[000:00:00;00] only the military of two sides, ours and the enemy, enter there. this is really a ghost town. well, sometimes it can be compared to mariupol in terms of the number of destroyed buildings. there are many houses that have been destroyed, but there are, you know, alive ones. as they say in my house, it seems to me that there is not a single normal whole house. they differ only in different degrees of damage , and the damages are all practical, that's why you look at the little one. well, it's just a horror when our government returns there, it will of course return, we will return to you, this city will have to be demolished and rebuilt from scratch for your work, yaroslav chepurnyi was

with us the press officer of the 79th separate airborne assault brigade, a lieutenant colonel of the armed forces of ukraine, and now economic news with andriy yanivskyi, to whom we pass the floor to andriy, please, about money and the economy, about small and large business, please. good morning, create another love for money on february 14, right. andriy yanivskyi with economic news, as always, about at eight in the morning live on weekdays on the espresso tv channel, you can watch us not only on your tv , you can open youtube on any gadget and watch the stream, leave your comments, i will return after the broadcast, comment how we answer, if the questions were on the topic of our conversation, we will talk about ukraine does not

depend on russian nuclear fuel . at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, the state received up to half of all nuclear fuel from russia and half from the usa, now all agreements with the enemy have been terminated, ukraine can fully provide nuclear power plants to the resources of american production , this year's grain harvest will be destroyed up to 34 million tons, such forecasts are voiced by the general director of the ukrainian association of agrarian business, roman slastin for domestic consumption, this is sufficient for export, our export will fall several times, unfortunately, this will affect agriculture as well

producers, as well as foreign exchange earnings in the country and the economy as a whole , that is why we are focusing on what we need victory this year, we need help in this victory this year in order to get through this extremely difficult year and then return to development of our well, let's talk about the love of money with the senior economist of the economic strategy center yuriy , we will talk in particular about people who like to win and lose money. if mr. yuriy is with us, let's say hello. have a good day . i congratulate you. we will talk about the gambling business. but i immediately want you to talk about it as an abstraction, as an economic phenomenon, without naming brands and companies, because well, we will

make unnecessary advertising for them, and later, during our conversation, the audience will understand why. this is not an ordinary business. to mention whether it is legal in ukraine or can you answer how legal it is to gamble in ukraine now in ukraine there are both legal and illegal businesses in ukraine in 2022 in 2020 ihorka was again legalized in our country legalized offline and online casinos, bookmaking, and lotteries, that is, it is allowed, that is, lotteries, and lotteries, and bookmakers , and what else did you say? yes, online casinos are all gambling business, and for example , if we are talking about i don't know about poker

or preference about card games, where are they part of this business, i am also part of the gambling business, the rest of the card games there may be nuances and you need to look at the definition, but in general, offline, well, if alive gambling is allowed but from the 20th in 2018, such rather strict license restrictions were prescribed, for example, regarding the fact that gambling establishments, casinos, are allowed to be located only in five-star hotels, there can be slot machines in 3-4 five-star hotels within the nearest 500 m from schools, well, that is, there are some conditions that eh they have to control the availability of this well, this is exactly what i wanted to say about this and ask why is there so much attention paid to this business of the state, or is it something special, how does it differ?

a very specific business actually because gambling is one of those very powerful direct stimulants of the dopamine system, that is, it is close in essence to the same drugs. and from the point of view of economists , it is such a negative product. first, it is a negative product because its consumption, well, if it has negative consequences for its consumer , that is, he becomes impulsive, he loses money , he can lose family ties and so on, besides, it is a product. he has external negative effects, that is, he is the same it is harmful to third parties and to society, it can stimulate crime e-e. that is why it is such a rather specific product, which in many countries is very strictly and clearly

regulated, at the same time banning e-e gambling games is practically meaningless now, that is, before when we only talked about pro-line games e well, it was possible to ban them in the country, and then the only alternative was to turn to underground casinos or go to another country where ihorka is allowed . limit it, and especially if the law enforcement agencies are conscientious, now that we have online casinos, there are casinos through mobile applications and they are very accessible, then simply ban everything, well, practically, there is no sense , well, technically. yes, i remember the last experience with us in in ukraine, when all ihorka was banned and there were a lot of underground gaming halls anyway, and that is, technically, i understand that it

is difficult to do. forbidden but everyone knew that something is happening in that kiosk in the market through darkened doors, people go in there and come out, and if you look in there , you could see slot machines, and now this has decreased. at least, i hardly observe it in big cities, but i assume that there may be something else, why it cannot be banned even if there are all the technical possibilities for this, in fact, what has reduced it so much, but there are still and there are even in kyiv, er, such institutions that are illegal, and well, the classic problem here is that, well, actually, law enforcement agencies, they are er, still, well

crush such activity er, that is, it is clear that all the human factor is a wall, and so that our viewers do not think that this is the only such business in the world, and with specifics, we can name more examples of such negative goods to which the state has some increased attention and which the state controls additionally well, here it is banal, e.e. tobacco, e.e. alcohol. that is, all these goods, they can also be classified as negative goods that have a bad effect, but the state first of all needs , well, that is, the state avoids that everyone goes completely on the black market , because it is better to allow it to be controlled, including the consequences for the health of the society and, in addition, to make money from this through taxation in the budget, at the expense of which, well, to compensate for the negative consequences. well, actually

