[000:00:00;00] it’s really too much, so they feed normally . good, thank god. the men made their own kitchen from the summer terrace. here for lunch today is pea soup, buckwheat porridge, baked pork and stew. constantly fresh food is also prepared according to the menu approved by the food service for all the military armed forces of ukraine, we store meat in

freezers here, there is a freezer for meat here for fish, we store sausages from the stem, well, hard cheese is like that, smaller things like that, beets are ready for borscht, hard cheese is like that, the rest is after that, there is one ice cream parlor, there are dumplings that are brought to us by volunteers. i like to cook everything. the main thing is that it should be tasty. to ours, we showed food in the brigades that are currently in the rear and in the combat zone. but the soldiers who go on combat missions mostly take dry food with them. of course , each brigade has different suppliers and can be of different quality of products, in addition, volunteers bring a lot, however, the cooks try to improve the food so that it is tasty and home-style, because they are convinced that the tastier they feed the defenders, the better they will serve khrystyna parubiy andriy

polikovskiy tv channel express to our colleagues andriy polikovskiy and khrystyna parubiy for this extremely informative one can even say that it is a delicious spectacle, although of course we understand that in certain areas of the front, where fierce battles continue, the situation may differ from this fairly stable stories, now let's talk about money, food, and not only we are joining our marathon roman likhachev, representative of the helsinki union for human rights, a lawyer in our studio mykhailo tsimbalyuk , people's deputy of ukraine, deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on social policy and protection of veterans' rights, lieutenant general of police in reserve so we congratulate you good day yes good day thank you for joining let's talk about money about providing for the military this is very important since february 1 for military personnel who are in the rear and do not perform their tasks in the east, south or north of the country, these additional

payments were canceled there, they were 30,000 each, and at the same time , they promised to raise the salary of all military personnel , uh, how to treat this, because there are different opinions and it is clear that it is not discussed, but it was less than that and it is not . i was traveling on the train literally yesterday with a woman, she says that the son is a soldier, and well, the guys are used to having 30,000 each, now there is no p romano what is the matter and this promise to raise the salary or is it will be balanced in these moments well, first of all, as a lawyer, i always believe the documents that i see, i have not yet seen a regulatory act that clearly defines the increase in salaries, that is , monetary support for the military, what format will it be, and how much money will actually be raised security, these will be official salaries according to the military rank, so far i have only seen the reports

of the ministry of defense and the general staff in various er sources, that is, i am used to believing in the documents that you took 30,000 er additional allowance, well, actually er, still this is a decrease in the financial support. and now we have to see how much the financial support will be increased . since we understand that many of the families of the military are from abroad. they receive their families and spend money on the purchase and equipment of drones and everything else. i.e. well, the issue of monetary support for the military is a rather urgent issue, there are many more questions, e.

when the wounded are not paid by military units, that is, in general, i believe that quite a lot should be paid attention to how payments are actually made, and not how it is written even in the normative armies, because at the level of military units, unfortunately , there are quite often appeals by servicemen who are wounded are in hospitals about the fact that official investigations into the circumstances of their injury are being conducted there for quite a long time for several months for the payment of an additional monetary reward . thank you in our studio mykhailo tsimbalyuk people's deputy of ukraine, representative of the specialized committee, deputy chairman of the specialized committee, mr. mykhailo, first deputy, please be kind. well, actually

, i agree with what was said by the expert. there are problems and, uh, not isolated. moreover, there is an appeal from the families of the victims, where there is also a process of paying them compensation, because the promised 15 million is not so easy in terms of payments , in fact, i have not seen any yet either of the normative document, although i agree that it is necessary to raise the monetary support for the payment for the title of seniority, but according to the information that i have unofficially , it still will not stretch to such an amount, which is today, for example, 10-12 to 15,000 and plus 30,000 of this reward due to that question is for the higher military and political leadership, who then appointed this payment because they appointed it on behalf of the state, and now they want to take away the military personnel, they believe that it is

unfair and when someone says that we are establishing the opposite, we will remove e equalization then this is unfair, because today they are taking risks, and also those who are not at zero and are on assignment are only today on combat duty in other places and can fly anywhere, sorry, this is unfair , because according to modest calculations, they can raise official salaries and all other payments to a maximum of 30 000 monetary support in general is unfair and we at the social policy committee recently held a round table inviting representatives of the ministry of defense of other power structures, representatives of the ministry of finance and the ministry of economy and no one gave me

