[000:00:00;00] germany's dependence on china's economic ties there, that is, on energy carriers from e-e materials e-e that are mined in china, and it is precisely this dependence that scares the germans very much, and in principle, well, in this interview, he is the head of german intelligence, he is not naviv are there any specific facts or statistics, did they catch more german spies there, that is, most likely, i still think that it is more about the influence of the chinese on, firstly, the decisions that will be made in germany, and secondly, they simply they want to know what kind of decisions it will be yes will they be in favor of china or will they be against china because china is really serious about this right now and is trying to figure it out in advance and how much is this story with this hot air balloon in general

about the activity of chinese intelligence is extraordinary because i remember that there was a story when donald trump was the president of the united states , the chinese company huawei was accused of espionage because they supplied their electronics, in particular to mobile network operators, some electronics were discovered in these electronics devices that allowed to collect and transfer data and as a result of which huawei came under sanctions and in fact because of this the company suffered colossal losses eh what is happening now it goes beyond the limits of some kind well we understand that everyone is spying on everyone anyway that what is happening now goes beyond normality in this matter, well, look, it is so , we all apologize for everyone, but it goes beyond normality when we see that these data are really not being used illegally, well, if in such a way that they harm your interests in some way, yes, that is, if someone collects information about you through a mobile phone, but

you do not know about it and it does not happen in your life in any way, will you continue to use a mobile phone? do you yourself transfer your personal data when paying online about payments and so on yes. that is, you actually authorize such a transfer of such data, but if this data is really removed without your knowledge and then you meet somewhere, somewhere, this data is somehow used against you, uh, you lose something due to the loss of this data, of course, in such a way. in such a situation, the united states or other countries will protect their citizens from such data, so let's say that laws are passed so that data about american citizens is not stored on servers there, for example in china and so on, but everything is fine in this infrastructure now , it is very difficult to track and indeed well, it is possible that china is china, it can be a leader in the accumulation

of such data, is this and the story a syndrome with something special and well, is this a non-drone and an aerog let's say a layer, i don't think it's special because it's happened before , i don't think it's something huge, and baidy basically said that it's not considered an incident that's too safe for the national security of the united states, nevertheless, they reacted now much tougher than it was, for example, even during trump's time, when such bullets were also spotted on the territory of the united states . but they were not shot down then, mr. oleksiy, meanwhile , alarming news is coming from china, for example, that china will buy veran in 15

000 drones and he can get this lot in the near future, and at the same time, by 2035, china will triple its own nuclear potential and bring the number of warheads to 900, that's what these news indicate, well, these are ideas where the modernization of the chinese army is going well. well, it is going many years ago, it was determined that there would be an increase . well, this is not the largest nuclear arsenal that the usa and russia have, and they have much more nuclear potential, and china is just now just trying to catch up with them, and in principle, well, i don’t i think that this threatens the united states more, of course, these drones do not threaten us either. i think it is also positive because i think that if china buys such a number, then they will not reach russia and china will certainly not use them to strike ukraine or he will most likely use it for his own purposes. and

will iran be able to provide such a number of drones? i am not sure about this , because as far as we know in russia, it has delivered much less uh such drones. that is i don’t know where this number of 15,000 comes from, that is, whether the iranian industry can produce so many drones oleksia, and maybe not on the topic of relations between china and russia, but on a topic that is closer and more important to us, do you see any signs that china is changing its position on the war in ukraine well, let's change his position, we see a certain dynamic, it is that china was neutral at first, he declared that this does not concern him, and now he is putting forward some initiatives and let's let's wait. i think there will be a very important vote at the un on the anniversary of russia's attack on ukraine, and there will be a resolution for which

china will also vote, where the territorial integrity and independence of ukraine will be confirmed , and that it must be preserved. -what is the outcome of this war? i think that china is now facing such a very important choice for itself : how will it vote , how should it vote? monitor this vote oleksiy koval, journalist, international member of the board of the ukrainian association of chinese studies, was in direct contact with us, my friends, next we will talk about important international political events that happened this week, in particular, about the visit of our president to europe, we will talk about what to expect from russia on the anniversary of a large-scale invasion, more about all this, but for now it is important information look, please tell me honestly