, every year, every year we see that the deputies are raising excise taxes on tuner alcohol and are motivating it by the fact that, well, really here . i apologize that this is such a negative business, harmful products , and the money from them should go to the development of medicine, education, well, in some way, all this can be compensated, at least in our country so far i will tell you the european prices for tobacco alcohol. it is still quite cheap if you compare it, well, even with the neighboring poland, and as for the gambling business, there was also some kind of additional tax burden , did they pay in principle? other businesses in general yes. so when the gaming business was legalized, quite high tax rates were set for it, well, first of all, these are licenses, which

are annual payments for the right to engage in a certain gaming business. is it an online casino or an offline casino, plus license payments by each one, for example, a separate gaming table or for a slot machine. well, these licenses are actually quite expensive. that is, it is a question of millions of hryvnias, to be more precise, even tens of millions of hryvnias per year. although, after all, when they launched e-e ihorka in the 20th year , they legalized it in the public sphere at least the deputies told the regulator there that the income from the license would be up to 7.5 billion hryvnias per year, but in fact we received only one and a half billion hryvnias in the 21st year, and in 2022 even less, and besides, the gambling business has also pay income tax well, as a normal business, it is 18%, but

in addition, there is income tax, that is, tax on the difference between the funds that the gambling business received from the players and the payments to these players, that is, net their income is still taxed there at a rate from 10 to 18%, there are many nuances of ramifications well, but in the end we can say that it would not be so and not enough if the business paid for it well, maybe maybe in 2022, simply because of a full-scale invasion , people began to play less and plus part of the territory was occupied by the halls that were there they are located, of course, they did not renew their licenses, and maybe someone decided to just close the casino, because not so many people are ready

to go to the casino during air alarms , turning off the lights. maybe it all works in the west of the country. this is a simple logical explanation, in fact , the revenue that came from tourists who came to play there in the institutions was lost, but unfortunately this revenue, i think with lithuania, was compensated by revenues well, in our country, i think there are many of the viewers and listeners. you know that now there is a big problem with playing games in the army, that is , in our country, the employees of the armed forces receive quite good compensations, and not all of them . who actually plays in the online casino and this stream is actually huge well, unfortunately, unfortunately, i personally know such facts, so really

among the military, er, the military who play n- it is difficult to condemn them, and because a person risks his life and it is his money in the end the limbs can be disposed of as they please, the only thing that i do not agree with is that they are worthy of payments. i believe that the military should receive more. the question is whether there is this money in the budget, and it is clear that there is compensation for income from electronic business, but you say that the income has drastically decreased . i i remember such a step of the state, which went to the meeting of business, well, in particular, gambling, and after a large-scale invasion, introduced tax benefits. perhaps this is the answer to our question: why did andrii's e-e gaming income decrease? this is one of the reasons and this

it's an interesting story, because in fact, if you remember, this bill was first submitted in march to allow most entrepreneurs to work on a simplified system and also to lower the rate to 2% of the single tax, so that is, almost any entrepreneur should switch to two percent, when they made these amendments specifically left comments on the rule that does not allow the gambling business to switch to a simplified system, that is, to remain with its usual taxation , but a little later when it was considered in general the draft law with references there to the budget code is absolutely not related to the international aid there, the day before the vote there, the deputy head of the faction, the servant of the people, the motor hunter, submitted his own appeal to the budget

committee and asked - to do also, well, exclude this rule that forbids players to work on a simplified system, and this rule was added there, you can read the conclusion of the budget committee, it is quite instructive, there is this whole set of lobbyists from players about how hard it is for them, how they paid for licenses and because of the invasion of them fell revenue there, it is all very well described and the essence is that they really voted and allowed the gambling business to also work under eh 2% single tax eh but it did not help in any way to childize this segment it simply led to the fact that if there, in the first two months of 2022, the gambling business paid, well, at least there some 200 million hryvnias in taxes, well, with the exception

of the license, then we are forgiven , uh, the majority, well, the majority of the gambling business transferred their forgiveness to us and paid there in general, there are some funny things there. there are dozens, it seems, 30 or 40 million hryvnias until the end of 2020, that is, the gas station allowed them to pay even less there to save, well, practically 200 million hryvnias, a correction costing 200 million hryvnias , and i agree in view of the fact that the deputy head of the faction contributed to this laundry as you say, this is hardly his private initiative and this is a decision agreed with the whole e-e party or with the whole faction in the consolidated parliament, not the decision of the ukrainian authorities, but the taxes were returned, hmm, as far as i understand literally a few months ago, they canceled these tax benefits, they admitted that there is not enough money in the budget, or why such a decision

was made, first of all, it should be canceled in november, if

you vote quickly, eh, in the second reading, eh, that is, in general, this initiative because already then it was obvious that if there was no reason to refuse taxes from the gamer and this was an additional loss for the budget, but he was voted very slowly at first , he was voted only in the first reading . well, that is, he went through the long procedure. it seems that the verkhovna rada carried it for 19 days to be signed by the president, that is, there are very long corridors here, so very long corridors in the verkhovna rada, and it is quite difficult to cross the road to the bank. and to take this piece of paper , of course, such a sad joke, we understand why this is happening. you already said that only in the first two months of last year