there is no professional answer to what is going on, the representative of the ministry of defense, mrs. malyar, deputy. she said that they did it at the request of those who are at ground zero. i do not believe in such a thing. that is why we will continue to demand that at the request of those who are at ground zero, they are deprived of cinema zero. and those somewhere there in the rear in the rear and receive beams, moreover, this applies to representatives of other power structures who are also fighting. this means the national guard , the national police, the state border service - these are the guys who today take participation in hostilities because of that, we expect to hear an answer from the leadership

of the committee on issues of our tax and financial department at the very next session. the families of the military are contacting the military themselves now. and how should it be normalized in a civilized way? this is the whole issue of payments and the difference between who, where , and what positions. well, i will say that the families of the dead soldiers uh, about uh, all cases are conducted. suffice it to say, there is poor communication with military units. unfortunately, including through the procurement center, how is it wrong to go through uh, for several months, waiting for payments of the corresponding uh, people collect a lot of documents that actually i believe that inappropriate recruitment centers can help collect quite a lot of appeals for injuries received and not only

appeals and judges are now quite a lot on the partially closed unified state register of court decisions, but if it is currently open you can see that a very large number of servicemen apply to military units, there is a real problem with the fact that this one hundred thousand allowance is actually in many military units, the command does not know how to pay it, not to pay it, even sometimes the commanders say that it is better not to pay it, then i will receive the corresponding the decision of the court and paid the servicemen ah, then if i pay incorrectly, then i will be held financially responsible, that is, quite incorrectly, the regulatory acts are written so that quite often, military personnel, well, from the example of even today’s e-e, the commander did not include combat orders, specific lists of military personnel who participate and they

don’t even understand and what is a combat defeat ? do not include them. what should be done about it, that is, where it is not prescribed, there are abuses and underpayments, that is, for the families of military personnel, uh, i think that uh, after a year of war, it is necessary raising this issue and normalizing the legislation, i think it is wrong when the 15 million payment that was originally promised to be made immediately, now 3 million is being made, everything else is being phased out for 40 months. that is , i don’t even understand a lot of such questions. if we have enough funds from the state budget, then this issue should be raised, that is, i believe that if social guarantees are promised, then they

should be fulfilled, because it is trust in the state as a whole and not only in a specific commander of a military unit. yes, mr. roman we agree that it needs to be somehow regulated and untangled at the systemic level. and we simply understand what bureaucracy is, what bureaucracy is, whether we like it or not. it has always been in any ministry of defense of any state. but now, in the present tense , i would like to believe that there are some more optimal models, yes, which allow you to shorten this paper communication path of a serviceman who wants to get what belongs to him , yes, yes, there is a resolution of the cabinet of ministers under number 413, changes have been made to it by the way the changes that were proposed, including military personnel, where it is clearly written as an algorithm of actions in one or another situation, why do not the representatives of the ministry of defense and other military formations implement this, we

talked about it. by the way, i prepared an appeal to the prime minister of the prime minister of ukraine with proposals that we prepared together with representatives of veteran organizations and representatives of military units, what needs to be clearly stated so that what my colleague said, so that they do not contact the military unit again after being wounded, they take the certificate again they returned to the velka and there they confirmed on the basis of this certificate that a serviceman was indeed injured on such a day under such circumstances, having a combat mission, there is an order for this. sorry, not paper. today, everything can be digitized and done online, don't drive me away. i'm sorry for such an expression of our military heroes who

drive here and there with humiliation and collect these certificates, wasting time and, uh, humiliating themselves because all this is possible, there is an objective side that in fact ukraine has faced such a challenge for the first time. the mechanisms have not yet been worked out , but we have the ministry of veterans affairs , where there are officials . to be a coordination center, unfortunately, did not work out either, madam minister, who is appointed there, mrs. louboutin, there is no coordination, and we have pointed this out more than once. i think that personnel changes need to be made there. they are probably already mature, the same applies to of other ministries, which do not divide their powers among themselves, but work for the military which is at the front today

