, used radios. it was a crime not to have any alternative information, not to listen to the bbc, relatively speaking , because the bbc could speak the language of the population that was in this occupation zone, whether there was a moscow radio station for kyiv or some other minsk, but in any case, one way or another , the population could mostly perceive

information only in their own language, and it was necessary to try to get the population of ukraine, with which you are at war, to convey information in their own language. it was really necessary to buy this territory first and then start publishing your own radio stations and start opening there. and yet not every person wanted to work with the occupation authorities because they understood that it was a big problem. and there was also a serious problem that was connected with the fact that on the one hand, you work with the occupation administration , the occupation administration may simply not know the language in which you publish this publication. and you do not have a precise understanding of a professional

million problems which, by the way, later already in times of the cold war were also felt in the so-called surrogate journalism, when entire information holdings were created on both sides, designed for the country of broadcasting, not your own country, when radio freedom of the free europe appeared on the one hand, and on the other hand , soviet and dictated, and it was soviet dictated when it there , the program was made in english, it was freer than all other propaganda channels of the soviet union , because even in soviet and broadcasting , they understood that if you talk to people in the vocabulary and style that is accepted anastosoyuz radio, people simply won't understand what we're talking about, they won't be able to realize it, but in our conditions, in the conditions of our war, we still have to deal with the population , a society that knows one hundred percent the language

of the enemy, and of this 100%, a certain part, that is, at least half they communicate in this language as a household one, it is for her, for this part , the main one. i would say informational, the main linguistic reference point. situations when we ourselves do not realize that we are beginning to adapt to the russian vision of reality. i have always believed that there is a huge danger in this, there is a danger when, say, a ukrainian international journalist , and i began to make sure that most of my colleagues who come to the international journalist know especially when the internet appeared. they read about world events in the russian media, which traditionally had international information at a much higher level

than we, which had correspondent points in in different countries of the world who made reports from many countries and the most important thing is in the language in which it is easy for you to read all this when you work in an anti-corruption agency or in a newspaper because in english or french or german it is also necessary to strain to understand what they want from you, especially when you studied there english or french or german at the soviet university. and here you admire yourself, as if you are in another country, working in another journalism, but you remain in the same ricci as it has become for you. i would say systematically forming even before the appearance of your state as independent, and this to some extent reconstructs even the style of thinking even of journalism that works with society and the society that ultimately receives information from this

journalist thought about it that because i had my own life experience, i repeatedly he told me that in principle i began to form as a person who wanted to write something in the school broadsheet when i read the yugoslav press because somehow from the very beginning i would begin to see that all these four-column soviet newspapers they are written in some kind of idiotic way, and i was looking for something else. i accidentally found yugoslavian newspapers, which at that time came to kyiv newsstands because we had some students from yugoslavia. we didn't have students, they just were in the soviet union, but it was such an arrangement that three of his slavic newspapers in kyiv , three yugoslav newspapers in tashkent, that's how it was.