, the gambling business paid 200 million in addition to the license. the reduction of income from the gambling business was indeed tax benefits, but on your facebook above you write about what was, i hope it no longer exists, but how there was a scheme of some kind of tax avoidance by companies engaged in the gambling business , try to spend literally one and a half minutes tell me what it is for such a scheme it is such a serious challenge for such a scheme it was not there it is still there it works quite well this is quite such a large-scale scheme when uh well some banks uh allow uh gambling business they serve, first of all, through certain manipulations there with the codes that describe these payments to hide hide that this is actually

a transaction from the gambling business , that is , that these are the bets of the players eh and eh. other accounts under the guise of payments there for other services er and er, it allows, first of all, not to pay taxes on those s- from the income that the gambling business will receive, because it is hidden here, it is not visible that this is own er income from gambling of business, secondly, in those from this, from this same black cash, only not cash, but actually without cash that accumulates in these banks , payments are made to players, and since it is not clear that these are payments of winnings , then from they are not paid income tax from persons who are required to be paid from the winnings of gambling actually. and what is most

unfortunate is that there are already quite a lot of testimonies and confirmations from different sides about the fact that the rest of this is accumulated black money later is still going to be the same e-e banks actually served such salary projects, that is, they helped a large retail business there, which has thousands of employees there, to pay so-called salaries in envelopes, which have not been salaries in envelopes for a long time. well, payments to the e-e salary card without paying taxes on it well, the actual gambling business instead receives either its own cash from shady sales of some goods in this retail business or are there any schemes in general when it receives these funds abroad there

, for example, from the same exporters black grains that do not bring foreign exchange earnings back to ukraine. that is, i think that we will individually devote the broadcast to tax avoidance schemes and various fraudulent schemes, because we can talk about this for an endless time. thank you for the explanation for your expert comment. yuriy gaidai was in we are on the air, senior economist of the center for economic strategy and i am andrii yanitskyi, the host of the economic news program on espresso see you tomorrow at eight in the morning live on the air together we will defeat art in the country of war a series of documentaries each of which will tell about one of the ukrainian artists , artists who did not leave abroad and continue their creative path. in ukraine, there is such an impression that history just

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passed on the callsigns of the enemies. liaison nadiya with the callsign professor from the first days of the war joined the fight against the russian occupiers and accompanied foreign delegations to the front and later started working with radio stations directly on the battlefield about the work with communication on the front nadiya told our journalist khrystyna parubiy we are watching the story nadiya with the call sign professor chief sergeant of one of the brigades of the armed forces of ukraine , at first the army was a translator accompanying foreign delegations to the zone of hostilities, she later became a liaison officer , reflashed walkie-talkies and improved communication between military groups, the life of the military with

the help of means of communication, fortunately, it is often possible to save and everyone whom i train everyone whom i teach, first of all, i teach that a radio station is not some magic box that you simply must not lose because money will run away from you, and it is your thread that keeps you alive before the war in civilian life nadiya studied in the usa and after returning to ukraine entered the faculty of philosophy at taras shevchenko university in kyiv , the girl was interested in hryhoriy skovoroda's concept of related work from school, so she thought about working according to her heart's calling, but in the first year, the war started. nadiya started volunteering then i joined the army when my parents found out that i volunteered to help the military, they already then expressed their frank attitude towards sofia , and the member threatened me, and my father stole my documents , submitted me to immigration without my consent and did not agree to help with the operation, which was very difficult for me as a result, it is needed for an operation in two

hours. the military collected this sum, and knowing me as a volunteer, that's when i decided that my family was actually there, so i started going to the front because i knew english well transported foreign delegations to the front in the first years of the war, foreigners had to be transported purely on personal arrangements with the security forces due to bureaucracy and delays in obtaining permits; nadia accompanied the first group to the svetodar arc; there were even former osce workers in the team; the need to connect military translators right at the front in the first years of the war was connected with the fact that at that time the war in ukraine was not yet so well known to the world in the members of those delegations that took me personally, there were even former employees of international missions neutral so-called a-a who in personal conversations er-er later found out to me that they left international places precisely

because they ate a little on the near-front and on the front and simply could not support ukraine and recognize its rightness in this after the war, she officially joined the armed forces of ukraine, the girl was given the choice of being a clerk and a bearded man, because she did not like paper work, she decided to master radio stations in the first months, she had to do a lot, and because there were a lot of means of communication more difficult, and there were not enough of them, groups came out that did not have enough batteries, not enough radio stations, because of this, communication was interfered with, and groups were lost, they had to conduct search and rescue operations, work as a live repeater , which was also not very safe, they had to reprogram the station guys in the trenches , under fire, now, unfortunately, the work has improved communication has also improved with the help of sterling, the military says that if you skillfully disguise the enemy's device,