. by the way, we have prepared a legislative initiative , draft law number 83:13, by which we want to oblige the state that every demobilized serviceman must receive a two-month vacation with payment from state funds of the budget of what he received while at the front. thus , we have to take the first step, then we have to outline how the state will act for this person regarding the provision of his treatment rehabilitation, not only physical, but psychological and moral adaptation of him to a peaceful life in relation to the superiority of the state service in the local government service , that is, that these people felt that in fact they deserved it because they are heroes, well, that's what we have to write everything down, but here's the question of practical

support, documents too what do they turn to lawyers for, e.p. roman well, if our relevant ministry does not cope, we now see a bunch of public initiatives appear, or former veterans form them knowingly what needs should be closed, well, then, if we have a public sector that takes on solving these issues, then why do we need a specialized ministry? should this be a good question, perhaps it is worth merging these ministries , yes, or well, it is meant to be so, i don’t know, ministry of defense, ministry of rams and so on and so on, there is such an initiative regarding the unification of the ministry of veterans and the ministry of social policy , my personal opinion is that it is impractical to do this today, let's roman, respond, please, and we will let you go, that's what i'll say in ukraine

the public sector always tries to solve all the problems that cannot be solved by the government. on february 24, we decided. well, many people from the public sector do not criticize the government. payments, these issues are not an explanation of changes in financial support, and in my case, they lead to the fact that, for example , in the last two weeks, after the changes to financial support , the number of military personnel for their members has increased three times, the nature of the person who appeals on questions dismissal from military service, that is. in fact, this is not an explanation. well, it leads to demotivation in general. indeed, in our country, people do not serve for money, but for the sake of the state, but still, they must somehow understand what is going on in the state in general, because against the background of corruption scandals, there is some kind of misunderstanding about the payment for the military and it is really correct

er zamchak about the er quality , it is not clear how to differentiate these payments why a person who is in the same way we understand that even military units that are in western ukraine are flying in and people are dying there and why should they not receive additional allowances to the financial support, they are really not at the front , but they also risk their lives, their families should not receive financial support on time and it's really a year there is almost a war and we had to normal, according to the legislation. that is, we strengthen the responsibility of military personnel, on the one hand, we actually equate punishments to those of corrupt people, and in the future, somehow opaquely solve the issue of their

financial security, that is, why first everyone is talking about a decrease, as uh, about the fact that additional rewards are being added, and then uh, how are these ideas that no one has seen the normative act by how much it is increasing, add that the fact that there will be changes in the salaries of military personnel will also have an impact and for ex-servicemen and military pensioners, our courts are now flooded with lawsuits from servicemen who transfer pensions will be flooded again after the change of monetary support according to the new one, that is, permanently in the state this military tribunal is held from the state, well, this is wrong, it demotivates all kinds of people to military service, and i believe that working with this, it is necessary to normalize military legislation and do it approaching the military, and the main thing is that

we agree, thank you, sir roman for your work and of course for participating in the live broadcast of the espresso tv channel roman likhachev representative of the helsinki union for human rights lawyer and we are going further in our hundred over this kid people's deputy of ukraine first deputy the chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on social policy and the protection of veterans' rights, well, in any case, we understand that now we have exactly the moment when various initiatives of various circles of veteran and non-veteran human rights defenders should have the opportunity to be heard, we understand the first year of the war, which was a colossal load on logistics for the approval of various document flows, simplification is not simplification, but now is the time to rethink and improve, so to speak, he said that there will be personnel changes and announced them in the ministry of defense, well, the current minister

the defense of these rezniks submitted documents for the approval of candidates for the positions of his deputies. well, shuffling his deputies. is this really a solution to the purge of the ministry of defense after the corruption so-called egg scandal? i don't know if there is a solution to the problem. some consequence, but i would very much like the ministry of defense and the government as a whole to act in advance, they took a good initiative, invited representatives of all or most anti-corruption public organizations and agreed with them, let's see how the same should have been done before withdrawing these 30,000 e-e allowances , all those volunteer people , representatives of the veteran community, should have been invited and discussed how to act. i agree with the representative of the helsinki union. he says that the salary increase will immediately apply to all pensioners

of which there are more than half a million today, if they also need to raise their pensions , there is no money, if they are not raised, they will go to court and the courts will be on their side, that is why they are going down the road of extinguishment fires and we must not allow this to happen in anticipation of whether the quality of the work of the ministry of defense will change. i have great doubts because the ministry of defense as a whole is the executive power. this is the synchronicity of the work of the entire mechanism. today the mechanism failed. to be honest, although for the sake of fairness, when we look at the prices on the market and the price at which the ministry of defense purchases food products, we must understand perfectly well that the tender offers include the cost of