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. see you together. thank you for your time. let's start with an intriguing statement by the minister of foreign affairs. mr. kuleba's ukraine russia will remember how the world will mark the anniversary of its full-scale aggression against ukraine . various events will take place that will send a very clear signal to president putin that if you, putin, are playing a game of exhaustion and think that time is on your side, then you are deeply mistaken because unity with ukraine is only growing every day and in this war you will definitely lose by february 24, there will be new sanctions, they will be announced in different countries

in different institutions, this will also be part of this signal of unity for the sake of victory, mr. valentin, this is about the fact that the 10th package of sanctions is being prepared, it will be timed until february 24 the anniversary of the full-scale invasion of the russian federation, in principle, it's not a secret for russia, it knows this because this package is being discussed , so how will russia remember this day? what other surprises are our western partners preparing for russia? i think that these surprises are here again well, there are some surprises in the details of the surprise, but in the conceptual plan absolutely well, no surprises. but i think that this will apply separately to the strengthening of sanctions pressure. i think that it is also the strengthening of military and technical assistance to ukraine, and that is, there can be a new rammstein there without waiting. and the main thing who is inclined to think that soon we will see serious progress in a very fundamental

issue, at first it was about freezing russian assets or russian oligarchs . now we already have precedents when their assets are, well, confiscated, well, arrested are confiscated and handed over we even discussed the situation with this fund of abramovich in the studio well, the beautiful one is named, in fact, we understand that in fact the money is confiscated and handed over to the fund that will spend these funds on solving humanitarian problems in ukraine and i think that soon we will see in the implementation of other states , and it will first go to individuals or business entities. and in the future , i think it may even come to the point that they constantly appeal to yes that this cannot be done to i don't know their sovereign there, the sovereign assets that are there on which the relevant immunity is extended, well, such immunity is also extended to the territorial

integrity of the state sovereignty, if it's not you, if they think that this immunity is very selective, yes. what can bespredel do here? i'm sorry for hanging on, but here i appeal to the norms of international law and say no, no, you can't touch us, because this is the same type of law that just wants to tell them in the words of their well-known, well, soviet film, and you stole it according to soviet law. well, that's why if you act, you exceed the norms of international law, if you don't just sneeze at them, but openly violate them, you despise them, and you do it with special cynicism, not even caring about it and not hiding it, just because you signed it yourself , of course, then there is nothing strange that you open the door in this way because these practices are normalized by others and then when the wave reaches you later , you are like that i didn't want to i didn't think about it so there will be consequences this is another aspect

well, finally, i would like you to know what else to see and it is actually already taking place, i would like to see a greater manifestation of solidarity not only from our main partners, but because we saw a lot of information about how the citizens of the baltic countries raised funds for drones, we see how was the taxi done in poland? well, we saw today that there was information about what other azerbaijani businessmen who worked in ukraine are buying a humanitarian aid, buying transport, and now there again izyum bakhmut is providing help, and i am sure that such the manifestations themselves are also the implementation of other businessmen who have, well, i would say it should be not only a state initiative, but also a private initiative, i think that kuleba is also aware that this wave, if you can say so , is a private initiative, it also cannot be stopped maybe more than that, i remember how he also said in one of the broadcasts that azerbaijanis are helping ukraine and me, my

friends. well, the armenians said, you're wrong, you forgot. we also help. i have no more questions , let's go and wait for me nothing georgian call them, they said that we also help, well, i mean, of course, if it’s a joke, i’m trying, but just if someone there wants to compete . but another very telling point is that people perceive the opportunity to take part in these processes as an honor for themselves and as something that gives them the opportunity to be proud, that is, this is a very important thing. i think that this process cannot be stopped in the white house. i will remind you that it has already been confirmed er, that joseph biden will visit poland in the days before the anniversary of the full-scale invasion, approximately february 20, 20, 22, and

john kerbe and biden's assistant said that he may not mean i want to talk about the importance for the international community of maintaining determination and unity in the matter of supporting the ukrainian during this year is 2023. and what do you think we can expect from russia ? well, for example, my mother calls me and says, "what are you waiting for on february 24? i say, well , i don't expect anything that we haven't seen yet as far as i am right i think 100%. because everything they can do, at least within the limits of conventional weapons, they have already used everything, that is, you said surprises. can we make any surprise for russia? surprise no, it can't, well, that is , they are conducting a mobilization

. well, they are conducting a mobilization. well, they are preparing an offensive. they are pushing well, where they fail, well, they don’t push, well, where the situation is generally bad, where our self-defense forces have the opportunity to conduct counteroffensive actions or operations, well , accordingly, they liberate those territories, so what can they do to blow us away, that now russian scientists will find some wunderwaffe, well, there was one such character who did not finish well. yes, in the history of the 20th century, there is also wunderwaffe . well, i was delusional, and i don’t think that they can say anything there. well, you can declare war. well , in general, it is absolutely because lavrov is playing all over the world and will tell that we didn't attack ukraine . well, it's just that this one is beyond the limits of any healthy hawthorn. well, okay , they'll declare war, then what's next, they'll announce a general mobilization, so they're carrying it out in russia, well, it's officially somewhere, somewhere hidden. well, what? will change, that is, they will bring the economy to the military rails, so they transferred it a long time ago, well, to the extent that they manage to do it again , well, what will change more for them from that