the products and their delivery to the location of our combat units today, if carrots are purchased , or the same infamous eggs in the territory of lviv region or volyn region, then in the procurement it is proposed that these products should be delivered, for example, to the outskirts of bakhmut, and not every producer undertakes this, if even he undertakes, the cost of the products lays down these logistics because of the task so that it was transparent, so that it was as open as possible, by the way, we voted for changes in the legislation to use - to use tenders, so to speak, for the sake of transparency, maybe we predicted it because we can't about it openly say how much and what to buy and always because then the norms of belonging are clearly understood and we realize how many forces and means we have and where they are located, that is, we need such a balance here, but we need to bring order

, clearly the prime minister must be responsible, first of all, the prime minister who organizes all this things, and as always, ministers and deputy ministers are changed, but the essence of why the mechanism fails is not resolved, because there is no systematic work of this mountain, of course, the mechanism , because it clearly needs to be improved mr. mykhailo, this is already a consequence , but the cause is still difficult to find, remember they said that civil servants get pennies from us, that's why they mess something up somewhere , steal something somewhere, and now, according to the latest news in ukraine, they want to reform the civil service. it is one of the conditions of our european integration, as well as the reform of local self-government, but olena shulyak said that there are serious problems in the system of remuneration of civil servants, the basis of these changes is the change of the system of

approaches to regulation of remuneration provided for in the draft law the introduction of a new classification of positions, an increase in salary in the payroll system, the plan well, it is the ministries of regional administration, what are you talking about, an increase in wages or a new philosophy in general, a new philosophy in the civil service, that is, i have not seen this yet her decisions or just her thoughts. i believe that now they are not dealing with that, really, we, er, well, it has not yet been considered in the verkhovna rada. perhaps only in the committee , a reform is clearly needed, or by such a method . if we are talking about the wage fund, by the way state officials, we see how much a minister receives, several times more than a people's deputy, although previously it was equaled. if we talk about administrations , military administrations, i also used to work there, but the salary was 10 times less , although the time was different, now, as for me, they have enough salaries the quality of work, the reform has not

been completed, we need to eliminate these mountains , the remote district administrations, they are not solving anything now, even they used to calculate subsidies, now the pension fund is doing it, so they are almost nothing it is not solved significantly, they are duplicating military regional administrations. i am for the fact that today it is still necessary to complete this reform by liquidating regional and district administrations and creating prefectures that will have a maximum of 50 large large regions and, excuse me, up to 10 people , a consolidated district for what they have control compliance, because today no one controls the legality of local councils , because the prosecutor's office does not have the right to supervise, that is, it should be the prefecture according to the french model , which started the reform even earlier the government, but the reform is not complete, if the ministries really

do not have to duplicate these functions, but they are doing it right now well, as they say, i need god himself, there is such a problem here that very often the baby can be thrown out with the water and everyone is afraid to take responsibility because it is unknown let's start rebuilding the house with crooked hands, you understand , and the roof will collapse, that's how it is, the people will force it and force it once. the money is counted by our e-e partners partners partners today finance the entire state sector the entire bureaucratic system and the pension system for which we are grateful to them because pensioners every month - thank god they receive their pension on time only thanks to the partners everything that

earns today ukraine goes to the defense sector but i'm sorry i have been robbed less than ever since ancient times, but during the war, when are there corruption scandals again ? they call it billions of compensated damages. let them compensate. this is the first indicator and the second verdicts are real. where did the officials who were suspected of corruption receive? we have a court and the investigative actions are not up to the mark, whether they are qualitative or technical. this is because very often the case falls apart in court because it was fabricated. to speak with crooked hands is so and so to speak and not on glue and on other substances of some kind, the whole thing was held well, please, good at the very end

, mykola, i want to say that watching how our boys on the front line protect our looking at the state, how are the transformations of law enforcement agencies still taking place, when it is still professional and principled people who fight crime, these personnel changes when the president made, i believe, a very powerful appointment of the head of the security service - this is really a combat general, a kid vasyl vasyliovych, who has experience and ihor klymenko, about whom they said that he might not be appointed, but should return to civilian life. i believe that these force structures , the service and the ministry of internal affairs during the war should be headed by people with combat experience. it is such generals appointed by the president i believe that with joint efforts

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