, uh, i don't know the resources there, well, no, how were they , well, is there scientific potential or organizational their potential or personnel, their potential will increase from that. no, that's why we'll hear another pathetic statement. i think that it will be reviewed, how to say, roughly like this. well, if they have at least the remnants of the second sense, then they can say that. well, we really started with a special military operation, but this insidious measure essentially led to the escalation of the conflict, and to this day , the family is in danger . now we have to take not only relics uh, it's secret on the new buche and in vatutin to ask that nova poshta somehow forwards it to us. i don't know. nova poshta transports corpses. no, i don't know. it can be used in such a unique case

. it can be, well, in principle, there are a lot of corpses from ukraine in russia. now they are taking out polythene bags, so in principle one more one less, well, in the grand scheme of things, it does not play a role. well, he will say that now we have to unite with this and give it to vitya or the satanists. but then again, he already said it. i came to say well about the fact that the giant brigade of marines, which no longer exists , continues to wage battles. so, i don’t know who the nastatanist really are, how they can only fight because of the nihrimenti of valentin otse and the rally and concert that putin is organizing on february 22. what exactly are they celebrating with in the summer they are fighting for bakhmut, how many people have been put there and there is no result, we just don’t understand their results , everything is going according to plan well, first according to plan , this moscow was flooded well, then according to plan

, kyiv region was liberated, then according to plan, they liberated kharkiv oblast, then the south of ukraine, now they are continuing to televise according to the plan , well, the remnants, well, first of all the wagnerites, and secondly, the personnel, well, the military, well, this is the plan. that is, it is difficult to understand what is being said because there is no plan at all no , well, how did you see what this propagandist of theirs said. she said that it is not necessary to demand from our military and political leadership that they announce the plans because well, in order not to tease, you understand, you can well, we announced that we will take kyiv there in three days and we didn't take everything, someone teased us, in short, we will not announce the next plans, and then, depending on the results achieved or the lack of results, we will say that it was so, well, she . well, the concert will be held stupidly. what is the difference, that is, and what? well, the main thing is that it will be poured. well, everything is normal, that is, everything is going according to plan, there is no panic, so it is necessary to talk about the plans of the russians, in particular, to

the ukrainians. of the project is to force us into the situation that has developed on the korean peninsula. the secretary of the nsdc told about this . according to him, the invaders are reviving the political technologists of yanukovych's time and are already starting their dirty work on the territory of ukraine. they are sitting now in monaco and are accompanying it believe me there will be no second ukraine oleksiy danilov secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine p valentin what do you think about korean scenario and if we talk about the second ukraine, then why is it to putin, he doesn’t believe in the existence of the first one, well, it’s really a crisis of the genre, just because, well, how could it be taken to annex the territory by including them

in the composition of your state, even the corresponding changes to the russian constitution federations well, having caused a bunch of pranks and jokes about the fact that putin is the only aggressor in the world who annexed the territory when his troops were leaving the territory well, what’s next now, why didn’t china annex if someone didn’t aware of north korea, but the united states did not annex south korea , yes, although we understand what kind of forces there actually competed , that is, there really was a civil war there , two political regimes that had different, again, well, the orientations had support, there is a lot of support for this the topic of literature, even feature films, you can watch and imagine what actually happened there. well, then there is simply a confrontation between two systems , yes, that is, a lot of different third-party subjects will get involved. well, but you have to understand that there are two states, well, that is, there are two states, and we must understand that the current korean scenario is not the end of history, so

that appropriate efforts are still being made to unify the koreas, yes, to somehow overcome this, and they are being done yes, by the koreans themselves. yes, by the south and the north. well, on the international stage, let's remember how long trump tried to solve this problem . well, the firm theorem didn't work for him. so he decided to resolve the korean crisis in a shorter way. but you have to understand that the situation is unstable. they are all one thing is that militarization is increasing, yes, that is, they have a peace agreement between south korea and the united states. well, north korea does not hide its ambitious militaristic attitudes. that is, the schedule is not the same there in general, and if we return now from korea to ukraine, then here it is. well, we had to honestly admit how can it be so only when the parties achieve , uh, military parity? well, when none of the parties can significantly change their situation by military means, when the situation will really come

to an end. the world war is now a pit war. well, when you are stupid, in short, you are digging nowhere, they cannot move anywhere, but i will repeat , the korean scenario was politically legalized, that is, relevant agreements were reached, so far nothing indicates that similar agreements can be reached in principle, i just do not understand as putin wants to surpass, he now wants to hold a referendum on those territories where he held his own fixation yes and that the people there will vote for the creation of ukraine - two, that is, on leaving the russian federation and the transformation of the ukrainian soviet socialist republic well, the ussr is simply in contrast, yes, that is, they will have and they will create some kind of state of the ukrainian ssr well, how what was it, so that i do not confuse the russian abbreviation, so that they will name it here, the ukrainian ssr yanukovych was brought to minsk well, you do not know why why they cannot have such a plan, well, north korea is a subject of international law. well, it is somehow recognized , that is, no one objected, including south

korea. well, i can hardly imagine that anyone in the world can admit all this. well, i don't know that. there are currently occupied territories, it’s even the term ordlo. it’s gone forever, he died, he doesn’t have it, it’s all, uh, temporarily occupied territories . well, plus, there’s also this war zone, that’s why all the threads are about the korean scenario. well, listen , it’s just such historical parallels. you know, they immediately form ideas, but i honestly can’t imagine political tools, yes, that is, with the help of this, you can achieve it, i can imagine that the war will really come to a dead end, hypothetically , yes, that is, but even though this does not say anything, yes well, for now, the parties will be able to move, but that does not mean that we will agree, let's say ok, we admit that this territory is not our territory now, let there be the ukrainian ssr, or is there

lugandonia ? they will say that it's ok. in short, we sign the agreement, get out of the sanctions, and everything is like nothing happened, that is, i don't know, it's schizophrenia. it definitely won't happen, and meanwhile vladimir putin and his team continue to instill that in everyone. what negotiations are needed, they are ready for negotiations, ukraine is not ready and even already includes mediators, the president of brazil has offered himself as a mediator in the negotiations between kyiv and moscow. and who else can be called and why do they need so many mediators? in order to increase some significance of this idea well, i think that the president of brazil probably spent a very long time in prison, he has not completely thawed out yet, and he has not completely understood what is happening in the newspapers for a long time, well, this is despite the fact that in fact, he

really , well, he deserves respect , he was probably one of the best presidents in the history of brazil, if we talk about him, he is a satellite. well, hmm, a powerful figure of the world level ago well, in fact, ukraine does not say that we are not ready to negotiate, we also clearly stated the prerequisites in order to start some negotiation steps. point one is the liberation of the territory of ukraine from the russians and point two - this is a statement by zelenskyi and there is a decision of the security and defense council of ukraine, again approved by the decree of the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi that there can be no negotiations with the putin regime, well, that is , simply put, in principle, we are ready to conduct negotiations with the russian federation as a sub object of international law, on the condition that the political regime changes there and some other legal and legitimate uh, well, the leader of the government, some of it, will appear there, we are ready

to further settle the issue of coexistence well, on the condition, again, that they take off from the territory of ukraine within the internationally recognized borders, and then there is the so-called mir zelenskyi formula, which is currently recognized by everyone in the world. then we will move alphabetically. well, in principle, we are ready to negotiate we will not apply, for example, to the kuban, or there to starodubshchyna, this may be the subject of negotiations there, the russians are ready for negotiations. so why are you refusing negotiations, russians? well, listen, we propose to conduct negotiations on the transition of the kuban starodubshchyna to the composition the ukrainian state, well, they don't want to talk about it, somehow they take three destructive positions, again, in order to demonstrate how absurd theses can be, that is, when they put forward the same counter-theses, they look absolutely ridiculous and it's all completely delusional propagandistic, they just want to show that they are supposedly white , fluffy, that there was no buche well, there was no kharkiv region, that is, there were no all those

horror crimes, there were no rapes, killings, torture, destruction of peaceful ukrainian cities, there was no such thing absolutely senseless invasion, well, for some reason everything in itself is a crime, there were no barbaric attacks on civilian infrastructure, that is, they did not steal at all, they attacked in a strange way , for some reason, ukraine does not want to negotiate with them about what to negotiate . danylo made this statement because the deputy head of the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation serhii vershinin in an interview with the tv channel zvezda said about the negotiations, i will not go into everything completely, but he said that we are ready for negotiations without preconditions for negotiations on the basis of the reality that exists yes, there is ukraine. the ukrainian armed forces are inflicting more and more tangible loss of the russian federation. well, that is, reality may look like this for them. i just don't understand what reality they are talking about .

well, we have to just accept it as a given and move on from it. well, then i understand why they are so modest about it. why did they forget to announce it to kharkiv oblast? well, because the competition is still occupied by russia federation and on the border with the luhansk region well, in the same way, that is, they were guided by his logic in general. that is, it is just a refined delusion, but their analogy and reality, they want to say that well, they want it to be as it was with crimea, even though with crimea , so this itself did not pass because no one in the world recognized the annexation of crimea and to this day crimea is not considered by anyone to be the territory of the russian federation, well, except for the russians themselves. well, the russians consider many other things that i don't know to be incompatible with common sense and not to mention the norms of international law, so if we are talking about what they want to convey, and i also think that they emphasize the fact that no well, in principle, the war continues, in principle, we have an army and in principle we can